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Before we consider the next villain for the next Batman, assuming there will be one, it might be good to try to figure out if Harvey Dent is really SPOILER dead END SPOILER.
I personally think he is but my girlfriend said she saw the actor breathing on the ground during that scene. And since Batman survived the relatively short fall it wouldn't be too far fetched to see Harvey did as well. The breathing could have just been an actor/camera error, but it would be interesting to see him return.

But then I think, no....what would he do? Be obsessed with getting revenge on Gordon and Batman for ruining his life? He already did that, and might have died in the process. To keep him on that same path would be redundant and pointless. And to make him just another "Im a villain with a shitload of henchmen" would be too unrealisic comic-y and wouldn't fit this new dark style of Batman in my eyes. So maybe killing him off was good.

As for a new villain, I'd think Freeze, Ivy, and Man-Bat are too unrealistic for the movies. As someone said earlier these movies are about REAL people just doing crazy shit. Bane, Penguin(since he's just ugly), and Riddler would be good choices.

Though personally Im betting the next movie won't be so much about a hardcore villain like how Dark Knight was for Joker. Im betting it might be about a personal struggle with Batman again, but now even larger with some input by Gordon. Batman is now a hunted vigilantee again and both the cops and the people are after him. Gordon will most likely be torn about hunting him down and just letting him slide on all his "crimes". Bruce may be reconsidering his role as Batman again, torn between now being the ONLY one to be a "hero" to Gotham since Dent is gone and just giving up since it doesn't matter anymore. Since he'll still be hunted either way. And with Racheal dead he has nothing to look forward to for Bruce.
That's what Im hoping for. More conflict within Bruce and his choice to be Batman instead of a new super crazy villain.

Because honestly, who the fuck can top Heath Ledger's joker? Seriously......who....????

I saw Dark Knight last night with my girlfriend and it kicked ass. She wasn't a fan of Batman Begins for some unknown reason, but we both agreed this was by far the best Batman movie ever. Im thinking this is just one of the best phycological thrillers ever as well.

Im seeing it again tonight, and probably once again once I get a chance to see it in an IMAX theatre, which I've heard is just epic.

See this movie if you havn't already.

Thanks beast. I appreciate it.

Though I have a question about it. I sent the link to my friends and then actually watched it at YungJazz's house and it looked WAY too dark than what it did on my computer at home.

Just wondering if it looks dark on anyone elses system. If you can't tell what the guy looks like or see the shadow at the end very well than it most likely is and I'll fix it.
Otherwise I'll just assume it was the lighting at his house and keep it as is.

Thanks in advance.

My part for the collab is done, at the moment at least.

http://spamtheweb.com/ul/upload/160708/4 7754_Part20.php

If there's anything else that can or should be added or fixed just tell me and I'll get it done. Hope this makes it into the collab.

Good luck to anyone else.

Put in about an hour and a half of work on it combined so far. Please excuse the blue and green lines seen in the background. Those are the "skeletons" I drew to help me with the poses. Im not taking them out until the final product is finished. And I will change the background to black as soon as Im done. Having it white right now is easier to animate frame by frame with how dark Im making the color scheme.

http://spamtheweb.com/ul/upload/140708/7 1379_Part20.php

Hope the link works.

Im gonna try my hands at part 20. I'll post some WIP as soon as I get something good made.

Hey don't sweat about it. Out of three challenging AP exams you got fan-fucking-tastic scores. Two 5's and a 4 are kick ass for any school unless the school is full of uptight morons who only accept 5's.

What killed you on the APUSH test? Multiple choice or essays? I found the essays to be a bit challenging, especially the free response. Just wondering sine I havn't got my scores back yet...and am getting annoyed at how EVERYONE ELSE IS!!!

Forget your pride and scholarly achievement or whatever you want to call it. You did pretty damn good, better than most students who take the test. Be proud you were able to get sweet scores on three AP exams.

One of yungjazz's characters from his movies. They're pretty good and get front page once in a while. Maybe the publicity would give him more encouragement to get his series going strong.

Gotta put in a plug for ma boy.

