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At 5/29/10 06:46 PM, Warforger wrote:

At 1/19/10 03:27 AM, Iron-Claw wrote:

At 1/5/10 01:57 AM, Warforger wrote:

First off, Britain dropped a equivalent of 7 nukes on Nazi Germany, yet not as many people care, secondly you don't seem to have mastered reading very well as I was talking about calling it the fucking Holocaust which is way out of proportion.

You think it's just me? There are plenty more who would disagree with that and you. Like the people of Japan. That's what they called it! Get your facts straight asswipe! Read something! Clearly you don't know enough! Just because you don't know something to be true does NOT MAKE IT UNTRUE!

Here's your word of the day: Ho-lo-caust n 1: a thorough destruction esp. by fire

From Merriam-Webster's dictionary.

At 1/19/10 03:27 AM, Iron-Claw wrote:

Thats not to mention, it was just people who had Japanese heritage, Filipino's, Chinese and Korean's were on our side.

You just don't get it! Everyone on that list, not just the Japanese Americans were persecuted by white America who couldn't tell the difference that Phillipinos, Chinese and Korean Americans are different and still on OUR SIDE and yet White America did it anyway and locked them away in the concentration camps!

Yah I do. Source for your baseless bullshit?

First of all, If you honestly believe it was only Japanese Americans persecuted not Chinese Korean or Phillipinos, then you are a moron! As is anyone who honestly believes the '40s were the glory days yeah, maybe if you were white but no so great for anyone black or asian or native american or latino or gay or disabled or woman. And even if you were white you were still protested against especially if you were German or Italian or Russian in spite of the fact that Russia was on our side.

Second, I don't need to explain myself least of all to asinine moronic bigots like yourself tell me I'm an idiot yet bigots like you are inclined to believe just about anything that sounds like the voice of a drunken or drug induced state, something scribbled on the men's room wall of an inner city public high school, or something from the tabloids, to which bigots like you maintained "no it was Fox News/Wikipedia/Homeland Security. I present the facts. You don't read anything. Your only input into the outside is Fox News/Wikipedia/Homeland Security. They're the most asinine bigoted moronic institutions in the world, yet you'll believe them because they're "Reputable"

This is what I've read:

50% of Americans say they believe in Aliens
47% of Americans say they believe their government knows something about Aliens that they're not telling
Nearly 1/2 of the world's population say they believe in Aliens

I say TO HELL WITH EVERYBODY ELSE! WE'RE READY! THE TIME IS NOW!

At 7/8/10 09:44 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: 9/11 was a inside job and other dumbass conspiracy theories.

Absolutely! Pending further anyone asinine enough to make a connection between conspiracy theorists and the rest of us who are perfectly sane who just so happen to have a penchante for the unexplained. "What's the difference" you may ask. Here's the difference:

Conspiracy Theorists are only doing this to be famous to get their name/face/voice on TV/Radio/Movies/The internet.

The rest of us have a genuine interest in the Unexplained.

At 7/14/10 08:17 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:

At 7/12/10 09:43 PM, lolwtfmudkips wrote: I dont think testing new guns and aircraft is secret enough to KILL over.

ugh yes they are man.

Why? Give me an actual reason. Any kind of reason, not what some would consider a "good" or "bad" reason any kind of reason. Give me a reason.

If anyone at any given time has ever declared "I/we/they have 'debunked' ________" any time anyone uses the term "debunk" I have no idea exactly what they're proving or disproving because the actual evidence they present to the contrary is nonexistent all they have is testimony case in point every "expert" who has "debunked" The Da Vinci Code: They only provide these three arguments 1)"There's no proof" 2) It's outrageous" 3) "Everybody who believes such shall be crucified" and they fill anywhere from 45 seconds to 45 minutes of a 60 minute special using those same three arguments over and over again except finding a series of artful euphemisms and mixed metaphors to make it seem like they're saying something new. Bob Marley said it best "You can fool some people sometime but you can't fool all the people all the time" and if you're smart enough you can tell as can I they just keep saying those three arguments, while providing absolutely no actual evidence to the contrary. Yeah, God forbid anyone have a thought, opinion or idea that's new, original and different! I was watching a thing on the history channel about The Knights Templar they had two separate people submit twelve separate interpretations from around the world for what the holy grail could be not including the chalice at the last supper and the child of Jesus and Mary Magdoline.

