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:"I am not in the least bit afraid to die"

They do not necessasrily imply that he was afraid to die. I'm not afraid of dying (two years after, I still believe the same) and I said those words assuming that they will be the last things I will say. And I don't believe in an after life. And when I'm on my death bed again, I will most likely say the same thing and still believe in nothing. I'm not afraid to die and not go to heaven, or hell, or anything.

That's not necessarily true, it's possible for religion to embrace science, although I don't think science will ever embrace religion.

Twiddle dee, twiddle dumb... Science doesn't care about religion, it does not actively try to dispel beliefs or traditions. It doesn't try to prove heaven, god, etc,. or disprove. It tries find evidence or logical reasoning to certain phenomenoms. I will say it again, you cannot mix the two things easily for the reason that one of the two uses evidence and logic to explain certain things, and the other trying to give meaning and purpose coexisting with those certain things.

Religion isn't a bad thing at all. Dogma is, and that is the main friction between science and religion.

Now Joeseph Campbell, who was famous for Power of Myth, but has done much more works of art brushes up on this in the very first chapter in "Myths to Live By". And before I go on, I don't want you to feel upset if I say Jesus, Mary, or the Saints are myths. Myths does not mean lies. Myth is not a un-truth, and is just a word to emcompass what is unknown to humanity. Joe Campbell said that dogma, in uncertain terms, was the thing that prevented people from progressing. Now this man was a very spiritual person, although he clearly expelled his Roman Catholic religion as I have. I am a spiritual person despite the fact of the science around me, but for other people this isn't possible, or they try to mix and force each other into something very ill. To me, it seems you are trying to do this, to force each thing to that will fit in your scheme. I urge you, don't do it. I have done it before, back then when I was very young like age 7. I tried to make science fit into my religous scheme but until age 15, I fully realized that this will never happen with any harmony. And so I treated the two as two distinct things. When I accepted that what I was trying to do was to protect the dogma, all I gained was spirituality that the Bible may grant to people but without dogma.

There is a very good chapter in Myths to Live, the very first chapter: The Impact of Science on Myth. You may have encountered some of Joeseph Campbell already if you ever watch PBS. But this book is very worth while to read. Very insightful and very beautiful.

At 4/17/04 01:28 PM, The_King_of_Wolves wrote:

At 4/17/04 09:38 AM, Dr_Arbitrary wrote: Man qua animal is when a man uses qualities associated with animals to survive, these qualities are behaviors like stealing, and murdering.

Then how come in the gypsy culture it is if not acceptable to steal, it is encouraged? wouldn't stealing to them be good?

Very true. There are no correct answers to this concept, I'm sorry to say.

Examples: US, 'Anexation' of Texas. Mexico, 'Theft' of Texas.

And there are shades of grey. Is doing bad for good still bad? Let me give you my Robin Hood example, taking from the rich and giving it to the poor. Killing killers is a bad or good thing? And let's think vise versa, doing bad for the good, such as gay bashing for the salvation of the soul (yeah right!).

Nope, there ain't correct answers to these types of concepts.

At 4/16/04 10:20 PM, GreenSkvnk wrote:

At 4/15/04 07:20 PM, da_pope wrote: I say give the stupid homos there rights...

Stupid?

They have rights, we all have them. However, GLTB people need protection of them

It is certainly not stupid to me, but as long we homos can get our rights, It's all sticks and stones...

At 4/17/04 03:42 AM, stafffighter wrote: Evil is those who would victemize others. Good is those who would stop them. Simple enough concept.

I remember a saying to Joeseph Campbel from "Power of Myth" a very famous interview that is always running on PBS. "To God, everything is good, but to people, somethings are good, and some things are bad." It is more or less the way I have typed it.

These concepts are not close case. Good and bad is objective. Think about the people whom supported Hitler. They thought they were doing something good and patriotic. And all of the sudden.

Every part of the world, these concepts will vary. A woman in blue jeans, Lord forbid in a 3rd world country. Legal Gay marriage in America, oh dear lord! A man eating pork and cat fish? Mercy! Think about the men whom strap on bombs and kill civilians in the middle east? Good thing to them.

