Bam.

PAX setop went.. OK. I ended up shelling out $80 for a sign to be printed at kinkos causer they didn't provide signs like they said they would. But oh man what a sign it is. 40''x20''. I may find a way to give it away in a contest after PAX. In an absolutely completely unrelated note, there is a paypal donate button on closuregame.com, maybe you could hit it?

Audio didn't work, so I have to bring my own speaker system. What a pain. Oh well this is what the setup day was for.

It's gonna be a photo finish getting the game ready in time. Starogre has all the art with him, he'll be here shortly and we can pop the art in the game when he gets here.

Saw dan paladin today setting up. I'm literally right across from them.

Aether and Closure are both in the Indiecade festival in LA this year.

I've known for like 4 months, they took forever to i dunno prepare a press release or whatever they needed to do, but we can finally announce that now.

Anyone in LA october 1-4 come by and see
http://www.indiecade.org/

and tomorrow is PAX, so come by and see closure there if you want too. The event is sold out so you're screwed if you dont have a ticket

my dad's a chiropractor, he constantly complains about my posture

At 9/2/09 06:05 PM, Jimp wrote: Any Mac users upgraded to Snow Leopard yet? Im debating whether its worth it. Loving the £25 upgrade price, fuck you Windows!

I will after november 1 (IGF submission deadline). I can't risk my game suddenly not working right now

At 9/2/09 03:47 PM, Zyphonee wrote: Dad's game was extremely generic and boring, not to even mention overrated...

I personally think Dad's Game would have been better with a more fancy pants vibe to it (larger world, faster movement), and a little less destruction honestly. There was too much going on at once. I'd press a button and see 10 things fall down in smoke and flames. Larger world + faster/smoother movement + spread out items (a little more spread out) could have kept the same feeling to the game.

At 9/2/09 04:26 AM, Twist-Chao06 wrote: Pax Roll Cal

Yes I made a typo and yes it didn't like PAX being all caps

PAX is 2 days away. I'm gonna be there. The behemoth is gonna be there. Are you?

Comcast Story

So I upped my cable yesterday when a comcast guy came around to "check up on us". $10/m extra and I get comedy central and adult swim, the only 2 channels I actually care about outside of basic.

So he comes in, hands me a box and a remote (i made sure I didnt have to pay "rent" on the box, it was the free one). I come to find out, it's an SD box. It won't output the HD channels I receive. So I unplug it, and plug the cable back to the tv directly. I get my HD channels (basically fox and NBC come in as HD, and a few others say HD but all that's noticeable is the audio difference). And I get the rest of the channels too. Just, they're like channel number 103-9 instead of 60 like it should be. Ah well, I searched and wrte down the interesting ones on a piece of paper. Beats paying $6/m for an HD set top box. Fuck that.

And then he asked to use my bathroom. And I thought of jmtb's story.

SHMUP

I'm gonna be in a great mood all day

At 8/31/09 03:18 PM, ImpotentBoy2 wrote: I'm gonna make a company called "THE" we will be involved in nearly everything from automotive manufacture to music to video games, my first course of action will be to sue nearly everyone in history. my second course of action will be to trademark the word "AND"

my company is gonna be called "TWO", a.k.a. "Tyler's Wonderful Organization"

At 8/31/09 03:06 PM, ImpotentBoy2 wrote:

At 8/31/09 02:55 PM, GustTheASGuy wrote: That's good. But it's possibly just a move to remove a legal vulnerability.

I'm sure he would have been removed anyways

he doesnt think so

http://www.igda.org/Forums/showthread.ph p?s=7ac1fd972a08fa16fa277f4c6ef0005c&thr eadid=36867

It's a move that means he'll stop having to answer questions.

http://www.igda.org/newsroom/Tim%20Resig ns.pdf

broke today

justice

this is a serious issue

i guess I couldn't trust you guys to act maturely

At 8/30/09 07:34 PM, ImpotentBoy2 wrote: this whole trademarking words thing is retarded. if its in the dictionary(or not vernacular) than you shouldn't be able to own it. in fact isn't that the purpose of a dictionary, so people everywhere can articulate ideas. I think i will read

apple, blizzard, windows, epic, etc

The problem is nobody knows who edge is, while people do know who those others are.

If you guys have a few hours, I invite you to read the entirety of these threads. They may be long, but it's really interesting, hilarious, frustrating, and downright crazy. And it's a good read too.

http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?to pic=6456.0

http://www.igda.org/Forums/showthread.ph p?s=0d3e7147796d23db7e89d00438102ef5&thr eadid=35923&perpage=15&highlight=&pagenu mber=1

I've been following this since it unfolded in May (I even bought edge to show my support for the week it was back up) and there's more drama in it than any TV show or movie... it's worth a read if you have the time.

