That's right, it's Jordie's 18th birthday today, so let's all wish him an awesome and sexy birthday. :D

In honor of his love of catgirls, here's my present to him:

At 11/8/09 12:03 PM, Lost-Chances wrote: Wow, you're the evil one? That's just classic. I thought it'd be more likely that I'd be bashed to hell for supporting what Hitler did to the economic problem there.

They've had a problem with me for months now.

I'm just glad they're out of here.

At 11/8/09 06:51 AM, Akkryls wrote: Oh; and IFUN?
Does Singirl666 have something against you?
[She]'s got a whole post calling you a troll and a bitch...
http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1119 867

She's supposedly gamer's sister. The entire self-proclaimed "gamer crew" has the same thing against me that gamer does, for whatever reason. They think I'm a bible bashing, trans-hating, misogynistic homophobe who has sex with animals. They're also convinced that I hacked their site and that my number one priority is screwing with them (How egocentric).

But, as long as they're not going to post in this thread anymore, that's all irrelevant.

At 11/8/09 07:39 AM, Blush wrote: Most likely not that, but how much people want to do stuff like that. I mean it'd take a pretty courageous person to pinch someone in the ass.

Yeah, I don't have the balls to do anything like that.

At 11/7/09 01:00 PM, Lagamuffin wrote: I got banned for 10 days and this Gamer30hrplus is still fucking here?

Dear christ almighty.

The mods that were watching this thread stopped, I think.

At 11/7/09 01:07 PM, hhcash wrote: Yeah, we should offically readdress this club to accept everyone in the LGBTQA community, I hate the idea of not being accepting.

I never actually intended it to be just for homosexuals and bisexuals, I just didn't think about it when I was coming up with the name.

At 11/7/09 12:11 AM, hhcash wrote: Just curious, what did you say?

I just explained to him the situation and ask if he can do anything about it. He said that if she comes back again just to argue that I should send him another PM and he'll deal with it then.

At 11/7/09 09:42 AM, JohnnyWang wrote: Well, I've been meaning to complain about the name, it's a bit exclusive. But I'm sure this has been brought up before.

Yeah, I should have put LGBTQ, but I didn't think of it at the time.

I PMed Rig about the issue. For now, let's just not reply to her.

At 11/6/09 05:18 PM, Lost-Chances wrote: So, seriously, actually fucking read carefully before accusing me of shit.

This.

Gamer, you read what you want to read, not what's actually written.

Gamer, either learn to have a civil debate or get out. Seriously. And don't reply to me saying "all I wanted to do was talk about.. rabble rabble" because no, you don't just want to talk. Every time we say something that you don't like, you start a bitchfight. That's not standing up for your beliefs, or "fighting a war" as you call it, that's just starting pointless catfights that hinder everyone's ability to enjoy posting in this club.

Any logical person would have figured out that no, L-C doesn't hate Jews or support Hitler. All he said was that WWII saved Germany's economy, which is what wars do. He's not saying he supported the genocide that happened. Hitler was a bastard, but he was a great leader if you look at it objectively. But that's beside the point. The point is that you take everything so ridiculously literally, make such irrational assumptions, and use such absurd logical fallacies that it makes the environment of this club way too hostile. It needs to stop and it needs to stop now.

I'm not trying to attack you, I'm just trying to explain to you why we're having such a problem with you. Don't get me wrong, you bring some really awesome discussion topics to this thread, but the way that you defend your points in just childish.

I tried to ignore the issue at first, but now I'm just sick and tired of it. You do not have the right to attack other users in this club. (I anticipate you turning this around and saying that I'm attacking you, and if you do, that's also childish.) What you've been through is not an excuse to act hostile towards other people.

Also, I also anticipate that you might throw at me the "you're trying to tell me how to act" argument. No, I'm not trying to tell you how to act. What I'm doing is giving you the options of what you can do. You can either leave, be respectful and civil (which, no, you are not doing), or remain as you are and have me attempt to get administrative action taken.

