Alright, until further notice, the Wesker Mercenaries Theme is winning as the credits music with 4 votes, and the RE4 Opening remix is winning as menu music with 2 votes. I'm kind of bumbed that we didn't choose the Escape the Lab theme as Credits music, but I guess I'm still just too much of a fanboy of Darkside Chronicles (but you guys got to play it, it's awesome). And the RE4 Opening Remix would work perfectly as menu music for this collab, so I'm happy that one came out on top.

Oh, and I was looking for a theme from Darkside Chronicles before, but it wasn't the main menu music, it was the results screen music. I thought it would also have been a great candidate for menu music.

I'd like to reiterate something I said earlier:

At 11/21/09 01:37 AM, Gustavos wrote: We can change each of the winners, but it will go by majority rule, with everybody voting yes or no if it should be changed (and to make it fair, there needs to be votes from five different people).

So once voting ends tomorrow, we can do a quick yes or no if we want that results screen theme instead, but it's not that much better than the current winner for menu music.

Proof:

At 11/14/09 7:34 AM, TomFulp wrote: We will likely do it again this year! I should probably make the call-out soon.

At 11/13/09 11:11 PM, Gustavos wrote: Say, Tom. Remember last year when you gave out tablets to promising animators ever day for the month of December? That was totally tubular! Even though I didn't get one, I was happy that you were checking out NG's underdog animators. It would be really cool if you did that again this year. Say, did I mention that I never got one???

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You can tell because admins put quoted text under their response instead of above like the rest of us.

I pmed Tom a few weeks ago. Yes, they are doing the same thing they did last year. I've been crossing my fingers ever since.

I believe this is a matter or principal. Nobody should take your work without first asking or giving credit.

I always forget that code too, but I just go back to one of my previous movie projects that used it.

At 11/22/09 07:06 PM, Helbereth wrote:
BTW, I have made final decisions on my VAs and sent out the script... I don't really expect it back until after Thanksgiving, though.

This is the first time I've ever been looking forward to doing character animation.

Well hell, it beats the shite out of making backgrounds, or generally, anything in flash. I hate lip syncing, walk cycles, and the whole list of possible animations, but at least I'm moving the movie along while doing it.

Helbereth, before I forget again, I need you to confirm one of your votes on music in this collab. You put your extra vote to Wesker's Mercenary Theme, but didn't say if you wanted it as menu music or credits music. I need a decision, ASAP.

At 11/22/09 01:49 PM, bocodamondo wrote: i vote RE4 remix for menu
&
wesker Merc. theme for credits

Don't want to use your extra vote? You still have time.

At 11/22/09 01:41 PM, Helbereth wrote: the 'children are the FBI' part are because all the children you see on the internet are FBI agents trying to entrap child molesters/pornographers.

Only on social sites like Myspace. Not on sites where everybody stays anonymous for the sake of being anonymous. Like, for example, Newgrounds. There are two users here who have access to information leading to my first name, but nothing else. On the internet, I are Gustavos.

It's anonymous sites like this that encompass 80% of the interwebz. I think that internet "axiom" you heard meant something else.

It has nothing to do with the average intelligence of children (which is both getting higher and lower every year...).

What a strange paradox you have there. Please illiterate.

A "paradox" is a literary term meaning a sentence, or simple piece of information, that contradicts itself when put literally.

I think you guys got him, nice work.

It's also a custom for the leader of a collab to also be a flash animator. Without Flash, you can't put those parts together.

At 11/21/09 11:28 PM, Helbereth wrote: The internet. Where men are men, women are men,

The women on the internet are strange anyway. I was acquainted with two female Ngers, one had a bunch of fetishes and posted Hentai pics on her user page of these fetishes. One, a simple foot fetish, the other, a fetish of seeing balls, male genital balls, being smashed like fruits by mallets, and often a woman's foot. Yes, you should stay away from her.

The other woman was a lesbian. But she was awesome.

and children are the FBI.

Hey, it's not so bad. At least we're not Myspacers. Oh, scratch that. We go to Facebook now. Myspace will be obsolete by a year and a half I'd say.

But I'm not going to change anybody's opinion. I am inferior right?

No, no. I know how and why people don't like children all over their internet.

Yeah. sorry, you cannot lead a collab here.

I would also reccomend asking for Kirbopher's permission first before starting the sequel. Always get the permission of the original leader before making a sequel to a collab. They may find out anyway, and won't be happy about you stealing their idea.

This is embarrassing. I watched all of that show last night, but remember nothing about a song with lyrics in it.

At 11/21/09 06:59 PM, GOTHCLAWZ wrote: Well I was kinda wondering if I could apply for a character role for voice acting.

We don't take kindly to you Britts in these parts.

