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When one really thinks about how all of us humans are descended from a small group of nomadic hunter-gatherers in east Africa, racial distinctions start to become less vivid to one's mind. In fact, studies have shown that the racial differences of humanity have very little meaning genetically (source). Genetic variations are far more significant between individual humans than between racial groups. So a black person can be more genetically similar to a white person than to another black person. Therefore, racial differences account for only a small part of our genetics, too small to have anything to do with a person's intelligence. All genetic evidence that has been so far accumulated shows no connection between racial characteristics and intelligence (or any other "meaningful" human qualities like ambition, creativity, willpower, etc.) It is quite improbable, Funk, to claim that Frederick Douglas's success as a human being is attributable to the fact that he had caucasian blood because you cannot prove this genetically.

All laws in the USA that prohibited sodomy were repealed in 2003 by a Supreme Court ruling of Lawrence v. Texas. Look it up if you don't believe me. Sodomy is legal everywhere in the United States nowadays.

Alright, guys, I just wanna put in my 2 cents here.

All of the world's laws, including the U.S. Constitution, are just worthless scraps of paper without the people who support the laws and enforce them by violently coercing those who are against the laws. In other words, laws have no actual tangible existence by themselves. The only exist as the things that a group of people with a bunch of weapons tell other people to do or not to do. Just because the people with the weapons (the government) have a law on paper does not mean that they are absolutely going to enforce that law. Unless they support the law, they aren't going to enforce it. Often, the people with the weapons will enforce laws that are contrary to other laws, as in the example put forward in this thread: the FCC, which is contrary to the freedom of speech, at least in the Timmy_B's interpretation. However, the government's interpretation matters a lot more in this country, because they are the people with the guns, the nukes, and every other weapon in their arsenal that they use to enforce their laws. Do you agree with this theory? Yes or no?

It doesn't really matter what everyone else thinks, because they don't have any weapons with which to enforce their rules. Timmy_B, if you want to enforce your own rules, you're gonna have to get into government, which essentially means that you are gonna have to gain control of a bunch of weapons that you will use to enforce the laws that YOU support. Otherwise, your opinion doesn't really matter at all in the real world. The government usually enforces the censorship agenda of soccer mom cunts and fundie motherfuckers instead of enforcing the free-speech agenda of authority-hating teenagers like me and you.

Uh, Tank, it was in SOUTH ASIA, in PAKISTAN, not "Palestine."

At 9/25/05 11:16 AM, pandaporn wrote: American is the richest country in the world yet it have one of the worst rates of poverty in the western. In New Orleans, almost every white person managed to evacuate and left behind a larger, poorer black community who couldn't afford to evacuate. I find it humorous that ever with the threat of drowning or dying in someother means, they still manage to loot shops for the "important" thing. No, I don't mean food, clothing or means of shelter, I mean televisons that the could hardly lift (so I doubt they were using them as floats) and couldn't plug in anywhere as power lines were cut.

As a single entity, the USA is a very rich country; but it's also a highly stratified one. There's a large gap between the rich and poor in America because we have a very LIBERAL economic system. There's much less government interference in our economy than, for example, the social democracies of Scandinavia. In the USA, there's no limit to how rich you can get and no limit to how poor you can be.

In another topic in Newgrounds, they said that they felt the hurricane was I good thing. In my opinion, the only good thing that came from the hurricane was how the rest of the world saw American, the American government and the stupidity of the people living in American and how America is divided between white rich America and poor black America.

You can't pidgeonhole our country into "rich white America" and "poor black America." Just because most rich people in our country are white does not mean that most white people in our country are rich. There are many poor white people and many rich black people in the USA. In fact, MOST of the people who are below the poverty line in America are white (source). Caucasians account for 51% of the American population that lives in poverty. The only racial group to experience a rise in poverty in recent years were the whites (source ). Besides whites and blacks, there are also other racial groups in the United States with high percentages of people in poverty. For example, a quarter of the Native American population lives below the poverty line. So you should really think of class and income as something that is separate from race.

At 9/25/05 01:16 PM, Flashfire wrote: Ahhhhh I remember when I used to a whiney little teen with the same amount of knowledge on economics, politics and philosophy as a plastic spoon. Y'know it's no wonder socialism is so amazingly sucessful when you behold the horrors of a capitalist democracy.

Oh, how I remember those days! I was the same way. Of course, it's completely natural for young people to be half-assed pinko commies. It's actually extremely common. As a group, young people are always gonna be more left than right. But most of us grow out of that phase eventually. We work out all of our radical leftist sympathies when we are young and then settle down to become more moderate, or we drift toward the right.

At 9/10/05 09:23 PM, DamienK wrote: No need to apologize, you just asked to see how it was a satire.

