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At 12/10/04 11:06 PM, ShadowsFall wrote: Heres something you guys will never understand- with your ideas right now you are fucking scum- your opinions are flaud. Wake up to the world and stop following fashionable opinions like socialism. Wake up to reality- Use your eyes. Your brain washed by the media. Wake up- I wont judge you. Awake!

First off, I follow myself.
Second, I'm feeling rather sleepy right now so I'd rather not be awake for another 12 hours. G'nite.

At 12/10/04 11:24 PM, TheShrike wrote:

At 12/10/04 09:55 PM, IllustriousPotentate wrote: http://zeroonezeroone.ytmnd.com/

That has got to be the worst looping .GIF I've ever seen.

I dunno. I'm intrigued by perpetuity.

Dis be a loppin gizzif, yo~

Very intriguing.

And jes because I feel like it... STAPLER!

o.O wtf mayte?

In other news: I was playing through Paper Mario 2 a couple days back and a character showed up that made me think of someone from this forum. The name is Mowz... Miss Mowz.

At 12/9/04 10:21 PM, Hermannator wrote: If we have so much cash, why are we 7 trillion dollars in debt?

Statistical data from a reliable source plz?

At 12/9/04 10:40 PM, Rooster349 wrote: You're a good man, Maus. Thank you.

*Chuckles* *sees Rooster's sig and what he said to Maus* *Chuckles s'more...*

At 12/10/04 05:51 AM, ShadowsFall wrote: I was not trying to make an argument that time- I was drunk and that was the first thing that came into my head. The way I see it is that there will always be idiots like you that are afriad of any aggressive action even if its in there best interest that it occurs.

Ah I excuse your dunken-ness if that is the case. It appears that you are still drunk though, because you're still trying to in-validate my argument by calling me an idiot and continuing to use that same damn fallacy. You are also misinterpreting what I've said in the past posts in this thread. I never said that we shouldn't take any action or that I'm "afraid of any aggressive action" as you stated above. What I've been saying and will continue to say is that other actions should be taken (such as diplomacy or compromise) before we decide that force is the only way. It's the kind of shoot-first-ask-questions-last attitude that makes our country (the U.S.) seem idiotic and brute, as if we can't settle our issues in a civilized manner before resorting to violence.

What makes me sick is first you guys side with the terrorist then next you choose to belittle actions that needed to be done in the second world war. I will say this about a world war- Ive said this before in a previous topic- In a world war because of the scale of the fighting extreme measures must be taken in order for one side to win. My Grandad fought in that war, yours probably did too- have a little respect will you.

Who says I sided with the terrorrists? I'm sure they have a cause, but I would hardly consider that "siding" with them. The closes I come to "siding" is sympathy, I know they have it rough, but that shouldn't suggest that they should capture innocent people and decapitate them. I don't belittle the valiant efforts of the U.S. troops that got shot down on Normandie Beach, or the ones that suffered loss at Pearl Harbor, what I do look down on is the use of two nuclear bombs, one on a small fishing town (Hiroshima), as a means to justify revenge. Wouldn't you say two nukes on such a country is "overkill" in a sense?

You also said that "In a world war because of the scale of the fighting extreme measures must be taken in order for one side to win" I agree that drastic measures do have to be taken in some cases, however, I do not think we are in a world war right now. Right now we are at war with two3rd world middle-eastern countries (Iraq & Afghanistan) that couldn't hold a candle to the U.S. if their lives depended on it. In the case of a world war (such as II) we were at war with a colossal chunk of a conquered Europe, and an advanced eastern country. Clearly you see that there is a difference between the two circumstances, correct?

As for your Grandfather, I respect him putting his life on the line out there at such a dangerous time. My grandfather, however, did not go to war, for he was not even here at the time, he was working the fields in Mexico harvesting crops to keep his family alive on whatever the harvest brought and whatever livestock he had. I am not of American blood, if you were thinking that by suggesting that my g-dad probably went to war too. This is out of the topic though, what deals with the issue are the three replies above that I have written.

I have a burning question. Is human selection (such as genetic manipulation/enhancement) a better means of advancement than that of Natural Selection? If so by what means, or by what means wouldn't it be?

*Dumbs the question down a notch* Is the work of humans superior to the work of nature? Is it every time? Sometimes? Never? And how so?

At 12/10/04 05:42 AM, BeFell wrote: It's ok I was just pissed off at my computer really.

