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Apparently this doesn't deserve its own thread.
I actually have very little idea what is going on with all the "Occupy Wall Street" protests going on in the country, but what has really intrigued me is how much energy has gone into the protests vs. how little the protested against seem to be responding. There is certainly a disconnect between what the protesters deem to be "the two sides".
There is something very appealing about watching a protracted argument between large groups of people in which neither side understands the other. It becomes a waste of time for all involved. The protestors, the protested, and those who take interest.
But I think this concept has amazing potential as satire and for revealing irony. Think about it. These protests are not so different from The Daily Show's March to Restore Sanity. The people who are attending/attended such events were not unified in message, albeit the latter was more tongue-in-cheek.
Eventually, the March to Restore Sanity did reveal its message about the hyperbolic role the media plays, but the message eventually died soon there after. The failure of both protests is that they did not cause disruption. Many businesses are unaffected by "Occupy Wall Street" because they are not located on Wall Street. The March was held peacefully in a Mall for three hours. Not disruptive at all.
Wouldn't it be brilliant if a prolonged mass protest commenced where its attendees did not know or would not tell what they were truly protesting. If they disrupted the flow of business, they would attract the attention of America, consuming it like a black hole.
The media, politicians, Wall Street, all the important facets of our country would be fixated on this useless event. The end result is a a modern-day Modest Proposal.
1. By covering the news of a protest without a cause for hours on end, the irony of the media would be revealed. The Media is supposed to show us what's important, what we should care about, but instead gets absorbed in the hype of "no directionness".
2. The protests could symbolize the meaningless disconnect between the two parties in Washington, a disconnect that threatens the stability of our country on a daily basis.
3. Really there arn't just three applications of this use of irony. I bet your could name more.
What do you guys think?
I just made a thread based on this thread.
Basically, the reason there is no media coverage is because the media doesn't want to cover it. It represents something they don't like to cover. A protest with an ununified message. There is no question what the general push of the protest is, but that generality is so simple-minded that the media has to interpret it in a way that doesn't sound obtuse on air.
And that's exactly why the protests have inspired discussion about police brutality. It's because the gist of the actual protest (because it is not causing an effective disruption) is too vague. The police brutality is important to highlight, but in the end it's the media's ploy to distract you from the fact that what it is covering is meaningless.
My topic heading might be a little confusing. I actually have very little idea what is going on with all the "Occupy Wall Street" protests going on in the country, but what has really intrigued me is how much energy has gone into the protests vs. how little the protested against seem to be responding. There is certainly a disconnect between what the protesters deem to be "the two sides".
There is something very appealing about watching a protracted argument between large groups of people in which neither side understands the other. It becomes a waste of time for all involved. The protestors, the protested, and those who take interest.
But I think this concept has amazing potential as satire and for revealing irony. Think about it. These protests are not so different from The Daily Show's March to Restore Sanity. The people who are attending/attended such events were not unified in message, albeit the latter was more tongue-in-cheek.
Eventually, the March to Restore Sanity did reveal its message about the hyperbolic role the media plays, but the message eventually died soon there after. The failure of both protests is that they did not cause disruption. Many businesses are unaffected by "Occupy Wall Street" because they are not located on Wall Street. The March was held peacefully in a Mall for three hours. Not disruptive at all.
Wouldn't it be brilliant if a prolonged mass protest commenced where its attendees did not know or would not tell what they were truly protesting. If they disrupted the flow of business, they would attract the attention of America, consuming it like a black hole.
The media, politicians, Wall Street, all the important facets of our country would be fixated on this useless event. The end result is a a modern-day Modest Proposal.
1. By covering the news of a protest without a cause for hours on end, the irony of the media would be revealed. The Media is supposed to show us what's important, what we should care about, but instead gets absorbed in the hype of "no directionness".
2. The protests could symbolize the meaningless disconnect between the two parties in Washington, a disconnect that threatens the stability of our country on a daily basis.
3. Really there arn't just three applications of this use of irony. I bet your could name more.
What do you guys think?
At 10/3/11 06:09 PM, Sorlin wrote: I have the urge to write but only time will tell if this is a merely a passing muse or a potential project.
Basically, the story right now is a medieval story (cannot think of a title). The only continent left in the world that survived the Almighty's wrath two thousand years ago, Reduniri, is at war. Malladeos, a crumbling and bloated democracy, has been tricked with false intelligence of a planned attack on the Seven Tribes, whom they have an alliance with, and launched a preemptive assault on Germanea, a militaristic constitutional monarchy/meritocracy, while Namorcias, a wealthy isolationist theocracy/plutocracy that controls 48% of Reduniri, remains neutral.