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Anyhoo, today was "social justice day" at our school. For the past two months the social just club at our school (which I'm in) has been planning a day all about exploring and discussing social justice issues. We started out by showing some movies that the students had signed up for that relate to social just issues (ie. I Am Sam for disability, Hairspray for racism and sizism, etc.). After that they discussed them. That was the morning, and then after lunch, they all went to workshops. We had created all of the worshops and we presented them.

There was one on disability, one on white privilege, one on gender roles, and a few others. Mine was on sexuality.

Overall, it was pretty successful. It was awkward at first at the beginning of my workshop because my opening activity, I found, wasn't thought through as thoroughly as I thought it had been. But, once I got into the main part of it, it got better. We had a good discussion after it.

Planning the day was both really stressful and really fun. I think we're planning on doing it again next year.

At 11/6/09 11:28 AM, Punkboyben wrote: Can't we just get along? NOW EVERYBODY HUG!

We need some serious queertastic hugging over here.

At 11/5/09 07:18 PM, TheRadicalOne wrote:

It is so hard to convey sarcasm in text...

The sarcasm was clear, it just went over gamer's head...

The woman in the middle looks like she's thanking the lawd.

Dayumn.

At 11/5/09 05:22 PM, Ass-Crumb wrote: It'd be fucking embarassing, and to add to that it'd be pretty mean to the dog too.

I wouldn't consider it mean to the dog. Dogs don't pay mind to whether humans think they're cute.

Jesus H Christ, it took me ages to type up this post because I had it all typed up, then I accidentally copied something else and lost the who thing.

At 11/4/09 10:00 PM, gamer30hrplus wrote: You seem to be attacking me rather then listening to my side.

Those who live in glass houses ought not throw stones.

At 11/5/09 12:24 AM, Sensationalism wrote: This is a gay/bi club and I feel like we've gone way off topic discussing religion like this. There's an Atheist Army club thing and probably some other clubs that this would be better suited for.

I agree. The argument started out relevant, because we were talking about the religious right's effect on the gay rights movement, but now we're just arguing about whether god exists.

It's nice to have different perspectives from different people. Nobody knows the answer for sure, that's why it's so nice to hear what everyone has to say. :3

As long as everyone's willing to listen.

At 11/5/09 12:50 AM, gamer30hrplus wrote: Maine voted to not allow gay marriage.
What a blow.
Domestic partnership is still legal though.

Yeah, I heard about that.

They say it was in (a large) part due to smear campaigns.

At 11/5/09 01:40 AM, TheRadicalOne wrote: Yes! Yes we did it! We stopped the gays from getting married!

Such an emotional moment. *sniff*

Let us have a toast, gentlemen, to oppression.

At 11/5/09 02:35 AM, hhcash wrote: That really sucks. I don't know why states can't just do this stuff.

I'm still baffled by how it's considered constitutional. The government shouldn't force churches to become open and affirming, but it still should be legal for those churches that do want to. And people should still have the option to be married by the state.

At 11/5/09 03:58 AM, gamer30hrplus wrote: Then explain it to me there young one.
Who's side is he on cause i do not think he is on the side with the gays. What i see is someone that is glad (us LGBT) do not have rights and that same sex marriage is wrong.Your right i get upset when someone says things like that. I am to old and have been in to many fights not to be. So forgive me if i do not get what he is saying. Cause i have been around the block to many times. I have seen none gay people say they are gay to get info on them to hurt them. So yeah i am a bit uneased here. maybe you could sheed some light as to what he ment. Cause in my experiance it is harrashment and saying that they are against gays.

Sar-ca-sm. [sahr-kaz-uhm] Sarcasm. Jesus.

At 11/5/09 11:45 AM, hhcash wrote: Sorry gamer, but you need to calm down a little bit. That sarcasm was extremely obvious and hilarious.

^

At 11/5/09 12:12 PM, JohnnyWang wrote: Despite my activism, i don't really place that much importance on gay marriage. Sure, it has its pperks, but why should we imitate the heteronormative culture that way, and the GLBT groups direct too much of their resources to fight foor the right to marry ignoring other battles.

I don't care much for the symbolism of marriage, but I do care about the rights. The tax cuts, child custody rights, social security, visiting rights, etc.