At 7/9/08 08:42 PM, Anim8or666 wrote: Backpack and paper stuff

I can partially agree with you on this issue. Having a large amount of stuff, whether it be textbooks, binders, folders, pads of paper, millions of writing utencils, and ten pound calculators is not good for anyone's back unless they're a bodybuilder. Throughout my high school life I have had a very heavy bag, full of folders and textbooks. Usually it only took one or two books to push my bag to the breaking of the straps level.

Classrooms should try to have two sets of books for their students. One for in class and one for home so there is a minimum amount of carrying heavy ass books around. This isn't always possible so schools should always allow enough time for locker storage or something of that nature to take the strain off of someone's back.

1) Reliance on homework.

Im split on this issue with you because I have had both good and downright horrible experiences with the evil known as homework. Homework can be effective for both the teacher and the student if used right. I classify homework into two categories simply named "usefull" and "evil".

Homework is only useful if it is designed to help a student learn something in a reasonable amount of time. Assignments such as reading a chapter or two, practicing a concept learned that day in a science or math class(sadly English as well), writing papers over a course of a few days or a few weeks, or simply studying(which I usually call "No Homework" days). For example it is useful and helpful to students in a math class to practice ten problems with varying amounts of diffilculty over a concept taught during the day's lesson. As long as the teacher taught well most students should be able to complete most or all of the problmes. The homework will then be checked for pass/fail credit the and gone over the next day so the students can learn something from it. Or a teacher assigns a section of a book to read which might only take twenty minutes for a discussion the next day.

Evil homework is just given to make students work and give a teacher something to put in a gradebook and is usually graded like a test. Monotanous practice just to give work. I've experience this as well, and it's crap. What makes this even more evil is if a teacher grades on a right/wrong basis instead of a pass/fail sort of thing. Spanish homework for me was like this. We'd learn something hard, I'd go home and work my ass off on the homework knowing I'd only get half of it right, and then I'd fail the homework assignment even though I put in a lot of effort into it.

In conclusion homework is only useful if it's for practice or to prepare for the next day and is graded pass/fail.

2) Reliance on tests/studying.

Tests and studying are not as bad as you make them out to be. Tests are the only way a teacher can evaluate a students progress in school for a report. It sucks, but unless classes are only ten students large at max and each student gets a one-on-one experience it's the only way. I will agree pop quizes suck as I have only had one class in which they worked well as a grade booster, and only because they were easy as hell to prepare for. However for most tests and exams they are easy to pass with a good grade as long as you paid attention in class. For most tests I have taken I studying as most maybe twenty minutes as a review because I had paid attention in class instead of sleeping. I was able to have a life.

Exams do suck, I will agree with you on that issue. If you have been tested on something all year you do not need a final test to see if you know it. Most likely you do. Few classes should require a final exam unless it's for some type of certification for a future career.

3) Schools grade students solely on classwork, exams, and homework, not on actual skill/ability. And while a student may fail a class, he or she may actually be good at that subject.

That may be true for you and a minority of students, but for many students, many that I have seen at least, this is not the case. And even if it is the case it shows a lack of effort and responsibility based on the students part. A student may be great at math but if they don't put in the effort to get a good greade their skills do not matter. Someone at a graphic design job may kick ass at making designs but if they never show up on time or do any work they will be fired regardless of their skills.

but the modern school system takes these would-be geniuses and wrings/burns them out until they lose all of their ability. School often gives little or no oppurtunity for creative individuals to express themselves.

This I agree with you on completely, and it applies to a larger range of kids than geniuses. Students who are great at subjects of a certain area are screwed over a lot when forced to do "easy" or "hard" work all the time. Students, good, bad, smart, ignorant, can all be burned out when forced to do the same thing over and over again or even just forced to do simple things, but do them one thousand times a year. Creative expression, even just one or two classes of it a day or even a fun assignment once in a while can boost up a students morale and encourage them not to give up on a bad system.

4) Standard Classes. By high school, one should be able to choose which classes he or she wants to take.

