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At 1/28/05 03:22 PM, jmaster306 wrote:

At 1/28/05 03:13 PM, fastbow wrote: I dont bash atheisim, i dont even bash my greatest enemies, the Muslims.

Muhammad is going to kick your ass for that one.

Please show me some respect.

Here you go, I give you respect in hat form

Thanks, and hey, mohommed is DEAD! Although the muslims do have an awesome sense of style.......

hey, after reading all posts in this thread, It seems my scenario is still the most probable.

At 1/28/05 03:10 PM, BeFell wrote: I want to restate my original point that this topic is idiotic.

And I still say we would kill them.

This topic isn't idiotic. At least, it isnt idiotic if the USA has a few more leaders like bush.
I did support Bush over Kerry, but my true alliance lies with Michael Savage.

At 1/28/05 10:59 AM, BeFell wrote: That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You a brainwashed beyond the point of sanity, do society a favor and slit your wrists.

Actually, the stupidest thing I have ever heard is some of the anti-christian banter in these forums. I am not brainwashed. Before my conversion, I took a long, hard look at many religions before I chose christianity. I find my life is much better now that I am sure of my eternal fate. If you don't like christianity, quit bashing it. i dont bash mormonisim. I dont bash atheisim, i dont even bash my greatest enemies, the Muslims.

Please show me some respect.

At 1/27/05 11:32 PM, BeFell wrote: Does this mean the little God monkeys are leaving?

Religion forum my ass, we might as well have an astrology forum at least their predictions are occasionally right.

I am not leaving. And, also, every prediction in the Bible has come true so far. The ones that havent will come true in the next 50 years, probably.

At 1/27/05 10:48 PM, Xen_Tiberious wrote: First we should get a religion forum. Second we should adress the title of this post STOP THE HATE . I have started to come here because I like a good debate, however, the hostility that has been presented here is alarming- can't we agree not to degrade ourselves with personal insults?

A man after my own heart. Send me an email, man. lets have a civilized discussion!

Does anyone here think Savage will run in 2008?
I would vote for him..........

Look, just so we can escalate the flame wars a little more, what religion is everyone?

See what I mean about hate?

At 1/27/05 03:39 PM, Tombulgius wrote:

Burt, like the name??? Or do you mean "Burnt"...or.....

sorry for the typo. I type with 2 fingers. I mean burnt.

At 1/27/05 03:33 PM, BeFell wrote: The bible was written by guys in dresses who were high on mushrooms. By all counts Jesus was a hippie.

The Bible was written by regular people through God's divine inspiration

That is exactly why there should be mandatory abortions whenever a dumbass bible thumper gets pregnant.

hey, Reiper is not a Christian. He is a mormon. Big diffrence.

Stem cell research is cool, as long as the cells come from donors. Possibly a donor program for dead fetuses?

Also, abortion is murder. I live in the same city sa one of the busiest abortion clinics in the USA, and this is a really hot topic here.

one way the Bible says you will know peace for Israel is coming soon, si when the jews start burt offerings again.

I personally think this post has gotten of topic, and turned into exactly what I was protesting. I am not tolerant. I am a Christian. All other religions are wrong. I may not like them, but I dont hate them. All I am trying to do is discuss some certain subjects with people from very diffrent views without it turning into whoever can say the f word the most!

At 1/27/05 04:11 AM, ReiperX wrote: So do you think Abbas or Sharon are the anti christ, or do you think peace won't happen? Personally I just don't believe the book of revalation.

I dont think either of them are the antichrist. The Bible says that he hasnt been revealed yet. Also, peace will come to Israel eventually.

People. This is exactly what I am talking about. I am not a liberal, and I do trust God 100%. I do not believe mormonisim.

If this war actually happened, US retalitory strikes would turn Europe's soil into glass before the first wave even got here. The Eurotroopers would be taken out En Route by a series of blasts from HAARP. Russia would get pissed, and send her own missiles and HAARP-blasts. China would then send soldiers into the USA, to take over whatever was left. All of the Arab countries would go bezerk, and hit Israel with all available weapons, and Israel would respond in kind, and the Middle ERast would be so much glass. Then North Korea would invade the South, and Thailand would be overrun by all the local Dictatorships. By this time, we have mainly anarchy. Korea would be the last remaining power, and the majority of the planet would be uninhabitable. And, after five years, Bio- Chem- and Nuke- warheads will have rendered the Earth lifeless.

Effectively, all this post is is a map for WW3 and complete Anihillation..

According to the book of Revalation, in the Bible, the only person who can bring peace to Israel is the Antichrist..................

I am never sarcastic about the truth, fabulous.

This is exactly what I mean.............

Also, prove to me completely that the Mormons are right, and I just might convert.

My faves: The Kennedy assasination, Moon Landings, Mars probes, HAARP, and the latest one, NASA hiding data from the Helios observitory so not to cause a massive panic over gargantuan Solar Flares. I also love the current Comet Composition theroy, and the Planet X theroy, and who doesn't love the Illuminati? Or the underground Cities? Or the recent NY blackout? Or Osama Bin Headroom? Or the "war for oil"?

And the best thing is, everything above is true..................

People! I used to come here on a regular basis, just for some honest, informed discussion. Now, all I see are losers throwing cheap shots at each other! Liberals cheap shotting conservatives, Bush supporters, and Christianity. Please! And Conservatives attacking Liberals and Islam. I mean seriously! Cmon! All I see here are people arguing over petty issues.
The Bible here says to support your govornment, yet this forum makes me think you guys are trying to start a revolution. Please! If you want to bash Bush, do it elsewhere. If you want to bash Christianity, do it elsewhere! Or, better yet, ask Tom Fulp to create an official Religion section in the BBS.