But, anyways, welcome.

At 11/4/09 09:14 PM, gamer30hrplus wrote:

I thought you said you put her "in the hospital?"

No i put others in the hospital. That was back when i was a christian. I was like under 13 then. I was under the belief that anyone that said anything against you or bad about your family. BEat the hell outa them in the name of god cause if you did not then you were a bad seed.

Ah, okay. The way you replied to sensationalism made it sound like your cousin was the one you put in the hospital.

As soon as i actually read the bible and started paying attention in church i found out how much BS was being preached. I was a history person since i could remember. I will forever believe in a history book over any religion or a person that goes to church and i will never believe ever word of someone that goes to church as the turth.

It can't be said that all of religion is false because there's no way to prove or disprove god and in many churches (at least where I am), the bible stories are taught as parables and not facts. The pastor of the church that I go took took our youth group to the Boston science museum where we watched a presentation on the origins of the universe. So, don't assume that the belief system of everyone who has strong religious beliefs is completely flawed, as it seems like you are.

I understand that it was a bad situation for you, but my viewpoint remains the same.

At 11/4/09 08:23 PM, gamer30hrplus wrote: I never got physical with her.

I thought you said you put her "in the hospital?"

At 11/4/09 02:48 PM, Sensationalism wrote: I don't think anything should be solved with physical violence either. I'm just saying I can understand why she would lash out violently as a result from the stress and pressure. Not saying it's right, but it happens. We're only human.

Yeah, it's definitely understandable.

Just a few weeks ago, Obama signed a hate crime bill that expanded the definition of hate crimes to include crimes committed due to sexual orientation.

So, this means that this country wasn't willing to protect LGBTQ individuals from physical violence until the end of October, 2009? This isn't even about whether homosexuality is right or wrong. It's about the safety of individuals. It's ridiculous. But, better late than never.

At 11/4/09 12:03 AM, Sensationalism wrote: I think the situation you were in makes it more understandable that you would lash out violently in anger. It's not like you were just having a discussion with a random person that turned violent. This family tension is just the thing that would be a catalyst leading to physical violence.

I don't think anything should be solved with physical violence because there's no logic or reason in violence. Violence won't resolve an issue, make amends, create a compromise, create understanding and empathy, or work out a problem in any way. It may effectively vent your anger, but that's only a short term reward, and only for one side. It just makes the other side angrier and will result in further consequences. In my eyes, the only situation where it would be acceptable to use violence is if your cousin physically attacked you first. In that case, it's self defense. But, otherwise, violence does more hard than good.

If you had walked away peacefully from that situation accepting that you didn't have a way at that point to get through to your cousin, you would have been the bigger person. If she thinks you're the child of Satan (which is ridiculous), then violence is just going to reinforce her belief.

At 11/3/09 11:05 PM, gamer30hrplus wrote: Well here the think. If you go to church but say that believing this or that about the bible is not right. It makes no sense.

I never said believing in the bible is wrong. I said that hiding behind bible passages to back up preexisting prejudices is wrong.

It is like a Minister saying that what he preaches is not right. Let me guess you believe in the father, son and the Holy Father?

Actually, I'm a Deist. I believe that god doesn't interact much with the world. I like the messages taught in the services at the church I attend.

I was a Lutheran for many years. It is basically Blasphamy to say that the bible is not true or to contradict anything about The Savior, god or what the bible says.

I don't believe that the bible should be taken literally. I'm not claiming that what the bible is saying is true or false because I don't believe it to be a historical record. I believe it's a collection of parables. Now, I'm not claiming that to be a fact, I'm just saying that's what I believe.

I can quote several passages and provide several books that show the truth about religion and its lies and deceitfulness. Cause I am one that will fight to the death over how false religion is. Others have found that out the hard way. I have not killed anyone yet over it. But I have sent some people to the hospital over it.
"Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst." Thomas Paine The age of Reason 1896

Religious belief in and of itself is not corrupt or deceitful. You can believe whatever you want as long as you don't harm others in the process. It's the doctrinal institutions that are corrupt and deceitful.

