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At 4/12/04 08:03 AM, Homo_The_Clown wrote: My definition of a terrorist is someone who is willing to cause grievous harm to any number of people, so as to either further his political or religious views or rule through coercive intimidation.

The good old US of A during the second world war... will someone come out and admit it?

For Pete's sake... Of course its not the LITERAL fonction of a finance minister to COUNT every penny. He is accountable though for the way the funds are spent, invested and generally managed. We can't afford to have irresponsible people fulfilling those duties now, can we?

At 4/12/04 12:59 AM, Izuamoto wrote: we try to solve fallacy in human conscience through a system of laws as corrupt as the people who made them.

greed is why people starve, why the average worker is paid so little. so a few can make billions upon billions, more than they could ever use.

I absolutely agree with you on that one. We're seeing a trend though in public outrage towards CEOs who seem to touch exhorbitant salaries, while their companies are in the red. Too many scandals have made corporate america lose face. There will be reform, somewhere along the line.

At 4/11/04 02:30 PM, bombkangaroo wrote:

freedom fighters don't attack civilians, take hostages, or cause unneccessary massive collateral damage.

Hiroshima, Nagasaki? Don't they teach basic history in public schools anymore?

M(m)ormons are just part of yet another "a la mode" cult, like jehova's witnesses or raelians (all purposely underscored). They'll all burn in hell, not for practicing their faith, but for impeding upon others'.

At 4/11/04 05:49 PM, TheShrike wrote: Couldn't find any way to translate it, but it doesn't look like a reputable news source anyway. What it does look like is a conspiracy magazine.</blah>

I could say the same about CNN.com.

At 4/11/04 03:26 AM, spanishfli wrote:

But they failed to report that these same Americans pee'd on the Mexican flag (I'm not too sure about this, it has been a while) in disrespect, hence pissed off Mexicans were crying "Osama, Osama, Osama!" to vent out their frustration and anger.

They should have stoned those red-neck bastards. I'd seriously lose it if anyone abused my country's flag like that, and would happily accept the consequences.

Minimum wage raises do fight the effects of inflation, that is if increase rates are rather stable (say 2% for example). In 50 years from now the minimum wage might very well be 20$ an hour, but you will be paying your gallon of milk 10 bucks and your loaf of bread 5. My dad constantly tells me of the wonder years where a burger was 10 cents and a gallon of gas 25... but people were paid less than a dollar an hour! It all equates in the end.

At 4/11/04 01:57 AM, Jlop985 wrote:

Are you serious? Even I, one of the more conservative members on this board, don't believe in artificial hierarchy. Everyone should be given the chance to rise or fall based on his stupidity or intelligence, but we shouldn't cast this hierarchy in stone.

It seems to me that society's structure weakens with every passing generation. Morons and complete idiots continue to breed and pass on their deficient ways of life to their young. As we move along the path of time, we will be faced with the apparent decision of instilling order, be it "artificial" as you say. We cannot expect the human race to benefit from current standards of living (as in the west) forever, without sacrificing some of our currently abundant liberty.

At 4/11/04 02:43 AM, RugbyMacDaddy wrote: OK not that this is a Paul MArtin bashing thread but I am going to defend him here. First he has put his foot down and already fired atleast one crown corperation CEO over the sponsorship scandal. Also people say he should have known abotu this if he was finance minister.

When its a matter of public funds, the public in question wants every damned cent accounted for. I pay 40% in income tax, I'd like to know its not winding up in some fat cat's pockets.

At 4/10/04 09:34 PM, Adun wrote: Tonns of money is going to corrupt people. Its no mystery. Some people want the government system purged, which would mean firing all the the people who could steal the money, but thats not going to happen because the people they want out of the government are RUNNING everything and theyre not going to kick themselved out.

Canada would be a much better place if someone like paul martin (unlikley, hes just as bad) put their fucking foot down.

Paul Martin is neck deep in that pile of gunk himself, so I doubt very strongly that our current government will want to expose EVERYTHING right away. Even if he isn't guilty, he should be destituted for being stupid enough not to have noticed any of the foul play while he was finance minister.

We've already shown the middle east far too much weakness! Like sharks stimulated by the scent of human blood, they will be drawn to us by fault of our lack of reaction. The west is too "good" or "enlightened" for its own good.