Also, yes I am a christian. If you have a problem with it, show me something better via email, or even here. I am willing to have a nice, civilized discussion with anyone.

Thanks people!

Hey, better they pray to God than to the psychic Hotline. And, If Bush wants to pray, let him. I find my life goes much better when I pray every day.

it seems to me you have enough faith in your argument against me to automatically assume you think that because i am a Christian and only 16 years old I don't know what I am talking about. Everything requires faith. Call it what you will, but I'm sure youve had things go wrong on you before........

At 12/5/04 03:11 AM, Maus wrote: Read your Bible, hon. 'specially Leviticus.

-I have read Leviticus. I have a Bible right here. I will read it right now. What am I looking for?

Look. The Bible is not my source, Real life is, and it's my life, so...

I heart you. Heart me, too. Or I'll stab your face off.

-If the Bible is not your source, how can you claim to be any type of christian?

At 12/5/04 03:05 AM, -poxpower- wrote:

At 12/5/04 02:57 AM, fastbow wrote:

-Sorry. somebody already made that religion. it's called Islam. And I'm sure if all inatimate objects could talk, they would think it was pretty arrogant of you to expect them to do every little thing you asked them to without trying to make sure they are capable.

I'm not really sure what the hell you're talking about at this point, but I'll assume you're on some sort of powerful drug/laxative :o

-it is quite obvious you have faith in something, unless you double check all code on your computer, take the shell off, check for every transistor, wire, resistor, capacitor, and silicon chip, and then dismantle and inspect your keyboard before typing every single letter, you have faith the program will run, all the parts are in the computer, and the keyboard will type.

That's also faith. So, unless you completely dismantle, inspect, and reassemble everything you come in contact with, you still have "arrogant" faith.

in case you haven't noticed, that's exactly what logic entails. I just "believe" whatever seems most logical with my current amount of knowledge, which is what makes the most sense ( not, you can't debate that part, its true).
If I seem to be arrogant to you by simply acting the way everyone should, its because you are arrogant and acting in a way that makes no sense ( that's called reading the bible and thinking its all true)

-how do you use logic to determine whether your chair will support your weight?

At 12/2/04 07:33 PM, aerisferal wrote: Isn't the old testament prove that God is unforgiving. Your supposed to stone to death peopel working on sunday and gays.

-The law was instituted as a path of salvation before the coming of Christ. Also, God did offer to save Sodom and Gomorrah if 10 righous people could be found in BOTH cities

In Judges 11:30 god accepts a human sacrifise. A warrior promised god he would sacrifise the firs thing that met him at the door if he could win this war. His daughter greets him at the door and a long story short he sacrifieses her and he wins a war.

-Do some research. This type of sacrifice was diffrent. Jeptha's daughter sacrificed hetr chances to have a family, and lived and worked in the temple for the rest of her life.

Also what is the deal with the exact same story of moses in greek mythology. Deucalion gets told by zeus to build an ark to escape a flood.

-Many religions have stories like that. If the entire world were covered with water, that would be pretty hard to forget, and it would affect all cultures.

To many things wrong in the bible.

-the Bible contains scientific proof that took us over 8000 years to find. The Bible is the best source of history in the world. The Bible is the best preserved book in the world. There is more archeological proof for the Bible than any other aincent text. Now, what is wrong with the Bible?

At 12/5/04 02:50 AM, -poxpower- wrote:

At 12/5/04 02:40 AM, Maus wrote:
Faith is believing without seeing. Without touching. Without hearing. Everything.

yes, and justifying things with it is called "arrogance" and it plenty reason to get your ass kicked. "my god says its ok to beat women, so it is, I have faith".

-Sorry. somebody already made that religion. it's called Islam. And I'm sure if all inatimate objects could talk, they would think it was pretty arrogant of you to expect them to do every little thing you asked them to without trying to make sure they are capable. That's also faith. So, unless you completely dismantle, inspect, and reassemble everything you come in contact with, you still have "arrogant" faith.

At 12/5/04 02:44 AM, Alias_Longhorn123 wrote:

Lets say there was a God ....

I'm willing to do that. If God exists, he can do 1 of 2 things the way I see it. He can either let everyone go to heavan, or he can exist by the laws laid down in his divine book. Either way, I'm safe.

Now, suppose God didn't exist. If I follow Christ's principles, I will live a pretty good life. Most religions are work-based, so I'm safe. And then, what if there is no god and death is the end? I die with no regrets any way you roll the dice.

At 12/5/04 02:30 AM, -poxpower- wrote:

See, THAT is why you fail utterly and miserably.

-Fail? Ever since becoming a christian, my life has been a complete turnaround.

You have no proofs :o You have nothing.

- I have the same thing you have. Faith in a theroy.

For that sorta bullshit, you deserve all the persecution you Christians dished out on each other......

-Christians haven't done that since the Middle Ages, when everybody wiped with their hands and lived to be 33. Also, the persecution now is coming from atheists and muslims.

One thing you need to realize is I have faith. You have faith. Everyone has faith. You have faith your computer was built right. You have faith NG isn't riddled with viruses. You have faith you will wake up in the morning. You have faith your car will start. you have faith in many areas. I do too. Mine is a little diffrent. mine is based on God. what is your faith based on?