You physically harm others over a religious debate? What good does that do? All that does is perpetuate the situation further. You're not going to make anything better by assaulting those who think differently than you. The way I see it, you should confront them with logic and reason, not violence. When logic and reason doesn't work, you move on to address something else. If you become violent, then you just reinforce the belief that you're some sort of reprobate.

At 11/3/09 08:13 PM, gamer30hrplus wrote:

Worshiping different gods isn't illegal.

I know, that's part of my point.

I take it IFUN you never went to church?

I went with my parents to a Congregational church from age four or five to age 11. I had no choice in that. But, for the passed four years, I've been going by choice to a very liberal Lutheran church. I wrote a 40 page, interview based research paper on the psychology of religious beliefs and spirituality and come from a very spiritual family.

Why?

People pick from the bible all of the things that fit their agenda, but discard all of what doesn't.

Adultery isn't illegal. Sodomy/oral sex isn't illegal. Divorce isn't illegal. Worshiping different gods isn't illegal. But, homosexual marriage is illegal even though all of the aforementioned things are held to just as high of a value in the bible. Hm.

At 11/2/09 10:16 PM, gamer30hrplus wrote: That is differant then when i was in school. When did that change?

My parents were taught the same thing.

God dammit, posting times.

At 11/2/09 10:04 PM, gamer30hrplus wrote: Most users on here from what i seen still do not believe that females or lesbians are on this site. It is really sad that people think that but then again the ones that claim to be gay or female that are not are the ones that hurt us the most.

It's not that people seriously believe that there are absolutely no women that visit this site, it's that they believe that the amount of actual women is substantially lower than the amount of users who claim to be women. And that's a good bit true.

But, it doesn't matter because whether or not someone believes you're a women has nothing to do with your ability to enjoy the site and be a part of the community.

As for flamers, anyone who draws unnecessary attention to themselves for any reason, including sexuality, is annoying.

At 11/2/09 10:08 PM, gamer30hrplus wrote: Like saying "My ancestors" correct?

You would never say "my ancestors" in an academic/formal write up, yes, because the write up is not supposed to be personal.

And by informal I mean not academic as "my" would never be used in an academic write up.

At 11/2/09 09:43 PM, gamer30hrplus wrote: You have a habit of using that as you're arguement alot.
One peice of advice When someone says this is mine or that is mine it usually causes fights especially when The Item is not theirs. Just something to work on IFUN. We all have things we could work on.

Except for the fact that it's a valid point. I'm using "my" to add voice to the post. It's a relatively common informal literary technique.

At 11/2/09 09:29 PM, gamer30hrplus wrote: Since when did you buy the schools in the country?

The use of the word "my" is not meant to be taken literally.

I agree. Max 20 is reasonable because you can always search again for more keywords, but min 4 is useless being that many threads have important keywords that are 3 or less characters.

Google site:www.newgrounds.com/bbs *keyword* and you should get what you're looking for.

To the contrary, that emoticon doesn't look nearly as mentally retarded as it should to be deemed the troll emoticon.

To sum it all up, get your religion out of my secular school system. kthxbai.

I have yet to hear a secular argument against homosexuality. Until one is found, it's completely and utterly unconstitutional to create laws based on religious beliefs.

Raising awareness about hate crimes committed against homosexuals and talking academically about homosexuality is not pushing the "homosexual agenda." This just show how desperate these people are to enforce their arguments when they can't back them up with facts or logic.

At 10/31/09 04:03 PM, tejowlyinsurancedog wrote: Hi guys and gals, sorry I havent been posting at all. I broke my leg and have beenin hospital for three weeks, cast should be off by threeish months, buti cant do anything at all right now. Bye byee xxx

Three weeks in the hospital for a broken leg?

I hardly ever make threads, but when I do, they usually get somewhere between 15 - 40 replies.

Omitting clubs, my longest thread was like 4 pages, or something.

At 10/29/09 09:23 PM, MuzikProd wrote: YEA IKR?! but i know people who went

Yeah, I went for a walk today and when I got near the center of town, there were kids in costumes everywhere. Strange happenings.

Why go trick or treating two days before Halloween?