Government owned companies are raking in record profits, at least in my province of Quebec. Electricity, alcohol and gambling bring in billions of dollars a year. It all equates to indirect funding of our institutions.

At 4/11/04 01:32 AM, Ruination wrote: Rights should be granted to people who have sufficient intelligence to use them adequately, with the least of common sense. Some sort of civil hierarchy should be established, so the imbecils can be contained somehow.

Nice thousandth post... *pats himself on the back*

Rights should be granted to people who have sufficient intelligence to use them adequately, with the least of common sense. Some sort of civil hierarchy should be established, so the imbecils can be contained somehow.

I have a sure fire way that will ensure that something like this never happens again: KEEP YOUR DAMNED IMPERIALIST NOSES OUT OF OTHER COUNTRIES' DOMESTIC POLICIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At 4/10/04 01:48 PM, peedee wrote: why are we still paying income tax? wasnt it made just for during the war? im really curious about this, my history teacher was tlaking about on wednesday, and i wasnt sure if it was true or not.

You're definitely thinking about the GST. As for income tax, most people get a hefty return at the end of the year anyhow. *Can't wait to get his 1.5 grand next month*.

At 4/10/04 12:27 AM, RugbyMacDaddy wrote: What country do you think has the worst record for human rigths abuses. Every country at some point has had a dirty spot, but what country do you think has the longest and ugliest record. It can be for a variety of reasons from civil rights to genocide and anythign inbetween.

The worst record? Nazi Germany. Who's gonna beat slaughtering 6 million innocents?

You know pretty darned well that when the United States invades, its always in the name of world peace and stability. Every single act of retalliation on the part of said nations automatically gets branded a terrorist act. It's called HYPOCRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At 4/9/04 08:24 PM, greeniemachinie wrote: I think that part of the problem is that MPG just doesn't affect people enough for them to care enough to do anything about it.

Exactly. When people start paying 2 or 3 bucks a gallon, maybe they'll start griping about it.

At 4/9/04 07:18 PM, RotesStinktier wrote: sourcie wourcie?

I've seen a documentary on Discovery about this. It's quite disturbing, actually.

At 4/9/04 01:50 AM, RoteStinktier wrote:

You forget India. A nuclear power, which in the next twenty years will surpass China as the most populace country. They are privatizing / industrializing rapidly. As long as we're doing hypotheticals, I wouldn't summarily dismiss them.

India totally slipped my mind... With all the US job outsourcing that's going on as well, it just might give them that much more of an edge. I believe I neglected to include that country because China just seems to me as a more "agressive" nation. Call it historical influence or bias.. I dunno.

Any man incapable of properly chewing and swallowing snack foods is an imbecil in my book. Hard to believe he represents the world's foremost power.

I can foresee China annexing a few more territories over the next few decades. They are most definitely the great power of the east, Russia being sucked dry by corruption and cronic unemployment, and Japan still carrying limitations as to their military force. If they keep a military reserve with equal proportions to that of the US, they will definitely be a force to reckon with.

Its true, once any holy site is used to wage war, it loses its status of sanctuary. Such is my always humble opinion...

Breaking News!

Geraldo Rivera Reporting live from Baghdad.

"This is Geraldo Rivero, reporting live from Baghdad! I have with me today the illegitimate son of Saddam Hussein, born of an incestuous relationship between the blood-thirsty dictatorand a hermaphrodite with elephant man's syndrome. Also, later on I'll be talking to some transexual shi'ite clerics who want to come out of the closet!"

Credible guy..huh?

At 4/7/04 09:42 PM, RoteStinktier wrote:
But - the war in Iraq was not a pre-emptive strike, because there was no immediate threat to the US. It was more of a... preventive attack.

I sincerely hope you're not granting "preventive" attacks any validity. What's to stop any other nation from following suit afterwards? Israel and Palestine, Pakistan and India... the potential for disaster is just tremendous. The United States prides itself on "good examples", and this precedent is surely not one to follow.

At 4/7/04 07:29 PM, ineffable_fetus wrote:

So if say Hitler invaded poland and Czech, but then stopped for 10 years. And then decided to start making an arsenal of nuclear weapons, you wouldn't say a pre-emptive war is appropriate? Even though it's likely to save the entire human race?

...Were you by any chance an advisor for GW about a year ago?

Pick up a book, why don't you? An actual reference... not a spin-off of some sci-fi hit.

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