13,999 Forum Posts by "fli"
At 4/30/06 05:50 AM, Redbob86 wrote: This petition will help stop tax-payer funding to Planned Parenthood. I just signed it, it's a good cause.
http://www.stopplann..thoodtaxfunding.com/
Even if you support abortion, would you really want your tax dollars going to fund it?
They provide free condoms, preventative shots to certain STDs, treatment, couseling, and other things--
Yes.
Let's take those too...
But I will sign this because I like to see a girl die with a wire stuck in her vagina in her house instead of a clean office. But whatever--
At 4/30/06 02:08 AM, theburningliberal wrote: We have a controversy about Flight 93's profits. But... rewinding back to the 2002 and 2004 elections, I don't recall the same ruckus arising when candidates (from either side) would exploit 9/11 in a political ploy to gain votes.
People have a problem with that too--
This was especially a big thing for Bush... Sam T does a parody of it a few years back where bush says, "9-11"-- and the ratings go up.
But I guess people get more vocal when it comes to terms with money. A tragedy needs, really, enough time where it's not so "direct".
In that way people could enjoy the movie without 1.) wondering where the money goes, 2.) for what puposes it's being created.
Titanic was a sad event, but nobody made a big whoopla about it was made into a movie because of the lapsed time.
Is it just me? Or is it just that no one cares that the people who control our country (in both politics and entertainment) have free license to exploit what ever tragedies they would like to in order to advance their goals because we have given up caring -- and the only time we give a damn about it is when money is involved?
Isn't that just a little materialistic? A bit?
Anime style: big eyes, small mouth--
At 4/30/06 01:05 AM, LAchlanator wrote: Yeh but the Americans don't want imagints because if they go to ameerica they don't have to pay taxes
Actually--
Not completly true.
There is a lot of incentives to pay taxes.
And immigrants can pay them without fear of deportation by getting a tax ID number. They can report their earnings, and keep whatever records they recieve.
The incentives:
easier to get citizenship.
easier to buy a house.
easier many things...
And there are substancial illegal immigrants who pay taxes.
New stastics are supposedly coming out for this year next year.
At 4/30/06 12:28 AM, comix123 wrote: Well, wow...
Fly,
fli
you say that you are third generation immigrant. I am fine with you here. Here's my problem:
My great-great-grandparents left Europe for the same reasons that people are leaving Mexico today. Because it was bad, and the life they were living was no to their liking. My great-great-grandfather was send back to Europe twice, and yet he returned LEGALLY, and managed to make a name for himself in this nation, when Jews were hated. He started one making nothing and today we are fine. He payed the taxes just like the children of those people who came here on the Mayflower. That is my main problem. That these immigrants are not contributing to this nation. We have to pay for their health care, children's schooling, food stamps (if they need them) and other things. That's not fair. They should have to work their asses off like my ancestors did to succeed here.
That's peachy to know-- however, I haven't said anything about immigration in the US. I don't even make a stance in my post if illegal immigration is positive or negative.
However,
thanks for contributing... maybe someone else will respond to you since I didn't write anything about on the issue. However-- there are several threads out there already on this.
However, he tried his hardest to learn English, he wanted to blend in as much as possible because he knew that that was how he could make it here. He learned English, spoke Yiddish (or Spanish) in his home, and he lived the "American" dream. Yes there were Irish gangs, yes there was and is a Mafia, but their initiations weren't kill some people and then get high. They were "classy" killers, and didn't shoot people on the highway. Yes I know you will mention the KKK and what not, but they are 1in 10000. That is the same with the Mexican gangs. They are only 1 in 1000, but it still is not okay.
I really don't know why were getting into gangs...
The rallies:
Here's all I can say: If you want to stay here and be "normal" don't not go to school and work and don't carry around a Mexican flag. Because being wrapped in green, red, and white doesn't scream out "I'm an American"
And being forced to wear red, white and blue unwillingly, or to be forced to sacrafice one's cultural identity is... American?
