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That Illuminati pyramid symbol on the back of American dollar bills??? That's my first guess when taking that 'one-seeing-eye' into account... and the fact that this riddle supposedly has to do with politics.

I guess the organization that concieved it might symbolize a "non-traditional" movement that "lies deep within"... as in a secret movement that lies deep within American society, politics, etc. The secrecy behind that organization might correspond to "can only be viewed at certain times"... or the fact that you're usually not always looking at a dollar bill...

I guess the four-sided pyramid of that symbol could correspond to "four legs"???

Well... that's probably way off from the answer you have in mind... but I don't care... I love working on riddles.

At 7/28/03 08:32 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: I wonder if we could get Tom and/or Wade involved in this? It seems like a cause they'd be willing to pick up.

Seriously e-mail one of them. Seeing as how Tom posted that Sugar Industry article a long time ago on the front page, he might post this.

Ugh. Why did I have to be born in this day and age?

Advice to all of you: Don't ever have kids. The world only gets worse from here on in.

At 7/28/03 04:28 PM, Lyddiechu wrote:

You got it, slizor.. Once long ago I wanted to go work as a journalist because I thought I could change the world by making people see what really happened. Then I got in touch with real life and said fuck it, I am going to go work as a policymaker in the government instead because it is the only way other than being extremely rich and buying my way into politics that I can ever make a difference. I am so disgusted with the mass media most of the time. But then again I really really don't want to get my news from "independent" papers and magazines at either end of the spectrum, so I try and pick the most neutral sources I can find.. the BBC, the Economist, and NY Times. Ok ok many people would call those bastions of the far left, but come on people, what else are you gonna read??

I used to dwell alot on that question... but then I came to the realization that the only successful, mass produced news sources around these days are by necessity 90%+ lies. Why? Because the "truth" simply does not sell. I'll usually read whatever I see lying around... right-wing, left-wing, or whatever... but I take it ALL with a grain of salt.

In my opinion, having ideological bias in your choices of news media is nothing but choosing certain half-truths from a sea of half-truths....

Thoughts?

At 7/27/03 11:00 PM, Lyddiechu wrote: I think censorship is a load of crap, to put it eloquently. Warning labels are ok which say dont show this to your 5 year old son because it includes pornography, but editing commercials, films, etc just for the american sensibility is just paying ridiculous homage to america's puritan roots. Grow up already, jeez.. I want to see those hilarious ikea commercials on network tv. Besides how is it that ocuntries like norway and sweden get to see all this "naughty" material and they have way fewer problems with sex crimes in their countries? hm?

Ditto. (I'm too lazy to express it in my own words. So sue me ;) )

Probably one of the WORST cases of censorship I have heard of is where some public schools are not allowed to have reading materials that depict extensively the existence of dinosaurs. Proponents of the move claim that having children read extensively about dinosaurs might create future bias in their views on the Evolution vs. Creationism debate.

When I hear about stuff like that, I find myself strongly compelled to do the following:

Drink... Then drink some more.

At 7/27/03 06:05 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: I dont think its right to let gays in the army or amy where near sleeping with men that arent gay themselves because I just odnt think men are comfortable with gays i mean if they have to shower together thats just wrong, so i say good on you U.K we did something right for a change....

You're talking as if "they" don't have any self-restraint. You're talking as if "they" are just a bunch of horny animals ready to have their way at the first available opportunity. You're talking as if the "men" you don't think are not "comfortable" with "them" could never learn to adjust and become more tolerant.

Would you also advocate a law that says men and women shouldn't work together in the same occupation for fear that they'll succumb to temptation?

At 7/24/03 06:34 AM, -PZY- wrote: ...

I'll just say those were some good points/ counterpoints from you. I enjoyed debating with you. I guess the issue is really just a matter of personal opinion. In this case there are no right or wrong answers.

And I hate it when ppl talk about my age, like "you will understand later BLAHBLAHBLAH!!!"
Please just call me a moron, OK? Then I don't get a pat on my shoulder, but the truth. Thank you.

-Cheeeres!

Well... sorry about the age thing. You're not a moron.

At 7/23/03 07:04 AM, D2KVirus wrote: Considering that record companies managed to strike a deal that means they get a cut of all blank audio tapes sold, just to keep them wallowing in money which they always invest wisely, it's clear the real issue they have with MP3s is that there isn't any way they can wrange a penny from computer soft or hardware, hence they get their knickers in a twist over it.

And there was I thinking it was about integrity and so forth...