That apology was directed at everyone, really. I just need to chill. Laughter is associated with an interrupted defense mechanism. It developed when we were all cavemen. Are ancestors would laugh when they realized something was not a threat. For example, when one member of the tribe started to choke on a mammoth bone, everyone started to get worried. But when he coughed it out, they all laughed to show that the bone wasn't a threat anymore. So laughter is associated with the ability realize that something is not threatening and to just chill. It's the ability to take things easy in the midst of false threats. That's probably why you don't see fearful, paranoid, or angry people laughing too much. They see threats all around them, so they don't interrupt their defense mechanisms. I suppose that I'm just too angry to interrupt my defense mechanism much of the time, so I don't have much of a sense of humor. I guess I need to learn to just chill.

At 9/10/05 08:58 PM, DamienK wrote: stuff

You know, DamienK, you're right. I talked about this with LadyGrace on the chatroom I eventually did get the joke, although I still didn't think it was funny. Nevertheless, I'm sorry that I acted like an asshole. I reacted way too quick to this topic because it filled me with furious anger. I did not take the time analyze the humor in the thread. I guess you could call me a tightly wound jerk-off who has lost his sense of humor.

At 9/10/05 05:52 PM, LadyGrace wrote: sat·ire
n.
1.
1. A literary work in which human vice or folly is attacked through irony, derision, or wit.
2. The branch of literature constituting such works. See Synonyms at caricature.
2. Irony, sarcasm, or caustic wit used to attack or expose folly, vice, or stupidity.

Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it's not funny. In fact, that makes it more funny. You're probably one of those people who read a modest proposal and thought about how evil the author must have been to exploit those poor Irish children. Furthermore you're "I forgive you" statement is just you being a pompous, pretentious asshole. People don't need more people like you with their holier than thou attitude. You were an asshole, and I think a good smack to the head would be in order.

LadyGrace, I have no idea what "poor Irish children" you are talking about. But that is beside the point.

Who are you to accuse other people of being pretentious? I swear that you are one of the most snobbish people I have ever met. Your attitude, the way you express yourself, and your worldview is unquestionably snobbish to the point of being bourgeois. You're full of so much shit that it's hilarious and infuriating at the same time. How do you expect us to find any satire in Proteas' pile of shit? Oh, I'm sorry we don't have amazingly high IQ's like you do, milady. We are just too common to understand the fine subtleties of satire.

You need to explain in detail what and where the goddamn satire is, and you need to cite Proteas' words in order to back your argument up.

At 9/10/05 03:48 PM, LadyGrace wrote: Seriously, I find this entire thread really fucking amusing. You shouldn't have apologized. If people can't understand satire, then screw them. You know who stands by you and who doesn't. The rest of these people can suck my balls.

Inform me of the so-called "satire" in this thread. I do not see any humor here whatsoever. Where are the jokes? I don't see any fucking jokes. As far as I know, Proteas is glad that Hurricane Katrina hit because it took some protesters out of the media's spotlight. What is the fucking satire in that, huh? He's basically saying that all the damage and casualties caused by Katrina was worth it so Camp Casey would get less attention. That doesn't sound like a joke to me. That sounds pretty obvious.

At 9/10/05 01:36 PM, Proteas wrote: I am this close *holds thumb and forefinger a centimeter apart* to setting you on fire and dancing in your ashes, hammurabi. Don't push your luck.

Jesus fucking Christ! I give you my earnest forgiveness and you respond to me with an death threat (not that I'm actually afraid of an e-threat, you pussy). I take my forgiveness back. YOU ARE REALLY AN ASSHOLE.

At 9/10/05 11:44 AM, Proteas wrote: All right all right.... Gah... I took this too far, I'm sorry.

Thank you, Proteas. I forgive you. I really, really do. I like it when a person can repent for something that he or she did that was wrong. You're really not such a horrible person after all.

At 9/9/05 10:33 PM, DamienK wrote: I don't think he realizes he did anything wrong. We'll never get through to him. Plus, he hasn't even said anything this whole time since his first stupid post. But you go ahead and wait for his apology, I don't fucking care. There's so many idiots in this world. *bangs head on wall in frustration*

I'm almost positive that Proteas is gonna back down from the comments he has made here. He's kind of like Pat Robertson when he made those vile comments about 9/11 and Hugo Chavez. In both incidents, Pat had to apologize eventually. Like Pat Robertson, Proteas talks like he has a paper asshole. He says stupid things and then he has to end up eating his words.

At 9/9/05 10:27 PM, GoldenToe wrote: Wow, you're a major douchebag.

Agreed. Proteas has just destroyed all of his credibility unless he apologizes. I'm still waiting.