Good and bad is objective. And perhaps the only thing which humanity does agree more or less as something bad is incest. There are exceptions such as the Egyption dynasties... As a whole, most cultures believe it is a bad thing. Other wise, what is murder for one is justice to another. What is wonderful to another will not always be not as wonderful to the next person. What is taboo here isn't over there.

It would be simple to view good and evil very black and white. But it isn't simple as that.

At 4/15/04 01:42 PM, PlugDude wrote: actually, there is no proof that evolution is true, hence why it is called a "theory" (Darwin himself said on his deathbed that it was all wrong. Secondly, there is alot of proof that backs up the bible.

I'm sorry to correct you, but Darwin never stated such a thing on his death bed. It was a rumor. The woman who supposedly saw Darwin die and heard his last words was never there and was dispelled from a relative (I think it was Darwin's daughter).

You cannot provide proof to the bible. The original, the Jewish Torrah, and the Christians Old Testament, quite varies. Just imagine... from original text to greek, from greek to latin, from latin to a bunch of whole different types vernacular bible translations.

Bible and science will never truly mix. Bible good thing... but the Dogma that comes with it, just plain terrible.

Now this was a very intresting film that I got to saw last Friday but haven't thought about it until right now.

It was 1 or 2 o'clock and me and my friends were drunk. One of the craziest nights of our lives. We get to my friends home, and we all knew we won't go to sleep any time soon. My friend, who had Do the Right Thing on tape, put it in the VCR. I thought this was one of the greatest film I have ever seen, the others being El Crimen de Padre Amaro, American Beauty, Fight Club, and a few other that I won't bother people about.

I just loved how he juxtaposed so many things: Korean immigrant vs. black African immigrant vs. Italian pizza man. The blacks hate the Koreans, The Koreans hated the Jews, the Jews hated the Blacks, the Blacks hated the Italians, the Italians hated the Blacks, etc... Since I was drunk and tired, I really have to see this movie once more. I can't even remember the names of the characters except Mookie.

What did you think about this movie? Great political film.

I finally saw the site... I laughed so hard, not as bad as I thought it would be. Although I would not join such a thing, but when I first read "high priestess Peggy" I was busting a gut. Peggy! And imagine the poor kid, Anton's 3rd son. Satan Xerxes... Oh my god, but it is at least more intresting then Billy or Bob I tell you...

I had such a good laugh. Those rules aren't half as bad as I would expect from a Satanic Church. For some reason, nameing not harming children as a rule really surprised me. I thought, you know, that's what they want to do.

At 4/15/04 04:37 PM, hired_goon wrote: My bad, sorry - I mentioned it too soon. I'll come back in a few decades when the liberalism of society (and therefore you) has grown to accept zebra-people that as far as you know, I could be.

My bleeding liberal heart, please bother me no more... You cannot see the fallacy that I am vividly flaunting in front of your eyes. I have given up hope. I see that you are content believing that this issue isn't important to those whom it is and play senile with your small ridicules claim. I am reminded of a quote from Shakespeare's "King Henry the Sixth": 'Small things make base men proud.'

For my part, I am not aware what I am. Perhaps I'm liberal. Perhaps I am not. My thinking tends to lean liberal, as some of the good folk of Newgrounds have suggested. But I know this: Compassion. I try and attempt to feel like other people, especially in their difficult times, and out of respect and compassion, if those people say they are women, I will regard her as misses. If one says he is a male, then I will say, "How do you do, senior."

Let me flaunt your fallacy again like a drunken frat chick during Mardi Gras: 'I feel I am a zebra trapped in a human's body’ is just affective language in attempt to emotionally persuade people to think that this issue is something funny, and that the people with this type of issue should be unfairly mocked. And the sad thing is that people may have been persuaded. But I haven’t seen an argument within your comment. You haven’t presented a real nor a valid argument. This is the reason why I’m pouncing on you, and I sincerly hope that you will not take this as a personal attack.

At 4/15/04 03:17 PM, bombkangaroo wrote: so you automatically assume that a fur is joking, but someone who wants to change their gender is to ba taken completely seriously?

