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I highly doubt every mass murderer was raised without a father or some other type of male authority figure. If anything, they downplays the importance of a father in a child's life, contradicting their stance of how "men matter."

Social taboo, I guess.
The only problem with incest if it's socially accepted is the possible long-term inbreeding that can cause chromosomal deficiencies/birth defects.

I've lived with my brothers all my life and I don't really like them as people so I don't see why anyone would want to be in a relationship with them, let alone myself. But everyone's different.

Tryna get @ dem perpherals tho

I have family from other countries who have made commentaries when visiting. Here's what I can remember:

We place too much importance on religion (specifically Christianity)
We're obsessed with masculinity
They think it's crazy how we don't offer free healthcare to our citizens
Our gun policy and us owning guns is ridiculous
Prepackaged food is dirt cheap compared to produce

The Lion King!

It's disgusting that people like him place sex and having a girlfriend at such a high priority that he ended up killing people over it, when there are people starving everyday, people busting their asses raising kids as single parents, or kids living in deplorable conditions all around the world. His problems are nothing compared to what others go through everyday.

His manifesto does nothing to prove he's a "nice" guy when he's being racist and calling girls he barely knows "sluts."

Most likely from Spain.

Just cleaned my room + the kitchen and found so many bottles from spring break/these past 4 months of the new year.

Single life, yo

Well you can't always keep a conversation going at a constant rate, so to kill time/entertain yourself until a new topic can be brought up, why not dick around on your phone?
Most people are not interesting enough/don't have the skill to keep a conversation rolling, ya know?

Holy shit.

lmao this thread is pathetic

I know this is a generalization, but most Asian girls I've known have really traditional parents know who can be downright rude and mean. Most don't even want their daughters to marry someone non-asian, so unless you're Asian your chances are slim.

At 12/12/13 10:40 PM, Kwing wrote:

What I'm getting at is that it's ironic that you're up there on your high horse trying to tell me that you're more qualified on this subject than I am when I've already stated that the viewpoint I have taken is mere speculation and that it would be subject to change were I able to get more accurate information on the matter.

I am giving you this information yet you are not changing your views. Not even really considering them. Like at all.

http://faculty.uca.edu/rnovy/Rachels--Cultural%20Relativism.htm

Okay. So culture affects how we behave. Isn't that kind of the point? Furthermore, wasn't that exactly what my argument was? That your viewpoint was limited from your own cultural perspective?

Did you even read the article? The point of it was the fact that certain values are actually universal and are NEEDED FOR A SOCIETY TO SURVIVE. Its practices are the only thing that differ.

Yes there's no such thing as an "ideal" society, but there MUST be standards set to establish a society. Standards imply predictability, without predictability judgements can never be possible because all acts will be arbitrary, making society unstable.

Is it still right? That's a question that's subjective to each individual. If they think that their suffering is somehow worth it or productive, then fine. It may not look so good to us but it's good enough for them. In some ways I would argue that North Koreans are lucky because they are so stuck in the social class that they are born into that they do not think to ascend a social ladder. As a result it's likely that they appreciate life more because they are not setting expectations for themselves and being disappointed when those expectations are not met.

It is not subjective, the basic needs and expectations of them are more than likely not being met by the government, making it wrong.
Naturally, a person wants to advance and progress as a person. To deny people this autonomy is morally wrong, as the government is making their decisions rather than let the people evaluate their choices and form an opinion for themselves.

So what? We're all brainwashed by our culture. We have no ability to think outside the box when we are so ignorant that we do not even know the full extent of our ignorance. There is no such thing as an unbiased or independent or decision. That is why I believe that there's no harm in manipulating people, because people are being manipulated anyway. So long as someone does not have a personal transgression against what they are doing or what is being done to them, there is no conflict and therefore there is no problem.

How are we being brainwashed, at least in our own culture in the US? Everyone has the freedom to learn about other cultures and disciplines. Just open a fucking book and learn. Yeah, some argue our government is manipulating us but we have the power to change that, it says so in our Declaration of Independence:

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

If people don't want to take the opportunity, that's there own problem.

I'm amoral and a nihilist.

Aaaaaaaand I'm done here. Obviously, you're views on the subject are not going to change and we will just go back and forth in a fruitless debate. I don't see the point of you starting a topic of discussion when you refute every response given to you rather than be open to other views. This accomplishes nothing. What "evidence" would you even consider valid against the topic of rape, or what we were discussing, I don't know.

And I apologize for belittling you. I realize now that your views on life are most likely a result of the negative encounters you've experienced in life and for that I am sorry I did not see this before nor empathize with you. Being amoral and a nihilist accomplishes nothing ultimately to yourself or society, and I highly doubt it will make you happy in the grand scheme of things, but you have the right to live a life as you choose so long as you do not harm anyone. You're 18 so hopefully you will outgrow this and realize the benefits of living an ethical lifestyle.

Good luck.

At 12/12/13 08:08 PM, Kwing wrote: What irony. Everything that you think and believe comes from environmental factors outside of your control, be them genetic, societal or familial properties you've inherited. The conflict with someone manipulating and using a child for sex is not that the person is having an influence on the child, but rather the AMOUNT of control that person has, therefore giving them an UNHEALTHY amount of influence over that person. However, if you have a psyche degree, you're really not that different; you spent several years absorbing the commonly stated rhetoric from a single viewpoint and have tunnel vision yourself.