I said it before and I say it again: That's the problem with our society Everybody everywhere is too easily offended by EVERYTHING! Society blows! You people need to get your heads out of your asses!

I honestly don't believe any Sci-Fi story about interstellar travelers being destructive in nature, united amongst themselves yet hell bent on destruction of everyone else, that doesn't work. Anyone like that would've destroyed themselves in the process. True means of interstellar travelers would be benevolent inclined to help worlds who need it. Ours is such a world. Economies are crumbling, modern medicine is falling behind, climate's in crisis we could really use a hand. Times like this you can't be too picky how many fingers are on that helping hand. Also anyone like that would also be a lot like us and inclined to defend themselves if met with hostilities that could/would/will make or break us so be sure you make the right decision. ;)

At 1/21/10 07:50 PM, FlyingStump wrote: Well, for all those who like conspiracy theories and are wondering the "truth", here's a pretty long, interesting article.

Area51

Is it true? Who knows...but regardless if it's fiction or not, it makes a couple good points and provides some out of the box thinking to those who don't think too much about things, may I say, out of this world =P

That is compelling...and disturbing...probably true. Like most of these interviews of Area 51 potentates they say so much and yet reveal so little. And what has become of them? I really do wonder. I feel as a citizen of The United States of America registered to vote and do vote it is my right to know everything on every level what is going on with my government and I have every right to lest you forget the US Freedom of Information act! We have every right to know. Congress says we do. As do most of the country. 50% of Americans say they do believe in UFOs. 47% Believe their government knows something they're not telling about UFOs. We're not just gonna sit around and listen to this bullshit forever! We know how to discern when you have lied. We are ready. We are not afraid.

At 6/5/10 05:21 PM, TheCoatwearer wrote:

At 7/19/06 09:17 PM, C-Damage wrote: Marriage is not a "christian ceremony", and the christian bible says nothing about homosexuals.

In the King James Version, Leviticus 18:22 is translated: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

King James does not qualify as a divine source! He is KING James not Saint James and even if he was Saint James he too would have/could have/did make a few clerical errors because he's only human every human being makes mistakes as does all sentient life in the universe, as does whatever God you wish.

Get your facts straight asswipe

Get yours straight! Leviticus is in the OLD TESTAMENT the hebrew bible which is unusual because I have NEVER seen a Jew make this connection/argument. The NEW TESTAMENT says no such thing that could support the "Kill all the fags it's what jesus would do" mantra. Have you any idea what else it says in Leviticus? The first five or six verses calls for a ritual sacrifice of a bull and proper display of its head on a pike and assortment of the heart and entrails. That's the problem with our society nobody takes the time to read anything anywhere at anytime when it could make a difference!

At 7/1/10 04:02 PM, The-universe wrote: 9. *anything from fox news*

FUCK YEAH! And Homeland Security. And any internet encyclopedia that lets anyone and I mean anyone annex information regardless of whether or not it's true. I can't tell you how many people had the audacity to call me an idiot and yet they themselves were inclined to believe the most profoundly stupid and/or provocative "statements" for the sake of argument we'll call them that that always sounds like something from a member in an inebriated/drug induced or otherwise compromised state of mind, a limerick on the mens room wall in an inner city public high school or bar, or the supermarket tabloids. To which they maintained: "No it was..." either Fox News, Homeland Security, that internet encyclopedia that lets anyone annex. I won't say but I'll give you a hint, it's not Encarta or Grolier's.

I tell you the stupidest argument any number of people made and still making against Mac in favor of PC goes as follows:

"If you drop an iMac it'll break."

I cannot tell you how many times I had heard that and are still hearing this same argument and I keep telling them the same thing over and over again:

"You're a real piece of work, you know that? If you drop any piece of electronic equipment from adequate height it too will break you fucking moron!"

But things are looking up now that Apple has surpassed Microsoft for the first time in the stock market. Now that we have a surplus we can bring back Jeff Goldblum.

