535 Forum Posts by "Jiperly"
The Kurds are considered a terrorist faction by all countries in that area. If people in New York took up arms and tried to 'liberate' New York, do you think America would allow it?
your beliefs are full of holes.
there will always be that one person who will want to know where their food is coming from.........after all, look at biologically altered food......
theres one flaw in what you said- theres no connection between the terrorists in 9/11 and Iraq.
what the hell does religon have to do with anything? i got an idea- stop being a predijust bastard and putting everyone with the same religon into a catergory to hate and accually talk about the subject.
And you still haven't talked about how she was brainwashed.....
At 6/10/03 01:28 AM, FreidanX wrote: Or should it be used to tailor other traits of a person such as intelligence, physical appearance, or personality?
its debateable weither or not personality is based on genetics or the way the person is born.
Would you *want* to have such modification done to you, if given the option, for changes such as greater intelligence, a sense of humor, or faster metabolism?
If it helps them succeed, then what parent wouldn't want that?(unless it only singles them out, making them a loner and anti-social, and then they become a failure with great potiential......cause that would kinda suck....)
Would you want it done to you children for non-life-essential changes such making them a boy/girl, giving them blonde hair, or giving them a greater attention span?
Is giving them greater Attention span really all that non-essential? If your child has ADD, does that mean they will receive the equal chances in life as a person without?
Is this the direction that human evolution should take? Or should we leave the evolution of our genes to nature and accept the dice as they land?
we have the opportunity to increase the human potiential, and give humans a chance they would not have for millions of years. I say we enter this feild with the utmost care, but we enter it nonetheless.
it so that people won't go "i hate teh bush!" or "abortion is wrong" on the regular fourm.....
D2X, France is a target solely because the US has no history of hatred toward them, and thus by blaming the French, America can continue to hate them without someone standing up and saying "we're attacking them for their government'(like China) or 'We're attacking them for our past hositlities' (like Russia). France is an easy target because no one can claim America is expressing this hatred because of their past.
Renenege, yes, you are right, of the 8 most powerful nations(the G8), Canada, France, Germany, Russia, Japan, and Italy are against the war, with only The United States and Britian believeing in it.
And Jim, you can blame Iraq for not keeping records for their WMD as much as you can blame Russia for poorly defending their nukes- Iraq is a retivially poor nation with Sanctions, and have better things to spend money on than keeping record of every Weapon destoryed. And the complete lack of WMD, even after America has complete and utter control over Iraq should be proof enough that they do NOT exist.
Admit it- France was right. Unless you trully believe that Saddam had killed over 7000 of his own people inbetween those months that the war was debated, Then no lives were 'saved' by invading a country with no purpose. Maybe by justifing it like that, you make yourself feel better that a minium of twice as many innocent civilians as in Sept 11th were killed to remove non-existant weapons from Iraq. Maybe by justifying that people were saved, you can feel better about those who are dying in hospital beds because the colliation put more empathsis on protecting the oil than protecting the civilians. Maybe by justifying that you saved the iraqi, you can ignore that you killed them in the process. Literally Millions of Iraqi's have been killed by the hands of both the UN and America, but Saddam is a monster for killing Iraqi's as well?
cute statement, and it may be true, but whats your point?
and they don't want to stay at war- just piss off alot of countries to make it look like war is the only choice to "protect" us....
At 6/8/03 12:52 AM, jimsween wrote:
Speculations are a neccesity in the politicis forum
wait a sec- it has been recorded that 5000-7000 Iraqi's died in 3 weeks from hositle combatants....it has not been recorded how many died in the 5 monthes or so when the 2/3 of the UN security council demanded that America Prove the WMD, which the United States could not.
these are all facts.
You now blame France for not giving America the international support they requested, even though America never upheld their side of the bargin of proving the WMD(after all, 5000-7000 people died to remove a threat, that, as far as we can see, never existed). You're also completely ignoring the fact that France was not the only UN member against the war, nor were the they only one carrying a veto(China and Russia also have vetos and also were against it). Not to mentention that despite the vetos, you can completely circumvent the veto by having 2/3, or 10 countries support in the sercurity council. But American could not do this.
And thats Frances fault, right?
and then you make yourself a complete ass by posting that he is making no sense that Iraqi's died for America to have the same ammount of proof as before the deaths, but you still stand by your statement that blames France for all of Iraq's problems, despite not being able to back up anything in your statement......
i do not believe Micheal Moores movies are propgranda, but i do believe some of the thins he puts in it can be misleading.......That been said, he, none the less, makes a good documentary...
but come on folks- keep with the topic of the trucks, not bitch about propgranda- besides, the trucks weren't propganda- just your everyday average government controlled lies.
want to bitch Micheal Moore(or bitch at the bitchers of Micheal Moore)? theres bound to be something of his somewhere in the politics section.....
sigh......somewhere in there, my point was lost......