Nah, just kidding, but next time, make it more clear you're talking to us. It sounds like that post was meant for somebody else. Somebody you forgot to quote. I don't think anybody announced they're in urgent need of a male voice actor.

Volume 27

Say, long time no see, huh?

GameOver Thinker wants us to think about which characters will be remembered in the future besides Mario and...well, that's it.

All I really want to comment on is the ending. Damn straight. Kirby will never die.

Volume 26 is here, but I passed it off as irrelevant. Not much to say, and in my opinion, not much to agree on.

At 11/21/09 06:51 PM, LTmatt wrote: Heilig scheiße.

Oh, you just think you're so funny, don't you?

How do you type that capital "b" that makes the "ss" sound?

Holy shit.

At 11/21/09 04:40 PM, GOTHCLAWZ wrote: Well, I can voice act West country English, London English & Posh English.

Wrong thread? :)

At 11/21/09 04:29 PM, PRIME45664 wrote: For the menu and credit music, I'd still have to go with mine... Just cause they sound cool :p

So, that's one vote for "spooky tension" (RE2) as menu music, and one vote each for End of Umbrella and Wesker's Mercenaries Theme as the credits music.

Here's an update on votes, because we may not be getting much more soon.

Menu theme Top candidates
Umbrella Chronicles menu theme - 1 vote
Spooky Code Veronica music - 1 vote
RE4 Opening Remix - 1 vote
Spooky Tension - 1 vote

Credits theme Top candidates
Escaping the Laboratory - 2 votes
Wesker's Mercenary Theme - 2 votes
End of Umbrella - 1 vote

So, the menu theme could be either of those four at this point, but for credits theme, it looks like a clean tie between two very good pieces of music. But there's a little confusion:

At 11/21/09 02:21 AM, Helbereth wrote: My extra vote that could fit either the menu or credits is the Wesker Mercenaries Theme.

You could make or break the tie right now if you just choose one. I cannot accept two extra votes. So I need you to decide. Would you rather it be credits or menu music?

Ask around, somebody at your school may actually be a flash animator. I've let people borrow my disc three times before. So that they can get the program free. The disc can be reused (as long as you keep the serial number!). There may also be a flash animation class. Discuss this with a media teacher, they should know what you're talking about.

What? Not a high schooler?

Well, I don't know if that's the case.

Here's the missing link to Ada's Groove. Suggested by Helbereth.

FIND INFO ABOUT THE MUSIC VOTING ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE.

RESIDENT EVIL COLLAB 2 PROGRESS:

Member/ BA estimate/ latest update on part(s)
Gustavos/ 3.75/ here
Prime45664/ 4.11/ his three parts can be viewed here
Bocodamondo/ 2.85/ Part #1 Part#2 Part #3
Helbereth/ 4.15/ Many Different Updates
NateofWar/ No submissions to Portal/ A cute update featuring Nemesis with a propeller hat
Dante224/ 4.20/ only a written script
Amtrax91/ 4.00/ rough draft
ChilliC/ no submission that he animated in/ a picture of one of his backgrounds
Ghor7/ 3.70/ rough draft
mydarksides/ 2.85/ no updates yet
DumbassDude/ 4.05/ no updates yet

So, yeah...Darkside Chronicles is still roxing my sox at the moment, but it's hard as all hell. I'm playing on Normal and I died four times already. I was a pro in Umbrella Chronicles. Just a few weeks ago I was playing by myself on Hard mode through the game. I guess the sequel just requires a second player a bit more than the previous one. Umbrella Chronicles was set up like a single player game, and with two people, you hardly ever got hurt.

Err...shit guys, I had to do some stuff. So, let's get out all the suggestions! Voting starts now!

Crossing fingers for all this to show up correctly.

Nemesis battle (Umbrella Chronicles) suggested by Gustavos
Spooky tension (Resident Evil 2) suggested by Prime45664
End of Umbrella (RE4 intro) suggested by Prime45664
Wesker's Mercenaries theme (RE4 Mercenaries) suggested by Prime45664
RE2's Save Room theme Remix sort of suggested by Helbereth
No Socks Tonight suggested by Helbereth
The Great Northern Cave (Final Fantasy 7) suggested by Helbereth
Castlevania 2 theme suggested by Helbereth
Lost Sanctuary (Resident Evil 2) suggested by Helbereth
Ada's Groove (Resident Evil 2) suggested by Helbereth
Umbrella Chronicles Main Menu theme suggested by Gustavos
The Main Hall theme (Resident Evil 2) suggested by Gustavos
Main Hall Theme (Darkside Chronicles version) suggested by Gustavos
Krauser fight (RE4) suggested by Gustavos
RE4 Opening remix (despite this theme being in Umbrella Chronicles, not RE4) suggested by Helbereth
Spooky music (Darkside Chronicles: CV levels) suggested by Gustavos
Escape the laboratory (Darkside Chronicles: RE2 levels) suggested by Gustavos

You can vote for a choice for menu music, and one vote for credits music. And one more vote for that other choice you'd also like, but saw it as second best.

