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At 2/4/10 03:41 AM, ArmouredGRIFFON wrote:

At 2/4/10 12:38 AM, escudo0 wrote:

Yeh, I know that MMA is much more useful in practical situations, but I never really understood how you can be taught with all these multiple fighting backgrounds, effectively and efficiently at the same time. You'd have to be a natural to 'out grapple', somebody who has lets say done pure judo practise, with pure MMA training. Of course the Judo practitioner may be useless on the broad scale of combat (strikes 'kicks, punches), but the defensive idea of Judo would probably make up for that.

Personally if I wanted to join MMA, I'd probably take on some sort of Karate or additional Boxing on top of that. Doing just this MMA practise would seem significantly less focused in the way we learn, Otherwise it'd be more difficult to be ahem, effective in the throwdowns and the smackdown.

At my friends gym they devote one day to each art a week. monday is wrestling tuesday is boxing ect. and on friday and saturday they do open sparring to bring it all together.

At 2/3/10 07:29 PM, ArmouredGRIFFON wrote:

At 2/3/10 03:32 AM, TheFaces wrote:

Topic really ended there out of politeness, but correct me if I'm wrong, I always thought MMA, was a competition of people from different fighting backgrounds. Nobody in actual MMA proffesional competitions, have MMA on there background profiles. Fair enough if you do, boxing and judo, etcetra. But if you went into MMA with no fighting background I'd imagine you'd get decked, fast.

Bullshit? You decide.

You would get decked, for a while untill you learn the little bits of this and that that keep you alive. Eventually (ideally) you could get good enough to destroy the "specialist" if you take him out of his world. Stand up with jits guys take down the boxers and such.

Also it can be kind of a benefit to start with MMA because you wont have bad habits learned from other styles, like pulling Guard for BJJ guys whcih is okay for BJJ but bring in ground and pound and you'll probably get stomped, Or a boxer defending with a shoulder roll and keeping his hands high all the time and forward stance is going to get takendown or get his lead leg destroyed by kicks.

So it's not nessacerily all bullshit if you have the right mentality about it.

At 2/3/10 12:06 AM, Loadmasta wrote: Professional fighter here, just curious if there were any other pro or ammy fighters on Newgrounds.

There are several fighters on NG and I seem to be the only one still around. I do Muay Thai and jujitsu. How about you?

At a US bombs/ Far from Finished show there was this one older skinhead who THREW me through the pit wall witch was about 5 people thick and im no small guy at 6 foot 4 and 200lbs easy. He was also a real cool guy we talked a bit after the show and it tuns out the middle east hired him just to make sure it was a circle pit. Fuckin tank that guy was.

Also Zack de la Roca and Tom Morrelo were both huge Black Flag and Bad Brains fans and I do consider Rage to be punk if only for their Fuck the Government attitude.

Mind if help out? I have had 3 succesful relationships with three trainwrecks of women and one bad one with a normal(ish) girl.
My first gf was a totally tapped gothic artist who literally kick the nerve endings out of my shins. Pain makes me laugh and she was into this and she littleraly destroyed my shin bones with steel toe boots. I made this last for 3 years untill we broke up on good terms. We couldn't see each other as much as we liked and you change a lot from 8th grade to sophomore year.

The second I met at college. when I met her she was selling her manic depression meds to pay off drunk driving fines. We broke up after she lost her liscence and had to move to new york. THis lasted about 4 months.

My current girlfriend was kind of seeing a friend of mine who she stopped after he spelled ingore horribly wrong in a text message. He is a good guy but seldom have I met a dumber man. He and she came to a party at a friends house where everybody got drunk and she passed out literally across me and a buddy kevin. and luckily i got the top half of her because she peed. ON HIM. AND HE WAS COOL WITH IT. She is also a small time weed dealer and drug user which is fine by me. This has lasted 8 months so far.

So am I in.

This is the story of my first punk show I posted this in general a few years back. I found out the first band was everybody out! who went on to become my favorite live band ever. I get a great nostalgic feeliing from reading this so I thought I'd share.