Mixed feelings on this one as well. Standard classes, especially bullshit ones such as gym, life skills, freshmen focus, and "How To Make Pie" are useless to the majority of students. However I do not believe it is bad to give a student options their first year of highschool. Having basic knowledge in history, math, science, economics, and especially English, are fine. Two credits max, maybe three for English and then open it up a student's junior and senior year. Allow them to take more fun and creative classes. Or classes that teach skills that a student can use right out of highschool, such as web design or media classes. Students will gravitate more towards classes that interest them while still taking enough of classes in one subject to give him or her a good chance at college.

if your school offers a choice between easy and hard standard classes, always take the easy option.

Not always. A lot of students I know take the harder classes sometimes in order to challenge themselves and get out of the pains of normal classes. I have done so myself and I have found these harder classes to be so much more rewarding than normal classes. Many problems of highschool classes are taken away in advanced classes. Homework suddenly has a meaning, tests are fine because you actually learn shit, studying becomes less of a burden, notetaking actually helps, and the class is fun. And in the end, you actually learn something that WILL help you in life, whether it be the material or some type of useful skill.

In conclusion your rant is alright, but sounds a little immature at a first read. Many of your complaints mentioned something about "not having a life". Your rant comes off as you wanting school to be easier so you can be lazier. Not meaning to flame, but that's how it sounds. School isn't that hard if you put in the work needed. And if your too lazy to put in the work needed your not going to get what you need to have a fun job or anything. Just put in the effort, get through the system, and forget about it when you finally have a job you enjoy.

At 6/30/08 12:05 AM, marchohare wrote: Next, I said, "He would get Medieval on campaign finance reform," to which you only responded with a question mark. I was saying what I just repeated: corporate campaign financing must end. All candidates should receive exactly the same resources, ideally just a website where they publish their position papers. No media coverage, no slanted playing field, only their positions. Ideally we shouldn't even know their races, sexes, or even their names. Let 'em run as "Candidate A, Candidate B, Candidate C" and so forth, and be judged purely on the basis of their ideas.

It's a radical notion, but fixing our fucked up system is going to take a radical approach.

I LOVE THIS IDEA!!!!

Though I love this election for how it can change America, and am an Obama supporter, I HATE the way the media has tilted the election, especially it seemed in the primary, to his favor. A lot of the media seemed to report opinions on one candidate(and his/her enemies) rather than report the facts of EACH candidate so the people could decide.

Then again, maybe it's the only way to report politics anymore. The majority of Americans don't seem to care about who runs their country as long as they don't destroy MTV or something stupid.

It might be too late in this election to push for your idea, with how much damage the media has done, but maybe for an election some time in the near future. Test it out in some local city elections or state elctions if your ballsy.

I hope we havn't steared this topic onto a tangent now.....

The users who don't animate or program or use flash in any way are still an important part of the Newgrounds Community. The ones who help pass, blam, and review submissions are the ones that help keep the animators, programmers, and audio artists going. They give them encouragement, advice, and for most flash artists a reason to keep making quality flashes. In other words, they create the fan base for the users who do contribute content to the site.

As a flash animator myself, I love seeing all types of feedback, from flash makers or non-flash makers. Though the advice from non-flash makers is usually more useful, but still, regular users help out a lot.

There are many problems with the current education system. The whole education system. Enough to write a series of novels on. Enough to write a one thousand page government case study one. Single spaced, double sided, no charts or graphs(that's in part 2), size 10 font.

Coddling in my opinion is the main issue. Throughout my entire education career I've seen the scholars pass brilliantly, the smart kids pass superbly, the average pass joyfully, the not-so-bright pass with a sense of acomplishment, and clowns pass with a smile, and the fucking morons pass with the same "don't give a fuck" attitude they've had since they failed "Drawing Stickmen 101".

The problem is because the education system is afraid of damaging their self esteem and childhood innocence or some bullshit to tell them they are losers and need to step it up. Teachers an councilers can only "suggest" to hold back a kid another year to better prepare that kid for success instead of failure and everything. But parents are too damn proud and stubborn to do it, so losers keep passing until society and real life hit them and kick them to the curb where they have no chance at making ANYTHING of themselves besides one more bum for a box to play Metal Gear Solid with.

While Im not for failing grade schoolers because they could't make macaroni art the correct way, Im not for babying them until highschool where failing means more than the title of a Brittany Spears song(God help you if you don't get this). I say by middle school, around grades 7 or 8, is where failure should make the jump from failure to reality. That way they learn what not to do and maybe, JUST MAYBE, put forward more effort into passing highschool, going to college, and being somebody.