And now today's big issue:
Nuestro Hijo:
"Himno". Hijo is 'son'.
Sing the anthem in whatever F***ing language you want. Just let the English version be sung at our baseball games and at our schools. Sing the American national anthem in English and the Mexican or Cuban in Espanol.
The song wasn't being pushed to replace anything.
People are upset it's was created-- period.
Which is very stupid.
Basically, all I can say is...it's not fair that Mexicans can sneak in and be illegal. When 260 million of us had to do it legally. Just a tid bit of info...Roosevelt turned around a boat full of Jews avoiding the Holocaust. He turned it around and when they arrived in Germany they were shot. There was a quota. Personally I think that Roosevelt made a horrible mistake. Now I think if the American people turned that boat around, we can have the guts to turn around the ILLEGAL, not the LEGAL immigrants sneaking in today.
Roosevelt also had men round up several thousands of Mexicans and Americans that looked like Mexicans... and deported them-- very often illegally.
It didn't matter if they were natural born citizens. If they looked Mexican, they were rounded up with Brazeros and shipped out.
And there are several that are still alive today to remember this. My adoptive grandmother for one, who was a little girl who didn't know any Spanish when she was shipped to Mexico without her family.
But.. why are you bringing up Roosevelt, when I wrote about peoples' discontent that Mexicans translated the Star Spangle Bannder?
At 4/28/06 07:17 PM, crackanator wrote:At 4/28/06 07:14 PM, fli wrote: That's you-- aint it?hahaha mi so honay
love it
I realized there was a second part to it... damm.
"Me luv you long time."
God could have poked one in them when Adam was still clay--
I dunno...
seems obvious enough.
At 4/29/06 08:13 PM, Gunter45 wrote:At 4/29/06 08:05 PM, fli wrote: He was comparing the situation to the American Revolution.The colonists were British citizens, that's just it.
Because the protests are against all legislation that would felonize illegal immigrants. (the laws against owners who hire illegal immigrants have some how-- dropped.)
Gunter--
For the sake of praticality... consider this:
Do you think this would get as big as this if the premise was that?
Seriously, to use the proverbial saying more or less, take it straight from the ass' mouth.
This isn't about citizenship rights--
It's about current legislation that would put literally whole families in prisons for several years because they're illegal immigrants.
At the same time, there is a strong push to reverse the nationality of those born here but have/had illegal immigrant parents. No bill passed as of late, but it's happened. (You can read a previous post on this attempt-- although the news link has been obviously removed since then.) So essentially-- if I fight-- I'm fighting as an American because my own government is attempting to literally rip my family apart by putting them in prison.
Again--
Not about a taxation thingy... not about representation...
At 4/29/06 07:56 PM, stafffighter wrote:At 4/29/06 07:51 PM, fli wrote:Gutierrez compares their struggle with that of American colonists against British rule more than 200 years ago.At 4/29/06 07:46 PM, stafffighter wrote: I'm sympathetic to immigrants but "taxation without representation"? How are you supposed to represent undocumented people? I mean that logisticallyI don't believe this is a "taxation without representation" type of situation--
"The great slogan of the American Revolution was 'No Taxation Without Representation,'" he said. "Millions of human beings today and for many years are being taxed, and they have absolutely no representation. In fact, they are being bashed every day and humiliated."
Just reading the article and reacting dude.
He was comparing the situation to the American Revolution.
Because the protests are against all legislation that would felonize illegal immigrants. (the laws against owners who hire illegal immigrants have some how-- dropped.)
Take it from a person who is steeped in the news on this boycott as of late...
Really-- I don't think I've ever seen such as a thing... only in archives during the 1970s.
