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At 2/14/11 08:02 AM, SteveGuzzi wrote:

At 2/14/11 07:50 AM, ForTheQueen wrote: No, not uninformed. I'm serious at first it seemed like rap had a message, but then you see the rappers in their videos with "Hoochi mamas" doing their pathetic little dance...

okay -- not necessarily uninformed... just prone to over-generalization?

i don't understand why it takes constantly reminding people that what they hear or see in mainstream media does not represent the whole (or even the majority) of what's out there. it's like... you're trying to make an intelligent argument, right? so, why are you purposely ignoring such obvious diversity? it's either because you already know your argument is flawed, OR, because you're actually unaware of how much diversity there really is, and are thus uninformed. or at most, not-informed-very-well.

This is the flaw in your argument... people say that if you make a generalized comment about... ANYONE, you are steriotyping. But if only 1 out of a million do something, how is that a steriotype?
Likewise, what's more prevalent out there, the rappers who have a message who just stay off to the sides, or the ones that wear 80s sunglasses, enough gold chains to sink the Victory, do stupid dances, and obsurd music videos that have absolutely nothing to do with what they are singing about? The answer is the latter.

At 2/14/11 07:45 AM, SteveGuzzi wrote:

At 2/14/11 07:18 AM, ForTheQueen wrote: E) Then why are you still posting??

for you to take notes on; the exam is next Thursday.

Lining yourself up for a teacher's evaluation I think.

At 2/14/11 07:29 AM, UCanCallMeJesus wrote: I'm not a fan of either of them. I do think music is extremely important to us though. I know personally music has helped me get through some really tough times. If someone where to come and take the music I like out of my life i would probably do something chaotic

At 2/14/11 07:27 AM, ForTheQueen wrote: Look I'm sorry, but Rap to me is clicks, whistles, melodies, and lyrics stolen from other songs, hacked to death, and repeated a million and one times as fillers. along with a huge slew of LaLas, NaNas, and Hey heys. Plus the music is always about the same thing...

if you really believe any of what you've wrote, you're either a) plain ignorant, or b) satisfied with skimming the surface and leaving the rest to uninformed assumptions.

No, not uninformed. I'm serious at first it seemed like rap had a message, but then you see the rappers in their videos with "Hoochi mamas" doing their pathetic little dance, and just looking like someone who would be stabbed after spending two seconds on the street.
These people should be frying chips for me at the local restaraunt.

At 2/14/11 07:15 AM, UCanCallMeJesus wrote:

At 2/14/11 06:53 AM, ForTheQueen wrote:

At 2/14/11 06:41 AM, UCanCallMeJesus wrote: Its not my thing, but I know people that like rap. Who cares? No one forces you to listen to it. They can say, or listen to whatever they want. Would you prefer that we all just lose are taste in music, and let someone dictate what we listen to?

Yes I would. I would like to dictate what you listen to. No more rap, no more R&B! Thank God!

Your a inconsiderate idiot. You answer none of the other questions presented in that post; on top of that you chop off part of the post to make it seem like that was the last thing I said. It's a good thing that you are a useless leech that doesn't make any rules, or contribute to the world in anyway. We use music for expression. If you take that away from people you end up with a lot more confused, emotionally impaired people. If people can't express there feelings through there art they find a different way to express it. The different way of expression is normally a lot more violent, and endangering then music with a few vulgar words.Thats why we value freedom of speech, and freedom of press so much in The United States. If you where somehow able to successfully remove all rap, and R&B from the world it would be a world with a lot more chaos then the one we live in today.

Hey I've been pretty civil in my comments, there is no reason to resort to childish insults.

BTW it's "You're" not Your.

And I'm not saying that's all you said, it's simply the only part I find relevant or humerous in any way. So I commented on that part as a bit of comic relief.

The different way of expression is normally a lot more violent, and endangering then music with a few vulgar words.

What different way of expression are you referring to? I don't understand this...
Look I'm sorry, but Rap to me is clicks, whistles, melodies, and lyrics stolen from other songs, hacked to death, and repeated a million and one times as fillers. along with a huge slew of LaLas, NaNas, and Hey heys. Plus the music is always about the same thing... Wah wah wah my parent's beat me. Wah Wah wah it's societies fault I comitted a crime and went to jail. Wah wah wah kill white. Wah wah wah I'm a gansta maaaan.

At 2/14/11 07:16 AM, SteveGuzzi wrote::

Hey I'm just getting started here! I'll rag on them when I get the chance. Give me some time!

a) you're slackin

b) it's been done

c) it can never be done too much!

d) things done without talent are better left not done at all

E) Then why are you still posting??