For too long I have seen people fail at everything because they could. No consequences because middle school didn't count. Then they get into highschool, fail freshmen year, fall behind, lose confidence, give up and quit. Highschool students can no longer afford a "mess up year" their freshmen year. They need to pass every year. So let them see it in middle school. Give them two years to straighten up. If they don't pass 7th grade, they don't move on to 8th. Colleges won't know because it won't be on their transcripts. But they won't be with their friends who might have had common sense and moved on. They'll see fast when they're called a loser from their new class and their older classmates who moved on. Let that sink in before highschool.

Once they're in highschool begin weeding out the scholars and the hopeless fools from the group of students. This is easier said than done, but can simply be done by offering three types of classes. Normal, Honors, and AP.

Normal

Normal classes will contain sub-categories as well, as not all normal classes are bad. By giving a class normal status it basically means you are putting in students who are normal. Average people, which most will grow up and contribute to society. But within these normal classes are a few categories. Blowoff, fun, and developing.

Blowoff

Blowoff classes include the likes of Cooking 101, 201...80576, Team Sports, Lifeskills, Time Management, Freshmen Focus, Nose Picking for losers, Typing, yadda yadda yadda. This is where you will find most, if not all, of the students who don't give a fuck. They made it this far, but just barely. They just want to get through highschool without failing and move on to life. They most likely won't go to college, will move right on to the job market, and will help society out in some way. You'll also occasionally find smart students in this class who need a break or filled a hole in their scheduale.

Fun

These classes are there simply as a form of recess and skill development for all students. Classes that aim to please to the likes, skills, and hobbies of students and maybe teach them a skill they may be able to use right out of highschool, or develop further in college. Classes such as music, art, technology, anything computer related, business(for some it's fun), and any other class that's not blowoff, but not anything special. You'll find all types of students in this class, but mainly smart kids who would rather learn a skill than advanced math or biology. You could also put Career Programs in here, though those deserver their own special category.

Developing

Classes for entry level freshmen. Just to teach them skills they will later need for future highschool classes, college classes, or life in general. These classes are usually mandatory and will include every type of student there is. Classes can be fun, but most times are not, though these classes are dependant upon the teacher. The teacher can usually make or break these classes.

Honors

These classes are for the more educated and caring students. They take a subject and make it more challenging for students. They do this so they can learn more than just the material, but maybe how to think about things as well. These classes are taught by teachers who have taught the subject longer or better and who like the subject. These classes aim to prepare the student for higher education. These students are not always the brightest, but are the students who definetly care enough about life and education to be rewarded with a class that won't put them to sleep because of the ease of it.

AP

The best of the best are only found in these classes. These classes pretty much teach college level material. You are on par with college kids when you take this class and once your out of the class, assuming you did well in it, your armed with some basic knowledge and skills so employers will pick you first in harder professions. These classes are rigorouse because they force students to grow up and act like adults. They force students to not only learn material mostly on their own, but also learn life skills such as time managment, planning, organization, and how to learn. You will know office level skills once you pass this class, even if you only learned how you DON'T work rather than how you DO work. These classes are taught only by the best of the best of teachers and teachers who must LOVE the subject and can have fun with the students.

If students pass this class they are moving on to hard proffessions once they leave highschool and college.

This list is entirely based on my own opinion, and now that I've read it, seems a bit elitest, but I don't care. This separation of students, especially by the junior and senior years, will help students overall. It will allow educators to craft classes to the students needs rather than whatever education law the government just passed. However smart a student is, besides blowoffs, they will know something once they get out which will help them in life, whether it be a skill or college level information or a bit of both. Classes will be designed to prepare students for LIFE rather than a test.

The best part about this system is it is dependent on the students as to which group they will be in. A student could be horrible at math and science, so will only take normal level math and science classes while taking some fun classes. That same student might rock at history and English, so will take Honors and AP classes in those areas while not overworking him or her in areas in which they are not so strong.

Another student may not be so bright in terms of education matters and will only take normal skilled classes and maybe one or two honor throughout his or her highschool education. However the same student may have a hobby he or she enjoys and will go to a trade program or work program to better learn that trade. Once graduated he or she will have basic knowledge for small or community college and a skill which will pay the bills.

