535 Forum Posts by "Jiperly"
why not user the "trade" forum at http://www.diabloii.net ?
don't forget the antrax fears!
now its your turn, don't_ask:
prove your point
so, after nearly one hundred posts, i didn't miss anything? gotcha- see ya in the next hundred
The Taliban were created to remove the soveits from power, and they received cash from America during the cold war for doing so. heres some proof I found- the second link when i looked up "The History of the taliban"
http://www.expressnews.ualbert...es/ideas.cfm?p_ID=1517&s=a
funny how easy it is to find something when your looking for it, isn't it?
At 4/30/03 02:49 PM, Dont_ask wrote:
:Anyone who funds terrorism is can be just as bad as the terrorist themselves. Saudi Arabia has and maybe even we have in the past but as long as you fund Al Qaeada(excuse the spelling) or anything else that has to do with them constitutes to terrorism.....
The Taliban, if you look at what Ninja Scientist had already said, were funded by America, as well as Bin Laden had received Billions in order to take over Afganistan. Number of people punished for support terrorism then? 0. Number of people killed in Iraq for "supporting" terrorism, despite the fact that there can be no connection found in this dictatorship, and a dictatorship would never allow terrorists, aka freedom fighters, willingly into his nation to protect him from an enemy on the other side of the world while they are most likely plotting against him? 2000 civilians and an estimated 10000 soldiers. But thats okay, since all Iraqi's supported terrorism, then the deserved to die....Americans that did don't deserve to be punished in any way, save one who literally BECAME a terrorist....but if any other nation supports them?
At 4/30/03 02:49 PM, Dont_ask wrote:
Anyone who funds terrorism is can be just as bad as the terrorist themselves. Saudi Arabia has and maybe even we have in the past but as long as you fund Al Qaeada(excuse the spelling) or anything else that has to do with them constitutes to terrorism, so
tell me where the Iraqi is in this list:
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/fugitives.htm
At 4/30/03 11:58 AM, Veggiemeal wrote:
Bush must have paid you to say that. You're part of the conspiracy!
Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.
Andre Gide (1869 - 1951)
People tend to mistrust people who have all the answers, because they wonder how they got them. Thats why people who say bush is wrong because of this or that, not people that say "Bush is part of the Illuminati and is trying to conquer the world"
people trust people who leave the dots unconnected, and let them discover it for themselves
At 4/30/03 11:58 AM, Veggiemeal wrote:
Bush must have paid you to say that. You're part of the conspiracy!
Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.
Andre Gide (1869 - 1951)
People tend to mistrust people who have all the answers, because they wonder how they got them. Thats why people who say bush is wrong because of this or that, not people that say "Bush is part of the Illuminati and is trying to conquer the world"
people trust people who leave the dots unconnected, and let them discover it for themselves
At 4/30/03 12:59 PM, Dont_ask wrote: Unfortuantely it is pretty hard to get the facts, not only is Sadamm possibly dead but even if he were still alive he is such a heinous lyer that we wouldn't get the answer out of him anyway, that's what he lives by, lying. And no I am not going by what President Bush says either. If you aren't aware of it already Bush and Sadamm hate each other, if you were to think logically about this and say screw the facts for once you would realise that Sadamm would have considered it a golden oppurtunity to get back at bush by funding the September 11th attacks. But lets not stray off of the subject.
we don't need Saddam to confirm the facts to be considered true- but we still need the facts to begin with. And if you cannot present ANY facts other than Bush is a better man than Saddam(no arguement here), then that isn't basing your opinion on the "facts presented", its based on either facts created or just your own opinion.
so,you guys make sigs? for free?
can you make me a Lightsaber for LSC(#12)
At 4/29/03 11:08 PM, BinLadenmustdie wrote: Apparently, some are unfamiliar with the phrase, "you don't pull on Superman's cape."
You don't start a riot, toss rocks and shoot AK47s at our military and expect for us to run away like scared puppies.
who started the fight is debatable- they could have been just holding guns, afterall, and the troops started it, or the troops were barraged with stones, and fired in the air to stop it, and the Iraqi's fired back, or they just shot the Iraqi's reguardless. I doubt we'll ever know, but then again, with 0 American deaths, those crazy Iraqi's must have had pretty bad aim if they started shooting before the Americans
At 4/30/03 11:45 AM, Veggiemeal wrote:
Another reason to suspect that the Bush regime was behind 9/11, so that they had an excuse to gain power in the middle east. 9/11 also made Bush a lote more popular.... Kinda makes you think eh?
ya, also post 9/11 Bush could point at any nation in the world, save their former enemies, and blamethem on the attacks. And don'tgiveme BS about them not having any proof so that would never happened- remember, bring up the proof that Iraq has WMD, or has terrorists?
that been said, i don't like conspricity theroies because they seem to lower the credibility of the person. saying it
At 4/30/03 09:32 AM, Dont_ask wrote: For your information I beleive that Sadamm funded the September 11th attacks, I don't care how rich Osama Bin Laden was, so yes, Iraq did have something to do with it.
huh? what facts prove that?
hey there- i've been avioding this post since the 35th one......what'd i miss? do we have a website yet?
This is more of a debate of Natural Vs. Positive Law- Natural meaning that mankind is naturally inclined toward the structure of laws and morality, Positive believing that Mankind is naturally barabaric and cares not for other people or the law, and are only kept in check by threats.
i don't like the clocks either, but to create a crew based on hatred....for shame....