At 12/2/09 04:18 AM, Iron-Claw wrote: Skeptics scoff at the idea that roswell ever happened saying if it was aliens why haven't we heard from them in 60 years. Well 60 years is utterly insignificant when weighed with the entire Universe which we now know to be 15 billion years old. We previously thought it to be 13.7 billion years we now know this to be the age of our galaxy. Of those 15 billion years, earth has only been around 4.6 billion years, of those 4.6 billion years humans have only been around 3 million years. Our existence is so insignificant if you compressed the Geological timeline of the Earth all 4.6 billion years into one 24 hour day humans will have only been around for 30 seconds. put 60 years on that scale it's only 50 nanoseconds not a lot of time.

Correcting a small mistake it should read like this. I would've edited it at that point but that's not an option on NG other forums on other websites have that option to edit a previous post that should change we really need an edit button on our posts, Tom Fulp.

Bottom line: Don't punish the people punish the government who perpetrated it. The people were innocent their government was guilty. This goes for Japan, Germany and Italy in WWII. The people of Japan abhorred their government and committed mass suicides to escape the tyranny. The people of Germany abhorred their government for their crimes and the holocaust most of them had no idea their homes were blown apart by the allied bombings one of which was a museum with the only Spinosaurus Egypticus complete skeleton ever found in the world, no one has since found another Spinosaurus Egypticus. There was even an underground movement of young adults in Nazi Germany who embraced Jazz and swing music which at that time was entirely black people's music. Their Government didn't like it to say the least whereas the people declared "To hell with you! We know what we like! This new wave music is where it's at! Polka stinks to high heaven! One day we'll have a word for people like you!" and now they do "Stradelfut" not sure if that's the exact spelling though. With the people of Italy I would not be inclined to believe they would go along with Mussolini and in the end on the day of his hanging the people threw garbage at his corpse. I've never been to Italy but everything I've seen and read about the place seem very inticing it's in the Mediterranean a climate similar to southern California unlike Southern California Mediterranean's got class, less pollution, less uptight people and Italian is very easy to learn if you know spanish. Italy's all right.

We can continue this into modern times; the people of Islam and the terrorists it is not the people of Islam's fault for 9/11, spain, london it's The Terrorists. It's Osama Bin Laden. It's Al-Quaida. To kill a single muslim through some kind of misguided sense of righteousness or patriotism is wrong. In fact righteousness or patriotism are just convenient disguises for despotism and narcissism.

I think the people are now ready for Aliens if we found them and we have been since 1947 majority of which are smart enough and level headed enough to know when their government has lied to them and continued to do so for over 60 years and we know this because their official story on what transpired at Roswell has changed at least 3 times in the past 20 years not to mention the obvious distinctions between a crash test dummy and a gray alien and a weather balloon come on! You can't keep this SNAFU up forever!

There are those cases of alien abductions some people can't remember what's happened to them until they undergo hypnosis and the memories come back that are disturbing to say the least, suggesting some aliens had the technology to erase traumatic memories. Now if there's any species out there that has the technology to erase traumatic memories and wish to open a clinic I promise you you will become billionaires overnight there are people the whole world over who will pay any price to erase their traumatic memories, I'm one of them! To that extent I say:

"Door's open. Come as you are."

Alternatively if the aliens are ones that did the abducting and caused the trauma in the first place, to that extent I say:

"We need to establish some ground rules, to summarize: We are people, not guinea pigs, If it's a guinea pig you want we shall provide a guinea pig. Lighten up, loosen up considerably or get the fuck out!"

On Pope Benedict declaring it ok to believe in Aliens, this is a good thing it is progressive I applaud you for it and even if you're not catholic but still a member of a religion you should take notice of this. By the way, Have any of you taken the time to read the first passage of the book of Ezekiel in the bible his "vision of the 'chariot'" It's a close encounter of the third kind.

At 1/5/10 01:12 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

At 1/5/10 01:47 AM, Iron-Claw wrote:

Oh sure! Call me an idiot!

Okay, idiot!

I didn't even call you that until now.

Now that Warforger have put that month delayed response in place...

All right then, I apologize. It's just so aggravating so many other punks on newgrounds and elsewhere keep calling me an idiot good to see the idiot finder is not one of them. Maybe we could be friends. I don't understand where these other people get off who themselves lent to believe something so mind-bogglingly idiotic that always ends up sounding like something said by a drunk at the bar with a 3.4 BAC who was good at not showing he was nearly dead, a limerick written on the men's room wall of any inner city public high school or the sale's pitch for one of those cheesy late night commercials. To which they maintained "No it was..." either Fox News, Wikipedia or Homeland Security's latest raise of the terror alert. I'm sure you can understand my frustration, you are after all The Idiot Finder.