Yeah I used to get like that a lot... about four years ago when I had my sofaking we todd did (read it slowly) 100 MHZ computer and Net Zero as my IP @.@ Gosh it was horrible. So slow...

Fortunately the autosave thingy saved most of it. Since I'm approaching a catastrpophic system failure I decided to email it to myself so I can open it in a computer lab just in case.

Cool, I was about to say, something's awfully wrong if you're not saving your work. I've learned the value of saving my work when it comes to videogames, and homework I save every chance I get. I wish life were that way, I'd have re-loaded so many times by now... but I'd be powerful... *drifts into dreams of megalomania*.

Either post or send me a picture and you'll get your bear suit.=)

Nah I'll keep my abominable face hidden fur now. Thanks though.

At 12/9/04 06:10 PM, ShadowsFall wrote:

At 12/9/04 03:54 PM, EnragedSephiroth wrote: </sarcasm>

God you make me sick- if the world was populated wholely with spineless fools like yourself, I would be the first to push the big red button that sparks nuclear armagedon. Thankfully the world still has some sense of pride so the voice of reason still has a chance of prevailing.

So what type of argument are you trying to make? Because you clearly haven't said anything other than I'm (me) a "spineless fool," which is plainly an Ad Hominem attack (fallacy/mistake), which goes to show that your argument is a whole lot weaker than my backbone as you suggest. Before you say something you might want to consider making a point before you open the gaping maggot-infested JackDaniels-regurgitating hole in your face that you call your mouth.

At 12/9/04 07:57 PM, Soul_Chamber wrote:

At 12/9/04 04:23 PM, EnragedSephiroth wrote:

You could be a threat for all we know, you might not even know it and you could be a threat pre-cognitively, that's exactly the kind of reasoning the U.S. used to invade Iraq.

Ah, the ol "you could be a threat" statement.

Ah the ol "they could've been a threat" statement (coming from you).

Faulty intelligence? Hello?

Wait, i thought to you, (democrats in general) saying "faulty intelligence" was a poor excuse?

It wasn't an excuse, it was a reason (amongst others). I don't speak for the democratic party, I speak for myself, I don't care what they say.

And did you realize that Bush gave saddam 48 hours to leave or else we'd go to war?

It still gives him the glory to look like a big-time hero in front of the Saudis.

Even John Kerry was misinformed, that's why when he found out the intelligence was wrong, he (and Bush) changed his mind, can you blame the guy?

So, it wouldve been better for us to sit here and wait and risk saddam and/or terrorists getting hold of WMDs?

Don't give me a straw-man fallacy, I never said that. Let me state my point on that matter. The U.S. should have pursued diplomatic solutions rather than war. War is supposed to be considered a last resort, unless there's an iminent threat, but there was no iminent threat. >.<

At 12/10/04 01:14 AM, spanishfli wrote: Goddamn fucking Christmas tree won't stand up straight! Always cocked to a side, I'm so hating the season so far...

Yeah I had that problem with my artificial optic fiber tree. It turns out the top segment (comes in 3 segments) was at fault, I had to bend it slightly to one side so it would straighten out, plus the star was pretty heavy on the top so I had to place it very gently and make sure it doesn't topple sideways.

At 12/10/04 03:47 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: thank god for a thick tree so that we could discreetly tie it to the wall.

Coming from an urban ghetto, I have to say... that's pretty ghetto.

In other news:
ferociousdanny (1:41:30 AM): So is there any escaping your bear-suit madness?
fell6389 (1:42:38 AM): you son of a bitch your IM caused an error and made me lose three pages that I have been working on
fell6389 (1:42:55 AM): and I can't see your reply because my aim is fucked up too
fell6389 (1:45:55 AM): *** This user has signed off and is no longer online ***
fell6389 (2:10:36 AM): *** This user has signed on and is now online ***
ferociousdanny (2:10:58 AM): *deletes your work again?*
fell6389 (2:11:01 AM): *** This user has signed off and is no longer online ***

I'm sorry BeFell :( It wasn't my intention... really... *hides plans to foil the republican party.*

At 12/9/04 07:30 PM, Maus wrote: I'm sure many of you heard about the shooting in Columbus Ohio. One of the kids I grew up with was one of the victims. I just found out he was one of them when a friend called.