Nailed it... this is a serious issue for trannies, and so whom are we to say it isn't?

so if hormones are so damn important for making you think like the opposite sex, why do some people think they're the opposite sex without em? they must be lying! lying bastards!

It is important to trannies because it helps them to appear more externally female.It helps them develop attributes that can't be acheived no matter what they try. It makes a male's voice much more softer and female like, deminish facial and body hair, and other stuff.

People whom believe they're the opposite of women or men will act (or attempt) to behave as closely to the opposite sex, no matter what. Drugs and horomones are important to them to make the picture complete. They are not dependent on these things to act in the mannerisms of the opposite sex as you post seems to assume.

As a culture, Americans are very shallow about the subject of beauty. The outside is much more important. And to fit in, you got to look nice on the outside, even if you're rotten on the inside. And apart from the identity striff trannies face, they must undergo this aspect too. I have great compassion for those people, and probably will never know truly how they feel, or anyone on this board, I think.

At 4/15/04 07:53 AM, hired_goon wrote: I feel I am a zebra trapped in a human's body.

I can tell the type of person who you are from your mocking remark on peoples' striff with identity problems whom not only very often struggle with inner problems, but persecution, violence, and sometimes even murder from the rest of the whole world.

Aside from that, your snide remake's assumption that this issue is a laughing matter and your attempts to dwindle it to something redicules is not a good nor a valid argument, and at best it serves only as fair entertainment.

Enrique

At 4/15/04 06:13 AM, bumcheekcity wrote:

At 4/14/04 08:25 PM, spanishfli wrote: Fucking beaners... everyday I read how they're coming from Mexico taking up American jobs as janitors, laborers, farmers... shit...

I hate the way they steal our jobs... Just hiding behind a tree thinking "Wait! There's an American! Let's get his job!" Then they rush out, and before you know it, you're homeless.

Well put, spanishfli.

Err... I hope people have read the whole entire thing and know that I am using sarcasm. Although I am American, my heritage is Mexican, and I would never say such rubish unless I have a reason.

Yes this sounds like a bad situation. I myself nor my family have been on welfare, although we probably deserved it back then.

Your biological brother (you shouldn't really call him brother if you believe so) seems like a troubled person who needs LOTS of help. Your father does deserve welfare, it seems, but before I go on more, did your father apply welfare? I can't remember seeing that on your post. I'm not sure of his situation other then what you have proclaimed, but maybe he should try if your family is having difficulties with finances and making ends meet. But I'm pretty sure your father must be recieveing some type of pension if he's worked that long.

You sound like a responsible teen with a good head. But don't get too outraged about this issue. A lot of people, especially, it seems, most republicans want to due away this system just because of this one case. But I know that welfare is benefiting a whole lot more people, and few outrageous cases just like this shouldn't prevent what is, essentially, a good system.

I myself knew people who leached off welfare. My childhood neighboor had child after child, and I remember her saying to her friend that she liked it that way. The government caught on, and I think, they made her not have anymore children unless she wanted to go to jail, and whatever welfare she was getting, she needed to provide proof that she was looking for a job everyday. To her much discontentment, she was forced to work in a thrift store, but she abandoned her 8 children. Imagine that! 8 children all with different fathers. She was a very trashy type of woman; drunk before the sun came up, asleep before the sun went down.

Sadly my mother, who was a bit naive in the past, forced me and my sister to be baby sat by her. We went hungry all day, because my mother worked all day, and whatever food she packed for me and my sister was eaten up by my neighboor. It was only then that my mom noticed my sister looking a bit malnurished she found out the abuse of this woman. Furthermore, she made us clean her house all day, and one time she sprayed Raid on me purposely, which entered in my eyes and mouth, saying I was a fiflthy boy with lice. I was just five years old, but I knew and understood hate well enough, and shamely, I acted upon it because when she was sleeping on the floor, I kicked really hard in my ex-neighboor's boob and kicked her in the mouth, causing her two broken teeth and broken jaw. I ran away after that and took my sister to our schools bathroom. My mother has felt guilty about allowing us to be babysat by the likes of that woman even to this day. I will never forgive my ex-neighboor's cruelty.