Warforger...every military on earth has a whole system to ensure jerks like him will never make it to General or even PFC not even past Basic Training because ignorance and insubordination will not be tolerated and will not reward you with prestige, whereas in High School you will so long as the only harm you inflict is spoken not physical.

Iron Claw say, those who make fun of others have absolutely no security in themselves whatsoever and always, ALWAYS are more likely of being themselves than of the accusations they are making.

Somebody came forward with a STEALTH BLIMP design that, apparently, these are what have been mistaken for and account all the sightings of the triangle crafts. Sounds like bringing the whole "Weather Balloon" brouhaha into the 21st Century. I sincerely doubt we even need a Blimp in this day and age that's not at a roadside tourist trap or the NFC Championship game at the most! I don't believe that at all.

Something else that should be established that any Saucer Shaped UFO are not minted by the US Air Force. I will not be arrested for revealing this because it's public records anyone nonmilitary can look this up. "The Aerocar" not to be confused with the General Motors Aerocar the car with wings that could take off in a field and land then the wings could be folded up then you drive it as a car, not that one. The Aerocar made by the USAF in the 1960s was a project to create a Flying Saucer that could be flown by humans. The initial design called for a 100-300 foot craft but due to cutbacks had forced them keep making it smaller for the prototype which was about 12 feet across with a tiny jet turbine in the center and a bubble off to one side, the cockpit. This design was extremely flawed, it never got any higher than 3 feet off the ground and had a terrible wobble to it and not very easy to fly. Most of them crashed causing severe injuries, none fatal though. In the end The Air Force officially scrapped the project, officially.

At 4/12/10 01:25 AM, Aillebeta wrote: i say if gays wanna get married and miserable like the rest of us we should let em.

THAT'S EXACTLY THE SAME ARGUMENT I'VE BEEN MAKING ALL ALONG! ;-) Finally someone's on my side!

Anyone pining for the Encyclopedia entry on Marriage as between a man and a woman I have a question about this encyclopedia of yours: What else does it say? Something like:

"Dick Nixon is a fine upstanding man who shows great potential"

"The Civil Rights Movement is trouble ahead"

"Alaska and Hawaii will make great states someday"

No. Wait! I got a better one!

"Arizona and New Mexico will make great states someday"

'cause if your encyclopedia says any or all of the above, needless to say that encyclopedia is RIDICULOUSLY OUT OF DATE as are you! If it were up to date It should say, to paraphrase:

"Dick Nixon was a Dick"

"The Civil Rights Movement changed America for the better"

"Alaska and Hawaii are great states and a failsafe point once that Cauldera at Yellowstone goes Kaboom covering most land locked states in volcanic ash"

"Arizona and New Mexico are great states with a great many wonderful sites, sounds and people to offer if you can take the heat, if you can't take the heat, however, best idea to do this in spring no sooner than April"

Someone needs to make an annex.

Well somebody's been diggin' real deep for a thread that was supposed to die a year ago.

Oh well, guess I should contribute!

Anyone pining for Leviticus as a divine source of holiness is a prick as is this Leviticus guy whoever the fuck he was! We all know that verse but what everyone who quotes that has obviously never read everything else in Leviticus. Right there in the start the first five or six verses he talks about the proper means of sacrificing a pig and displaying it's heart and entrails in a specific manner and putting the pig's head on a pike just like a slasher flick but because it's in the bible and especially because it's from Leviticus it's justified.

GET SERIOUS! This guy's not a prophet! He's a Prick!

And that's all in the Old Testament. There is absolutely positively nothing in the new testament that could support the "Kill all the fags! That's what Jesus would do!" argument.

And to reiterate this the Merriam Webster's Dictionary definition of Marriage:

mar-riage n. 1: the state of being united to another person as a usu. contratual relationship according to law or custom 2: a wedding ceremony and attendant festivities 3: a close union <a ~ of light and shadow> - mar-riage-able adj.

At 2/11/10 05:58 AM, snpurerandomness wrote: i do not lie

I believe you. ;) Do not let this Klobb guy or anyone else get to you. They don't understand that flaming and trolling is not allowed even on Newgrounds if they keep it up they will be banned.

now if there's anything else you know about area 51 please share the rest of us want to hear it.