Confused? Check out how I do my vote. I vote for the spooky Code Veronica music for the Menu theme, and the extra vote goes to the Umbrella Chronicles theme, also for our menu. Finally, my credits vote goes to Escaping the Laboratory.

The two songs with the most votes in each category will be selected for this collab. Until further notice. The reason I'm making such a big deal out of this is because I want an update for what we have in the menu. Instead of staring at the picture, imagining what it will eventually look like, we could have the music to help us out. We have to find the right music sometime right? We can change each of the winners, but it will go by majority rule, with everybody voting yes or no if it should be changed (and to make it fair, there needs to be votes from five different people). But until then...

Voting Starts Now! And it will end November 23rd where the winners will be named. Have a great weekend! Get those votes in while you can!

At 11/20/09 08:38 PM, Shadow181 wrote:

At 11/20/09 05:04 PM, BillysProgrammer wrote: because they aren't really doing anything here except cluttering up the forums.

This made me laugh. Ha!
The NG forums is one of the slowest moving forums I've seen.

There are only two that move faster than us. General, and Video Games. MAYBE Where Is/How To ever since the Medals system was implemented here on Newgrounds. When they made leaderboards and a tips and hints thread, people just pored in. But we have a plethora (that's a word right?) of collabs going on right now, so we're a buzz with activity.

Less than an hour and a half until song suggestion deadline.

Here are my last few. Still couldn't find Darkside Chronicles' main menu theme, but whatever. The game sports plenty of other candidates with a great soundtrack.

New version of the Police Station Main Hall theme (we will still have a choice from this, or the original from RE2)

New version of one of Code Veronica's scarier themes.

Escaping from the laboratory in the RE2 levels.

At 11/20/09 12:18 AM, AMTRAX91 wrote: Vote 6.

Does anybody know where that originated from? I only remember it being in Perfect Kirby 3.3 made by my idols, John&Richie. But apparently it was a fad at one point.

At 11/19/09 06:51 PM, AMTRAX91 wrote:

At 11/19/09 04:49 PM, Helbereth wrote:
I've never had to...

Then why did you even mention it?

I believe it was I who brought it up.

At 11/19/09 04:38 PM, AMTRAX91 wrote:

At 11/19/09 12:41 AM, Gustavos wrote: I sure hope you're not planning on fiving your movies every day.

...wow...that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard...

People won't admit it, but it's common. Normally in this site's younger animators. There were even a choice few who did admit it to me, and probably didn't think twice about it being a shameful act.

I never did. But I do have a policy of voting what I think on a movie after I watch it. And I have checked on my past movies maybe five times each. But that's not to say I voted five on them each time. Normally a four, and a five for good luck when I submitted them to the portal.

At 11/19/09 11:19 AM, Helbereth wrote:
On Mad World I ended up taking over the collab AFTER completing my first clip (the intro) I ended up making 2 more clips over the course of production.

Took it over? Did the leader hand over the collab, or did you just steal the show using your awesomeness?

Just recently, for The Universe Collab, I finished my 30 second clip in about 10 days... that one I'm keeping on ice until everyone else finishes.

here's that clip, btw:

Universe Collab Clip

Cool.

I imagined that I'd be one of, if not the first guy to finish up his parts. Even though I knew I was a slow animator. Too many damn great games we're picking up, I have to stop myself from being lured over to the couch or my room to play them. Normally, I'd blame school for it's large amount of work, but I've become a bit more rational in the past year. I can see that roughly an hour of school work a day is not affecting my progress as much as these games are. So I've started treating my games like wine. Savoring them, not consuming them immediately like a drunkard.

Ah, never mind, I don't quite understand my analogies either.

IMPORTANT MESSAGE

At 10 PM EST tomorrow, the deadline for suggesting menu and credits music will be up. And the voting will begin, which will take the course of 48 hours. Get those suggestions in now. Darkside Chronicles' main menu theme would work very well, but I can't find the damn thing. Any suggestions on good sites to find VG music?

At 11/19/09 07:13 PM, Helbereth wrote: More saying that I couldn't effect their score anyway. At least not realistically. That, and I think it's probably the most dishonest thing anyone on NG can do.

It's just a little bit lower than having the phrase 'vote 5' in the movie.

Heh, I guess I'm fine. In one of my older movies, there was a quick "vote four" in it. Five is just too demanding.

At 11/18/09 09:50 PM, ChiliC wrote: Heres my Sheva bros!!