I am not allowed to do it myself until I am a CPA.

I'm very sorry, but I'm not too sure what is an CPA. Perhaps I do, but for some reason, it isn't going into my thick skull...

Um... I don't know what to say to that.

Ha! You're so funny! I didn't expect anybody to say anything about that...

At 4/15/04 12:24 AM, Ruination wrote: I may be one to bash the United States every once in a while, but I believe it to be, at the core, a nation of good intentions. I just despise republicans in general, who come off as gun slinging rednecks lacking primary education. I'm a proud and true Canadian, but I like to think of America as kin (at least during Democratic terms).

I also believe the same... the US at heart has good intentions (most of the time). I don't dispise Mr. Bush, and think he actually has good attentions, but he screws up, and rather a shady character. I have never called him president, and always addressed him as Mr. Bush or Bush. The last election, which has made me very bitter, and his "intresting" past has made me very think he is someone whom I wouldn't trust. Although I believe that I am a very proud American, I am also very critical of my nation, and history. It seems we tend to pussyfoot around stuff, not tell complete truths, etc. BTW, didn't the US try to capture Canada, isn't that in your anthem song?

Another BTW: my history teacher of many many semesters ago, an amazing old man, has been fired for not teaching what the school told him to teach. He gave a VERY radical (in other words, truths) lectures. The one that stuck in my mind most was Alamo. The dean was an evil man whom I personally knew. The news I heard said that he was fired because he called the Annexation of Texas a theft of Mexican lands, and called the US an imperialistic nation.

At 4/15/04 02:43 AM, BeSkvnk wrote: My parents had paid the accountant to do my taxes for me because apparently thier little accounting major is incompetant. Damn them and their wanting to make sure I didn't do something to screw up thier deduction.

I did my own because I don't want to dish out money to a person if I could properly do it myself. I've been doing my own taxes since 18, and makes me feel proud that I could actually do them without any help.

BTW, somebody sent me an email saying masturbation is sick, etc. and that it was improper what I had done... THIS was a joke! For heaven's sakes person, don't be so innocent.

Did them by myself. This year seemed more complicated. After I wrote the checks, I masturbated into the envalopes, sighed with relief and grumbled as I walked home. I don't care about paying taxes, but why couldn't it be much more easier!

At 4/14/04 09:37 PM, JesusCyborg wrote:

At 4/14/04 07:58 PM, spanishfli wrote: One must look at distinguishing features of anything before we name it. If you live in a house, it doesn't mean that it is your home. Just because the man whom provided half of your DNA is your bilogical father doesn't mean that he is your father ................

You don't believe in objective truth? You only believe that truth is relative to thought and not an end in itself?

That's exactly what sucks for transsexuals. Reality is what it is. A is a. If you have an X and a Y chromosone your a man and vice versa. Until you can change that you can not in objective reality be a member of the opposite sex because gender is not relative to thought. This is why gender identity disorders are one of the worst problems you can have, because you can do nothing about it.

Object truth? I have not suggest a thing! As I've pointed out, I have stated males whom dress as females are biological males, but to the world, they should be seen as females for the reason because that is how they percieve themselves. That is why it makes me peeved to see news of murdered trannies. When Eddie "Gwen" was murdered, the newspapers kept referring Gwen as a he. "'Gwen was found in the field, he last seen at a party.'" Great disrespect Gwen, and all people whom have this type of identity issues.

At 4/14/04 11:11 PM, ReiperX wrote: Personally I can't stand illegal immigrants. I lived around a lot of them growing up (most of my step family in law are illegal immigrants and I called INS on them multiple times, really pissed off my step family but thats besides the point). Not all of them are bad, but a large amount of them don't give a shit about this country.
I strongly believe that companies knowingly hiring illegal immigrats should face very heavy fines, and if the company keeps the trend going then have the government take away their business licenses.
There are ways that immigrants can legally get jobs in the US, it just takes a little paperwork and some knowledge of the English language which a lot of the illegal immigrants have very little knowledge of. They use the tax payer's money without paying taxes.
I have no problem at all with legal immigrants, and I hope they make it in the US, but the illegal ones need to either try and do some paperwork to become legal or get out of this country. Just my opinion.