At 1/10/10 12:25 AM, McPaper wrote:

It would certainly be nice to see at least one important manned mission in my lifetime

How old are you? couldn't be that old could ya?;)

That's something I've been meaning to bring up here. It was always my dream to be an Astronaut and if not be the one to put the first footprints on Mars at least part of the crew. This dream, however, was forced to be put on the shelf for the sixth and final time when I flunked out of the same 94 level Algebra class at my Community College for the third time in a row.:( Thing that pisses me off the most is that by their standards any class below the 100 level course qualifies as a High School level course by their logic I've only a Middle School education. At this rate by 2020 they'll be teaching Precalculus in Preschool!

This is what I have been saying: We must work together all powers capable of Space Flight work together in space regardless of what's going on below. The Americans should be working together with Russia, France, Japan and China as well. Now everybody hates this working together with China but it's the only way with our budget deficit we are not going to beat them to the moon or even Mars we've got to join them put aside our petty differences. The space program has always been an endeavor of peace and we should keep it that way.

Something NASA and everyone else should be considering is the negative effects of long term exposure to zero gravity so build a next generation ship with artificial gravity. this is not too difficult to do just build a section of the ship that spins fast enough to produce 1 G. My idea was to built the entire ship in one long tube with everything you needed on the inside positioned on the walls and spin the entire ship. Much easier.

At 1/5/10 01:57 AM, Warforger wrote: Wow. You don't even know what Holocaust is *rolls eyes*

Typical, ignorant, arrogant American mentality. You all just can't be bothered with the affairs of anything that doesn't involve the lower 48 states not even Alaska or Hawaii. State of ignorant bliss:

I have talked with multiple people who don't know the difference between The First Amendment and The First Commandment. I was at Mount Rushmore and there was a guy standing next to me didn't know Thomas Jefferson from Andrew Jackson holding up a $20 bill to compare.
60% of High School Graduates believe Joan of Arc was Noah's wife.
Only 51% Know The Sun is a star
31st place in countries who believe in evolution, below Cyprus above Turkey
15% Believe the sun revolves around The Earth and growing...

The only people in the world who can't be bothered with being the only people in the world to have ever used nukes on anyone else in the world. 180,000 people is approximately

Boston, MA
Seattle, WA
Portland, OR
Jacksonville, FL
Orlando, FL
Fort Worth, TX
Reno, NV
Salt Lake City, UT
Tucson, AZ
Buffalo, NY
Charlotte, NC
San Jose, CA
Cleveland, OH
Cincinnati, OH
Indianapolis, IN
Baltimore, MD

Somebody else drops an atom bomb on any of those cities what does the perpetrator do?ROLL THEIR EYES! But when you do it it's a big fucking party! That's why everyone else hates America so much! It gives people like me a bad reputation!

Thats not to mention, it was just people who had Japanese heritage, Filipino's, Chinese and Korean's were on our side.

You just don't get it! Everyone on that list, not just the Japanese Americans were persecuted by white America who couldn't tell the difference that Phillipinos, Chinese and Korean Americans are different and still on OUR SIDE and yet White America did it anyway and locked them away in the concentration camps!

At 12/16/09 10:00 AM, wrathofmannix wrote:

At 12/5/09 06:52 AM, Iron-Claw wrote: There's one thing a legislature cannot take away: A people's right to be miserable just like every other hetero couple out there. Sure you can say you're happily married now after 2-3 years but once you get on up to 20-30+ years you're miserable everyone is after being joined to the same person after that long a time. Talking about "We must preserve the sanctity of marriage" That's bullshit. There is absolutely nothing worse than sanctimony and if you want to preserve any decency in marriage ban Reality TV shows that's what's wrong "Married by America" "Who wants to marry a Multi-Billionaire" "The Bachelor" and let us not forget the cream of the crop "Who wants to marry a Chainsaw Maniac"

Reminds me of a Chris Rock bit about marriage. Probably NSFW, lots of expletives.