At 2/14/11 07:12 AM, SteveGuzzi wrote:

At 2/14/11 07:10 AM, ForTheQueen wrote: Hey I'm just getting started here! I'll rag on them when I get the chance. Give me some time!

a) you're slackin

b) it's been done

c) it can never be done too much!

At 2/14/11 07:01 AM, SteveGuzzi wrote:

At 2/14/11 05:56 AM, ForTheQueen wrote:

, if you want to rag on the content or subject matter of most mainstream rap -- fine, it's deserved -- but ragging on how people pronounce their words is just dumb. you might as well complain about all of Jamaica having an English patois, or all of Haiti having a French patois, or how people in New York don't sound like people from Georgia or how neither of them sound like people from Liverpool or Manchester, etc etc etc. it's just a dumb thing to complain about it is all.

Hey I'm just getting started here! I'll rag on them when I get the chance. Give me some time!

At 2/14/11 06:41 AM, UCanCallMeJesus wrote: Its not my thing, but I know people that like rap. Who cares? No one forces you to listen to it. They can say, or listen to whatever they want. Would you prefer that we all just lose are taste in music, and let someone dictate what we listen to?

Yes I would. I would like to dictate what you listen to. No more rap, no more R&B! Thank God!

At 2/14/11 06:20 AM, Rummy0 wrote: It's Dog not DAWG

I know right!?

Listening to rappers is making me sick... I've never seen such a hack job of the English language.

Gansta... it's pronounced ganster! If you can't even pronounce what you are, shut up.

I hear my n*ggas... ok first of all it's African Brothers. The correct N word is a racist slurr, shut up!

Damn Crackas (interesting isnt it how NG allows this, but not the N word.) Racist against white people.

Pawdy... it's pronounced PARTY "Par tee" not "Paw dee"

Smack dem hos... ok first of all it's THEM not DEM. Finally ho? Seriously?

give me her number, I'll find out for ya.

At 2/11/11 07:25 PM, All-American-Badass wrote:

At 2/11/11 07:13 PM, FurryDemon wrote: France has more educated people than the US though.

PEOPLE WHO ARE STUPID MUST DIE

educated or not, they're still a bunch of snobby surrender monkeys

Smart enough to know how to screw up Europe, and complain about everything and everyone who tries to fix it.

At 2/11/11 05:36 PM, ARGNAGRAM wrote:

At 2/11/11 05:33 PM, ForTheQueen wrote:

At 2/11/11 05:03 PM, Gasthecar wrote:

At 2/11/11 05:01 PM, ForTheQueen wrote:

At 2/10/11 02:23 PM, Gasthecar wrote: Hmmmmmmm

You a very bad man!

Oh come on you never suspected it

Alright, I'll give you that.

I've got a strange feeling that this guy is talking to himself.

Oh ok you caught me, I'm Gasthecar's alt. I made this account in order to avoid bans and restrictions.

At 2/11/11 05:03 PM, Gasthecar wrote:

At 2/11/11 05:01 PM, ForTheQueen wrote:

At 2/10/11 02:23 PM, Gasthecar wrote: Hmmmmmmm

You a very bad man!

Oh come on you never suspected it

Alright, I'll give you that.

At 2/10/11 02:23 PM, Gasthecar wrote: Hmmmmmmm

You a very bad man!

At 2/11/11 04:54 PM, SneakyGameBoy wrote:

At 2/11/11 04:21 PM, Quicksmasher wrote: But common people like the new style of Music Videos.

This.

Too true, the commoners are ruining everything for us!

Music videos from what I've seen have gone really far down hill in the last 23 years or so. Look back at videos for Journey, Metallica, Foreigner, Guns and Roses, The Cure, John Parr, and other greats from that Era. Their videos had substance coriography, even some had a small story line in the background. This went on (a little) into the 90s. But midway through... something went horribly wrong.

Todays music video features someone who should be serving me chips and a sandwich at your local fast food restaraunt doing their little gangsta dance with a bunch of trampy bimbos sporting revealing clothing and boob and ass jobs. What the hell happened?

At 2/10/11 10:20 AM, SuspiciousPenguin wrote: I'm a pompus snob and dislike the working class.

Welcome aboard!

At 2/10/11 10:04 AM, Gagsy wrote: The Victoria Cross is the highest honour for Canadians too.

I also fail to get why you're slagging off the Canadians. They were fighting since the beginning, unlike the Americans who insisted on fighting once they got attacked. But who cares anyway? All done many years ago.

STILL waiting for the list! Jeez, talk about avoidance!!!

At 2/10/11 09:34 AM, Gagsy wrote:

At 2/10/11 09:32 AM, SkeletonGimp wrote:

Ah. Oh well.