58. Topic: My first punk showPosted: 09/16/07 07:40 PM
Forum: General
That was one fucking awesome show.

The first band i had never heard of but they got the audience warmed up pretty fucking quickly. A mosh pit started around me immediatly and I had a few runs through, took out a few people but the crowd picked up anybosy who fell,so I get to the outer circle of the pit to get some air in my lungs because 20 minutes in and im beat already. This guy behind me keeps kicking me i the knee. I just turnaround for a second and BAM one of the kids in the pit jumped 2 rows of people and headbuts me in the face. Broken nose. Still don't give a shit.

Second band comes on i'm still only breathing out my mouth. My friend wanted to go in the pit I push him in. He's only about 5'5 130 lbs. He's getting thrown like a ragdoll. He makes his way back over to me and asks me to catapult him in. The guy in front of us wearing a black denim jacket with black flag and bad brains patches all over it sees what we were doing and offers to help. We threw this poor S.O.B into this pit and dropped the whole fucking thing. 17 people hit the ground and me and bad brains guy are laughing our asses off.
After the second band finishes up there is about a 15-20 minute gap between then and murphys coming on. The crowd start a shoving match next to me. I get pulled in, theres no music playing we are just beating the crap out of each other. This big and I mean big dude next to me starts sceaming HOLD THE LINE SPARTANS and he and a bunch of his friends did the bark from the 300.

Murphys finally comes on and me and my friends rush tword the front of the stage. We get with in three rows of the front. Al Barr is five feet away from me. I reach out my fist and he pounds it. I'm sandwiched against the guardrail for the rest of the show. The crowd really comes alive at Baroom Hero Tessie and shipping up to Boston especially. A soon as ken kasey said "this is it you know how we end it" mw and my friends jump the guardrail and get onstage for skinhead on the MBTA. There had to be about 150 people on stage moshing. I was right between Al Barr and Mark Orrel. My buddy got Kaseys pick and an autograph I got my bloody shirt torn off.

What a fucking show. I still can't hear right.

I desperatly need a show. I'm losing control. There is nothing untill march. Flogging Molly. Reason to live for another few months at least.

How important is flexbility to you in your particular styles?

Jujitsu uses a good deal of flexability mostly in the hips and knees. When I started along this path I was stiff as a 3 day old corpse, but now I can just about put my leg behind my head. It helps with rubber guard and a few of the more flashy transitions plus it increases the range of motion of my guard. It also helps my head kicks when standing.
How about you guys?

At 12/22/09 09:58 PM, TheFaces wrote:

:: Anybody that says no, would be lying to you, and themselves. The fact is that when a fight is about to break out, you can feel it, and you start running scenarios in your head. If you've been trained to fight, chances are one of these scenarios involves you engaging them as an opponent. If you do this, then you are already over confident simply because you're contemplating taking on a person that you don't know anything about in a physical confrontation.

It gets so bad with me that sometimes my hands and knees start to shake. People mistake this for fear untill they seen the wide grin on my face. It feels like drinking a pot of coffe all at once. My stomach knots up, my senses sharpen and I start mumbling to myself like a coked up scizophrenic. (or so I have been accused) It is a fantastic feeling, one of few reasons why I wake up in the morning.(afternoon)

One of the best displays of TKD I have ever seen in MMA. Cung Le is great at picking people apart with his feet. Shame he left his hands down tward the end.

At 12/20/09 03:05 AM, Reaper93 wrote: One guy was like "yeah I did judo for X years, swing that at me like you would" when I had my wooden training sword in my room. I was like ok and swung it at him slowly for purposes of demonstration and he like grabs my wrist as though he's going to do a wrist throw on me.

Apparently he misses the part where a sword going 120 miles an hour cleaves through his arm as he makes a grab for my wrist??

When exactly are you going to have a sword in a fight aside from training?
Or maybe you are lucky and your state has open carry laws!
I think 9 times out of 10 that guy would be fine.