Basically schools need to stop babying everybody and start designing classes for the skills of everyone. That is the bottom line.

thedo12 is a fucking moron

I apologize for any HTML or grammar mistakes. It's late.....

George Carlin...dead...those words don't quite make sense to me right now...soon they will...but for now they mean...it's weird...

I've been listening to that man since I was little, and at that age I had no idea who he was. Just the soothing voice that could tell great stories on Thomas The Tank Engine. Years later I saw his stand up act. I think it was "You Are All Diseased". I was instantly hooked.
As I grew older and heard more of his material I can honestly say he helped shape my life, for better or for worse. Im more cynical in life, but I also question things more. I yearn for knowledge like Carline did. Simply so I know things, so I can argue them, make fun of them, whatever.

George Carlin will be missed by all who knew great comedy. He was funny, intelligent, inciteful, and just had that damn good voice. The kind that you hear in your voice whenever you imagine some old man by a fire telling a story, or giving advice on life.

I demand a tribute to George Carlin Collab....a proper goodbye from a community that would probably love talking to him. And a community that Carlin would love to learn about just so he could hate our "NGer Culture" as well. And we'd still love him.

RIP George Carlin. You will be missed.

My friend Joel "The Ninja" has this stealthy ability you speak of...only I swear it's some type of super power with him. Not only can he completely walk around my house, get a drink, surf the internet, and then finally find me after an hour, but he can teleport through shit. We swear he can. He just pops up everywhere, and then dissapears as mysteriously as he appeared.

For example...one day my girlfriend and I were getting into my car to go somewhere. We start driving and while we are driving I look in the back seat and Joel is in it...just smiling a creepy ass smile.

He's my boy and all..but he is crazy.

Finish it. It's already passable in my eyes. Keep doin what your doin.

At 6/7/08 02:42 AM, DoMiNiC147 wrote: I say let people believe what they want. I myself believe in god.

Arguably the smartest post in this thread besides the one made by Andrei-Ulmeyda. Ironic part is it's from a "noob"...though no offense.

I am athiest, but I thought I'd put my opinion in here.
I don't know many athiests. I know more religious folk than athiests. My girlfriend of almost 17 months is a very devout Christian. We all get along fine and have very few religious debates, and certainly never have one that could ruin our friendship.

Respect and tolerance is simply the reason for this. We respect each other and tolerate each other enough so that we don't care that much about each other's faith, or lack thereof.

Based on the many posts I've seen in this thread from athiests, and other posts in other threads by religious folk and athiest, respect is something missing from both sides. Not from all, but enough to give both a bad taste in each other's mouths.

Basically no side knows who is right. Each side is strong in their OWN beliefs of what they THINK is right. Both can argue until the end of time of who is right, but it will never get anywhere because we may never know who is truly right. I personally believe science is more credible than religious texts, but I certainly won't deny religious folk their right to believe it.

Respect and tolerance. Are those two ideas really that hard to live by even if you HATE the other side's beliefs???

I can't reply to the first part of your post since I sadly havn't had the priveledge of sleeping with my girlfriend yet. Though let me just say, when we do lie next to each other it's oh so fucking beautiful.

As to the last part, it may just be me, that's not how women act towards me. Sometimes I do have to dig around the "fine" line, but for the most part if you have an understanding relationship you can be open with each other.

Love: School is over. You now have time to relax and do whatever you want. Finaly time to work on those things you couldn't work on during school, chill with family and friends more, sleep, or get that game in that's been on your shelf for months.

Hate: Boredom midway through summer. No structure. Procrastination on those projects you thought you wanted to do. A feeling of a "wasted summer" when it's over if you didn't get to do anything.

All in all though, I love summer. Time for me without school.

Im going to miss it though..only one more left.

At 5/11/08 02:49 AM, MidnyteRayne wrote: The age of consent varies from state to state

Thank you. I was looking through this whole topic waiting for someone to point that out.
The law is there to stop pedophiles. I think the logic is a little messed up about the maturity of some people. Some people at 22 are sometimes too stupid/immature to have safe-sex.