RIP Erin. At least you were rocking out 'til the end. :'(

You mean the shotting at the Damage Plan concert? I woke up this morning to the news on the radio station about that -.- I couldn't believe it. I'm sorry Maus.

At 12/9/04 03:56 PM, -Michael- wrote: or.. David Allison Green

No :/ that's not who it is. It has to be the DAG. They even invaded my room x.x

At 12/7/04 04:21 PM, ReiperX wrote: a lot of the soldiers in Iraq are treating the Iraqi civillians that are helping the soldiers fairly poorly <seen quite a few home videos from Iraq from people that were in my Batallion>. Things ranging from annoying the Iraqis to destroyign their property on purpose to get a cheap laugh. And these are the normal civillians, these aren't the insurgents, these are the Iraqis that are working with the US as translators, guides, serving food to them and such. Its pretty messed up.

Such evidence once again proves the age-old statement true: "There are idiots everywhere." That shouldn't suggest that there are some nice and kind-hearted soldiers out there that want to make a difference for a better tomorrow and clean the U.S.'s name in the eyes of Iraq, but the kind of people that do stuff like destroy other's property need to be prosecuted like if they were committing that crime in the U.S.

At 12/7/04 09:29 PM, bcdemon wrote: I wonder, Jim, are you from that same planet GW is from, cuz you two seem to think alike. no matter how much evidence is raining down on you, you still say Iraq is doing well.

That's Jim for you; more tenacious than Gooie.

At 12/7/04 10:00 PM, Soul_Chamber wrote:

At 12/7/04 09:47 PM, zeppelin_man wrote:

:: : We have killed children. We have innocent blood on our hands, and theres no point denying it.

So the blood on terrorists hands dont matter?

Hold up. That statement seems to drag us down to the same moral level as terrorrists. That's not right. You should know by now, two wrongs don't make a right. This isn't algebra.

At 12/8/04 07:04 PM, Soul_Chamber wrote:

At 12/8/04 07:01 PM, AngryToaster wrote:

We shouldn't have gone to Iraq in the first place. Some idiot in the White House who choked on a pretzel thought Iraq was a threat when they weren't.

Iraq couldve been a threat. Iraq has been known to hide terrorists. And i suppose you want someone who thinks he invented the internet?

Al Gore will not be running again. As for your statement on Iraq. You could be a threat for all we know, you might not even know it and you could be a threat pre-cognitively, that's exactly the kind of reasoning the U.S. used to invade Iraq.

At 12/8/04 07:09 PM, NotYouZ wrote:

At 12/8/04 07:04 PM, Soul_Chamber wrote: Iraq couldve been a threat.

Anything could potentially be a threat.

I stand by my statement.

At 12/8/04 06:16 PM, zeppelin_man wrote: Ka ching on oil, baby.

Basically that's what the U.S. wants in the long run. Since Iraq borders the Saudi Arabian border, and the Saudis control a vast ammount of U.S. oil, originally the U.S. wanted to look like big-time heroes in front of the eyes of the Saudis. What the U.S. did was encourage Iraq to invade Kuwait (over a decade ago when George Bush senior and Saddam Hussein were best of pals and we gave Iraq weapons). When Iraq did "invade" Kuwait, the U.S. immediately countered so they'd look like they saved the Saudis' asses. All George W. Bush Jr. is doing is finishing daddy's business in trying to be good friends with the Saudis.

At 12/9/04 03:22 PM, Soul_Chamber wrote:

At 12/9/04 06:38 AM, AngryToaster wrote:

The key words there are COULD'VE

Of course, why would we be there if they absolutely werent?

Faulty intelligence? Hello? Bush admitted a couple months ago that they didn't have enough tangible evidence for going to Iraq, except for suspicion, and suspicion does not fall under the category of tangible! >.< Even John Kerry was misinformed, that's why when he found out the intelligence was wrong, he (and Bush) changed his mind, can you blame the guy?

At 12/7/04 03:46 PM, cheshirepus wrote:

:: Really though, I think Americans have adopted a "we're god's gift to the world attitude" and that they're going to bring freedom to everyone whether they like it or not.

I don't imagine that kind of mindset would strike the rest of the world in a very friendly manner.

What's even worse about such a mindset is that a large amount of Americans (at least that I've seen) don't seem to care what the world thinks of the U.S. It's kind of strange to me how the U.S. wasnts to act like the world's watchdog, yet it doesn't care all that much about who it's watching over... doesn't that seem strange to anyone else?