Have you guys heard about the industry's plan to unleash computer viruses intended to infect the computers of music "pirates?" Here's a link in case you're interested:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2003-05-05-our-view_x.htm

Do you think it's a real or empty threat? I'm thinking the latter seeing as how unleashing malicious code also happens to be against the law...

At 7/21/03 10:07 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: Forgive me for being blind, Ted, but I don't see an extenuating circumstance for rape. A rape is a rape, not as if it's done by accident or the man accidentally falls on top of the woman and decides to have his way with her. Rape is filed as a violent crime, not a crime of passion. It's pre-meditated. Thirty years for the first offense, life for the second.

I somewhat agree with you.

I guess the general extent of physical trauma could be one determining factor... since a greater punishment could be inflicted upon someone who gives their victim an STD... or makes them pregnant and forces them to deal with the question of whether they should have an abortion...

As for mental trauma: If the victim is raped repeatedly (either by the same person or by others), held captive for an extended period of time (weeks, months)...

At 7/22/03 09:19 AM, Ted_Easton wrote: Well, they both could have agreed to rape each other. Didn't think I'd know that, did ya, Judge? ...

Wouldn't that just work out to consentual intercourse?

At 7/22/03 01:04 PM, -PZY- wrote:

At 7/22/03 10:09 AM, bumcheekycity wrote: I think they should be made to sort out their affairs, but then they should be able to end their life is they still wish to do so.

They should not get any help, but you can't stop them from taking suicide because that is i[m]possible.

You just helped clarify my own point. What's the point of witholding help if they're going to to do it anyway and it's ultimately "impossible" to stop someone who's determined enough from doing it anyways?

If someone... anyone... regardless of mental of physical state... wants to die, it should be so that they can do it as quietly, cleanly, and painlessly as possible. I for one could care less about clinics offering to kill you for a nominal fee... or better yet, suicide booths on city streets.

Now, I may seem very cold and heartless to you but... when you get to be a little older... you'll understand what I'm saying... and why I would say it.

Cheers.

At 7/21/03 07:43 PM, -PZY- wrote: ...I really don't know what prejury means, as my english sucks.

It's when you lie under oath in a court of law.

I guess mine are more or less the same as Ted's. Except, in cases where a fine can't be paid: hard labour. Oh, and nothing for Cannabis drugs as I don't think they're worth the law enforcement resources.

Except, you know what a *really* good punishment for especially heinous crimes against specific victims would be? Through some invention of virutal reality, make them re-live the crime through the victim's eyes/mind.

At 7/21/03 05:58 PM, -PZY- wrote:

At 7/21/03 05:52 PM, FreidanX wrote: I agree. I think everyone should have the right to end their own lives, no matter his or her mental or physical state.

What if you have childern that is dependant of you and the loss of their father/mother would lead to severe mental problems and traumas?
You can't run away from such a commitment as childern.

Some parents will do it anyways. What difference does it make whether it happens in a hospital or in their own bathtub?

Who are we to deny someone the right to kill themselves simply because they cannot do it themselves?

I agree. I think everyone should have the right to end their own lives, no matter his or her mental or physical state.

At 7/21/03 08:04 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: I know I'm going to get cursed at by...oh, everyone, but I just don't like Kevin Smith movies. I find them dry and unfunny...just...not my taste at all. I fail to see the genius in Clerks or any of the things he's been in.

Even Dogma? What didn't you like about that one? The gutter humour? His views on religion? Alanis Morissette?

Even if shit-demons and sexist jokes aren't your thing, there's still plenty of genuine social critique...

At 7/21/03 01:04 AM, BWS wrote: Taxi Driver is a great movie too. Its an older one, late 70's early 80's, but its worth watching. If youve taken some existential philosophy classes you would really get into it a lot deeper; just watch the damn movie anyways!:)

Hmmm... don't think I've seen that one... but a great (and misunderstood) movie I've seen that adresses the field of existential philosophy (and so many other things) is _Breakfast of Champions_, based on the Kurt Vonnegut novel of the same name. It's basically a post-modern view of western society and it's many, many, *MANY* problems. I recommend reading the book before seeing the movie; I've never seen a single movie that does any justice to the book it's based on.

At 7/20/03 06:43 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 7/20/03 05:15 PM, TheShrike wrote: Did anyone ever see Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey?

Yup, and of course I've seen Clerks FUNK...Clerks is fuckin hysterical, and having worked in a convenience store...ugh.

Clerks is the only Kevin Smith movie I have yet to see. Is it really that good? Better than Dogma?