Here are the many different ages of consent in the different states and countries.
Though like Rayne wrote, it's very unlikely you'll be charged with statatory rape if you have sex when your BOTH under the age of consent. Pedophiles...that's a different story...

Dang...I just took that thing exactly 16.5 hours ago...damn.

Well it wasn't too bad. I'd been studying my ass off the days before it so I knew the majority of the mulitple choice questions. The DBQ was damn easy, but the free responses were a little challenging. Overall I feel like I got a high 4 or maybe even a 5.

The key to passing that thing is taking really REALLY good notes if your taking some type of APUSH class. I read through my entire notebook for the past few days and my brain now knows soooo much history it's amazing.

Bump...cuz then we can talk about the essays in two days. I know nobody in real life cares about the "silence or death" rule about that thing, but I bet the internet is the place where it is enforced, and I for one WILL NOT lose my grade after studying my ass off.

Though I did like the Doonsberry comic in the test. I laughed before answering it.

At 5/3/08 02:14 PM, hippl5 wrote:

At 5/3/08 02:12 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: tradition + major rights

Vs. reduction of idiots, and solving the problem of overpopulation

Just because you pass a test doesn't mean your not an idiot. People get driving licenses all the time who are idiots. All they have to do is pass a test. Then they can go and do anything they want, ignoring all they've learned in the process of earning a license.

There will always be parents. Even with government intervention there will always be parents who THOUGHT they could raise a kid. But then once the time comes they end up failing miserably at it.

I am in full support of lowering the drinking age below 21. I would like it to be 18, but I am aware that means alcohol would be available in highschools. Not only that, but teachers and students would be drinking together in bars, creating awkward situations for both. That being said I would be fine with a drinking age of 19. Out of highschools but still in the hands of the adults, who are considered adults at 18 years of age.

But looking at this situation realistically I think there is some validity to an argument that immediately lowering the drinking age to 18 would cause binge drinking and a huge increase in minor drinkers. It would most likely happen, but for the same reason it happens to 21 year olds who can now drink. Alcohol, the Forbidden Fruit of America, would immediately be free for consumption.

To realistically lower the drinking age without causing problems would require a complete overhaul of how this country teaches about alcohol, drugs, sex, tobacco, and anything else "bad". America for the most part teaches it's youth that abstinence and avoidance of everything "bad" is the best way to live life. In doing so this creates the Forbidden Fruit of whatever is being taught against, whether it be sex or alcohol.

What needs to happen is a change in teaching. Abstinence education doesn't work very well. I know this from personal experience. After hearing about the evils of drugs for ten or more years, you get sick of it. You want to try the Forbidden Fruit to see if it's really so bad. Some have the sense to do it maturely and responsibley but others will be fools and binge on it.

Moderation should be taught if nothing else. Almost anything "bad" for you can be done in moderation. Drinking in moderation can keep you safe and healthy. Eating chocolate in moderation gives you joy and helps you remain healthy as long as you eat right and excercise too. Playing video games for a little bit in between homework and chilling with friends time won't make you a social outcast who lives in a basement his/her whole life. If moderation is taught in highschool, as well as teaching when to know your limits, which takes personal practice, than irresponsable drinking habbits would be lowered. That doesn't mean people won't go to a party and get wasted once in their life, but it means everytime they drink they won't get wasted and have the potential of killing themselves either by alcohol poisoning or drunk driving.

A realistic plan for lowering the drinking age should be a five to ten year period of curriculum change in schools across the country. Teaching responsibility and moderation instead of, "IT'S EVIL!!!". Then do some type of study to see if it's working. Underage drinking will still continue during this period, know one can deny that. But look to see if the new generation of drinkers are having less problems with alcohol than the previous generation.

Next lower the drinking age to 19. Study it. See if it works. Continue moderation teaching. If over the course of ten to twenty years things get worse, then obviously American culture can not handle a lower drinking age. But nothing is to stop America from changing into a culture of moderation and responsibility rather than fear of the Forbidden Fruit. This teaching will go farther than alcohol too. It may even spread to helping the obesity problem America is having these days.