America has the right to snub France for disagreeing with them. It will not help foriegn relations for a good 50 years to come, and it still makes an ass out of president bush and co. , but they still have the right to snub them as much as they like, just as any other country in the world has the right to snub another.
Its not right- but it is how it is. And America future generations will suffer for snubbing trading partners- you want it to stop- protest and boycott anything that replaces the word "French" with freedom- and show support for Frances decision. Last time i checked, showing your support for another nation that you are not at war with is not illegal.....
At 6/7/03 10:25 PM, nailbomb wrote: Would you also like a drawing? sheesh
well, if the UN gets a drawing of what the non-existant trucks look like, why can't we?
but if Mr.President says theres WMD, then he must be right, reguardless of any proof whatsoever! I mean, he knows alot more than me, with his great C Average at an Ivy League School......</sarcasm>
but seriously folks, can anyone tell me they believed these trucks existed when they couldn't even find them and had to use cartoons to demostrate to the UN......seriously, i think the UN should take anything the US says with a grain of salt after this bullshit- if they cannot prove that these existed, that means they lied to the international community, and lost the sense of trust that the US -they'll have to regain that trust......
okay jim, you lost me- how did they kill more people by not agreeing with America? 5000 people died in 3 weeks, and you seriously believed Saddam could do worse in that time, with the UN breathing down his neck?
But I still do find it oh so ironic that after denying so many times that it isn't about the oil and saying that the oil belongs to Iraq that Haliburton gets to 'distrubte' the oil.....
and don't give me that BS about distribting meaning something else- what, does it mean that Haliburton gets to send the Oil to countries at its own expense? What a great deal!
At 6/4/03 02:21 PM, Nirvana13666 wrote: I have a friend in the army and I don't blame him for fighting in the war. I mean once he signed that paper he officially became property of the government. I think Middle Eastern people might be a little mad that we have power to help them stop our government from destroying their country but we choose to support them.
while I agree with your statement that it is not the Troops fault to fight that war, and we should not punish them for it, if that is the only reason you can think of for Iraqi civilians protesting the colliation's occuapation of their nation, then you have alot of homework to do.....
but heres one good reason for them to protest the soldiers:
twice the number of people in Sept. 11th- and -surprise surprise , they hate us now!! to say that Middle Eastern-Americans have not recieved any hatred from the actions done on that day would be bullshit. So we cannot judge them for hating the soldiers that did it- hell, they have more of a reason to hate them because they literally caused the death- whereas the middle eastern-Americans had nothing to do with it.
As for the "They shouldn't be protesting because they have freedom now" defence - show me their freedom. They have the freedom of protest and freedom from torture/rape- that is all. No representive government, no rights, no nothing -yet.But then again, go without those rights for a month and see how comfortable you get.
now for the actual reasons for this topic:
**kicks a frog***
thats my two cents.
but seriously, If France is a Soveriegn Nation and can make its own decisions, then America should have the same rights and have the right to respectfully(if not matureky) snub those who didn't do what it wanted.
At 6/1/03 04:54 PM, jimsween wrote:At 6/1/03 04:11 PM, nailbomb wrote:Way to make an ass of yourself,
http://members.toast.net/eyeofthestorm/arming_saddam.jpg
way to make a bigger ass of yourself- it says in black and white- weapons. It could mean rockets, it could mean guns, it could mean knifes for all we know.....
At 6/1/03 05:16 PM, jimsween wrote:At 6/1/03 05:01 PM, Kenney333 wrote: Try to police the globeHasnt been a world war since USA started policing the world.
funny.....the UN appeared after WWII, and they seem to be police the world too......They just use American military might when a miliary is needed......
It's debatable weither or not Iraq or Iran gassed the Kurds, and as of such, i do not believe questionable evidence with no proof to back either side should be conisdered factual
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/a...16FC3D5C0C728FDDA80894DB404482
At 5/30/03 07:28 PM, SpEeDFiReSrFr wrote: It has beeen a concern since he came into power.
for 30 years? even when America was allied with Iraq in the 80's, they still were concerned? and when they gave him weapons for his war against Iran?
At 5/30/03 04:12 PM, SpEeDFiReSrFr wrote: We came to Iraq to liberate them from a regime which killed a million (or more) of it's own people as the main reason.
He killed Thousands- The UN Sanctions/weekly bombings by Americans killed Half a million.
:Saddam tutored thousands, and they will now live normal lives. Obviously, he lied to the U.N. He said he haid no S.C.U.D.s, and on day two, he launches them at Kuwait.
he launched a whole one? well, then that MUST mean that he had WMD too!
:The museums were looted when the pussy Saddam followers were fleeing from Baghdad. The fall of Saddam's statue was symbolic to the liberation. War is hell but it liberates and protects.
protects whom? and at the cost of foriegner lives? would you be willing to die so Brazil could be safe?
but thats different, isn't it?
:Securing Iraq will take a long time, and "anarchy" woudn't be the right word. People are murdered here in tht US every day. So rethink your view hippie.
theres a difference from murders being commited and there being ABSULOTELY no law enforcement. It IS anarchy because there is nothing stopping them....