At 4/29/03 07:28 AM, DARKDRAGONKING00 wrote: its not all bout lightsabers, visit the forum by clicking my sig pic to get a taste of teh crew
thats the problem with the forum- they only see the new members section- we need to allow them to see more in order to enciurge people to join- not just have a little section where some regulars are fightng- let them see "whats new" or maybe even "post anything"
Wow- this crew has really hit it off- 16 pages in ten days. I have no interest in joining, but good luck!
errr....that was a different situation....
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/29/sprj.irq.falluja/index.html
250 Iraqi's demanded that the troops leave the school and let children go back to school. somehow it turned violent(both sides have a story)
At 4/29/03 08:40 PM, Shih wrote: Yeah but how many students were in the school at the time?
none, but there were none in the time that Saddam was in power either- just weapons and ammo
At 4/29/03 04:59 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote:
heehee.....i'm getting a reputation here.....
Really, do americans even know the meaning of freedom. I watch hockey and other sports on tv and I always see either a fat man or woman holding a beer in one hand and in the other a sign that says "SUPPORT OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ, FIGHTING FOR OUR FREEDOM" thats really starting to bug me. America is a free country, its been like that for a while, and with all those soldiers and stockpiled weapons, its gonna stay like that for quite some time. So by going to a country and taking out the dictator you dont make america free, you make the foreigners free, at least please try to understand this. Its even Bush's official grounds for war "to liberate the Iraqi people" not the ameriacan people.
But don't forget- that was not Bush's oringial intention. It too many tries to get his intention down pat- WMD, Terrorists, lying to the UN- and now he has an excuse that the world cannot denounce, because it makes him seem like a holy man- a saviour of the middle east from the horrors of dicatorship and into the dream of democercy. Of course, the Iraqi's may hav not been given the chance ot choose Saddam, but they sure as hell won't get to choose their government, their allies, their trade partners, or anything like that either- they liberated a nation, gave them freedom of speech, saved them from the secret police, but left all the other chains of injustice on them to better serve their saviours.
At 4/29/03 02:41 AM, BahamutXone wrote: As for the 2000 dead innocent Iraqi, it is a tragedy. However, when the enemy hides among the civillian population, the death of innocents is, unfortunately, inevitable. The Israelis have been dealing with that fact for years now.
well, ya gotta love the irony of this quote then, straight from CNN(15 civilians died, 53 were injured)
....when up to 250 demonstrators approached members of the U.S. Army's 82nd Airborne Division, based at an elementary school, demanding they leave so classes could resume...
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/29/sprj.irq.falluja/index.html
and what happens to those who do not love Bush in Iraq?
15 people die and 53 injured
pro-war prefers to connect people to terrorists as a justifation of their beliefs and the war on Iraq. After all, if these people believe theres a connection to the monsters that killed the 3000 people that fateful day, then Iraqi's DESERVE to die.
and that is how a pro-war mind works
the Asian culture on the whole- they have such great works of art and beutiful organision in their buildings alone, and there is so much honour and respect in their culture- something the west could learn from.
stay away from our crew and you're bound to disappear into legends to scare noobs of our crew there chaos- but if you keep showing up, everyone is going to know your real alias....... you leave us alone, and we'll leave you alone.
well, for the war, we had a speaker come in and discuss it with us....i forget his name, but his last name was Dyer, i believe.....
*kicks a frog into shrikes face*
At 4/28/03 05:27 PM, paulnice wrote: ---I'm really getting mad at all those people that say bush is doing a bad job.
- here is a list for all those who think that way what you should be thinking of
1. the fathers and mothers of childeren that are fighting for your freedom
our freedom eh?how is that so? Iraq, in fact, does not and probly never will have the capbility to inflict danger on our freedoms
2. really if you think you can do better you need to go to the hospital because this guy is a very smart man and went to one of the best collages like yale
I'm sorry, but actions speak louder than words, and From what i've seen, that man in the office i won't trust with a photocopier
3. what he says in his speeches should lift you in the spirit of helping our troops across the sea.
like "our war is not against the Iraq people" yet 2000 died. ya, i feel great about that- what a great leader. hell, he went to war with only a little more than 50% with him- but thats what a true leader does- ignores half the demographic
4. for the people who dont like war think of the twin towers falling and what you would have wanted the president to do if they killed one of your loved ones
Funny....i don't see Bin Laden in Iraq...or any terrorists....or any connection to terrorists.... and neither does the FBI or CIA......but since Bush said so, with his great big harvard degree.....and it would seem idiotic to have terrorists, aka freedom fighters, in a dictatorship government, since they possess a threat bigger than america.....
5. bush is the president of the U.S.A and you know what for all you people 18 and older i thank you for voting for him and for those who did not im sure that you are happy with the countries vote because he is trying to put a murderer to rest right now
Mind if i ask why? can you answer me that- after all, Saddam has been in power for 30 years, 20 of that as an ally of America. Is it suddenly because they believe that Saddam is evil, but the 20 year they were allied with him they didn't? or is it because of oil, votes, boosting the ecconmy, the ablitity to create a cheap trade partner, and hundreds of other damning evidence?
but your right. lets just ignore that and assume hes doing it because it needs to be done....
6. I'm going to have to go now but i am going to leave you with this if you would support our country and go into the military and have a country that did not back you up how do you think that would make you feel
i'm sorry if i will not adjust my opinion to better suit the soldiers.