In response to arguments that most 18 year olds won't join the military and use the argument of "Im old enough to die, Im old enough to drink" just for their own purposes, consider this. In America, an 18 year old must register with the armed services just in case our government decides it needs the draft again. This means, theoretically, right out of highschool I can be drafted to fight. If this happens, I deserve to be able to drink before I go off and risk my life.
Chances are this will never happen, but it's something that must be considered.

At 4/26/08 05:32 PM, Jarvis-Ganon wrote:

At 4/26/08 05:27 PM, yooyo wrote: is that all atheists reall care about living life to the fullest, so would u kill to live life to the fullest, smoke pot and have sex at 15 that's right dasubercow i'm calling you out to meet me on this forum we haven't settled this fight and u guessed it it's me fuckallathiests so bring it bitch

Just because we want to enjoy life, why would you automatically assume we would kill and smoke to do that? In fact, if you look at that logically, wouldn't most of us go to jail for that kind of thing, so why would we do it?! We don't need some imaginary deity to tell us what is right and what is wrong, those who do actually NEED religion to keep them from doing stuff like that are mentally weak and should seek help.

I love it when religious people think all athiests want to do is live a life without consequence. It's one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard of. Ganon is right in what he said. Athiests don't need someone to tell them how to live. Athiests can have just as good, or bad, morals as a super religious person.

But back to the original post. Personally I wouldn't want to make the decision for them unless I absolutely had to. If they had a will or said something to me regarding what they would want to happen in a situation like that I would follow their wishes because that's what they want. But if there was nothing to base this decision on I would have to do it based on how well I knew the person.

Personally, I'd pull the plug, but only if there was no, or very very very little chance of recovery. What that person would be living is not a life. It's just an object that happens to be living, but with help. In nature, they'd be dead. If there is an afterlife I would let them move on to it. And if there isn't, I'd still do it anyways.

Mixed feelings on this.

First reaction after reading article.

The police handled the situation very VERY poorly. Honestly if someone was coming into my house at night and I lived alone and had no idea who it was I probably would have assaulted them with a weapon as well. Maybe not shoot them, but scare them or break somethine out of fear.

Im also not sure of the legality of the police actions. A judge did give them a warrent, but what judge would grant a warrent based on a police informant who broke into the man's house? Was it some type of deal the cops made after they caught this guy for something? And if I was a judge I don't think I'd sign a warrent like this without some other evidence supporting the informant's accusations.
This warrent will most likely be thrown out anyways. It's too weird unless we're not getting all the facts.

Reaction after thinking it over

How this man reacted might have been over the top. Though it was in response to an unknown person entering his house, it was still over the top to shoot them. Beat them sensless maybe, but shoot them? But is murder an appropriate charge? Hell no. Manslaughter, and something weak too. The conditions in which this incident occurred are shaky. The man should pay for overreacting, but wtih a WAY lesser charge.

Overall thoughts, both sides are to blame, more of it though on the cops. Weird search warrent, sloppy way of executing it, and overreaction on the man's part. But the death penalty and a murder charge are way to excessive for this crime.

At 4/25/08 06:21 PM, Palomides wrote:

Geez dont argue with me unless you supply REASONS, arguments like these lead nowhere.

Oh gawd. Im going to go off topic for second because this is making me a little bit annoyed at the level of ignorance here.

Evolution is a scientific THEORY about how life changes and adapts to survive. A theory in science is different then say a theory about something in everyday life. In science, something only becomes a theory after a crap load of evidence is given through experimentation and research, making it pretty damn credible. Though in science, things change, which is why it takes even more to make it a law.
But whether evolution exhists or not is not for debate here, so I'll stop now before I go into that.

But evolution is NOT a religion. Evolution does not explain how life was created. In fact, as far as I know, it doesn't even attempt to figure it out. It just exlains how life is able to continue in a changing world. It also doesn't try to explain the universe. I know many people who believe God created the universe, life, and then decided to create evolution as some type of automations system to life where he checks in to make sure everything is ok. Hmmm...like the portal...

To use an example that is less extreme....I believe Obama will be a better president than Clinton or McCain and will take the country into a new direction, or will at least start a new political movement. There are many people who do not think this, but this doesn't make it a religion.

Beliefs =/= religion

Back to the orginal topic.