You could entertain people by catching bullets fired at you with your teeth...

At 7/19/03 01:18 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 7/19/03 07:23 AM, poxpower wrote:

Post... aren't those cereals? Like, POst Honeycombs or something?

Yeah they are...pretty good cereals too.

Speaking of special ladies...hoping to hang out with a special girl of mine next sunday...right now I gotta go through what I call "weekend withdrawal" since she's never around on the weekend's...so hopefully that works out for me...we're not "together" in fact...it's complicated...none of you would get it if I explained it so =P

I'm interested. Can you please share? Pretty please?
It would be nice to take a break from hearing about goats...

At 7/19/03 12:45 AM, evilHamburgerMan wrote:

At 7/18/03 10:33 PM, FreidanX wrote: If you're really planning on shutting down the BBS, can't you just get rid of the General Forum and keep the other ones where fewer rejects hang out and people get along better (i.e. Politics Forum)?

I'm sure that if you just stick to forums limited to certain topics you'll have a *MUCH* easier time moderating the BBS.

But what about the theory of gravity? Currently the mass of the general forum protects the other forums to an extent.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking as I typed my idea. Except maybe when the people who post topics like "OGM MY COK IS HRD" see that there is no longer any forum that allows people to post anything they feel like, they won't post it. Now, I *know* that's a far-fetched assumption, but the spammers/attention-whores situation will not get any better when you have a board that technically allows people to post "... or whatever!" ...

If you're really planning on shutting down the BBS, can't you just get rid of the General Forum and keep the other ones where fewer rejects hang out and people get along better (i.e. Politics Forum)?

I'm sure that if you just stick to forums limited to certain topics you'll have a *MUCH* easier time moderating the BBS.

At 7/17/03 02:44 AM, TheShrike wrote: Heheheheh... My new baseball bat came in! Hee-hee!

God? Armageddon?
Puh-leeeze.
I've got a shiny new bat!

I liked it better when he was holding the cola. Now he just looks like he wants to beat me to death.

At 7/16/03 07:26 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 7/16/03 04:50 PM, BaKsHi wrote:

Are you talking about the armageddon, cus we've been waiting.

Yeah...I tried leaving a message with God about that the other week...he never got back to me...I think we're not speaking again...you break one little commandment...

When he starts returning your calls again he'll probably just lie and tell you it will come in the year 3000. Then you will become a prophet and carry on the tradition of all organized religions:

Being completely wrong in predicting when the world will actully end.

He'll probably get out in 8-10 months for good behavior.

Then they'll relocate him to a halfway house. Likely one that's beside a pre-school and a playground.

Awww justice ^_^

At 7/16/03 10:10 AM, nitroxide wrote:

At 7/15/03 11:34 PM, TheShrike wrote: Well, she wouldn't be pissed because it's real. It isn't. It's all airbrushed.
This is the original.

Ahh...the powers of photshop....You malicious marsupial you....

Gah! Platypuses are not marsupials, they're monotremes. Seeing as how they're such egg-laying, duck-billed, hair-covered abominations, they've been assigned their mammal order.

Oh, and I'm sure you people care sooooooooo much!

If site administrators were to shut down this now sucky BBS, who would actually give two shits?

(Pun not intended)

At 7/15/03 03:48 PM, nitroxide wrote: Hey shrike if your looking for a good time i know this hot platy-pussy....

She told me to show you her pic see if your interested...lol.

Now shrike dont get all hot...control yourself...

HAHAHA. Sorry, but I'm pretty sure that monotremes don't have nipples.

Here's a suggestion:

I think this General board should be scrapped all together. Or even just cut down its volume. It's become bloated, boring, useless and a waste of site resources. Apparently, when some people read the "... or whatever" part of the General board description, it translated in the minds to "... be an attention whore and spam to your heart's content."

(BTW, that wasn't targeted at this thread, just topics such as "i'm not a n00b!" or "i h8 u all" that make me question why the NG mods haven't already gone insane and thrown themselves off a tall building already.)

I don't know about you guys, but I'd be more than willing to give it up if it meant an increase in overall site performance...

Hey Ted, you're a mod so I'll ask you:

Are there any plans whatsoever to increase the functionality of the BBS? I think we could use some EDIT and DELETE buttons for our posts. Now I know such features wouldn't likely be used by people who's entire posts consist of something like "OGM BSUH!"- but I think they would be really useful for those of us who want to correct stupid mistakes or delete posts and threads that we later decide were dumb.