At 9/21/09 03:17 AM, GayDorf wrote:
That study clearly indicates the following:
"Theoretically, an ideal vaporizer could minimize production of tars by holding the temperature above the point at which THC vaporizes, but below that where carcinogenic hydrocarbons are produced by combustion [Note] In practice, both vaporizers produced over ten times more tars than cannabinoids, "
It then goes on to say in the paragraph after that a vaporizer on the market in the 70's claimed to have MUCH better results than the conclusions of the study.
FURTHER:
The notion that high-potency marijuana is less harmful directly contradicts official government propaganda, which maintains that marijuana has become more dangerous since the '60s due to increased potency. This claim appears to rest less on scientific evidence than on the desire to frighten the public. A careful analysis of government data by Dr. John Morgan has shown that the supposed increase in potency has been greatly exaggerated [American Marijuana Potency: Data Versus Conventional Wisdom, NORML Reports (1994)]. In any case, however, there is no good reason to presume that higher potency marijuana is more harmful, given the potential respiratory benefits of reduced smoke consumption. The hazards of excessive potency are purported to be an increased risk of acute overdose and greater susceptibility to dependency. However, both problems can be avoided if users adjust their dosage to potency. For most users, such hazards may well be outweighed by the benefits of reduced smoke consumption.
Anyway, yea I was out of line having not read any further than the statement early saying "vaporizers do show a significant reduction in tar, but waterpipes don't."
Ten times more tars than cannabinoids. That's not healthy at all.
You ignore the documented correlation between higher concentration of THC and lower tar intake. The study (and the paragraph I quoted above) suggests that there may be as much as a five-fold reduction of tar with higher potency marijuana, hash, THC oil, what-have-you.
Anyway, tars are not necessarily more damaging to the lungs than many other organic or inorganic dusts.
ad hominem.
Absolutely.
There are literally hundreds of studies indicating that HFCS is the direct cause of most obesity in America today, because of its free proliferation as a result of the strong lobby of the corn industry, and because of its relative cheapness compared to regular cane sugar, and some artificial sweetners. There's literally nothing you can do to prove that HFCS is a good thing because the weight evidence against that sentiment is overwhelming.
I wouldn't bother because I didn't agree with the statement, it was simply to prove a point. Which you help prove quite thoroughly by behaving exactly as I suggest: defending your idea that HFCS are bad.
I just find it irresponsible for people to proliferate the use of cannabis and any other drug in the face of what we know to be their inherent dangers.
Which means what, exactly? You find it irresponsible for people to make decisions about their own lives? Or you find it irresponsible for people to view mountains of evidence on both sides, have a personal experience, and make up their own mind?
People are irresponsible. You consume things every day that you simply can't know whether they are as beneficial as you believe or if tomorrow you've got cancer from it. You ever been near an automobile? You're inhaling tars. Ever spent time in a big city? Ever had an open fire? Ever drank coffee? There are many dangers in the world for people to irrationally fear (despite the fact that many get along quite happily coexisting with those dangers), all proponents of marijuana want to show is that it isn't as dangerous as the misinformed make it out to be.