WMD are weapons that leave an effect after the blast- so many nations have used WMD for hundreds of years- anything to do with chemical(dropping mustard gas in WWI) to biological(launching rotting bodies into castles to cause the spread of disease in the middle ages) is WMD.
i don't support Bush, but i hate to see people make ass's of themselves...
accually, i read once that if nuclear war starts, the United Nations can authourize every nation in the world to use their Nuclear payload on the agressor- so if, say, North Korea nuked Japan, then Russia, China, India, America, ANY NATION can nuke the North in retailiation without any fault been brough by the UN....
somehow i feel like this is all connected to your belief that pot should be legalized because it is criminalized for the same stupid reasons as these are/should be....
o m g
i want to go over to your house and kick you in the face, repeativily, for saying something so god damned stupid. And i guess i got that urge from waking off, huh?
prove the connection of masterbation to commiting crimes and i'll prove the connection to not masterbating to commiting crimes. How? the same proof you have- none.
You cannot impose your will on people because you think illy of Masterbation. Next thing you know, gays and lesibeins should be illlegal too, since the way they make love is a way of masterbation.
If you have a vendena against porno's and rapists, i can understand, but going around and demanding that all people who sexually pleasure their own PRIVATE body in their own PROPERTY be placed in jail for six monthes (!!!) , then i'll just place you into the insane list, because thats what that subject you just made was.
heres a link to help you on your blind self-rightous crusade.
At 5/26/03 10:12 AM, Veggiemeal wrote: Er... Tofu anyone?
only if its covered with a big piece of Steak.
hold the Tofu, though......
At 5/26/03 04:12 PM, Commander-K25 wrote: Jiperly, this is a very nice piece of propaganda. It is absolutely one-sided and completely slanted. Good job!
thank you, but i repeat: i did not write this
give the writer(whose name is in the first post)the credit
and how about proving them all wrong? rather than just sitting there on your pestital and saying that its all one-sided- tell me HOW its one-sided(which it most definately is)
At 5/26/03 12:32 PM, arnamenta wrote:
If I remember correctly, most of the protesters weren't protesting the President, but his pending invasion of Iraq.
like i said, i didn't write it.....
Didn't we occupy Germany and Japan after WWII? So this one seems right out.
i'm not sure where that came from.....
* First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission;Not entirely fair; the UN isn't nearly as old as the US.
and thus, in the 60 some odd years the UN has existed in United States History, this is the first time someone decided, hey, the United States aren't all that up with human rights lately....
To be fair, he's failed thus far but might succeed in the future.
so you think he will come up with him before re-elections? or even by 2008? Mr.Bush will NEVER find him, because he has 'more important' things to do, like liberating Iraq.
Actually, during the Civil War Lincoln suspended a number of rights. If he didn't suspend more, it's probably darn close.
Ya, but America was being invaded, and it was a temporary set-up- this, on the other hand, is planned to stay for....*checks papers* as long as the constitution exists....
A writer named Kelly Kramer recently compiled a 'resume' for George W.
Bush. In it, she listed his main accomplishments. Among them are:
* Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history;
* Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12
month period;
* Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market;
* First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation
by any president in US history;
* After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided
over the worst security failure in US history;
* In his first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs;
* Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any
president in US history;
* Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than
any president in US history;
* Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than
any president in US history;
* Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to
intervene when corruption was revealed;
* Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans;
* Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously
take to the streets to protest a sitting American President, shattering
the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind;
* Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history;
* First president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union
simultaneously go bankrupt;
* Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any
market in any country in the history of the world;
* First president in US history to order a US attack and military
occupation of a sovereign nation;
* Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the
history of the United States;
* Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history;
* First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the
US from the human rights commission;
* First president in US history to have the United Nations remove
the US from the elections monitoring board;
* All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign
donations;
* Biggest lifetime campaign contributor presided over one of the
largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay,
former CEO of Enron Corporation);
* Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in
US history;
* First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and
then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1);
* Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less
than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly
the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history);
* With a policy of 'disengagement' created the most hostile Israeli-
Palestinian relations in at least 30 years;
* First US president in history to have a majority of the people of
Europe (71%) view his presidency as the biggest threat to world peace
and stability;
* First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more
threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea;
* Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded
government contracts;
* Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who
violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding
for government contracts;
* Failed to fulfill his pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive';
* Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders
of our country at the United States Capitol building. After 18 months he
has no leads and zero suspects;
* In the 18 months following the 911 attacks he successfully prevented
any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history
of the United States;
* Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any
other president in US history;
* Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less
than two years turned every single economic category straight down.
If you can believe it, this is an edited list. And he still has a 70%
approval rating?! So it goes!
At 5/25/03 08:31 AM, Slizor wrote: Haha, Canadians are slow. The BBC and The Guardian picked up on this a week or so ago.
uhhh....it says it got the news FROM the BBC there kiddo.....
the flick doesn't seem to work either....