Uh what are you trying to get at with this? Are you saying society shouldn't influence out thoughts? Because humans are SOCIAL beings, therefore, society will always have some part in our thinking and values. Also, it's been seen that certain values have to be present/practiced in order for a society to survive (i.e., trust, abhorance against murder).

http://faculty.uca.edu/rnovy/Rachels--Cultural%20Relativism.htm

Take a fucking class on ethics while you're at it.

By the way, who are you to judge that someone is being harmed if they don't think they are? A while back I made a thread where I talked about Stockholm Syndrome and it came down to the same point: If someone doesn't think they're being abused, they're not. It's only when they're told that they're being harmed (or that their oppressor is telling them that they are not being harmed WHILE their own personal judgments disagree) that trauma actually occurs. I think it's incredibly self-righteous to think that any single viewpoint can determine if something is right or wrong.

Most North Koreans don't know that they are being oppressed. Why? They don't know any better.
Is that still right in your eyes? That they live a life of ignorance, despite the fact that they are suffering physically, emotionally and are mentally sheeple?

Also going on personal judgement, one's judgement is developed by personal experiences one has gone through and setting a list of standards for comparison. These judgements are from one's experience in THE SOCIETY IN WHICH THEY LIVE IN. This goes back to "universal" values, most societies view rape as bad because if no value was placed on sex a society as a whole could possibly be nonexistent.

ohmyfuckinggod you are 18 you have no idea what you are talking about.

Nobody says you HAVE to connect with someone one a level that deep. Yea, society will kinda make you feel weird about not feeling that way but if you're not hurting anyone and are happy, why should it matter if you are in a relationship or not?

Anyone who has taken a basic psyche class would know the emotional and mental ramifications rape has on a person. Also, what you quoted is a classic sign of "grooming", he trained her as a child to trust him to satisfy his own selfish sexual desires. What child has sexual urges at the same rate as a grown adult, let alone have ANY sexual desires that need to be satisfied? And even children do develop urges (it can happen) their brains cannot fully process the emotional and mental consequences that come with sex. "Social stigma" has nothing to do with the hormones that get released from the body with sexual stimulation, hormones that children's brains and bodies cannot recognize or process properly. Yes, rape shouldn't destroy your life and make you a victim forever, but to say that the only reason rape is considered "bad" and has all its negative affects is because of society shows exactly how ignorant you are on the topic. Take a fucking psyche course or two and then try to say you don't believe in rape.

TL;DR, OP is a try hard edgy 18 y/o who has no idea how psychology works.

A former Billings Senior High School teacher who pleaded guilty to raping a 14-year-old student who later killed herself has been sentenced to 30 days in jail by a judge who said the victim was "older than her chronological age" and "as much in control of the situation" as the teacher.

In handing down the sentence Monday, Baugh said the girl was "older than her chronological age" and "as much in control of the situation" as the teacher.

Baugh tells the Billings Gazette that a 14-year-old girl can't consent, but this situation was not a "forcible beat-up rape."

Ok, since when has any teenager ever made any intelligent decisions, ever? Teenagers do stupid shit and are impulsive, but it's up to the adults to guide and teach kids what's right. He abused the fact that he was an adult and rather than say "No", he had sex with the girl. And the fact that he was a teacher, AKA in a position of authority and a higher status than her, makes it all the more worse. Stop trying to shift any responsibility on the victim. It's called "statutory rape" for a reason.

MFW people agree that she should have been held responsible and was "in control".

Yeah, it's the same run-down at every college party. Nothing new but hey, nothing's bad about free booze.

At 2/8/13 04:23 PM, Armissea wrote:

At 2/8/13 04:21 PM, Cyberdevil wrote: I hear Sum 41's from Canada too.

and Deadmau5

and Justin Beiber and Nickelback

see you guys aren't perfect after all.

Move out. This is really the only option to get parents 100% off your back because as long as you depend on them and live in the place they pay for, they will always have some sort of excuse to be in your business.

Get a job in fast food like Buger King, McDonalds, Wendy's, etc. Yea it'll suck but you get paid and you can put down a bunch of job experience and "skills" that you learned (dealing w/ customers, know how to work cashiers, working w/ other people, etc.) so you can apply for more decent jobs. Working your way up is good but it definitely helps to have connections. I was able to get my current job scanning medical files at a doctor's office because one of my lady friend's uncle has his own practice. (Which by the way is like one of the easiest jobs ever, I spend about half the time watching YouTube vids while they're scanned.)

Egypt.

Even if this is true, it really isn't something to be proud of.

If I get to know her well enough/dated her long enough, I'll romance a girl. Otherwise, I'm more friendly.

Biting I like, not hickies though. Having bruises on your neck looks stupid in my opinion. And I feel like people who have them try to show off.

For those of you who failed high school biology, puberty generally starts between the ages of 10-12 but it can start earlier.

And who cares if nature says it's "ok". Nature has no ulterior motive other than to procreate. This woman, however, did: to satisfy her sexual urges.

Wolves.

At 8/3/13 07:02 PM, notYert wrote:

At 8/3/13 05:43 PM, Makakaov wrote: if you start kid's sexual life before it's supossed to start it, you do unreversable damage to it.

you do realize that evolution intended for humans to reproduce as soon and as often as possible right

so around the start of puberty, so around 11-13

get over your legally enforced morals

Just because they're physically are ready for sex doesn't mean they're mentally prepared for it. I've known girls who had gotten their periods at 9 years old. Do you think it's ok for 9 year olds to have sex?

Well, we're learning not to end up like her or her family.

Why didn't he just change his number? I mean, the girl's a bitch but really if he had ignored her or made an attempt to cut her out of his life she probably would have left him alone eventually.