SUMMARY:

Mobigame makes an award winning iphone game, "edge"

Tim Langdell, of his own company "edge games" owns the trademark on the word "edge", and threatens to sue mobigame if they don't change it and if they do change it they owe him money anyway. Tim behaves less than professionally, and does such stuff as trademarking the name "edgy", which mobigame suggested as an other name for their game.

Langdell is on the board of directors of the IGDA. He claims he spawned [list of titles and EDGE magazine]. Proven false, even he says that Future Publishing is not his partner in his open letter (in a footnote, as contrary to saying that future publishing is his partner in the threat to mobigame)

The coming months provide a lot of drama on the subject, with hundreds of independent parties digging up dirt on Tim Langdell such as they can't find any game he made after 1990, and they can't find for sale any ports of the games he made in the early 80s. They found a restraining order against him from some actress. Everyone he ever talked to is coming out of the dark and calling him a con man. Court cases are being found, in the public record, where the courts reprimand him for his actions. His office is a rent-a-mailbox.

Tim writes an 'open letter' twisting his story around the facts dug up, and allegedly fabricating emails to prove his innocence.

The IGDA is getting ready to vote on his removal. The board did nothing, until they were required to due to a membership petition. Tim is responding to claims by calling everyone a liar, and threatening libel and defamation suits against people who just so much as quote his own email correspondence.

Mobigame is not making any money right now due to EDGE being pulled from the app store until the dispute is over. Langdell is purposely delaying in an attempt to get Mobigame to buckle.

There's a LOT more to the story, and you should really read his responses on the IGDA forum (starting on page 65 or so). My favorite, tim claims he never demanded money from anyone. Someone posts a link to a public record court case where tim's demanding money. Tim's response, word for word, is "1. not true"

taken from
http://www.tigsource.com/pages/edge-game s

and

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/the-ed ge-of-reason

At 8/30/09 06:45 PM, Doomsday-One wrote: I once ended up with an extremely long (but not infinite) loop. It pretty much drained the computer's processing power; yet since it was doing stuff, it was never aborted. I spent an age trying to close it down.

I had a glitch in c++ that sent 27 MB of triangle data to the graphics card in one call. That's (12 bytes per triangle, 27x1024x1024 bytes of data, so 2.3 million triangles at once). My graphics card shut down. My display went out. Had to force a restart or risk my fans blowing out. This had to happen a few times before solving the problem.

At 8/30/09 06:45 PM, Doomsday-One wrote: Let's see how it turns out, eh? I hope MobiGame manage to keep the original name; it sounds much better.

Oh they will, the problem is langdell will delay it forever and we might not see the game for sale again for another 2 years, when its no longer relevant.

I hope they manage to resolve the issue and keep making games personally. These types of legal threats can ruin small developers, and indeed in the past tim has pushed small developers out of the industry completely, and they've come back to mention that.

At 8/30/09 05:06 PM, doctormario wrote:

I've been following this since it unfolded in May (I even bought edge to show my support for the week it was back up) and there's more drama in it than any TV show or movie... it's worth a read if you have the time.

Thank you for that. It was a good read. This situation is not unlike the tawdry world of royalty free photos. A few weeks ago, some old customers of ours received a very snippy 'cease and desist' note from the advocates of Getty images, claiming that certain pictures on their site were rights managed, and money was owed. Here's the rub. They weren't rights managed before Getty bought them. We used them from a royalty free disk (officially purchased and all). I reckon their case is all the way flimsy. Still, we'll put new pics in for our valued customers (from iStock) and tell Getty, "Fuck you very much". But the audacity of this giant, feckless corporate amoeba, trying to squeeze undeserved, retroactive cash out of honest people is sickening. Like the fucking Getty's need more cash. Please.

It's not quite on the same scale as the tim langdell v mobigame fiasco.

For those too lazy to read the thread (your loss) here's a summary:

Mobigame makes an award winning iphone game, "edge"

Tim Langdell, of his own company "edge games" owns the trademark on the word "edge", and threatens to sue mobigame if they don't change it and if they do change it they owe him money anyway. Tim behaves less than professionally, and does such stuff as trademarking the name "edgy", which mobigame suggested as an other name for their game.

Langdell is on the board of directors of the IGDA. He claims he spawned [list of titles and EDGE magazine]. Proven false, even he says that Future Publishing is not his partner in his open letter (in a footnote, as contrary to saying that future publishing is his partner in the threat to mobigame)

The coming months provide a lot of drama on the subject, with hundreds of independent parties digging up dirt on Tim Langdell such as they can't find any game he made after 1990, and they can't find for sale any ports of the games he made in the early 80s. They found a restraining order against him from some actress. Everyone he ever talked to is coming out of the dark and calling him a con man. Court cases are being found, in the public record, where the courts reprimand him for his actions. His office is a rent-a-mailbox.

