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At 5/12/11 12:32 AM, SouthAsian wrote:

At 5/12/11 12:13 AM, smeagol1 wrote:

At 5/12/11 12:08 AM, TwittSoup wrote:

deep inside of me.

Only on newgrounds do people think this stuff out to post.

Holy shit we still have it.

Just as I was losing faith in our wonderful community!

The U.S. military out of respect should supply Bin Laden''s family with clear evidence of his death -- yes, death: he is dead.

How can you reconcile free-will with the concept that all actions a result of actions that come before them?

So because one relationship - fueled by drugs and threesomes - fails, all love is non-existent? Get over yourself and this whole hate philosophy you preach. Love exists, happiness exists - but you have to find it, and in order to do that you need to believe in it. Yes, not all relationships all perfect, shit happens; however, genuine, loving relationships do occur.

If you think life is so damn miserable, life for you will be petty damn miserable - hate becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

20 plus 13 makes 33,
So causing you to fail poetry.

At 5/11/11 05:43 PM, daethdrain wrote: I took the AP English test today and holy shit it was the hardest test I ever took. The history one is way easier because as it was said before it's just remembering stuff.
I'm 11th grade btw
Just you wait until you have to rake the SAT next year.

I thought it was pretty fucking easy, but that's just me. Also, SATs aren't too hard once you get used to the test. However, a 2200+ does require determined studying.

AP Art History is the hardest AP test I've taken.

At 5/10/11 02:08 AM, PhoenixGodwin wrote:

At 5/9/11 11:42 PM, Dubbi wrote:

How exactly is the government pretending the most wanted man in the world was killed when he was actually captured not a conspiracy?

Jesus, you really just don't quit, do you? So now your harassment has gone from one thread, to my profile page, to a personal message, to the thread of my actual article which you still haven't even bothered to read.

I've explained this multiple times already, on the other thread and even once to you, I believe. However I know how much you hate to read so I'll copy and paste the relevant excerpt to answer your question- because at this point I feel like showing you how redundant you've been is the only way to get your ignorant hassling to cease.

"The definition of "Conspiracy" is "A secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful". What I am suggesting arguably does not necessarily fit into that category. It's most likely technically a military action (and military operates on a different set of laws than civilians or politicians), and it's being done to protect us from harm. "

I'm pretty sure the government lying about a raid and covering it up is unlawful. Just as unlawful as the moon landing conspiracy at least. I think it's pretty clear that this is a conspiracy, and I wish you'd at least admit it.

Also, you never answered - I ask for I think the 4th time - if the release of photos would change your mind.

I answer that in the article. I answered that in the second article I linked in this one from when I still believed he was dead. I answered it numerous times in multiple threads. I'm not doing it again because if you actually were reading anything I said before just judging not only my work, but me as a person as well- you would already realize that almost (if not) every single thing you have said to me has been redundancy and ignorance nearly epitomized.

So that's a "no" then?

your theory isn't logical.

You are an idiot. Do some reading and use your head, or stop bothering me you moron.

Insulting me doesn't make you correct. I still think you're wrong. You have said absolutely nothing to prove that the government is lying. All you have provided is is a couple objections to the way the information was released, which the government has reasons for; if you don't agree with these explanations, fine, but don't think that this proves that Bin Laden is actually alive.

Is it so hard hard to believe that maybe we did bury his body in the sea in accordance with Islamic tradition and so that his burial ground wouldn't be a shrine? There's DNA evidence and photographic evidence, what more do you need? The fact that the government isn't releasing the evidence doesn't mean that they are lying.

We never were determined to capture Bin Laden. From the start of the manhunt it was about killing him -- we attempted to kill him at Tora Bora; we attempted to kill him in 2007. Why would be so so determined to capture him now?

Logically your argument just doesn't make sense. If we were so desperate about intelligence, we would capture and kill all terrorist leaders -- except the majority of them we kill in predator strikes and in raids.

If we indeed did capture him, why do you assume we'd have to lie about it? We've captured other terrorist leaders before and interrogated them without faking their death. You claim it's so we can torture him, which is totally inconsistent with Obama stand on torture. If we did capture him, where did we take him? You'd probably say to some base where we later killed him. However if our plan was intelligence, it takes years to reveal information, like with Khalid sheikh mohammed. And I highly doubt we could keep Bin Laden a secret for years -- there'd be a huge incentive to reveal the coverup, the person who did would be forever membered, hailed a hero. Also, Obama's highly against torture, even for Bin Laden, and I'd bet anything that he wouldn't agree to this plan.

I understand that there is no conclusive proof of his death. But there isn't anymore proof that he is alive. You claim no body, no photos, but this doesn't proof he's actually alive, only that the government won't release them, which they have their reasons for -- even if you don't agree with them. Thus, if the choice is between believing the government or not, I'd choose to believe the government. Occam's razor states that the theory with the least new assumptions is most likely right, and yours is not. You make plenty of assumptions -- that hundreds or even thousands of people are lying to us. While the view that the government is telling the truth just dictates that Obama is being honest, which makes much more sense.

Do you really think your conspiracy is more logical?

How exactly is the government pretending the most wanted man in the world was killed when he was actually captured not a conspiracy? I'm pretty sure it sounds like a conspiracy between, Obama, parts of the government, CIA, JSOC, and other agencies and people. Calling an obvious conspiracy not a conspiracy doesn't give your bullshit argument any more credence.

Also, you never answered - I ask for I think the 4th time - if the release of photos would change your mind. And if the government was so hell bent on covering the operation up, why wouldn't they release fake pictures and a fake body? -- I'm sure they have the resources to do that. Isn't it just much more likely that the government actually did kill Bin Laden and has its reasons for handling the evidence the way it did? A conspiracy like this would ruin Obama if revealed -- why he risk it without at least doing it perfectly. As much as you want to believe Bin Laden is alive, your theory isn't logical.