Proteas, you have just shown what a smarmy, petty asshole you are. You have revealed yourself to be the lowest piece of shit on the BBS, and I hope your happy about it. In all my life, I have never seen anything more sickening posted on this forum. Your message is clear: you prefer to have millions of people suffer and die so some powerless mom doesn't get attention from the media. Not only is this message vile; it is also insane and retarded. It shows that you hate some protesters in Crawford more than you lament one of the worst natural disasters in American history. How can you compare Cindy to Katrina? Has Camp Casey done ANYTHING comparable to the irreversible damage that Katrina has done? Has Camp Casey done anything at all?

If you apologize for this vile thread, I will forgive you, and perhaps I will not think of you as such a cunt if you repent. Otherwise, I will do the best I can to show everyone on the BBS what an asshole you are by linking my sig to this thread.

Yes AND no.

Personally, I have no problem with gay marriage, but I'm also realistic about the whole situation. A lot of people have a big problem with gay marriage, and they're gonna be mad as hell if the government makes it legal all across the nation. The one thing this country needs is LESS ANGER. Therefore, it's better to leave the whole gay marriage thing up to the states. Different states have different cultures. Some states are more devoutly religious than others, and those states are likely to be fervently against gay marriage. But the states that are less devout are more likely to tolerate it and make it legal. So in order not to upset too many people, leave it up to the states.

At 8/27/05 11:46 PM, problemchild1 wrote: well were the ones doing all the desruction and cats and lizards and bugs have been living on the planet longer than us they never do a thing that screws up the natural balance of earth and yet somehow were the ones doing all the work it almost seems as if humans are just a bunch of unwated visitors staying only because we think the planet is ours and we rule it more than anthing else

Use some god damn punctuation! Your writing style gives me brain cancer!

Anyway, the answer to your question is obvious. We own the whole fucking world, and none of the other animals have done half the shit we have done. We fucking created civilization! That's what makes humans so special. Eventually, we will colonize other parts of the universe, like the Moon, Mars, the Asteroid Belt, and beyond. I'd like to see an inferior animal do that! So screw all the lower animals, because there is only one animal that owns all the others: Homo Sapiens. HUMAN POWER!!!

At 8/15/05 08:58 PM, NGWOAnarchyPenguin wrote: Utopia is simple.

Removal of all things that promote the opposite of Happiness. Since Happiness is relative, Utopia has to be relative to each individual.

Dystopia is the same but in reverse.

Exactly. That was one of the points I was trying to make in my starting post. Happiness, as well as sadness, is completely relative, and the relativity of these feelings is what causes conflict and war. The purpose of this thread is for each person to post what constitutes a utopia or a dystopia from their point-of-view.

As to what things make me happy, I'm only partial aware.

Can you try to find out what they are, please?

At 8/15/05 08:02 PM, GorillaUnit485 wrote: My utopia would be libertarian to some extent, so freedom of religion, freedom of speech, that kind of thing, but I would draw the line shorter than most libertarians.

Marijuana would be legal in your home, but outlawed at places where it could be harmful, such as public places. Tobacco would be legal in restaurants and bars, but a non-smoking section would be encouraged.

That sounds reasonable to me.

The right to bear arms would be limited to those who pass a background check and pass a side-arm proficiency test.

Also a good idea.

Schools would receive a crapload of funding, and in war our nation would remain neutral, unless we were forced to choose a side (WW2)

Yes, that's good. Give them a crapload of funding. I completely agree. Make sure that everyone has access to a good education and make sure that each school district receives equal funding, even in the areas that have a lot of poverty. But school should not be compulsory. I think that one of the reasons that there's so much controversy over things like "Condoms vs. Abstinence" or "Evolution vs. Intelligent Design" is because their children are forced to go to school. If education is funded sufficiently and equitably, yet not compulsory, I think the parents will complain a lot less.

The market would have restrictions to keep big corporations from becoming TOO big. Basically I would want my nation to be a place to be safe and live your life any way you choose.

Completely agree.

This is my dystopia. An oppressive oligarchy controls every aspect of our lives. No one has any freedoms. Censorship is pervasive and freedom of religion is outlawed. We are forced to conform to the ideology that the government enforces. The vast majority of the population lives in a state of abject poverty while the ruling elite continues to remain obscenely wealthy. Harmless pleasures and harmless hedonism among the common people is outlawed, even as the hypocrites in government live an insanely hedonistic lifestyle. The common people are nothing more than slaves who are owned and controlled in perpetual bondage by the government. To maintain control, the government uses a divide-and-conquer strategy in which it pits different racial and ethnic groups against eachother in an endless civil war. Basically, this is the classic tyranny.