Still a lot of Canadians did their part for both wars and should be respected for that.

Besides, these were wars, not fucking competitions on 'Which nations did or didn't do the most'.

Still waiting, VC in the UK, MoH in America, Righteous Amongst Nations for Germans, and... what? You still have yet to name 5 people who have earned... what's the award there? Medal of Least Indifference? Medal of Guy who ran away the fastest... oh no, sorry, that one is France's.

At 2/10/11 08:55 AM, Gagsy wrote: You're a bad ambassador of the British nation if you can't recognise just how much Canadians actually helped during WW2, and they certainly helped out out nation, being one of our best allies. A hospital near me even dedicated it's main wing to them in their honour.

Still waiting for the 5...

At 2/8/11 05:26 PM, suprememessage wrote: Atleast your smarter than some, but you sir are still a troll, and attention whore, and a lier, and a faggot.
That leaves nothing reedeming about you. My natural ability to get people talking about something random is my redemption, please name one reason you dont suck at everything

Who, little ol' me??

At 2/8/11 07:03 PM, triplenoob wrote: Most war heroes are Canadians, just saying.

Really? Name 5. (just ww2)
UK.
Arthur Louis Aaron
Michael Allmand
Eric Anderson (VC)
John Thompson McKellar Anderson
Richard Annand
Cyril Joe Barton
John Baskeyfield
Sidney Bates
Stephen Halden Beattie
John Beeley
Frank Gerald Blaker
John Brunt
Richard Henry Burton
Robert Henry Cain
George Albert Cairns
Donald Cameron (VC)
John Charles Campbell
Kenneth Campbell
Lorne MacLaine Campbell
Edward Thomas Chapman
Edward Colquhoun Charlton
Leonard Cheshire
Wilwood Alexander Sandys Clarke
John Cruickshank
Arthur Edward Cumming
William Sidney, 1st Viscount De L'Isle
Dennis Donnini
Thomas Frank Durrant
George Harold Eardley
Eugene Esmonde
Edward Stephen Fogarty Fegen
Henry Robert Bowreman Foote
Ian Edward Fraser
Christopher Furness (VC)
Philip John Gardner
Guy Gibson
Thomas William Gould
Thomas Gray (VC)
John Hollington Grayburn
George Gristock
George Ward Gunn
John Hannah (VC)
Henry Eric Harden
John Pennington Harman
John William Harper
Stanley Hollis
Alec George Horwood
Thomas Peck Hunter
Norman Cyril Jackson
David Auldjo Jamieson
Francis Arthur Jefferson
John Patrick Kenneally
Geoffrey Charles Tasker Keyes
George Arthur Knowland
Anders Lassen
Herbert Wallace Le Patourel
Roderick Alastair Brook Learoyd
Ian Oswald Liddell
John Wallace Linton
Charles Lyell, 2nd Baron Lyell
James Joseph Magennis
Hugh Gordon Malcolm
Leslie Thomas Manser
Jack Foreman Mantle
Anthony Miers
George Allan Mitchell
Augustus Charles Newman
Harry Nicholls
Eric James Brindley Nicolson
Robert Anthony Maurice Palmer
Basil Charles Godfrey Place
Patrick Anthony Porteous
Lionel Queripel
John Neil Randle
Claud Raymond
William Reid (VC)
Peter Scawen Watkinson Roberts
Maurice Albert Windham Rogers
Gerard Broadmead Roope
Robert Ryder
William Alfred Savage
Arthur Stewart King Scarf
Derek Anthony Seagrim
Alfred Edward Sephton
Robert St Vincent Sherbrooke
Richard Been Stannard
James Stokes
George Thompson (VC)
Hanson Victor Turner
Victor Buller Turner
Richard Wakeford
Adam Herbert Wakenshaw
Malcolm David Wanklyn
Bernard Warburton-Lee
Tasker Watkins
William Basil Weston
Thomas Wilkinson (Royal Naval Reserve officer)
Eric Charles Twelves Wilson
Peter Harold Wright

USA.
MABRY, GEORGE L., JR.
MacARTHUR, DOUGLAS
MacGlLLlVARY, CHARLES A.
MAGRATH, JOHN D.
MANN, JOE E.
MARTIN, HARRY LINN
MARTINEZ, JOE P .
MASON, LEONARD FOSTER
MATHIES, ARCHIBALD
MATHIS, JACK W
MAXWELL, ROBERT D.
MAY, MARTIN O.
Spruance, Raymond
and thats just off the top of my head for the US

Germany: Yeah EVEN GERMANY had honorable mentions during WW2, people who fought for the right reasons...