At 12/20/09 03:39 AM, TheFaces wrote: Well, sometimes it really could be that somebody is afraid they might hurt you. I'm not saying that every fool that claims they know martial arts is a grand master or anything like that. But I constantly get people daring me to spar them at parties, and whatnot because my friends all know that i'm handy in a fight and tend to blab it to everybody. I ALWAYS turn these down simply because I lack the control necessary to effectively spar, and I can bet that I would almost always end up hurting them.

Of coarse you occasionally get that guy that runs his mouth off, and later on gets drunk and throws a swing at you anyway. Those are the guys that get thrown in the pool.

But... I see your point.

I have those friends too, but usually those friends are pretty damn good themselves and far more extroverted than I and they usually are far more willing than I. Nobody at my school has ever seen me fight yet I still have a reputation as a tough bastard because of them, they tell stories of fights we have had in the past and soon everybody figures "if he beats everyone and this guy kocked him out, than he must be really fucking good". I am, but they will never see it. Still people tend to give me a wide berth. If you want to appear better than you are, don't say anything at all. I was once told "it's the quiet ones you have to worry about." it's usually true.

The simple fact is if you know what you are doing than you shouldn't even have to talk about it.

At 12/20/09 06:13 AM, DuckSeason wrote: I have a few questions for you Martial Art Gurus.

In all of your years, practising Martial Arts, have you ever found a situation where it deemed to be useful?

Yes oh god yea.

Why do you study Martial Arts? For fitness, discipline or is it for these violent confrontations?

See about four posts earlier. The basic jist of it is demons, lots of demons.

Does doing Martial Arts make you over confident when it comes to violent confrontations?

No but it is nice to have in the back of your head as a boss is yelling at you that simply, if it came down to it, I could make him cry.

Has anyone ever threatened you with a knife or a gun and your Martial Arts paid off?

Yes a drunk friend who is a knife enthusist has attacked me before, he came to hid senses after a hip toss.

If someone was to mug you, would you give them what they want or showcase your fighting skills with the risk of yourself being injured or even murdered?

I usually carry nothing. I don't have a cell phone and I only carry car keys. I probably wouldn't fight but it would have to be a very shitty mugger to take a shot at me. Being 6'4" is a huge help in avoiding confrontation.

Which is the best Martial Arts?

It depends on the situation.:
Is MMA better than traditional Martial Arts?
Yes.

I have been thinking in the last few days about what effet martial arts have done for me. I realise that it has given me a tremenous amount of confidence whereas before I was quiet and insecure. It tought me that It is best to be who I am not what some school wants from me. It has made my view of life much simpler and focused. I still to this day have no goaly lofe other than to to become better everyday at this. It has given me a reason to wake up in the morning when nothing else was there and had no goals to complete no focus, no belief in anything other than my life was pointless and probably very short. In all honesty it is still probably going to be very short. I am a natrually destructive person and I accept this fact as just another part of life. To repress this part of my personality would be worse than to just accept it, So i put my time tward learning to destroy others in order to one day perhaps destroy this part of my personality. I destroy in order to rebuild myself. I've come around to rather like this life I lead. this one focus. Martial arts.

Why do you do this?

At 12/19/09 01:33 AM, dsmking wrote: At 12/16/09 10:18 PM, Twone wrote::
If you met shin I'm sorry. :p

Why are all these old members randomly appearing again. All we need is leth to make everyone hate eachother and the circle is complete.

Anyways so I'm sure everyone here has met this guy in their life. He acts like he knows martial arts. He is says he is so sure about every aspect of martial arts but you really don't think he knows jack squat. They might come up to you and pull a "move" and say, "If I did that you would be on the ground" all the while you think, "well cracka I'm standing here holding this thing and you trip me, I think I might." It's so hard to not just say something like, "Shut up, It's obvious you know shit, and you pale in comparison to me even if you spent the next 10 years of your life training. Stop it". But I of course lead it off with a smile and just walk on. What do you do to people like this.