I believe you are born gay or straight. Which means I think there is an evolutionary role with sexual orientation. In strict scientific terms, if gay couples were married the species would never carry on until they realized in order to continue on they were have to have sex with the opposite sex, which would probably lead to a more bi-sexual race of people than gay. Gay people are equipped for the job, and evolution would dicate the gay dude who realizes he has to fuck women would save his genetic pool from death.

In todays world this can happen the natural way, or through the petri dish. This has been stated. Also previously stated is the theory that maybe this is evolution's way of trying to control humans by having an increase in gay people, though then again this might be a social factor in that it is more acceptable now to come out than it ever has before.
Homosexuality might be a natural control to the human population. Most gay couples will probably never procreate naturally because they can't. Others might have sex just for the kid. But because humans are too smart for nature we can artificially enseminate and reproduce.

That question may never be answered. To do so you'd have to put 100 gay men and 100 lesbians on an island to live a natural wild life, and see if the population grows, or at least survives. Maybe it would turn into a bi-sexual or even heterosexual environment, meaning that homosexuality is just a quirk in the gene pool.

At 4/20/08 09:40 PM, CryogenChaos wrote: Artists really need to stop being pretentious dicks long enough to finish a series.

True words.
I love SMBZ. I think it's one, if not the best sprite series on Newgrounds. Alvin has some kick ass skills as an animator, and I don't care about the fact that he uses sprites and not real drawings. His animations were fast paced, with great effects and he didn't overload the movies with them, and it kept people involved.

I hate the fact that he's quitting the series. I hate it even more that some of his over-eager fans pushed him to do it. But what I hate the most is that he's letting down the hundreds, if not thousands, of other fans who love his movies and never bugged or harrassed or spammed him in any way for his next movie, especcially the fans who encouraged him.

To ask him to finish the series, or at least another episode, for those fans would look to him like he's just maing it for them and not himself, which would mean a lack of quality. Because of this, I won't ask him to continue. But I will ask that he re-thinks this decision to realize that he is punishing the majority for the actions of the minority.
If he never made another SMBZ, I would't be crushed. I'd move on. There will always be another series that will take it's place. But I do hope he takes a long vacation and then continues again because it was such a good series.

This may look bad my fellow Newgrounders, but there is hope in sight. As far as I know the House has not yet voted on the Internet Freedom Preservation Act 2008" (HR 5353) which would guarantee Net Neutrality(based on my understanding of it, I have yet to read the actual bill)
Not only that, but both Clinton and Obama support Net Neutrality. McCain doesn't from what I've read, and of all the Republicans I liked him the most too... =(

Let us hope for the internet's sake, as well as the freedom to use it and share information on a world level, that Congress does the right thing and keep Net Neutrality alive. And if that doesn't happen, lets hope the next president if it be a Democrat, will help keep it alive.
And if that fails, we protest.

This may look bad my fellow Newgrounders, but there is hope in sight. As far as I know the House has not yet voted on the Internet Freedom Preservation Act 2008" (HR 5353) which would guarantee Net Neutrality(based on my understanding of it, I have yet to read the actual bill)
Not only that, but both Clinton and Obama support Net Neutrality. McCain doesn't from what I've read, and of all the Republicans I liked him the most too... =(

Let us hope for the internet's sake, as well as the freedom to use it and share information on a world level, that Congress does the right thing and keep Net Neutrality alive. And if that doesn't happen, lets hope the next president if it be a Democrat, will help keep it alive.
And if that fails, we protest.

YAY Band geeks.

Marching band. I love it. I hate it. I can't stop going back. It's probably because Im in the best section ever, trumpets(those who argue are foolish). Three years in mine and we've played too kickass shows.

Freshmen year - The Beatles. BEST SHOW EVER!!!
Sophomore Year - Tower of Power - Not the best, but still very fun to play
Junior Year - Pirates of the Carribean, the first one.

We've recieved straight one's (the best ranking) every year.

Can't wait for my final year, but I'll still miss it.

Im such a fucking geek =P

I've been playing trumpet since I was in 5th grade, so that's about 7 years now. I also tried to learn guitar, but I never gave it the time and effort required to actually learn to play it. Though I bet if I tried again, and actually was serious about it, I could pull it off.