Tim writes an 'open letter' twisting his story around the facts dug up, and allegedly fabricating emails to prove his innocence.

The IGDA is getting ready to vote on his removal. The board did nothing, until they were required to due to a membership petition. Tim is responding to claims by calling everyone a liar, and threatening libel and defamation suits against people who just so much as quote his own email correspondence.

Mobigame is not making any money right now due to EDGE being pulled from the app store until the dispute is over. Langdell is purposely delaying in an attempt to get Mobigame to buckle.

There's a LOT more to the story, and you should really read his responses on the IGDA forum (starting on page 65 or so). My favorite, tim claims he never demanded money from anyone. Someone posts a link to a public record court case where tim's demanding money. Tim's response, word for word, is "1. not true"

If you guys have a few hours, I invite you to read the entirety of these threads. They may be long, but it's really interesting, hilarious, frustrating, and downright crazy. And it's a good read too.

http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?to pic=6456.0

http://www.igda.org/Forums/showthread.ph p?s=0d3e7147796d23db7e89d00438102ef5&thr eadid=35923&perpage=15&highlight=&pagenu mber=1

I've been following this since it unfolded in May (I even bought edge to show my support for the week it was back up) and there's more drama in it than any TV show or movie... it's worth a read if you have the time.

well that's how it behaves, but integers and floating point numbers are represented in wildly different ways internally so it's not as simple as "erase the decimal", but I'm pretty sure its fast cause float to int is done in hardware not software

Unix is fantastic.

<3

At 8/29/09 05:14 PM, citricsquid wrote:

At 8/29/09 04:21 PM, Johnny wrote: /facepalm

My favourite programming fuck up is mixing up = and ==, has some funky results.

My least favorite programming error I've encountered, in c++, has to be when using the container class std::map. Iterators to it are supposed to remain valid if something else is deleted out of it, and indeed with GCC their implementation is correct. But, not with microsoft's compiler! So I can't pop through the map and delete unnecessary items, and all the segfaults and overwrites were crashing the game on windows. So I had to make a new map, copy the valid items over, delete the old map, and set the old map to a new map to delete a few items out of it conditionally. What a pain. Took forever to track down, took forever to fix.

Also recently I found out that when you open a file for loading, it defaults to text mode. Text mode converts some byte patterns to other things (line breaks are funky) depending on the OS, and naturally it loads stuff the right way otherwise. So my game had a few levels which it would just die trying to load on windows, so I had this huge workaround thing trying to figure out why my code wasn't working, and I got it to work 95% of the time, till i found the reason was just i needed to pop | std::ios::binary when opening a file. Then BAM all my problems for the last 2 months were solved.

You guys and your flash have it easy.

At 8/29/09 04:41 PM, Afro-Ninja wrote:

At 8/29/09 04:21 PM, Johnny wrote: Then, I remembered Math.round()...

ouch

don't forget about Math.ceil() and Math.floor() as well

or if you're using as3 or c++, int() (cast to integer, pretty fast operation, behaves similar to floor in the positive numbers, i think it does the same for negatives cant be sure though)

At 8/28/09 10:38 PM, TheCriminalDuder wrote: Give me a week.
Once their ready.

I shall devour all 33 five jars.

send me a jar

My position on the kennedys is the same I have will bill clinton, they were all great politicians and leaders and did amazing things for the country, but I wouldn't consider them moral role models. Still though, Ted was a huge factor in getting Obama the democratic party nomination, so you really can't discount how influential he is just because of the incident with the chick in the car and the bridge.

At 8/26/09 02:36 PM, Keith wrote:

At 8/26/09 02:17 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote:

At 8/26/09 06:55 AM, Paranoia wrote:

At 8/26/09 04:52 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: Ted Kennedy just died...

Who?

JFK's brother, senator from massachusetts for like 40 gazilion years in a row, hugely influential, still in office up the the day he died...

How many Kennedys are left and was he the first to go at an old age?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_fam ily

the kennedy family is crazily huge and complex

This is not the thread to hate. I don't mind a little joking around (it's harmless) but please don't hate. The man's dead, so have some damn respect.

At 8/26/09 06:55 AM, Paranoia wrote:

At 8/26/09 04:52 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: Ted Kennedy just died...

Who?

JFK's brother, senator from massachusetts for like 40 gazilion years in a row, hugely influential, still in office up the the day he died...