I hate those people. Usually if they seem really into their own bullshit, I just ask them to spar. They either back right the fuck off or try to pass it off like they are so far beyond my level I would get hurt. I tend to become quite insistant when I meet these people that we spar because it is a put up or shut up type of moment. What is the worst that can happen? Either they stop talking, we spar which puts an end to all their talking after they get their ass kicked or very rarely will you meet someone who actually knows what they are doing and yoou wonder why they were talking in the first place.

But there is almost nothing better in this world than exposing a poser for what he is.

At 12/15/09 10:58 PM, Reaper93 wrote: I'd do that but using a real sword to spar with, much less have a fight with, is a no-no :p

It is a good thing not to have to run after a light sparring match.

At 12/15/09 06:47 PM, dsmking wrote: If you are serious about knocking this guy out and cracking his ribs and stuff, you kind of need to work on your control. If you do it on purpose then you stop and if you do it by accident then learn control. Anybody can be taught to hit hard but to control how much force you use is a lot harder. I mean if I spar one of my friends outside of TKD I don't hit them the say way I do my friends from TKD, thats messed up, and even still when I spar my friends from TKD I don't useexcessive force in a friendly match. Rethink what your doing brah.

There are times for friendly matches and sparring and so forth and we do (really often) do this but a couple times a year me and about 10 or twelve friends all get together and see what we can really do. The three or four of us I had already mentioned and several others who train independantly or are in actual dojosor what have you. You show up pick a guy and you go at it. You can refuse if you want, no one thinks less of you if you refuse, because it is your right. It is understood that these are not sparring matches but actual full force fights. Everyone understands this we have rules, gloves mouthguards and if the fight is stand-up head gear. Sparring is great, a nessecery part of fighting and learning, but to truly pit yourself in a full force match against a trained opponent is just as important to know yourself as a martial artist. There are no hard feelings or animosity after a match just a reborn desire to learn and work harder after meeting a better opponent.

Sparring has its place, but going 60% all the time after a while tends (for me atleast) to slow my reflexes and the simple thruth is EVERYONE wants to they can do when the shit truly hits the fan.

At 12/13/09 08:34 PM, TheFaces wrote:

At 12/13/09 08:11 PM, escudo0 wrote:

I'm fairly tall myself, so I know what your talking about. I like to use Muay Thai to just step back and continuously dole out damage from a distance. It's effective unless somebody has the balls to walk through my kicks, and punches, and I tend to fell most people before I even end up on the ground.
This tends to lead people to think that I don't have an inside, or ground game, which is a big mistake. So they'll go ahead, and eat a punch to walk inside just to find that they're on the ground being pummeled before they realize what's going on.
The point i'm trying to make is that he's actually smarter then you take him for by not stepping inside on his opponents, whether he realizes it or not. But I see the point you're making. You can't be a great fighter without the cojones to back it up.

I think he is kind of gun shy with me because last time we fought I cracked two of his ribs with a hook, I've also knocked him cold a couple of times. One time we were sparring, I had full 16oz gloves and he was wearing 4 oz mmas, and I hit him with one of the greatest punches of my life. I threw a spinning backfist and landed on the button. He landed with his entire body about 3 feet right of where he started. He was out for a few seconds and when he came to all he said for about 5 minutes was "holy shit" or "Fuck, my head". I had to drive his car home that night. Good times.

He needs to step in because he cannot beat me when he's in my reach and outside of his. It's that simple. It's not like he wouldn't step in on somebody else, in fact he perfers it as he has a rather nasty Thai plum but he just won't take the chance. He has seen me fight so many times he can almost emulate my style. He knows the only chance he has is on the inside where his extreme brick like qualities could take over but he's content to take the loss lying down. He has told me several times that he just won't do it fighting a friend. I HATE that he says this, it seems almost an insult. Like I couldn't take it.