My utopia is a tolerant democracy. There is no government censorship WHATSOEVER. Freedom of speech is TOTAL AND ABSOLUTE. People are allowed to do whatever they want to do as long as it doesn't harm others or conflict with the others. In other words, people cannot use physical coercion or cause physical harm to others; and the government, as well as the people to which it belongs are allowed to defend themselves against such crimes. People have the right to bear arms as long as they pass the test and earn a license. Everyone has the right to defend themselves against the physical aggression of others, including the government if it ever becomes tyrannical. Punishment for criminal acts does exist, but rehabilitation is the top priority. People are allowed to harm themselves within certain limits. For example, drugs like marijuana are legal, but extremely harmful drugs like heroin and cocaine are illegal. The government doesn't solve all the people's problems, but it makes sure that everyone is given the choice of being provided with the bare necessities, such as food, shelter, sanitation, and a decent education. People can, of course, refuse all these government services if they want to. There isn't an extreme separation of church and state. It's not like all religion is abolished from the public sphere. However, freedom of religion is TOTAL AND ABSOLUTE.

Most of us have ideas of how the world should be and how it shouldn't be. We have our own ideologies of what constitutes a desirable or undesirable society. Some of us may have a strong desire to shape and mold society in a manner that's compatible with our own ideals; many of us will fight ferociously against those who try to establish a society that is antithetical to our own ideals. Our beliefs of what constitutes a utopia or a dystopia are varied and diverse. Often our beliefs conflict with the beliefs of others, and this conflict of beliefs has led to many wars (and flame wars! XD). Sometimes it seems that our ideologies are completely irreconcilable with the ideologies of others. We may feel as if we have nothing in common with many other humans. This is one of humanity's greatest problems.

So I decided to create this thread. I intend for this thread to be a place where people can write down their ideas of what constitutes an ideal and/or hellish society without being flamed (hopefully) by anyone. In this thread, you can write down your utopia, your dystopia, or both. To anyone who desires to post in this thread, please don't start a flame war. Even if you perceive someone else's ideas to be ridiculous or evil, you must hold in your anger. You must remember that I want this thread to be a place where people can freely and openly discuss their utopias and dystopias without the threat of being flamed. If you can just be respectful, this thread will go far. This is the big question, baby! This is one of the main reasons that we have partisan political opinions.

This is a picture of my asshole commie brother.

At 8/7/05 01:54 AM, fli wrote: April Fools isn't until next year...
So what's the story of Hammurabi?

He's in the asylum. End of story. You should be happy. Hammurabi was an asshole. This ain't no April Fools joke. To prove that I'm telling you the truth, I'll even show a picture of myself.

Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Murderous Hedonist. I am the biological brother of the insufferable communist that you know as King Hammurabi. You will happy to know that my brother is now incarcerated in an asylum for the clinically insane. You needn't worry about seeing his populist banter on the BBS for a long time, because his asylum doesn't provide internet access! My brother has allowed me to use his account for the period of his incarceration, which, I assure you, will be a very long time indeed. Let us congratulate my brother on his incarceration. Congratulations, Hammurabi, you insane, hypocritical fool! I applaud your useless efforts at promoting a ridiculous ideology, but it is now time for you to give the good people at Newgrounds a break from your assholery.

My mission here is to promote my own hedonistic self-interests. I will form alliances with anyone who shares the same self-interests that I do, but I will become the bitter enemy of anyone who opposes my hedonistic lifestyle.

At 7/29/05 01:12 AM, Thorfalcon wrote: (fine, evening shift... here's your correctly-placed thread. no more locking the thread simply because you disagree with me.... lib)

This posturing, conniving, evil wants to be your President.

Heil Hillary.

Right on! Hillary Clinton sucks donkey dick. Plain and simple. That cunt should be assraped with the Washington Monument.

At 7/16/05 12:37 AM, _FLAGG wrote: What the fuck are you talking about, Hammurabi? I haven't seen Proteas blame 'the entire administration' for anything.

Sorry, I'm just a bit out of it today, and I know that's a bad excuse.

Peter, I'm not going to argue about whether this conspiracy theory is correct or not. I'm just going to assume that it is correct for now, because I want to ask you a question that pertains to this conspiracy theory. How would it benefit those in power to kill black people? As you said, the AIDS virus was developed by the American government as a political/ethnic weapon against black people, but how would killing black people benefit the U.S. government in terms of money or power? I don't think that I really understand what you're getting at. Could you explain this to me, please?

At 7/15/05 11:29 PM, SadisticSuburbanite wrote: What the fuck? Why the hell do you hate my guts? I didn't do anything to you.

This isn't the place to talk about this. We will talk about this somewhere else -- more specifically, the #ngwar chatroom.

At 7/15/05 10:38 PM, SadisticSuburbanite wrote: Stuff that's pretty intelligent for a douchebag.

Despite the fact that I hate SadisticSuburbanite's guts, I'm afraid that I have to agree with what he just said. Right-wingers and left-wingers should be able to agree on all of those four things. Right-wingers and left-wingers should analyze the real issues and should courteously discuss ways of solving them instead of participating in angry partisanship.