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At 6/10/08 06:47 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:

At 6/10/08 06:43 PM, GrammerNaziElite wrote: Now for every other country with a gun ban. If it's a systematic pattern, you should have no problem.

yeah thats a real counter argument

Britain is Britain, as I said before. If he wants to prove gun restrictions are harmful, then he's going to have to show charts for every country and prove that the gun ban caused an increase in shooting deaths. Remember- I'm talking about gun LIMITATIONS, not bans.

At 6/10/08 11:46 AM, Grammer wrote: I think a better way of starting the topic would be to ask if Israel and it's lobbying groups hold too much influence in Washington. If that is the question, then yes.

I feel like an idiot now. My perception of you has gone up dramatically.

I'm white as shit, you have no evidence to back up your claims Marquis, and lying to the public about the state of affairs in Iraq and then invading on false causes sounds like an illegal war to me. Also, I can't take you seriously if you don't read the article.

I'm sorry. I'd go further. Buttil you offer me a counter argument,I fell no need.

Now for every other country with a gun ban. If it's a systematic pattern, you should have no problem.

Links WolvenBear? Don't link to individual incidences, I'd like a chart.

At 6/10/08 09:46 AM, Me-Patch wrote:

At 6/9/08 08:06 PM, GrammerNaziElite wrote: They are the richest group of people in the world,

What gave you that idea? I thought Catholicism was the richest private organization in the world.

Not per person. Catholicism is only so rich because of it's huge popularity and the fact that it has been the dominant religion for 1000 years. Judaism has been popular for much shorter a time, is much richer per person, and gained all that very quickly.

Just finished watching, good episode.I liked the lumberjack bit.

You seem to be going off topic rather often, and my 'it works in real life AND in theory' approach to gun control is all the evidence anyone should need. Also, I don't care if you're a Mason or a weapons expert, it has nothing to do with politics.

The militia is in there somewhere, and if not, then I sincerely apologize for making a mistake and having false presumptions.

I am not and never will be a troll.

I am aware that government agents are human, but, as I said, as long as they do a GOOD JOB, I'd trust them to interfere with some parts of my life. I sure as hell would not trust the current government. Bill Clinton maybe.

With ocean exploration, maybe we can stop Cloverfield before it surfaces.

What's your point? Are you upset with Jews or Israel?

More Israel than Jews, I suppose, but there are Jews outside of Israel that hold the same unequal balance of power.

Also, I do have something to back up my original argument. in Europe and most of Asia, there are gun bans and limitations. There are less shooting deaths there. I don't need to argue about theories when a real-life example is a plane ride away. Communism works in theory, but we all know how that turned out. There are slightly different circumstances regarding the US, but they do not destroy the credibility that it works for the rest of the world. The same can go for limiting government size, the UN, and gay marriage.

I have not flamed you, Mason, but I am atheist not because I can disprove the existence of God, as I can not, but because I can say it is unlikely that there is one and I hate not choosing a side. By the same token, I can't PROVE you're not a Mason, but I can say that it is highly unlikely and therefor I will take the more likely side instead believing that you could be either one. there is a CHANCE that you are a Mason, but too small of one for me to call it credible.

"Well, you worked 24 years straight to get that house but it is too big in comparison to others so we have to take it away."
Yeah, that kinda logic does not make any sense. People who work for things should get priority over those who don't.

I do not advocate limiting Jewish power, as I have said before. It does however make sense to be wary of a small group of people that have gained an enormous amount of power in a short period of time.

Well, we really don't have a right now do we? I mean, just because people have worked hard and grown powerful does not mean that we should go against them. Really, most jewish organizations I know are not doing anything bad compared to other lobbyists out there.

Again, I have nothing against Jews, and I admire their dedication. However, as I said, they are a minority with a large amount of power. It is irrelevant how they obtained that power, they still have too much of it.

I am not basing anything on stereotypes, nor am I saying that we should limit the Jew's power.

I know Jews individually, and they are great, nice, tolerable, humble people. However, as a group, they are very wealthy and have an unbalanced hand in world politics. They have worked very hard for this spot, and I am not biased against them because they are Jewish, I am always skeptical of small groups of people with large amounts of power.

We have it good, but it's getting worse.

I like you.

A lot.

Regardless, any information you could offer could be easily found on the internet. I don't believe you for the same reason people don't refer to me as 'General Irish'. Because I'm not.

At 6/9/08 08:13 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: its bullshit and stop posting in Politics

Quit acting like an intolerable retard.

'Kay.

Here.

'Sup.

Also.

Oh, for the love of God.

Stem-cell research uses fetuses and embryos that would not have been fertilized ANYWAY, they don't power their research off of dead babies.

Furthermore, It has been proven that sentient thought in a fetus does not begin until past the time when it can be aborted.

Using abortion as birth control is wrong, but Earth is crowded enough as it is.

I'd like to do a bit of a survey here on who thinks Jews are too powerful.

They are the richest group of people in the world, we can't criticize them without being called a fascist, Israel is violating human rights treaties, abusing our support, and has a power base greatly disproportionate to it's size and population.

O hai.

While I admit that cutting and running is not the most honorable thing to do, it has been clearly shown that our involvement in Iraq cannot possibly make the country better when the civilians themselves dislike us. We approached Iraq with the wrong attitude.

So, wait. You argued morality...but are for leaving innocent civilians to defend themselves against the IRG, AQI and al Sadr militias with no assist from us? How the hell is that moral?

How was it moral to invade in the first place? It's obvious that we aren't making Iraq any better, all we did was take the one force that was keeping the religious extremists in line and hung him. Saddam was a bad guy, but at least he kept order.

Hardly. World War 2 was an extremely moral endevor. Whatever mistakes we have made in Iraq, toppling Saddam was an extremely moral endevour. Providing welfare to law breakers...not so much.

We have ALREADY toppled Saddam. There's no reason for us to stay.

When I make topics, I don't do so to debate with every person who disagrees, I just try to open a discussion. For some reason you always seem to assume that I have the time to argue over the internet with a person who's idea of debate is deniable plausibility and faith in the hype.

Furthermore, I'd like to point out, on a purely moral point of view, that whatever money we spend helping the lives of illegals would be otherwise used for the military. Funding wars is not a more noble purpose than helping those in need.

Talk to Smilez, your narrow-mindedness annoys me.

I can't imagine that a member of a super-secret group would post his status on Newgrounds.

There are quite a few facts in there, Wolven, please read the whole article.

I also doubt that you are in any position to deny other's credibility because they get annoyed, you can't seem to keep insults out of your posts, though you seem to be getting better at it.

Good thing America was founded on principles opposing Europe.

I like Europe better.