Also I perfer muay thai for far outside(i.e lead leg kicks) or real close inside or clinch work (elbows, plum and knees) I like boxing for midrange stuff because muay thai under utilizes the jab and midrange work. Plus it just feels more natural and accurate than the other styles I have seen.

At 12/12/09 06:34 PM, TheFaces wrote:

Just have a breakdown after the match. Replay as many of the game changing maneuvers as you can remember, and teach the other person how you did it, and how to more efficiently defend against it.

We had six guys (including me) that were there regularly, and two more that would make it when they didn't have to work. So it's not like you were always fighting the same person. Not to mention that everybody is getting better at the same time, so even though you may learn how one person reacts here and there, they're also learning more ingenuous ways to throw.
Sometimes we would have two, three, or even four on one matches too. It was just a way to simulate a real world situation... except your attackers are all fairly well trained martial artist. @_@
But ultimately you are right. You learn your opponent over time. I analyze my opponents so well in fact that towards the end of our senior year, I could actually take on four of them, and win. (Granted I would get my ass thoroughly beat too.)

One of the guys I train with is my friend paul he is about 5'8" about 185 and he is just a fucken brick if you look at him, but we trained together too much. After about 4 years he has almost completely adopted my style which is strange considering the huge hight disparity and it is very aggrevating because in order to actually get inside he would have to eat at least one solid punch which he for the most part refuses to do, so I usually win our matches just by staying outside and using my massive arms to jab my way to victory. He could beat me, he is a good fighter, i've seen him roll over some very serious opposition but he has too much fear to do any good against me. He won't try to come inside so he just gets out boxed. I try to help, give him advise but he just won't take it. It's a fucking shame.

I agree with you, there is nothing like an abusive childhood to make an excellent fighter, because a man who's already had his nose smashed three times is far more willing to risk it again.

At 12/12/09 02:38 AM, TheFaces wrote:
That reminds me. Back in highschool, me and a few other guys that I had met all studied different styles. We eventually ended up turning one of our more "Fortunate" friends extra game room into a sparring ring, where we would strap up, and pretty much duke it out being forced to learn how to adjust for different situations, and styles. I honestly learned how to fight, and defend myself more efficiently in the two years with that ragtag bunch of individuals then in my also limited, but greatly exceeding years of formal training.

This is more or less how I trainmost of the time. I also have a a daily stretching routine and once or twice a week I do weights, I also run a bit. But sparring should be the basis for any real martial arts regimen. Learning to scramble on the ground in a real (but safe) situation was the best thing I have ever learned. Submissions are great but only the really basic ones such as armbar, guillotine and rear naked choke are absolutely needed, the more advanced and flashier ones are butter (also add a nice little fuck you to your victory).

But the problem with having the same opponents day in and day out is eventually you completely learn each others styles. The when they feint, the weaknesses and strenths most importantly their telegraphs for punches or kicks. If you catch on to these and they don't find yours you can beat them most of the time which is discouraging for the both of you. So i started asking around at my school looking for new training partners who are willing and more importantly able to fight.

I have a few prospects who I hope are willing to take me up on my little offer and add a little variety and fun to my training.

At 12/11/09 03:22 PM, ArmouredGRIFFON wrote: The way I see it; the more we improve our capacity to express the freedom of techniques and body movements in martial arts; the more we establish our capacity to improve from those techniques, and thus we improve proportionally our oppourtunity to learn.

If we stay within the same strict confines of such set movements all the time, we restrict our beliefs, and we do not permit difference. More importantly this means we never really make a difference, and never challange the effectiveness, of a diverse range of styles, or challange the implications of a style all-together.

But that's the principle of MMA as far as I can tell. I've never done it, just that's how I see it.

This was the core of bruce lee's philosophy and many consider him the true father of mixed martial arts. I hold him as an role model for my progression in martial arts dispite the fact his main style was Wing Chun supplimented with techniques from muay thai, judo, wrestling and fencing which form the basis of Jeet Kun-Do, when I started with jujitsu and added muay thai and boxing. I have read the Tao of Jeet Kun-Do several times and the books never ceases to inspire with it's complete look at all aspects of the fight. It's also probably one of the better books of philosophy I have ever read.

