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I'm already working with a keyboard guy making country music dubstep.
Interested in playing country music on guitar? lol

No stems. That sucks but it's still possible (google "weapon M4sonic").
Welcome to the chop shop. :)

I'm slating a new EP. Hopefully this one won't suck. Still learning but feel like I'm progressing since my last one. It will be free on Soundcloud / Newgrounds when released.

Let me know what you think--
http://soundcloud.com/ectohelix/wired-to-thrill-ep-demo

This is amazing! Do you do your own mastering?

At 11/2/12 10:00 AM, FaeryTaleAdventurer wrote: There may have been, but I never knew of it, or seen it. Upsetting news ppl: The Ableton website has taken on a new format fairly recently and now I can no longer find any of those complimentary packs and sets that Ableton hosted for its Live 8 users. If anyone can find that page again, great.

The site's been pretty much taken over by Live 9 and Push promotions.

https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/

Lol dude, it's on the top nav bar "Packs"

At 11/2/12 06:23 AM, jarrydn wrote: you pretty much just export a sample or a loop as a wav, then bring it back in and process it further. you could resynth it / run it through effects / chop it up etc.

Yeah I'm just starting to do this (learn to alongside the basics of mastering), ironically. I'm using Ableton, which has a LOT of wav chopping abilities on it's own. Pans/fades/stretches/reverses/etc on a granular level. Seems to be a little more tedious / time consuming than your typical live play/recording, which is fast, but looks like it will REALLY pay off in the long run. Figured it'd be a good time to learn this as I'm learning more efficient transitions anyway...

Said it once, I'll say it again, really wish I had a study buddy for this... lol

I'm always inspired / motivated when I listen to other artists doing amazing things.

Hmm, I think my DAW (Ableton) does some of that. Then there's Reaktor/Max...
Anyway, in my search for the truth, I rolled across this.

http://www.sensomusic.com/usine/

Pretty impressive looking, but I wouldn't even know where to start...

Lots of neat stuff coming in 9 that I'm looking forward to.
Curves in midi envelopes.
Recorded automation.
Record Midi from Audio (this includes beat boxing, lol).
Glue Compressor.
...and unless the image is misleading, spectrum inside of your EQ8.

I can't wait.

Answered this one before with, "The wand Chooses the Wizard"
... which is true. It sort of just jumps out at you once you find one you're comfortable with.

At 10/28/12 08:13 AM, Thief1337 wrote: I listened to the video in 1080p HD

I always laugh when I see stuff like this. Like, why the hell does it even matter?
Oh but it seems to.... wacky Youtube.

For those interested in my previous link, Country Music Dubstep-
We finished the full song, and made it available for free download.
http://soundcloud.com/ectohelix/ectohelix-feat-keydemon-poke n

I've been using Ableton, though I'm not the best to give examples.

I also hear Reason is good.

If I had some good vox, I might have entered this (but alas, wasn't finished in time anyway)-

http://soundcloud.com/ectohelix/sign-eyed

Might still put it on Newgrounds.

I was rooting for Bafana and Lasse...

Glad to see they both did great. :)

What about "Hickstep"? XD ... I honestly don't know what to call it.
http://soundcloud.com/ectohelix/poken-beans-demo

A friend and I made this. Country Music Dubstep.
-
http://soundcloud.com/ectohelix/poken-beans-demo

To be completely honest.... my love for bacon.

Can't upload this to newgrounds, but figured you guys might like this.
My very first remix (Mortal Kombat Theme)-
http://soundcloud.com/ectohelix/ectohelix-mortal-kombat-them e

I think if you don't blend it well, it can sound unoriginal. When using samples (especially well known), you'd think that it's more about unique arrangement to where it barely sounds like where it came from.

Then consider, it is true that lots of producers use samples. Except those who actually take the time/money to do sound creation & analog. Buying tons of synths can get expensive, and then tweaking them for just the right sound can get time consuming. So, some people shortcut the process... (I'm even starting to come around to removing redundancies by using sampling/presets, but I post only original stuff on NG).

I got Ableton, namely because I was fascinated with the Launchpad and how you could play live with it & the "sample drum" kits. Agreed it's a little harder to learn, but once you take the time to, you'll find it very flexible. Really lets you stretch your legs with creativity.

As far as how it matches up against FL Studio. I can't say for sure. I tried it back when it was just called "Fruity Loops" (6?) and didn't care for it much. Looking at it now (a friend uses it), I could probably use it... but I'm already so far into learning Ableton, that switching directions would be silly.

The functionality look similar, but in different places. Which should you pick? I would call this similar to wanting a new coat. One red, one blue. Both will keep you warm (doing what it needs to do), but one will suit you better. Like others have said, try both on and see which one really calls to you...

I guess... the wand chooses the wizard? lol

Random acts of kindness. This is unheard of.

Just made this sample. Might put the full release on Newgrounds (as well as my site) on Halloween.

http://soundcloud.com/ectohelix/sign-eyed-sample

Trying to get critique on soundcloud before I move it anywhere important. Inbox me / comment on SC if you want.
Thanks~

You might try looperman.com
They have a lot of CC (like newgrounds) & Royalty free works you could use. Even a specific section on acapella (vox, as you call it).

At 9/20/12 05:37 AM, sorohanro wrote: SIDE-CHAIN EVERYTHING !!!

LMAO. Yeah I've been trying different ways to work compression.

I'm considering sampling two sounds which sound good together, then reimporting it and doing exactly what you're talking about. Seems like it would save on processor load as well (especially if you're using intense VSTs).

I've just been procrastinating, but I'm wondering (in your opinions) if this really is a good idea. Sampling your own work, then re-importing it and mixing it up.