Well, I'm not gonna annotate who stole who's idea for a joke let's just say Chris Rock and I are on the same page. ;)

The other thing was that Any Man who talks about homosexuality as an "Abomination unto God" or "An affront to nature" is a hypocrite because all men get off on the whole two women going at it. We all love it. We love seeing two women doing just about anything together. Kissing, fighting, fucking, pillow fighting, rearranging sock drawers, we love it. We ALL love it, we just do, shut the hell up.

The other is "Homosexuals can't reproduce" sure they can. Lesbians can have artificial insemination and Gay men can be sperm donors, at least that's how it ought to be. So many have been turned down not gonna use it anyway, may as well put it to good use. And we're not in danger of extinction if that's what they're implying

At 12/18/09 11:40 AM, Ericho wrote:

At 12/15/09 12:37 AM, Iron-Claw wrote: Although if I may say so there's been plenty of submissions that file under racist that moderation seems a tad more lax about removing whereas submissions that file under excessively pornographic are shutdown almost immediately. it's been happening a lot recently.

I would really like to know exactly what is defined by "excessively pornographic". I have seen a lot of flashes and games that are really nothing but hardcore porn. I mean, look at the Starfire and Raven hentai movies; not only are they uncensored sex, but it's rape of all things. That seems excessive to me.

Well, I have seen those particular stills of Teen Titans Hentai but not here on NG they were elsewhere on multiple free porn sites I know about and would gladly forward to anyone else al they'd need to do was ask but it's against the rules to do that here so if you want to know find me somewhere else and I'll tell you.

Honestly how could you get that on NG? I agree with the idea that glorifying rape is indeed excessive for NG or anywhere else and I would never do such a depiction in any media.

It shouldn't be an issue for anyone underage looking at porn on the internet I'd prefer it finding an outlet you get to that certain age of exploring you body and sexuality it's perfectly healthy for anyone to do as opposed to the young and impressionable getting enthralled by just as much devotion to white supremacy on the internet and same amount to porn. I'd prefer kids watching porn that watching white supremacists or screwing around with their parent's arsenal of weapons someone's gonna get killed. With Porn there's no harm no foul.

There's two things I cannot abide in any media outlet one of which is censorship the other is the republican bias. I will comply fully as an author here on newgrounds or elsewhere like Fanfiction.net on newgrounds the ristrictions are "nothing racist or excessively pornographic" "nothing racist" is pretty straightforward I don't do that kind of story there may be some character that fits that profile but they will get their comeuppance, rest assured. "excessively pornographic" get a little more unclear, I mean I certainly would do something along those lines but it would definitely fit in the R rated category. Fanfiction.net says flat out: G, PG, PG-13, or R rated stories nothing NC-17 rated. I can comply with this because I haven't the faintest clue how to convey NC-17 rated sex scenes in the printed word, I've been working on it since I was 15 and it still doesn't come out on my word processing, writer's block.

And that's the problem with so many producers not willing to go all the way and doing an NC-17 rated movie "Damn the MPAA we're gonna do it even if it is rated NC-17" but no, the filmmakers nowadays are all a bunch of pussies, which is why I hated being 17 when I was 17 old enough for NC-17 rated movies but too young for X rated and absolutely no one was willing to go through with an NC-17 rated movie and none of the movie theaters in reasonable driving distance willing to show them, it sucks being 17 and it still does for anyone now who is 17!

At 12/9/09 09:12 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

At 12/9/09 02:10 AM, Iron-Claw wrote:

That one we can agree (sort of), it's regrettable but you made it sound like a holocaust on the Japanese. The sad thing is that the asians that weren't japanese were dragged into this as well, once they return home...
"Dude, where's my stuff?"
At least they receive "apology" payment
There's more but I'll let someone else to explain it.

Oh sure! Call me an idiot! Make that assumption and assertion, such is false no matter how much you want to believe it and no matter how many times you say something that isn't true doesn't make it true and yet they persist. Well something you and most people seem to have conveniently forgot through either being short sighted or closed and narrow minded is that what else do you call the deliberate destruction of a large group of people who's only crime was being born different from those in power?

HOLOCAUST

Ask any Japanese person what they call the death of everyone suffered from the A bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They will all tell you the same thing:

OUR HOLOCAUST

What else do you call the death of 180,000 innocent civilians?