It is important that we try to get away from this style or that, and we just do. As long as human beings only have 2 feet and 2 legs there is only one true style.

It seems insane to ignore the entirety of human learning and focus on one tiny iota forsaking all other ideas and in a sense making yourself into an idiot savant. To be absolutly sound in one small area still makes you an idiot in others.

At 12/10/09 05:02 PM, ArmouredGRIFFON wrote:

At 12/10/09 03:33 PM, escudo0 wrote:

Don't you think the way you can 'skip steps' might leave your technique abit more open to counter in more free flow kind of sparring? Not to be critical, but it has always seemed that the steps are there for a purpose, other than to get you and your opponant in certain situations.

A solid 75% of my training is open sparring and the results I get with my variation on rubber guard garners the same results as the one showed in the video. about 95% of the time in open sparring I found that the zombie position is just plain useless. Very rarely do someones arms end up on your chest, they usually end up outside or on mat already. Zomie is only needed if you intend to go for a submission such as a gogoplata or omaplata. if someones arm ends up inside I instinctivly go for the sweep to mount which is a much better position.

The foot on the hip isn't needed for me either because it is used to seperate your opponents hips off of yours, to keep distance, but it is easier for me to keep distance than most because of my exceptionally long legs. It is also easier for someone to pass your guard by pushing the leg between theirs giving up a much better position and it helps them retain their balence when going for a sweep or submission, rather than maintaing the leg wrapped around the back which is nearly impossible to pass and doesn't hinder my ability to do what I need to.

I think that martial arts isn't one specific group of techniques that MUST be done this way or the other. It is constantly evolving and changing and no two people fight exactly the same way because everyone is an individual. If my way works better for me than what I was taught than why fix something that isn't broken? I like my way because it is faster with no handicap that I have noticed, whereas the other way I have picked out several weaknesses. It takes longer, it becomes almost unrealistic in open sparring because against a live opponent who is constantly moving and shifting position speed is of the essence. I like my way, i have found it to be more effective, faster and with minnimal drawbacks so I will continue to use it because as far as I have seen it is better, Isn't that all that matters?

At 12/9/09 09:34 PM, Reaper93 wrote: If you're confident enough in your skills that you think you can teach them to a wide range of other people of varying skill levels then I say go for it, especially if you need the cash.

I have experience with solo training and training with maybe only one training partner, and I gotta say it's pretty hard not having a guy in charge who knows what he's doing because it's a lot of work figuring out proper interpretations, self-correcting form, and ironing out inefficiencies.

I actually prefer to self-learn rather than have someone else training me but I feel like my styles are easier to self teach than TKD. I like not having a master because in classes alot of the time they blanket teach. Teach everyone the same moves, but being 6'4 I can pull off thngs that other people cant with my long legs. For instance I can cut about 3 steps out of
Rubber Guard any jujitsu master would say I'm doing it wrong but I get the same results as any one else. Self training isn't a bad thing because you know your body better than any one else, and as long as you have at least a few sources to learn from It can do wonders.

NIce videos reaper. I have seen the vast majority of these moves and throws before in judo or jujitsu. though a lot of the more unorthodox ones can be countered with submissions. Maybe my stlye would get in the way of this because anytime I get behind someone rather than go for a throw I would instead hop on their back and get the hooks in and go for a rear naked choke. In jujitsu this is a far better option rather than have someone on the ground with you standing because most people will tend to lose their balence with so much weight on them (while attempting the choke) and you legs dug inside their groin, and when he falls you have back control and finish the choke. But this of course assumes unarmed combat. Add a knife and id throw everytime.

Interesting videos though. Nice mix of wrestling and Judo.