Eh, it's pretty good. :)

At 11/18/09 02:09 AM, AMTRAX91 wrote: I'm getting close to being able to being able to host a collab of my own (i need to bring up gangsta kirby's score above 3.50

I sure hope you're not planning on fiving your movies every day.

or make a video in hopes that it gets a higher score 8D) When I get to that point, my co-collborator and I will be looking for some animators. Moreinfolater. Onadifferettopic. Onanotherday.

Just because you can make a collab, doesn't mean you should. Being a leader is about how well you work with others, how much general knowledge of flash you have, and overall management of the collab's health. You need to be their to answer to people's questions to show them you don't visit NG every three days. You need to be devoted to a collab. Don't start a collab on the same day you came up with the idea. And furthermore, make sure it's a collab worth fighting for. I would have lived a happy life to see my five year old children playing the next Resident Evil game.

Wait, what?

I may not play the part perfectly, but I think I've managed the collab well so far. After all, it's been less than three weeks, and we already have a team of eight (or was it nine?) animators, who have showed SOME progress on their part, thus giving proof that they want to contribute. And all of us, have showed we can kick ass on the Portal Battlefield. You may call it luck that we got here so fast, but I call it...well, luck. I guess.

But then again, our quick pace won't mean anything if we're not committed to quality flash animating. Take your time, guys. Pace yourself.

On a more important topic. I picked up the Darkside Chronicles. My mouth is still hanging open after experiencing it's awesomeness. Playing a new scenario involving Leon and Krauser, reliving Leon's memories of Raccoon City, upgrading the weapons you pick up, shooting objects to obtain notes that add to the story's depth, stunning visuals (for the Wii's standards), and the sheer fun of blasting hordes of zombies in epic scenarios. Sure, the stories of RE2 and Code Veronica were changed so that two people would always be together (allowing the ability to play co-op), but it's still awesome. The ONLY problem I found was the damn camera never staying still. I can't get those juicy, goreific headshots.

Can't wait for the Code Veronica levels. The story is suppossed to be portrayed MUCH better in this game.

At 11/18/09 01:40 AM, AMTRAX91 wrote: The how do you know that my flash BA is 3.80 when it appears as N/A when you do an author search on my name (I actually averaged my top three scores myself and I actually have a 4.00 BA if you calculate correctly)

They were estimated guesses. The BA calculations on Newgrounds have been broken for a good majority of all animators, and, it appears the admins have always been unaware of this. However, I calculated it now, as well, and you're right. It's around 4.00.

Heh, I don't care if it's a mistake or not.

Honestly, games becoming more reliant on story and cutscenes is by no means a bad thing. I don't even know a game that lost gameplay value BECAUSE of it's reliance on story. Games with a good story almost always have miraculous gameplay to back it up. And that's why the industry is evolving. Slowly, but surely. But then again, I haven't played any of your examples. Assasin's Creed, Uncharted. Not quite on my list either.

At 11/17/09 05:04 PM, AMTRAX91 wrote: My batting average on the flash portal comes up as N/A but on the audio portal comes up as 4.19. does either count or just the flash one

Silly goose.

Oooh, silly me, almost forgot.

RESIDENT EVIL COLLAB 2 PROGRESS:

Member/ BA estimate/ latest update on part(s)
Gustavos/ 3.75/ here
Prime45664/ 4.11/ his three parts can be viewed here
Bocodamondo/ 2.85/ Part #1 Part#2 Part #3
Helbereth/ 4.15/ Many Different Updates
NateofWar/ No submissions to Portal/ A cute update featuring Nemesis with a propeller hat
Dante224/ 4.20/ only a written script
Amtrax91/ something like 3.80/ rough draft
ChilliC/ no submission that he animated in/ a picture of one of his backgrounds
Ghor7/ 3.70/ rough draft
mydarksides/ 2.85/ no updates yet
DumbassDude/ 4.05/ no updates yet

IMPORTANT MESSAGE to all members of the RE Collab 2:

On 10:00 PM EST of November 20th, any more suggestions for menu and credits music in this collab will not be accepted. The voting for the two selected songs will begin at that time, and go on for 48 hours, if you're late for either of these deadlines...sorry.

If we find a song afterwards that's absolutely mind blowing that should be in this collab, it better as hell kick ass, or it won't be considered.

When I get home from school tomorrow, I'll be picking up Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles, and that will surely blow my mind pretty good. I cannot wait!

At 11/16/09 11:02 PM, Helbereth wrote:
I could just add a barricade behind myself...

Something like the steel barricades dropped on the beaches for the Normandy invasion.

That also sounds like good fun!

At 11/16/09 08:16 PM, Helbereth wrote:
The Beretta is about the only thing that I probably wouldn't have irl.

Ahh, the Beretta. A common handgun in the Resi games. Standard S.T.A.R.S. issue. 15 shots, using the ever so common 9 millimeter bullets. Each with enough delicious power to pierce a zombie's skull and perhaps even through the brain while it's at it.

Should it be animated at all?

No, thanks.