HOLOCAUST

Another thing most people fail to grasp through closed and narrow minds is that the term concentration camp automatically qualifies as death camp that false assumption is as stupid as it is ostentatious because under the Nazis there were also forced labor camps that still qualify as concentration camps where Jews gypsies gays and people with conditions were forced to build war machines for The Third Reich and there would have had to be a lot of them for the Nazis to keep it going as long as they did.

And that is why the term concentration camp is still valid for the systematic imprisonment of Japanese Korean Chinese and Phillipino Americans who were on our side and still FDR in all of his greatness ordered them into camps. Calling them "internment camps" is like calling Custer "American Hero" or the captain of The Titanic "Noble Maritime Hero" which is ostentatious and one day history and society are going to be in sync with that and Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Myself and others however few we may be are already there and one day so will everyone else with an encyclopedic knowledge of history and also a sense of morals and ethics and the ability to discern right from wrong which is not that difficult to possess! It's common sense not quantum mechanics!

At 12/3/09 05:44 PM, venom1942 wrote: Gay marrige is an ABOMINATION UNTO GOD i don't know about you but i don't want to tick God off.I think gay people should get married and get AIDS so they all die and don't infect me.or put them all on a island so they can't reproduce.Lesbians on one island Gays on another.In about 70 years there will be no gay people end of story.Personnaly i think that they should ban gay marrige.

Mm-hm...just like interracial marriage. And Gentiles getting married to Jews. And lowering the voting age from 21 to 18. And civil rights. And women getting the right to vote. And The Emancipation Proclamation. And men of all races getting the right to vote. And men who did not pay taxes or own property getting the right to vote. The same exact argument has been made against all of the above. Justification for xenophobia under the guise of religion. Is there anything worse?

Anyone considering doing a Hentai flash for NG must rethink this idea. The rules dictate that if a submission is racist or excessively pornographic it's breaking the rules. Although if I may say so there's been plenty of submissions that file under racist that moderation seems a tad more lax about removing whereas submissions that file under excessively pornographic are shutdown almost immediately. it's been happening a lot recently.

What about the people in China, Korea, and others?

We didn't drop an A Bomb on China or Korea. The forced labor camps from Japan was a bad thing, yes that goes without saying but what FDR did to them was no better. FDR ordered the Japanese Americans into concentration camps of which he had no authority mainly because it violates the constitution but especially because not only did he know full well about the Nazis and their death camps knowing full well it did not concern him in the least making him a big fucking hypocrite!

If the Homosexuals want to get married and do whatever it is they do behind closed and locked doors that's not for said state or federal government to dictate what two consenting Adults can and cannot do behind closed and locked doors that's the one thing no government can do and any government that does is on par with Nazi Germany that's what they did to Homosexuals, Gypsies, People with conditions, and Jews in the Holocaust to accumulate 12 million people and anyone who denies or defends the holocaust is worse than the ones that did it.

It would seem these politicians working to revoke the rights of Gay people are forgetting that what they stand for is a constitution for which the purpose is to GIVE rights not take them away!

We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal. That they are endowed by their creator certain unalienable rights among these are Life, Liberty, The Pursuit of Happiness.

That's what America was made on. it's in the Declaration of Independence for Christ's sake. And to anyone who claims the dictionary defines marriage as "between a man and a woman" you are wrong.

mar.riage Noun 1: the state of being united to another person as a contractual relationship according to law or custom 2: a wedding ceremony and attendant festivities 3: A close union <a ~ of light and shadow>

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary

There's one thing a legislature cannot take away: A people's right to be miserable just like every other hetero couple out there. Sure you can say you're happily married now after 2-3 years but once you get on up to 20-30+ years you're miserable everyone is after being joined to the same person after that long a time. Talking about "We must preserve the sanctity of marriage" That's bullshit. There is absolutely nothing worse than sanctimony and if you want to preserve any decency in marriage ban Reality TV shows that's what's wrong "Married by America" "Who wants to marry a Multi-Billionaire" "The Bachelor" and let us not forget the cream of the crop "Who wants to marry a Chainsaw Maniac"

At 12/2/09 03:26 PM, ReiperX wrote:

At 12/2/09 07:14 AM, Iron-Claw wrote:

At 11/12/09 08:55 AM, TheMason wrote:

At 11/12/09 01:34 AM, Iron-Claw wrote:

What possibly would we need it for?