At 12/3/09 06:39 PM, dsmking wrote:

Well you know you don't really have to know how to "out dance them" or anything in order to beat a grappler. If you have been doing MA for a while you know very well all the possible angles for your body to move, you know what can hurt and what doesn't, you get a certain feel for things. Me personally I am no good at grappling. I practice it, i know it, but it is definitely not my fortay. I know though that if I hit someone in that spot or if I move my body this way to get out of it, that I will get out. Just because I'm in a hold doesn't mean I can't hit, and just because they are going for my arm doesn't mean I can't flip myself over, hell I can kick a guy in the face while I'm in an arm bar.

And your two weapons joke sucked....

Again my problem is not a great gappler. he is an extremly fast but mostly weak striker if we grappled he get tapped in about thirty seconds as he has almost no ground game. The problem is his speed, only his speed and footwork are my obsticles to beating him i can't clinch or land any significant damage because he is so goddamn fast. Keep in mind that our fight took place in what is basicly an open field so there is everywhere for him to run and i can't corner him he won't engage me for anymore than 2 beats before he gets out of my (being 6'4") rather massive reach. it's just he lunges with a jab either lands or gets blocked and he steps back out to about 5 feet. If I step forward he takes 2 or three back. He fights like Machida without out any of the power or ability. I attack if I can and am not put off by his speed or ability to counter but he just won't engage for any amount of time.

How should I approach this fast little fuck who can't hurt me and won't actually fight me? He is just damn frustrating.

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DKM
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At 12/2/09 10:41 PM, Reaper93 wrote: Well really it depends. The thing you have to consider is speed is directly proportional to momentum, but it is also quadratically proportional to energy - this makes speed, in my mind, at least as important as being able to put your mass behind blows.

Then again, as far as unarmed striking goes, I'm horribly unproficient. Ringen uses striking really only as a distraction to enable you to get a good grapple and throw on your opponent (some of its recommendations for strikes look more like something out of krav maga than karate). Then again, that was a system of wrestling developed in an era when it was more common than not to have a rather large knife on you at all times, meaning a thrown opponent was a dead opponent with no such luxury as 'groundfighting'.

That makes hand speed which he has but not to any great or unbeiveveable extent but it is his feet i'm worried about. He is a counter-pucher but his power is particularly great but his ability to get in and out and avoid shots is just aggrevating and that is what I need advice for. Ringen sounds quite interesting, like a more cutthroat version of Judo.

At 12/2/09 11:52 AM, ArmouredGRIFFON wrote:

At 12/1/09 06:20 AM, Reaper93 wrote: Well, a common human reaction to being uncomfortable is to laugh. Perhaps your reflexes extend to physical discomfort as well as mental discomfort.

Thats not exactly a direct reflex, that's more endorphins, and synaptic neurons I'd like to add; I'm pretty sure anyway. It'd take well over 10 years of conditioning to generate that reaction.

Am I the only Non Brazilian Jujitsu practitioner here? Also anybody who can get 'flash Ko'd', really needs to find a way to take more hits.

Also, speed isn't directly proportional to strength, its the momentum of the strike which counts.

A flash KO usually occours when you get clocked in the temple and your brain rattles against the inside of your skull. You lose balence and coordination for just a second untill your brain settles back into it's usual position. i've only been fully knocked out once by a guy who had 80 lbs on me and got me in a muay thai plum. Ive never really been hurt in sparring, only going full speed with people who are far more skilled than I.

The response to your speed question had nothing to do with what I waas talking about. He can't hit that hard, he just really elusive and i can't get a hand on him.

since it just seems to be the two of us in this little crew what styles do you use?

At 11/30/09 04:01 AM, Reaper93 wrote:
Depends how hard I get hit. I can laugh for a nice solid hit, but I got beaned in the head once pretty hard and almost fell over from it - neck hurt for three weeks! xD

anything short of a flash Ko will cause me to burst out laughing. But it's got to be just hard enough to trigger whatever the hell happens to me and I just crack up. It's kind of inconvenient in a fight but people find it intimidating and call me insane. So I guess it's okay with me.