At 5/9/11 10:38 PM, klik wrote: 2. Old idiots who like to make others feel bad about them selves, thus creating long arguments.

"Themselves", idiot -- why the space, queer?

If you truly believe that the idea that the government is lying to you is the only logical conclusion, you are truly insane. Via a PM, I have shared my genuine perception of you, as un-pretty as it is.

Yup

I plan on being a success.

Because one insane woman did something retarded, hatred for all women is warranted?

I would be extremely flattered, completely confused, and highly aroused all at the same time.

My belief in Bin Laden's death resides in my trust in my government. Your disbelief in his death resides in your distrust of your government. Obviously, I cannot be 100 percent sure that he is actually dead, but I can't be absolutely sure about anything, really, But the view that we killed Bin Laden in a special forces raid in Pakistan on May 2nd makes much more logical sense than the view that the government is part of an elaborate conspiracy and is orchestrating his death.

Can you stop being such an idiotic, cynical douchebag and just accept that we killed him and that Obama has his reasons for not releasing the pictures? And also, why the hell would the release of pictures convince you of anything -- it's not like there's something called photoshop or anything.

At 5/8/11 05:24 PM, PhoenixGodwin wrote:

At 5/8/11 03:06 PM, Ninjafap wrote: At 5/8/11 03:14 PM, Dubbi wrote:

I think you've sufficiently schooled this kid. It is much more logical to assume that the government is telling to the truth on this issue than to assume the government is lying.

It's pretty easy to make a conspiracy out of anything - JFK, the moon landing, 9/11, the recession, Bin Laden's death - but to do it you have to make a ton of assumptions and basically believe the government is evil and out to get you -- that we're we're living in some dystopian society. But as much as you want to feel special, to feel that you alone are spreading truth and expelling an atrocious lie, the fact of the matter is, we killed Bin Laden and the government is not lying.

There's absolutely no evidence that we captured and didn't kill Bin Laden, and the most logical conclusion is that we killed him, as Obama said. Why don't we have a body? Because we buried it at sea, as part of Islamic tradition and in order to prevent shine from developing. Why don't we release photos? Because Obama doesn't want to flare up tension and incite terrorism.

And before you decry me for believing my president, I just want to tell you to get off your fucking high horse. You're not special. You're not enlightened. You're not intelligent. You're not another dumbshit conspiracy theorist who thinks he knows the "TRUTH"!

But really, you're just lying to yourself.

At 5/8/11 04:56 PM, Lorkas wrote: What the hell why are people so short here? Are newgrounders chinese or something?

I thought my height was average/slightly above average since I'm 188cm (6'2").

Location: Lithuania,

Here, we're mainly from America, not a particularly tall nation, relatively speaking.

Why the hell would I want to be a girl?

At 5/8/11 03:06 PM, Ninjafap wrote:
I'm using reason and I'm actually willing to accept your point of view. You, however, are stuck on some kind of a tangent and not willing to let go.

I think you've sufficiently schooled this kid. It is much more logical to assume that the government is telling to the truth on this issue than to assume the government is lying.

At 5/8/11 01:44 PM, Jedi-Master wrote: I finding it interesting that most people who've posted in this thread are exceedingly tall, much taller than the average man in North America.

I think some of you are lying.

The average height of a Caucasian male in the U.S. is 5'10.5"; however, my entire family is tall. My father, uncle and both my grandfathers stood at least 6'1".

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'Bout 6'1", 195 pounds

I've still got a little height left, though, unlike most of you. Will probably end up somewhere from 6'1.5" to 6'3"

At 5/4/11 08:06 PM, gamejunkie wrote:

At 5/4/11 07:59 PM, Dubbi wrote: Unless it is in potentially life threatening danger, no one is performing surgery on my penis.

Your safe. They dont operate on your penis. They operate on your scrotum.

Ah, you are indeed correct. My mistake.

Still not getting a vasectomy, though.

He attacked the SEALs with the power of words.

too bad words don't do shit

Unless it is in potentially life threatening danger, no one is performing surgery on my penis.

At 5/4/11 07:52 PM, PhoenixGodwin wrote:

That doesn't inspire trust, it does the opposite and people like myself are pissed.
Get over yourself. Obama isn't lying to you; he doesn't give a shit about you. The reason he's not releasing the picture is so not to flare up tension and galvanize Jihadists; there is no government conspiracy. You must think you're so unique by not trusting the government, but in reality, you're just an annoying nuisance.

At 5/3/11 02:30 PM, Painbringer wrote: Uh, a carnivore?

lol

At 5/4/11 06:24 PM, notgiantdouche wrote: SNOW SNOW FOR LUCY DVDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, this is the best thing to come out of this box yet!

not really but still p. cool

At 5/4/11 07:24 PM, TheGrim wrote: This is pointless, I will drop all assumptions about Bin Laden not being killed by soldiers the second they release that photo.

That's a retarded thing to say. Bin Laden was killed, but if you don't believe it, fine. But how would releasing a picture -- that will flare up tension and galvanize Jihadists -- quell your doubts? If you so mistrust the government, why do you accept that the released photo won't be a very convincing fake?

At 5/4/11 03:30 PM, Shnam wrote: I honestly feel like people would have his dead mugshot on shirts within a week of the photo's release.

Yeah, this is a really good point: maybe he should wait and only release the picture once all the hysteria dies down, like in a couple years. Coffee mugs and t-shirts with his bloody face would be offensive and dehumanizing.