At 12/7/04 12:30 PM, stevenherman wrote: I’m going to put the Toby Keith thing to rest.

Good, it was due time Steve.

Here are the lyrics from “Courtousy of the red, white and blue”.

In the first stanza Mr. Keith sings about the brave men who died so we can sleep in peace at night. That’s hardly being a violent stuck up pig.

I agree.

In the second stanza he sings about how his father, of whom he is proud, wanted his family to grow up and live happy in the land of the free. Violent stuck up pig? I think not.

Likewise.

The rest of the song is about how we were “sucker punched” and given “a black eye”. I do believe jet planes flying into buildings, sending thousands of innocent civilians to violent, untimely deaths is more than a “sucker punch”.

We were hit by surprise, that's true.

What do you think we should have done about it? Cower in fear as a european country would do (see Spain) ? Or do we get off the canvas and put “a boot” in someone terrorist ass. We did it after pearl harbor and we did it again here. We got rid of the Taliban and there hasn’t been another attack on our soil since. Three cheers for the boot.

Yep, we sure did it well in Pearl Harbor, so well in fact that we dropped 2 nukes on a country and covered a region in radiation, cancer, disease and pestilence for a good few years, that's a lot better than what happened in Pearl Harbor, right? No we didn't over-do it, no way, no how.
</sarcasm>
Mr. Keith seems to over-state the meaning of the boot, making it seem as if we'd be willing to kick the whole world's ass. What matters here is American's image in front of the rest of the world, or do you think it doesn't matter? It's good that the U.S. would be willing to respond quickly to an attack, however, the manner in which we responded was rather pathetic. I don't blame the U.S. for going after the Taliban, they damn well deserved it, going after Iraq was pointless though. It's like if they said "hey while we're in the neighborhood we might as well force our policy of government on a neighboring country!"

When a nation gets sucker punched, as our beloved country did, a reciprocal “boot in the ass” is a good thing. It’s called self defense.

Yes but you don't boot a country that you used to side with, namely Iraq. You especially don't boot when you encourage the country to do things (like invading Kuwait) and then turn your back on them.

“Courtousy of the red, white and blue” is about how we got attacked and how we don’t stand for that kind of thing. Not in 1941, not now, not ever. Is that considered being an “overly patriotic” violent stuck up pig?

Not at all. It is violent and stuck up when you only care about yourself though.

To you, prehaps.

Like I said above.

And just for the record, the term“overly patriotic” is a liberal concept. To the millions and millions of Americans who love their country (They would be called, I don’t know, Conservatives?) there is no such thing as “overly patriotic”.

Then why are we using the word with such frequency? There is such a thing, it's been defined. If you're too lazy to browse the topic to see what it means: when a person is too proud over their country to the point that they don't care if they hurt anyone else so long as their country isn't hurt. A good example of being overly-patriotic would be soccer fans. I don't know how you say that there isn't such a thing as being overly-patriotic when soccer fans kick each other's asses all the time over the pride they have over their country. That's the kind of attitude I don't want to see the U.S. develop towards other countries.

Yet , you think you know better and go on to call people who love their country nasty names.

No, I love my country. I call the people who over-step their boundaries and hurt others in the name of their country's pride, nasty names.

Maybe you’re an arrogant, UNDERLY patriotic stuck up pig and ill informed to boot (pun intended).

Damn that's so funny I forgot to laugh, and then I remembered, but didn't feel like it for some strange reason.

Here’s the lyrics to “Brought to you by the red white and blue”. Are they so controversial?

K that's nice and all Mr. Herman. that's how patriotism is done right, not like soccer fans do or Mr. Keith does it by kicking ass before asking questions.

Signs of the DAG have been showing up in my school >.> I wonder who made them. Just take a look at this desk if you don't believe me.

Yet another large post, addressing multiple people. I should never leave for two days -.-

At 12/7/04 08:52 AM, FatherVenom wrote:

At 12/7/04 07:56 AM, EnragedSephiroth wrote: Actually I recieved it today ^>^ I'm now waiting on the black shirt.

OMG! I got black too!

OMG REALLY! *Jumps up and down, giddy* :/ nice, I got mine today >:D

making my culture look retarded-er (in some ways).

Yes you certainly are.

Likewise?

I was commenting on your use of "retarded-er".