At 9/18/12 04:27 PM, jpbear wrote: Panning isn't your best option in 99% of cases, when something that loud and low is panned it can be rather unsettling to most listeners,

I'm finding this to be true, unless it's super super brief (probably your 1%). The constant back and forth pounding on my ears seems to quickly exhaust them. Although, I wonder if it would work if played live... anyway, Good point.

A decently made reese with a nice rhythmic low pass is already going to sound amazing, because there is both movement on the mid and high end by the low pass and a rumbling moving low end caused by detuning a fuzzy distortions.

I've never heard of reese before, I'll look into it (and that youtube video).

If you're using massive, it has really simple access to other important filters bandpass, bandreject/stop, formant, highpass, notch, scream, and double notch. Are all way more useful than a standard low pass in terms of bass makinz.

I actually am using Massive, just after that NI "Bass invaders" promo (Massive + FM8 + Razor half off pack) a few months back. I've watched countless tutorials and I'm starting to feel more comfortable with it, really liking it's versatility. Though there's still SO MUCH I still don't know about it and the entire pack.

I pretty much never touch a low pass filter.

None? Surely it's OK to do though, if you think it sounds good / part of your style though, right? Even if it's just enveloping an EQ for a transition or something... I don't know enough to have a valid opinion. I hate being so ignorant, lol.

And i was being a bit sarcastic yet serious at the same time, get a grip on yourselves people.

Like a hazing, harsher criticisms... I've come to expect such. Pretty much why I came here. Idea sharing and brutally frank critics that I just won't find in my friends or family who'll tell me what I want to hear, not what I need to.

At 9/18/12 05:51 PM, sorohanro wrote: I would suggest to go with a low cut/ high pass on every channel that is not the main bass. Some instruments just don't really add anything useful to the mix in that frequency area.

Now I immediately remember one of the tutorials I watched where an EQ was added to everything, and low pass was cut off of everything that wasn't bass or kick drum. Can't believe I looked over that... but then, that was two days after I started, so that part of the tut was still greek to me. This seems crucial though... part of mixing/mastering I'm guessing?

I'll check out those plugs. Ableton does have some mastering things built in (Multi-band dynamics), but it never hurts to try different methods.

At 9/19/12 02:12 AM, jpbear wrote: I specifically wanted to him to get a reese, its a nice tool to know to start understanding how detune works on affecting low end movement ^.^

Soon as I figure out what it is, I'll get it. Promise. lol
I must look like an idiot trying to run before I learn to crawl.

At 9/19/12 02:42 AM, midimachine wrote: "reese" is a term named after a dnb producer and it's a term that applies exclusively to electronic music, "wobble" just sounds silly and vague.

I wasn't aware it was such a taboo word when I started the thread. I was trying to get to the point, so everyone immediately knew what I was talking about. Considering the broad dynamics involved, I guess it is rather vague...

-- In addition, sorry my posts/replies are so long. I enjoy the conversation, and I only get to post (like this) maybe once-twice in a large span of time sometimes, so I want to cover the bases. Such good advice on many fronts too... I really do appreciate it.

Have to find a scouter.

Maybe Vegeta has one.

At 9/17/12 04:59 PM, sorohanro wrote: I found out that if you actually filter the low frequencies out and remake the bass line with a sub-bass sound (a simple sine would probably do the job), you can use several different wobbles and combine them without problems.

I've never tried this, but that sounds like a great idea! Thanks.

At 9/17/12 04:59 PM, Syztm wrote: Most modern dubstep has synths/ ''wobbles'' that have frequencies spread out all over the spectrum, and take a lot of space in midrange.

I think this is exactly the problem I'm having. I haven't tried high, but I have tried low bass / sub-bass, and those wrap well on the kick. Especially with compression... I made a midrange that I really like, and can't seem to blend it with anything, so that must be it.

So keeping it simple at that point, albeit brief, seems to be the way to go (though, sorohanro's suggestion could help here).

At 9/17/12 05:03 PM, RampantMusik wrote: Is it incorporating melodically or rhythmically that is giving you trouble, or is it eq'ing the bass to fit in the mix well?

I'm going to say melodically (now that you mention it, in addition to my original problem), because usually I can pull the rhythm together. The bass doesn't seem to be a problem. Usually it's frequencies crashing, and getting muddy, while I'm doing my best to tweak the envelope (that's on the rate), to make it flow better. Usually with no luck and too much time invested. But, I realize there isn't an easy 'fix-all' to this without proper instruction.

At 9/17/12 11:10 PM, jpbear wrote: because everyone in this thread sounds beyond retarded :)

uneducated != retarded.
Though if you must get your jollies by calling newbies 'tards', I guess that's your perogative. I don't remember claiming in my post to be any sort of expert afterall... why on earth would I be asking questions if I was?

"If I can just get my WOBBLE right ill be AWESOME", when in reality there are tons of ways to go about getting a moving bassline.

By all means, share? I started using LFOs, lately I've gotten to where I like panning (rapid or slow, depending), and I'm still trying different things (envelope on EQ in lowpass, etc), but what else is there?

And ultimately it sounds immature, anyone whose bent on putting "wobbles in their dubstep" is still living in 08', or is under the age of 16.

I never even said dubstep. I'm just experimenting with different sounds (house, dance, etc). Even if I do eventually roll into dubstep, who cares? I'm enjoying learning a hobby. Sorry I wasn't specific enough, or didn't use correct/advanced terminologies for you. Still, everyone else is having no trouble with helpful replies.

Ableton isn't that hard...
Heck, 2 tutorials and I fully understood the concept of how it worked (structure wise, I'm still learning effects, etc).