Damon Reed, a young 26 year old Germanean tactician and right hand man of the Emperor, flees for a small farming village near a Dacaen tribe with the sum of money he received for his plan to escape responsibility for his actions in starting the war and spends his life training a small village militia and living the good life. On the day in which the treaty between the village and the Dacae tribes is to be signed, he meets a half-Dacaen woman named Alisha leading a small troop of some of their best warriors and befriends her. However, the homeland of the Dacaen tribe is wiped out by Germanean troops and the village is swiftly visited and threatened for being under suspicion of aiding the Malladean Army and are told to either surrender their weapons and land or die. While the village mayor accepts surrender, the Dacaen forces launch a surprise attack for retribution, starting a scuffle that leads to the deaths of many villagers. With Damon's knowledge of Germanea's tactics and Alisha's leadership and skills, they kill off the Germanean troops at a price: Damon's identity is compromised when Alisha spares a rookie to tell the story despite Damon's demands that she kill him. Soon, the Germanean Army posts a bounty on Damon and Alisha's heads and they, together with a small troop of militiamen and Dacaen warriors, become caught in the middle of the Holy War.
What are your thoughts? Suggestions for improvement? Or must you need more imformation before you can make a judgement? If so, I can do my best. Just ask questions and I'll answer them the best I can. It'll help develop the story.
Also, any suggestions for a title?
I think the story idea is really cool but plot-wise I'm not sure where you plan to begin. How did he "start the war"? Will you begin after years of training the village? While he flees? Personally, I'd love to see an exchange between the emperor and Damon where the emperor ends shoving a sack of gold into Damon's hands, telling him to abandon all hope.
The Germanea attack seems like a good place for a villain archtype if any is planned. I love how news reaches the village first that the Daecaens no longer have a home to return to before the Germanea troops come. It's a shocking introduction to the enemy and terrifying at the same time because not only did they come out of nowhere, but they're conquering the land incredibly fast.
I would definitely move ahead with this idea. It's really cool. I really like the ending you've got there. Note: That's not a satisfying ending unless you're planning on writing a sequel.
Question:
Why does Alisha spare the rookie? Basically this is a question about her personality versus her leadership skills.
Damon and the Dacaens are on the defensive right? But sparing your opponent is usually seen as an aggressive tactic. But if Alisha is the great leader, then she would recognize the need to kill every Germanea soldier, she wouldn't let pity get the best of her. Can you find a way to explain this? Like maybe she sends the rookie back as a messenger with the message that the death of the the Germanea troops was in self-defense and that Dacae has nothing to do with Mallaedos. Like maybe she hasn't come to grips that Dacae has been destroyed and Germanea won't give a shit about her call for diplomacy. Just a thought.
I normally don't get interested in Medieval-setting stories because the plots are so convoluted but this seems simple enough, with potential for pretty deep characters.
A helpful writing exercise for any short story.
1. Summarize plot in 300 words or less. Include three major plot points, preferably one from the beginning, middle, and end.
2. List all main characters. Write their back story. Describe their motivations, feelings, pathologies, etc.
3. Write a sequence of dialogue each between two of the characters until each character has communicated with every other character, even if they don't speak to each other in the actual story. If two characters only had two minutes to communicate to each other, what would be said? I'm particularly interested in how you tackle the mute girl's dialogue.
Other suggestions: The small plot summary you've provided heavily suggests there is more to your main character's motivation than this. He might be trying to provide for the mute girl, but is he trying get her to fall for him? Is this purely a maternal instinct? These two options give you the opportunity to create a truly pathological character.
Uncharted 3 subway promo has meant no trophies this time around
I saw that ad and was like "TEH WOHLD IZ SAVED, RIGHT GUIZE!?"
Just to throw in a dissenting opinion. This is one of my favorite games on the PSN. Perhaps it was because the concept seemed so fresh, but for me, it was all over way too quickly. I loved the spontaneity of each world, the realism of having every action having a game-changing effect, where dropping lava to build a levy against a tsunami can spark a fire that destroys your town anyway. The battle of God vs. Nature is so neat, and to some extent, it's about God vs. Man because in the end man inherits the powers of God and doesn't need Him. There were some mechanics I thought were cop-outs implemented to balance the game like how dropping lava on lava results in... rock? And overall I do feel like the game had more potential than it showcased. The effect of weird foliage (the prickly) or the weird animals (the description says they're supposed to destroy or help your towns, they didn't really have much effect since the game sped up the plant-growing so much) is negligible.