That's why I added the question mark bro, just in case you meant that.

At 12/7/04 03:22 PM, spanishfli wrote: Best. Locked. Thread. Ever..

"bandwagon-jumping gloat monkey" Man that's rich.

At 12/7/04 06:10 PM, EvilGovernmentAgents wrote: And usually poor quality. I never listen to songs for simply the lyrics. That's why I love video game music.

Nobuo Uematsu, Motoi Sakuraba, Yasunori Mitsuda just can't be topped.

At 12/8/04 03:10 AM, FatherVenom wrote: Ok, so we're third gen. There's the pre-club gen, the post-club gen, then there's us, and after that it's the new people like spanish, sephiroth, ursa, and so forth.

Why is my name in there? >.> I thought I was just like... a fly that buzzes by a room and comes n' goes. Keep in mind I said a fly not a fli. Now I feel a bit special... just a lil' bit.

LOL! Finally piconjo flashes are actually getting blammed. Now if only the Star Syndicate would clean up their act.

Holy crap. About damn time. Now only if that would happen to some of those shitty clock movies.

As for your review ban. Ask an admin?

At 12/8/04 09:26 AM, FatherVenom wrote: About the dog getting sprayed by the skunk (not the RedSkunk) and all sorts of other mistakes dogs make.

See, that's why I'm a cat person. <3 teh pussy.

At 12/8/04 02:20 PM, EvilGovernmentAgents wrote: Shhhhh! Pandas!

Now now, don't start picture-spamming like I did when I discovered how to do that (a couple weeks after I started posting, mind you) with my pic of Fidel Castro's faceplant on the floor, Neo Contra in reference to Funk

At 12/8/04 06:09 PM, NotYouZ wrote:

At 12/8/04 06:09 PM, Mr_Biggles wrote: I consider Gooie a friend. Sometimes friends act like idiots and need to be bitchslapped.

That's because your a jackass.

*Friendly jab* no It's because he's a fastidious Republican conservative that has a bear-suit fetish.

At 12/8/04 07:00 PM, ursamajour wrote: It was yesterday, I believe, in Iraq. One of the troops ambushed him with a question about why they're risking their lives with faulty or inadequate equipment... They're going to show it on NBC Nightly News in a moment.

Holy shit dude that was creepy. I'm sitting here reading the words "Donald Rumsfeld" and all of a sudden I hear the name "Donald Rumsfeld" come from the TV on the spanish news chanel my parents watch. Dude I got up and hollered out loud laughing at the coincidence.

At 12/8/04 08:23 PM, spanishfli wrote: I could do so much with that pic, but I won't risk being banned due to my imagination.

See, now that's why I won't submit a pic with my mouth open or with my hand holding anything.

At 12/8/04 11:16 PM, TheShrike wrote: You could just try being yourself.

It doesn't work anywhere else for me, or with girls, why would it work here? Well the girls part is probably because most of them are taken -.- damn quick-moving sly bastards.

At 12/8/04 11:23 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: Or eating lots of prunes.

I'd go with the prunes, if I were you.

Wait but wouldn't that make you have... oh, n/m. Just watch out for the tub-girl effect is the only advice I can give.

At 12/8/04 10:01 PM, Mason_Clock wrote: Some stuff.

Wow, a clock trying to sound smart... and failing horribly.

At 7/26/04 05:36 AM, OrangeClock wrote: MY LOYAL SUBJECTS I HAVE RETURNED

Orange Clock? Strawberry Clock? Clock Crew? Sounds more like Cock crew. What's with the shitty Honey Roasted Peanut animation? Don't tell me you happen to have an insaciable obsession with nuts as well. Loved your response to my review btw.

At 12/7/04 01:17 AM, FatherVenom wrote:

At 12/6/04 07:27 PM, EnragedSephiroth wrote: Still waiting on mine... and my copy of AH.

Meanwhile, I've already beaten the game.

Actually I recieved it today ^>^ I'm now waiting on the black shirt.

making my culture look retarded-er (in some ways).

Yes you certainly are.

Likewise?

At 12/7/04 02:24 AM, ursamajour wrote: I don't wear the bear suit. I am the bear suit.

Wait a sec... If you had a child... would you call it Ursa Minor?

At 12/7/04 12:25 AM, Mr_Biggles wrote: I had to let out this suit a little.=)

O.O everything's starting to look like a freakin' Ewok!