The problem is that Mexico's government, values, makes the Mexicans not something the US want to enter. In Mexico, education is not as highly regarded as hard work. That is why so many Mexicans are skilled laborers yet there isn't an equal amount the ones who are educated or schooled.

And to enter the US, which is very competitive, you basically need very good at something and get a very good job. Who is the US going to give Visa's? An Indian with a computer science major, or the Mexican who is only able to write his name but works really hard and good?

Plus Mexicans have been screwed big time after the US stole Texas, California, Arizona, etc... and the Mexican American War. America's usual trend after wars is to rebuild the place and aid the people whom we fought with. I still say we suffer guilt after the Vietnam War and to make up for it, we've given Vietnamese Visa's and provide them with several types of aids and sources. But the US has never done such a thing for Mexico. As a culture, Mexicans have been raped several times: first the Spanish, Second the Caudillos, third the government, 4th religion, and 5th by the US.

But I'm not going to derail this. Walmart should be fined millions of dollars if they hire illegals. How dare they hire them, make them work, and call the INS on them without giving the wages they've worked for. OH! It is SO easy to blam the illigal, but not the people whom hire that illigal. Goddamit, if there's going be more illigal immigration laws, then let slap big ass fines to the companies whom exploit the illigal Mexicans' willingness to work cheaply.

At 4/14/04 09:34 PM, Shadow_Sonic wrote: ya that is true and they take up all the room in school there are over 3000 kids at my high school and it pisses me off that there are that many and they keep having babies over and over theres some ones mom with like 6 kids with her and she is on welfare taking up tax payers money so the sooner they leave the better

Uh... maybe you should read the whole post. And there has been VARIOUS statistics about this welfare issue: white families are most likely to recieve it, and other services. Most illigals are too scared to go to the hospital becuase of being discovered. My point in the post: castigate BOTH sides if it should be done.

At 4/14/04 08:48 PM, _ZED_ wrote:

At 4/14/04 08:38 PM, spanishfli wrote:

At 4/14/04 08:31 PM, _ZED_ wrote: wow, you took a potentially important topic and totally fucked it up, well done

I beg to differ.

Appologies, i didnt read the end of your post, you were being serious after all

It's all right... that was the response I was looking for. I'm intrested in reading the waspish comments of many people.

At 4/14/04 08:31 PM, _ZED_ wrote: wow, you took a potentially important topic and totally fucked it up, well done

I beg to differ.

At 4/14/04 08:00 PM, Madspeed wrote:

At 4/14/04 07:51 PM, BeFell wrote: So the question is, should people who are not terrorists but who knowingly supply services to terrorists be charged with a crime?

Sure, it's the law, is it not?
If I knowingly supply technology to help a bank robber, it's against the law. If I knowingly lie under oath, it's purjury.

I sure as hell don't want to exempt someone helping a terrorist from the law.

I'm with you on this, although I still am against the patriot act 100%. If the man was prosecuted under a diffrent law, I would probably feel more okay. There is this saying in Spanish that I will translate: The person whom tied the bull's legs is as guilty as the one whom slit the bull's throat.

Fucking beaners... everyday I read how they're coming from Mexico taking up American jobs as janitors, laborers, farmers... shit...

Hey, I know... let's make a strike on Mexicans and other illegals whom come to the US to work. Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty sure you're sick and tired seeing them taking good American jobs such as burger flipping in McDonalds, janitors in big coorporations such as Walmart, bus boys at Denny's.

So let's make a strike.

For now on, nobody take a shit. Yes, don't ever shit ever again. You see, if there is no shit to be cleaned in toilets, then the poor big coorporations like Walmart can't be forced into hiring cheap Mexican labor. Wow, that's logical, isn't it?

Furthermore, for now on, nobody eat again. In one way or another, illegal migrant labor was used to harvest, plant and care for the produce most people eat, wheather it be the letuce in salads, the strawberries in shortcake, or the wheat in the bread you eat.