Plague, Karl
Battel, Albet
Schröder, Gustav
Hosenfeld, Wilm
Schmid, Anton
Schmidthuber, August

In 2001, the US declared war to Iraq not only because of 9/11 but mostly for fossile energy, stupid America declaring war to a country while the only responsible was an organisation know as : Al-Qaeda. Duh big deal. And I've never heard a single american complain about Britain but mostly about Canada, hell, the US have always hated Canada for some shit that happened some 300+ years ago.

And you criticize me for not reading history? The United States invaded AFGANISTAN due to 9/11. They've said several times over their invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. I've heard more anti - American sentiment come from Canadians then the other way around.

Here, here here, and the list goes on.

At 2/8/11 12:43 PM, agustana wrote: It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.

Ah the song of the truly despirate.

At 2/8/11 12:43 PM, FC-Thun-Fan wrote: Well, actually I was 9 years old on 9/11 and I'm pretty sure I wasn't demanding any intervention by the US at that age or earlier.

You were, but I saw groups all over the US and it's allies on the news screaming to drop the Nuke.

Afghani history has been absolutely dominated by violence since 1979

Actually, long before that, we invaded long before the Soviets did.

when the Soviet Union intervened to install a new government. First there was the war of the mujahideen against the Soviet Union which drove the Afghani youth into refugee camps on the afghani-pakistani border.

Aren't you forgetting the Northern Alliance, backed by the Soviets and lead by General Rasheed Dostum and two others? In the North, the Soviets modernized Afganistan, gave them weapons to protect their land, taught women to read, etc. Things weren't like they were in the Rambo movies until the Allies intervened and started funding the people we now call terrorists to go into Afganistan to beat back the Soviets. These people were driven out of Afganistan in to places like Turkey and such, and then were allies of the US during the second invasion.

When the Taliban were in power the USA realised that they could not bring the desired stability to Afghanistan. Soon 9/11 came along and the US decided to invade Afghanistan to build a new nation.

Seriously, what do you expect to come out of a country with this kind of recent history? This history of violence has bred violence in Afghanistan. And the kind of war the US is waging on Afghanistan will only breed more violence. An invasion of Afghanistan or any other country to fight terrorism is completely ridiculous. It's like trying to fight the concept of resistance, completely impossible. I'd say that the only good thing that has come out of this war, is that the Taliban government has been overthrown, however, there have been many atrocities committed to achieve this and as I have said before, it has caused a massive humanitarian crisis in Afghanistan. Basically the USA helped install the Taliban government and has now overthrown it.

Fair enough. Look, I'm not saying that things weren't done poorly. The United States handled the first Afgan war poorly, WE are not doing much better with the second one. America Also royally screwed up Vietnam, which could have been avoided had they left France to deal with Vietnam or opened negotiations with Ho Chi Mihn when he came to you in the first place.

That said, if it wasn't for the US, Britain would have been overrun long before the Russians would have had a chance to regroup back during WW2, and while I don't agree we'd be speaking German if not for the US, we might be speaking Russian. The Soviets never had a good history of giving back what they've taken, and WW2 might still be going on today as we try to then kick them out.

The point I'm trying to make is you have people in my country, france, and Canada who do nothing but sit back, make jokes, whine and complain when the people in the US are for the most part good, well-meaning people who are doing the best they can to restore peace. All of us have a lot of blood on our hands, and none have the right to criticise another because we suddenly get a sense of righteousness.

At 2/8/11 12:11 PM, Ragnarokia wrote: I say Jefrey these common folks are much entertaining.
I agree Philip, they amuse me greater than auntie Elizabeth in her nightgown.
Spiffing relation there Philip.

They are quite amusing aren't they? Every zoo should have a pair.

At 2/8/11 11:47 AM, Breaktroll wrote:

At 2/8/11 07:41 AM, razorbladesigh wrote:

At 2/8/11 07:38 AM, RubberTrucky wrote: By George, this is dreadful indeed.

God save the queen pip pip wot cheerio tea time with scones cameras student riots I say rather dreadful.

What else do people from England say?

Hairs on a bobbin...

Nevermind the Bullocks!

At 2/8/11 11:40 AM, Gasthecar wrote: I think we all know who the problem is

Of course Hoffman...

Is he French or Canadian? Or French Canadian? No? Then he's not the problem?

At 2/8/11 10:04 AM, ChainsawNinjaZX wrote: Actually, the British caused pre-world war 1 problems and Germany caused everything after that until the British drew the land plans for the middle east, which promptly made them douche bags again.

Um, FRANCE Caused WW2. Treaty of Versailles? Remember?

They couldn't even keep control of their own territory after the war and got kicked out of Vietnam.

You're the queen, riiight, ok.