Quick BeFell put a suit on this character!

At 12/6/04 09:57 PM, stevezarebski wrote: Wade you guys should have a warning system set up to crack down on people who create mass accounts and break other rules

*Coughpiconjocough*

At 12/5/04 07:55 PM, ShadowsFall wrote: Your the one that brought up music in the first place- I was just putting your ideas about music into perspective. Since I find it quite funny when liberals like you will pick on anyone white that sings something that is deemed silightly controversial. While the real problem with music is that there are far more gangster rappers condoning despicable acts- these facts you remain silient about.

Again you went off-topic. Not only do you have a fallacy of equivocation (in which you misinterpret a preson's words) but you also have a straw-man fallacy, one in which you say that I remain silent about rappers trying to make it sounds as if that issue is ok with me when in fact I haven't even said anything about it. The reason I haven't said (and this is all I will say) about rappers is because they don't get patriotic (or at least not nearly as patriotic) as them country folks, k? We're talking about patriotism not violence, weed, hoes, or bling bling.

Rappers with lyrics that are nothing short of influencing the distruction of any moral fiber me might have left in our countries. Ironically these are the very people that are selling the most records in the music industry therefore they have influence over millions of dedidcated fans. Strange that they are so readily accepted into the main stream? Just a sign of how bad things have become. Its money before morals these days.

It does suck that they make so much money (especially the ones with no talent like Nelly and Lil' John) but their influence has next-to-nothing to do with being patriotic. The influence rappers have on their listeners is more of a cultulral or lifestyle influence not an influence about their nation or politics, although one could narrowly argue that this somehow vicariously affects patriotism, but that would be a very far-fetched argument because of the distant relationship between the two.

These are the people selling the most music- not the controversial rock or metal groups. Do the maths- therefore these people must equal more of a danger to society.

Talking about patriotism not menaces to society. If you want to discuss a different issue, make a thread about it and I'll be glad to engage you in it.

P.S. I do feel this has got everything to do with patriotism, because if you had any respect left for your country you would be doing everthing in your power to build resistance against scum like that.

Different strokes for different folks.

At 12/6/04 06:44 PM, Mr_Biggles wrote: OMG TEH SECKSAY

I think Spanishfli would agree with you there when he sees my pic... maybe.

At 12/6/04 03:44 PM, FatherVenom wrote: My NG t-shirt came in today. I like it a lot.

Still waiting on mine... and my copy of AH.

At 12/6/04 12:05 AM, -Wraith- wrote: *Pokes small holes in aluminum foil and stick it in the core over the pen*

That's my method.

Enhaling the aliminum particles could give you a bad case of lead in your lungs... which isn't a good thing.

At 12/5/04 04:27 PM, ursamajour wrote: I love to find the gems among the piles of churned-out Flash shittiness.

*Puts on some rubber gloves as he makes his way towards the portal*

At 12/4/04 11:59 PM, TheShrike wrote: All your syntax are belong to suck.

What?

Make your time. Er... I mean... make you posts intelligent, that's what.

At 12/4/04 03:31 PM, LadyGrace wrote: Ok, I have a question. What the hell is Takeshi's Castle about? I always wanted to know. I know MXC is the most awesome show to come out of awesome, but I have no idea the point of Takeshi's Castle. I asked Jossos once because she lives in Japan, but she never watched the show. Is there any specific plot to the show? Are the obstacles part of the "castle?" What?!?!

Ah dinnae know >.< But what I do know is that the Spanish/Mexican/Central-American rip-offs of english/american reality TV shows like FearFactor, Blind Date, & Jerry Springer are pissing me the fuck off and making my culture look retarded-er (in some ways).

At 12/6/04 06:55 PM, -Lazy- wrote: MTRushmore!!

Wow... truly lazy.

I just made some minor adjustments on mine. I added a little unibrow, and a little stache here n' there so he can look a bit more like Spanishfli. They'll be so cute together ^>^

At 12/4/04 07:33 AM, Blackmagic wrote: I just had to quote this since it sums up for me everything I feel about present day America.

Like I said, there's nothing essentially wrong with being proud about your country, so long as you don't try to put down or undermine the countries of others in the process.

At 12/3/04 10:52 AM, IllustriousPotentate wrote:

Couldn't someone add like an extra minute to every hour so that the hour is 61 minutes?

No, that would make the year a little over 371 days.