Back to reality.

I'm tired hearing illegal immigrants as scapegoats. For heavens sake! Was Walmart forced to hire illegals? If we punish the folks whom do the hardest, dirtiest, menial work most Americans don't want to do even for lots of money, then let us punish the people whom hire them. It is only fair. God, we Americans are such big hypocrites on so many issues, this one my biggest peeve.

At 4/14/04 06:06 PM, Bryce51690 wrote: If there were anarchy wed be gettin over run with gunfights and molotovs. it would be mayhem

Please explain your assumption. Gunfights, molotov, mayhem? Why are you assuming that people are going to kill each other. Intresting logic, I would like to hear more. Otherwise, Anarchy is not a bad thing at all.

but, seriously..... if your gay, your gay. if your straight your straight. if your a guy, your a guy, if your a chick, your a chick. keep it that way.

only biologically... It is how you view yourself that is important. If you are a guy who believes is a chick... then you are a chick, otherwise biologically a guy.

One must look at distinguishing features of anything before we name it. If you live in a house, it doesn't mean that it is your home. Just because the man whom provided half of your DNA is your bilogical father doesn't mean that he is your father Just because the female whom provided half of your DNA, does no automatically make her your motherJust because you are a male past 20 years of age with distinct adult male features does not make you a man. Just because you are born in the United States doesn't mean that you are American. Just because something may be biologicaly, scientifically, logically correct, doesn't mean that that what it is. I've known 40 year old adult males who act more like children and less then men... I have friends whose biological fathers ran out of their lives and it would be an insult to my friends and the men whom raised them call those biological fathers as their true fathers. And etc... I hope you're catching my drift...

At 4/14/04 06:30 PM, Operation_Ska wrote: Haven't you ever noticed that every war (almost) we always end up overkilling the enemy? What is it with us and killing? We killed the Native Americans to make this "great" counrty. We fucked Spain up. We pretty much castrated the Germans. Does this sound like a "geat" nation?

Yeah, the US doesn't really have the best history. On top of that, Americans like to "change" the story... This is one aspect of being American I hate very much. "Anexation" of Texas? Yup, we Americans just love to euphemisms... Theft of Texas more like it...

On this subject...I just saw the movie, Alamo. 80 percent accurate... left out some major things. The biggest one was the American attitude toward the Mexicans, Americans' wishes to make Texas a slave state (it does brushes a very little about it) otherwise it was very biased movie. Wasn't Davy Crocket a theif and a murderer running from the law? Or at least one of those guys? Movie doesn't show that aspect... Just like the American news, I'm telling you... This is not a proud moment in American history, yet it is once the story has been tweeked a bit.

At 4/14/04 07:43 AM, darkphantom wrote:

At 4/13/04 11:58 PM, ZeldaClock wrote: get his ass elected or else, you no life politcal anime porn watching junkies~!

With an appeasment approach like that how could he lose... I'm guessing your voting for him seeing as your posting his ads? well if thats the case then arn't you guilty of watching anime porn and of begin a junkey

Oh and here's a side note for ya... the majorty of pepole couldn't give two shits that he's a Revernd most of the canidates are Christian anyway... very sadley.

I couldn't get the hoopla about him being a revernd either. And although he is a passionate speaker, some of the stuff he says don't make sense, and it seems to me that he makes up words (like he puts the suffix 'tion' in every other word) or uses complicated words in wrong ways. And by all means I'm not putting him down. I for one don't speak proper English, being raised in the East Side of San Jose... Nonetheless I am able to distinguish his unusual choice of words... Otherwise I'm not going to vote for a man whose policies and standing I'm not too clear of.

What I've noticed that in history, the more people that are given freedoms, the more a society slips towards anarchy. It's a miracle that we aren't already plagued by murderous gangs, drugs, prostitution, random and heinous violence, and other harbringers of anarchy.

Usually the calmest people of a society are the most repressed in a government who uses violence and all sorts of cruelty. I would prefer to have my freedoms and let somebody abuse their freedoms then to allow a government use violence and force to make a Utopia.