At 4/29/06 07:46 PM, stafffighter wrote: I'm sympathetic to immigrants but "taxation without representation"? How are you supposed to represent undocumented people? I mean that logistically
I don't believe this is a "taxation without representation" type of situation--
At 4/29/06 02:28 PM, Transkar wrote:At 4/28/06 06:11 PM, fli wrote: Oh Proteas--
It's not only just Mexican immigrants... but all immigrants.
All my family are participating. I'm finishing up a paper ASAP so I can turn it in before its deadline (May 1st).
I seriously think it will be huge.
Fuck off sheeple--
GTFO you un patroitic bitch.
At 4/29/06 08:10 AM, The_Tank wrote: Iv'e been patient with the unsual amount of insults and hateful remarks so I won't stop now, but why not show some respect for my culture, that is what you want for yourself after all.
"My culture"!!!
WTF?
I'm not part of it?
Am I a seperate entity?
You're speaking to an American born man.
With a Mexican heritage that won't be compensated.
What I've dished out is in no way comparible to what's been said to immigrants as of late. Not only does the United States wants to eliminate all traces of other peoples' cultures, but to replace them with theirs.
Mexicans in particular want to be and feel proud to be part of the United States. So when they do show love for their country, but according to the US... in the wrong language... they get scolded, even as far as being called unpatriotic.
We deserve a good swift kick in the ass--
I just finished watching Hostel--
OMG... Not only I am jumpy... I'm full of adrenaline... Like, I wanted to fucking kill those mother fucking bitches... I got all fucking insane when that guy ran over that whore twice.
And that guy,
'M god-- that was me doing it to him.
I've never seen a movie that made me shake.
I'm gonna do sit ups and run in place cause its 2:00AM and I'm more uppy than a friggin raver.
This isn't only an immigrant thing.
It's a whole family thing.
And not every Mexican have a shitty job--
I was a bank supervisor for several years.
Imagine what would happen to costumer service if... oh the person who did the approvals just didn't show up... and there aren't other people to replace him or her.
Yes,
this is the picture the US should be getting.
And it's not just only places where there are high immigrant populations-- it will effect all the states as a whole. Although, most places more noticably. Nonetheless-- the message will get heard.
At 4/29/06 01:49 AM, peedee wrote: I agree with Fli, except on the anthem.
The minute a country which has been english speaking for a loooong time allows something like that to change, you are changing the country.
In Canada, we allowed a Muslim into the RCMP. Not a big deal. The only problem was we changed the RCMP's uniform for him. Well, you came to our country, and wanted to be an RCMP. You should have to do it by our way, which has been essentially the same since the start.
The anthem shouldn't be changed. If you want to do it ina different language, do it on your own time. Don't make America any less patriotic then it has become.
Changed?
Nobody is forcing the United States to adopt this spanish version of the song.
It was created for people by people who feel patriotic.
It does not make the United States "less patriotic" than "it has become."
The United States complain how immigrants don't want to be assimulated.
Immigrants have proven the contrary. Not only do they accept this country with open arms, they've been brave enough to fight for it. First person to die for this lousy war? Not American-- a wetback. Yet, his death is forgotten. Not even I can't remember his name.
But what the fucking hell do they want if immigrants are accepting America? That they lose their culture, language, food? Name their babies Billy Bobs? Eat Pizza and Beef Stroganoff? Show neither propensity nor appitude to learn more than one language?
Pfft--
It's just fucking amazing.
The only "less patriotic" that's happening in here is the America's need to meddle in peoples' way of life if it doesn't follow their own.
And yet--
These immigrants are still fucking proud enough to sing the anthem, albiet it's in Spanish. God bless them, the persecuted.
At 4/28/06 11:00 PM, themagicalpig wrote:At 4/28/06 10:36 PM, fli wrote: They didn't rename it on purpose because "Star Spangle Banner" doesn't translate well in Spanish.Why not call it "American Anthem"? That translates well, no? Also it would show how much they truly do want to be concidered American
"Our Anthem" is much more suitable because it's everyone's athem. With the nation being divided, especially for Mexican Americans like me, this only strengthens people to be part of the "our" instead of the "me".