Visualize. Imagine. Dream. Think. If you can do any of those things you can find a use for something thought to be obsolete in modern times. I can. Can you? Here's a couple of ideas:

1) Advance Warning System-Get the word out faster farther through means of a conventional Aircraft
2) ICBM Interceptor-It can climb faster farther and Higher in 5 minutes than an F/A-18, F-22 or F-35 could ever dream through 1 selfless pilot's life to save millions, and if that gets you too broken up there's this:
3) Replace the pilot in the cockpit with a UAV computer-Now you don't have to worry about tragic loss of life or negative effects of G force strain and blackouts just make sure you still have someone in the control tower powering the Blackbird by remote.

Spy satellites do a wonderful job. The Blackbird was a wonderful design for it's time, but the satellite can position itself in geosynchronous orbit above an area with much better sensors on it

And they're all gonna fall out of the sky along with the TV Radio and GPS Satellites sooner or later at some point I don't know when I don't know where but it's gonna happen.

Any evidence of it's extremely tiny radar cross section?

Yep. Straight from the horse's mouth Stealth was also an important element of the U-2 and SR-71 reconnaissance aircraft and it is a critical element in the ability of the Seawolf submarine to remain undetected deep under the sea. According to Alan Brown, who retired as Lockheed Corporation's director of engineering in 1991 and a man regarded as one of the founders of stealth, technologies to reduce radar cross section began almost as soon as radar was invented. The predominantly wooden de Havilland Mosquito was one of the first aircraft to be designed with a focus on low radar cross section. Stealth evolution carried us through the U-2 and SR-71 programs and then the F-117 - all pushing the design parameters further. Today Lockheed Martin is applying the lessons learned from this experience to its F-22 and F-35 designs. The science of stealth does not stand still. As the threat improves, so must the countermeasures. And each stealth characteristic is built into the platform appropriate to the mission.

And yes, the spy satellites couldn't find Bin Laden, but neither could the Blackbird.

I never said we should use the blackbird to find Osama that'd be like using a bazooka to take out a wasp's nest. No for finding Osama we need be stealthy and in this case fly in UNDER the radar low and quiet with an Apache Cobra or Comanche helicopter.

As far as Area 51 goes, we have photos of it. It's an airbase. Does the Blackbird have some sort of super camera that can take photos of underground bunkers that we don't know of? Or are you thinking that they can turn into Jetfire and teleport anywhere in the world?

Ha ha ha ha! That's funny, because the Blackbird was indeed designed built and tested through Lockheed Martin's "Skunkworks" at Area 51 along with the U2, F-117 and the F-22 and skunkworks is still operating there. And of course they can't transform into jetfire nothing can, at least nothing we've experienced. Is it out there? Improbable. Unlikely. Not Impossible. But Jetfire in Transformers 2 was really cool, certainly lived up to the hype and my expectations, I thought.

And of course, if the US planned on needing a Spy Plane, then the hypothetical Aurora would be a much better replacement (assuming it existed).

Oh, you should never doubt what you or any of us is never sure about. There have been pictures. You haven't seen it but neither have I. That is to say I haven't seen anything I could truly catalogue as "Aurora" but I have seen many U.F.O.s and you know to mean Unidentified Flying Object you must've seen some of those too, I mean if it's an object flying and you can't identify it then it is an Unidentified Flying Object.

At 11/12/09 08:55 AM, TheMason wrote:

At 11/12/09 01:34 AM, Iron-Claw wrote:

SR-71: The Blackbird doesn't really "outfox" bullets or missiles. It simply flies too high and too fast to get hit. However, it is incredibly expensive to fly. Then there is the fact that its sensor configurations are extremely obsolete. It is simply not cost effective to update the aircraft to the point where it is mission effective. Besides spy satellites and even the rejuvinated U-2s are more than adequate (and cost effective) than the Blackbird.

You should also know that the SR-71 has a very low radar profile that appears 1/16 that of an F/A-18 and was one of the precursors to stealth design hadn't quite perfected it yet but it was a step in the right direction, you knew that, right? You can call me crazy but one day we're gonna need the blackbird for something, and when we don't have it...you'll be sorry. all of you will. And spy satellites are not so reliable they couldn't find Pakistan and India's underground tests nor Osama Bin Laden. And the people disagree we still can't find anything above the surface of Area 51.