>:/ k I didn't feel like doing the math.

At 12/2/04 08:57 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:

At 12/2/04 08:47 PM, EnragedSephiroth wrote: The number one thing that I think is hurting the U.S. currently is it's international ties.

B fucking S dude. The biggest problem by far is economics. These include trade defecit, debt of all sorts, Asia proping up dollar, impending SS, Medicare, Medicade problem among other things. Number two is fundamentalist terrorists hating America. And this has little to do with international ties. If we had super alliances there would still be terrorists. We just need to wean ourselves from oil. But hell, thatll never happen because fuck, that would be thinking forward and ignoring the oil lobby, which will never happen no matter who is President.

If I were to draw out your argument like a graph, it wouldn't make any sense, not to mention, it's invalid because not all of your premises support your conclusion(s).

I will show you how you just proved me right, by showing that economics is causing the U.S. problems, due to bad international ties.

The trade deficit: Wasn't it just posted in this topic (in the beginning) that many countries are now reluctant to trade with the U.S? Isn't that because of bad ties? It certainly isn't because we're their best friends, I'll tell you that much.

Terrorism: The number one reason terrorist leaders hate us, is because we wrecked their countries. You can hear Osama Bin Laden's recordings, and other terrorist leaders telling the U.S. to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan. How did we mess up their countries? With sanctions and cutting off their vital supplies such as medicine and some foods. Why did we take such things away from them and limit their trades with other countries? It isn't because we have strong ties with them, that's for sure.

"If we had super alliances there would still be terrorists." This is a very questionable basic premise, I don't know where you got it from, and frankly I don't care, all I know is it puts a massive dent in your argument.

"We need to wean ourselves from oil" yes, very true, I agree with you, I think the oil issue is what has screwed up our international ties with middle-eastern countries, and one of the main reasons terrorists hate us so much presently.

Of course, I'm not saying that I'm right in this argument either (at least not absolutely right, but perhaps partialy) because there is more than one way to skin a cat, in other words, there's more than one way to fix things.

At 12/3/04 10:40 PM, AntiangelicAngel wrote: Well a teacher was suspended for displaying anti-bush student artwork on her classroom wall. A guidance councelor was fired as a poster in her office wasn't sufficiently pro war. I laugh because part of this is the exact opposite. You support your country... you get in trouble. You don't support your country, ditto.

I don't get tired of saying this: There are idiots everywhere: in the workplace, in school, on the street, even in here <.< *leaves*.

At 12/3/04 12:37 PM, stevenherman wrote: Does rap music have a higher percentage of “songs” based on racism, criminality, misogyny and glorified drug use than any other musical venue?

Draw your own conclusion.

You don't need to draw your own conclusion, you can just research lyrical content. Given that you have the time and patience and browsing speed of course.

May god have mercy on their souls.

Maybe there’s something to be said for the theory of “a lot”.

Merry Christmas.

You're going off-topic. The question here isn't about rappers and drugs, it's about patriotism being a "good" thing (good according to the currently-set moral standard of the majority of society) or a "bad" thing (bad, set by similar standards as good). I brought up Toby Keith being overly-patriotic in some of his songs and making the U.S. look rather rude in the eyes of the world, ShadowsFall brought up an off-topic suggestion about rappers, Maus branched out ShadowsFall's suggestion with her own about rockers, and then you proceeded to shoot off your mouth, go on a must-kill-Maus rampage, and really just carry this topic way out of its main idea. Gang violence, lyrical content and suicide have nothing to do with patriotism. Let's get back to the main point, please.

Patriotism: good or bad, and by what degree?

At 12/2/04 11:46 PM, BeFell wrote: A couple of months after I got Game Boy color the bastards came out with GB Advance, and now this new shit. Fuck em.

Feeling capitalism at its worse (not at its best) breathing down your neck? Nasty huh? I'll stick to my GB SP. The thing (things rather) that I hate about the new DS is that, it has Mario 64 (and other 3D games) yet is comes with no analog, in other words, you have to play mario 64 with the D-pad... nuff said.

Next: The DS doesn't have GC-hookup capabilities (yet) like the GBA & SP do.

Also: The DS doesn't play original Gameboy Games, like Metroid 2, or Marioland, so if I may give you a word of advice: keep your GB if you get the DS.

The only good thing: You can play with multiple other DS's with wireless technology, that is all.