"Our Anthem." How beautiful that sounds.
Because it ceases to be "ours"-- but broken up to "theirs".
Latinos consider themselves to be Americans, although they don't fit the usual profile-- so it becomes much more important to emphasize that they're part of the culture too. Hence, "ours". Both sides are equal.
Some have a problem of where's the profits going--
I didn't see some claimer where they will go into the fund or whatever--
Some people have a problem with people trying to milk something sad for its money... I guess.
At 4/28/06 09:44 PM, Gunter45 wrote:At 4/28/06 09:38 PM, GSgt_Liberal wrote: 5'3", 119 and feelin' fine.Woah, you're a lil'un. 5'7" 150 here.
5'11''. 225 pounds. (From 235 since last month).
I really want to be back to 200 for the summer--
At 4/28/06 09:57 PM, themagicalpig wrote: Honestly I have no problem with the National Anthem being sung in Spanish, I mean every morning in my Spanish class we all stood and said the pledge in Spanish. What i don't like is the fact that is is being recorded for the soul purpose of making a statment. It's being claimed as an "Anthem for immigrants". For starters not all immigrants are spanish speaking. The second thing that really bugs me is the fact that they have renamed it "Our Anthem".
They didn't rename it on purpose because "Star Spangle Banner" doesn't translate well in Spanish.
"Our Anthem" is much more suitable because it's everyone's athem. With the nation being divided, especially for Mexican Americans like me, this only strengthens people to be part of the "our" instead of the "me".
"Our Anthem." How beautiful that sounds.
No matter the language or the musical arrangment of it, the National Anthem is the National Anthem. Being so bold as to try and claim a version as their own makes me feel even more like Immigrants don't want to try and fit into American culture.
I welcome all legal immigrants and I think it's wonderful to preserve their culture, as long as it does not get in the way of them fitting into US culture. I think this is a perfectly easy thing to ask.
At 4/28/06 09:38 PM, callofdutyfreak wrote: you ignorant ass nationalist fuker, you cum-guzzling thunder cunt, you donkey raping ass fucker, you little sperm dumpster!
Maby we "ignorant americans" don't want people like you in our country for several good reasons.
Hey asshole--
I'm Americano too--
La Loll
El 1337
1.) our country is already over crowded without all of these immigrants.
I am fine with LEGAL immegration, our country is based on it, i desend from polish immigrants. I can't put up with cutting your losses and bugging out of your country cuz it sucks so bad, and hopping the fence
2.) many jobs are already over seas, we don't need you taking more of them, i mean come on!
3.) the drugs in our country come from our neibors to the south, and are smuggled in through mexico. That's why we are so obsessed with border security, well that and the terrorists.
And another thing. You say you are so proud of being american, but you are calling americans ignorant?
you insulted your self, good job you mexican retard
Goddamn you're right I'm proud to be American,
but I'm not going to be a sheepl or whatever that name is.
We're acting like idiots if we're giving a hissyfit if the star spangle banner is song in Spanish-- instead of concentrating that people want and show enthusiasm.
Okay--
First it's like, "Illegal immigrants don't want to integrate! If Mexico is so great, go back then."
They overlook the fact that so many Mexican illegal immigrants do want to integrate, but maintain their own cultures too. That there were more Stars and Stripes flying during these protests instead of the red and green eagles.
Today a new Spanish song came out,
a Spanish version of the Star Spangle Banner. It's called, "Nuestro Himno". (Our Anthem). (Star Spangle Banner doesn't translate very well in Spanish...)
With distinctive "Banda" guitar and accordian dapple towns.
So fucking narly--
So wTf?
People are complaining.
"It should be ENGLISH!!!!"
Stupid Americans. Is it so terrrible that the song is in Spanish? What's more important? That the song is in English, or that we're creating people who not only want to be part of the culture-- but to contribute to it?