I hope there's going to be an expansion for this game because I really liked the direction it was going in. I thought it was worth it, even though I kept thinking "if only it had a little more...".
Not to be insensitive, but traditionally when one posts an "Oh Snap!" thread, you're supposed to append a picture, a "snap"shot if you will.
Alright the time to submit is over.
I'm really excited guys. This gonna be just swell.
Fourteen hours left to submit. This will be a fairly strict deadline FYI.
Gonna break in Resistance 3 tonight.
At 9/23/11 05:40 AM, Dr-Worm wrote:
Or alternately, do you still need shorter stuff to go in between the main works? Because I have a couple one-page vignettes lying around that I could spruce up.
I'm welcoming anything that's up to snuff.
At 9/21/11 03:09 PM, ArmouredGRIFFON wrote:
Oh I see. Sounds very much like anything to do with Prose. So does this sort of thing count?
Not exactly. Creative Non-fiction is storytelling with the truth. For instance, take Werner Herzog's documentary "Grizzly Man" or Oliver Stone's films like W or JFK. Both guys are working with real facts, but treating the participants as one would characters in fiction. By drawing connections between true events, something of a story is created, usually the personality or judgment of a person.
Still, the line is still blurry. But I would not accept something like what you linked to because there's no aspect of storytelling.
Also, just to remind everyone..... EIGHT DAYS LEFT TO SUBMIT!!!!
At 9/12/11 05:56 PM, Suprememessage wrote: Ctrl + F Suprememessage, HAVE FUN!
That's not how it works. Read the submission requirements.
Looking forward to reading it!
At 9/3/11 06:08 PM, 4urentertainment wrote: Just wanted to say that I'm working on something for real this time, it's going great, and I think with some editing and whatnot it will be a really good read with a (hopefully) brilliance-inducing ending. I'm 2k words so far, I think I'll finish up at the 3k or 3.5k mark.
And hopefully finish within the next few days, and then a few more days for editing and revising. So yeah, that's my updates, hold tight!
And thanks again for this opportunity EKublai and for your hard work organizing this whole thing!
Make every word count. Especially now that we have enough pages to fill a book, I'm looking for stories that aren't fluffed by tons of adjectives and adverbs. At this point, I'm looking for less Edgar Allen Poes and William Faulkners and more Ernest Hemingways and J.D Salingers. Just something to keep in mind.
At 9/5/11 06:28 AM, MasonLantz wrote: Alright! I got a lot done over the weekend. I'm at 2,976 words now. I'd say I'm close to halfway done, but I still have a lot I want to put in this story. I should be able to get this done before the month is over, if school work is generous in the following weeks. I must keep writing!
That's the spirit! I look forward to reading it. :) Keep in mind what I said to 4urentertainment above.
At 9/5/11 08:04 PM, WritersBlock wrote: Hopefully I'm going to have time to work on editing my submissions over the next couple of weeks. If I forget, please remind me. Uni has been kicking my ass lately...
Same, I'm in my first week, which I find about as hard as finals. Don't know what books I need, Gotta meet with professors to beg them to let me into their class last minute. Ugh.
I don't think you guys are getting the feel of what their doing with Closure. This isn't a port of the flash game, this is like Fancy Pants Adventure or Alien Hominid venture onto consoles, they're completely rebuilding it for a much better (or at least more professionally endowed) experience.
I grew up on Tyler's stuff here on Newgrounds, I'm glad to see I'm gonna get to play his great games on console (and earn some trophies!)
At 8/24/11 11:08 AM, TomFulp wrote:
With a fresh new NG coming soon, it would be great to see some movies that make people feel like they are WATCHING THE FUTURE.
Games that feel like PLAYING THE FUTURE are also great. Tankmen Incursion had camera and difficulty issues but I still forever love it for how it made me feel on Pico Day 2009.
Don't forget READING THE FUTURE!!! RIGHT!?
At 8/23/11 06:51 PM, 4urentertainment wrote: Maan..every time I read "Anthology" the first thing that comes to mind is "missed opportunities", and it sucks because I think I had some good stuff to submit...and I had a lot of time...bah. I guess maybe next time around.
You still have a month. Last month effort?
At 8/23/11 07:39 PM, Quinny wrote: LEVEL UP!
Started playing Heavy Rain again, Ethan is having a rough time.
If you ever figure out how to not hit the cop cars during the bear trial, let me know.
Highly encouraging more poets to submit their work.
I'm so excited for this game to hit ps3
Again guys, if you submitted something to the Anthology please check your pms and the email address you submitted with. I may have sent you an email saying you got in.
Jeezus? Did I get that many? How?