There's no fucking compramise. Oh-- The Mexico flag is flying right next to the American, instead underneath. Oh... It's Spanish and not English.
Seriously--
Not everyone wants to lose everything of their culture. Many, like me who are less than 2 generations away from immigrants, want to maintain the two.
I'm proud to a citizen of the United States. I'm proud that my heritage is Mexican. I will neither give up one nor give up the other.
So stupid Americans---
Just STFU.
Seriously.
It's "our anthem". Because it's everyone's. "Nuestro Himno".
And it doesn't matter if it's Spanish or English.
It's good news for everyone.
Compramise, stupid fuckers--
Actually Grace-- that's like WAY too competitive for me... I'm really down to earth, and I've seen the ARS competitions a few years ago. I submitted a Queen Elizabeth bloom in the amateur category. Nope-- nada...
I know it sounds weird, but those guys are truly hardcore.
They wake up at six to water their garden and pick off bugs. They spray. They fertilize. They pick off nearly all flowers from a bush so that one bloom becomes huge.
And if something happens to that flower-- tough luck.
Nope... I'm like my grandma before she passed away. If it's pretty, edible, or nice-- and doesn't require too much attention-- then plant it.
Anyways-- I'm growing a jacaranda tree right now. It's six years old and it outgrew it's pot. I'm going to plant it on the lawn. It will be nice when I have children, I will tell them, "I grew that tree from seed." Or my grandchildren if I'm lucky.
I got the seeds when I went to Mexico, and the Jacaranda grew in front of my grandparents house. Now that they're dead, this is the only living thing I have from them that I will always remember. My grandpa took me to a place where he grew an apple tree by spitting a seeding into the earth.
I like these types of stories...
This is a really cool tomato-- It's pointy and has stripes. (Neither parent had stripes) I'm trying to grow seedlings that look as close to the hybrid.
I hybridized and grew this rose from seed--
It's sick, but I'm sure it do good once I put it in ground. Beautiful orange/peachy colors though--
I've put out tomatoes today too-- also from my hybridizing efforts (I'll post a pic in a second.)
You know, Funk looks much bigger than Proteas.
I think this is because of natural build. It seems Proteas will look really awsome at 215. Proteas... don't think too much of it, but yeah-- I saw your pic and thought, "Very nice looking face." It's the eyes-- You really doesn't look 320 pounds. Not at all... You should really try to go to 215 and buy a semi tight shirt. (not the douchebag clubbing stripped shirt... a plain guayabera is a real big fashion statement nowaday. You can buy one at Macy's...
I've lost a few pounds since going to Mexico. The picture Fenrus has in his pic has really helped me, cause I'm constantly saying, "My face looks round..." :-( Really, I haven't been fat since I was a kid-- and what really messed me up was the constant deaths in my family.
Although, I don't know how much I've lost... going on the scales make me go crazy, so I just wear my old clothes that feels tight. I refuse to buy a shirt or pants size bigger than a 34 or 36. I got this shirt in my room that used to fit me beautifully before a year and half ago. I put it on every now and then to see if I'm going back to 200 pounds.
Oh Proteas--
You seriously don't know how big May 1st will be--
It's not only just Mexican immigrants... but all immigrants.
All my family are participating. I'm finishing up a paper ASAP so I can turn it in before its deadline (May 1st).
Although not potrayed in the news frequently (or not at all), but it's being spear headed by the Roman Catholic Church. They have the largest ethnic population in the United States: Mexican, Phillipinos, and a considerable Vietnamese community in several parts on the East and West coasts.
I seriously think it will be huge.
At 4/28/06 05:06 PM, SkunkyFluffy wrote:At 4/28/06 04:55 PM, YankeeFli wrote: 20 minutes is like running 75 miles by the end of the year.20 minutes? Sounds like you need to work on that.
Then how long is sex suppose to be?
