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Wow. I was going through my sentbox, when I found this: my reviews for the MWC for April. The results have been announced, and I don't know when the next NG one is. Hopefully, we can come together for a Writing Forum one soon.

MWC 11 Mar/April
TOP 10
1. Fim
2. Jessprw
3. OneChance92
4. WritersBlock
5. Jucama
6. TyredSoul
7. munio
8. lemonator
9. pipboy131
10. Firestormrules

Ratings:
1. "My Junkyard Heaven" by Zippy-MyMusic

Rating: *½

2. "Untitled" by Phobotech

Rating: *½

3. "Genesis" by Flyingdingo

Rating: *½

4. "Elemental" by MisterRPG

Rating: **

5. "Tick the Tock" by Pipboy 131

Rating: ***½

6. "Not my fault" by "oOwunderbraOo"

Rating: **

7. "Angels with Cardboard Wings" by TyredSoul

Rating: ***½

8. "DIE HAPPY" by Jucama

Rating: ***½

9. "Year Zero" by WritersBlock

Rating: ***½

10. "Immortal" by Deadmite

Rating: **½

11. "Rain or shine, we're out in the field" by Fim

Rating: ****

12. "A Reason for Everything" by BrianEtrius

Rating: ***

13. "Roe's Wild" by Jessprw

Rating: ****

14. "A Cat in a Tree" by Lemonator

Rating: ***½

15. "Diary Excerpts" by DasSG

Rating: ***

16. "Untitled" by munio
Rating: ***½

17. "On the Grandiose Beat" by OneChance92

Rating: ****

18. "Descent" by Firestormrules

Rating: ***

As you can see, there were three four-star entries, and six three-and-a-half-star entries. I went back and read these stories; the first half were so-so and of the expected quality; the second half were dense, with strong langauge, and of superb quality. This has me pumped and excited because I have seen the result of potential; I have read the stories I know we can write. Wow.

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At 9/11/12 07:19 PM, Dawnslayer wrote:

At 9/11/12 01:54 AM, DeftAndEvil wrote: Forum games aren't allowed,
So please disperse this crowd.
This haiku game
is very lame,
Let's write for real (and how!)

Haiku is no game
Its limits hone the writer's skill
And make him better

Haikus are a serious form of poetry. That being said, this is not. This is a forum game ("Haiku Battle!"? -__-*); those aren't allowed here, son. There is no fostering of writers' skills (technical or otherwise); there is no intelligent discussion; hell--there's no commentary of any kind. It's just guys going back in forth without rhyme or reason. The least you could do is discuss haiku, instead of peddling along in such a frivlous manner, you silly, silly man.

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At 9/11/12 06:43 PM, Gambit wrote:

At 9/10/12 08:53 PM, DeftAndEvil wrote: Of course, we are the 2.5% above.

Yee-haw!

This has me hoping the Lit portal never ever comes out.

Don't be selfish.

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Forum games aren't allowed,
So please disperse this crowd.
This haiku game
is very lame,
Let's write for real (and how!)

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At 9/10/12 04:11 PM, Deathcon7 wrote:

At 9/10/12 10:37 AM, Sharu wrote:

At 9/7/12 08:09 PM, DeftAndEvil wrote:

P.S. Sorry for that statistic joke -__-

haha, that's fine, but does that make us the 95%?

Yes, Ã'±5%.

Well, (assuming normal distribution) 95% of the population lies within 2 standard deviations. That means 5% of the populations lie outside of it; 2.5% lie 2 standard deviations below, and 2.5% lie 2 standard deviations above. So, we are the 2.5%.

Of course, we are the 2.5% above.

Yee-haw!

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At 9/7/12 04:00 PM, The-Great-One wrote: Interview with Tom Fulp

Wanna ask the creator of Newgrounds, Tom Fulp a question? Well you can! The Interviewer is putting the power in your hands to ask the questions. Just click above!

Posted.

Also, most of the people who posted have the cogency of a 12 year-old girl on Facebook (a point I tried to make) and most of the questions are hopelessly inane; so, at least one (if not all) of my questions should make it through. I highly urge everyone here to post a well thought-out question, since the average level of intelligence here is at least 2 standard deviations above General's. I can't imagine anyone's question being rejected.

P.S. Sorry for that statistic joke -__-

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1. What are some of the visions for NG's creativity (both short-term and long-term) since NG has seemed to stagnate and languish, especially in regard to "intelligent,""groundbreaking," or even "provocative" works?

2. Are there any plans for another Newgrounds Writing Anthology? The Anthology has been released, but the average NG'er has the attention span and literary cognizance of a fourth-grader (no offense; feel free to debate this). Do you see any prospect in what is considered to have a "higher" standard (although it is not necessarily a "higher" medium)? Do you see NG embracing this?

3. What are your current plans for the Writing Forum? What are some of the "tangibles" that would warrant a creation of a Lit Portal? (Increased output of decent literary works? Increased literary insight among members? Increased involvement in other NG media (via scripts, screenplays, or storyboards)? Financial potential; or, the success of the Anthology?)

4. In order to appease the slight (and vacillating--we realize that NG is free and nothing is entitled to us--) sentiment of negligence, are there any plans to introduce some of the following commodities for writers:

~fixed translation from word processors to posts (copy-paste issues, indentations, font/script format--low-priority)
~auras for writers?
~the ability to edit posts?
~the ability to store/share documents.
~the ability to use bullet points (this one is low-priority)
~any surprises?

5. What is one to do when a man steals bread to feed his family? If this is too heart-wrenching and you are unable to come up with an answer, then what is your favorite book?

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At 9/1/12 09:36 AM, Sentio wrote: I took part in a 'Battle Royale' a few years ago in the NG Mafia club, which would be an interesting idea to bring back.

Sounds interestin', but I think 4 is right in pursuiing a Jam. A Jam is more of a competition than a tournament. That is, everyone is competing for first place, but the competition isn't serial in anyway. I think it is important for the Writing Jam to be as congruent to the other Jams as possible, so in retrospect, a lipogram isn't a good idea for a Jam since a Jam is mostly focused around a thematic idea (not really a "theme" I suppose).

At 9/5/12 04:30 AM, Deathcon7 wrote: From Sept. 13th to Dec. 21st I'm going to be doing the Fuck Mayans Challenge. It's something I created whereby an individual must complete a challenge before the world ends. My challenge, of course, is to write my first manuscript. Would be great having other writers join in.

Knowing myself, I'd probably start the day after. I made this face when posting this comment:

:3

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At 9/3/12 04:51 PM, munio wrote: i assume we are talking content wise, format is not as importantin my opinion.

Format is half the story.

...pun definitely intended.

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At 8/31/12 09:32 PM, TheBigFatLee wrote:

Make it mediocre enough it's bad, but not mediocre enough it's stupid bad.

I think that something that is stupid bad is worse than just bad, so make it as stupid and inane as possible.

At 8/31/12 10:34 PM, EKublai wrote: Make it offensive, make it long, and NEVER hit the return key.

Never use punctuation, make sure you use a lot of caps lock, and eventually just start slamming your head into the keyboard. Then, if you want, punch your screen and start screaming like a lunatic.

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At 9/1/12 12:35 AM, Pulse-Nova wrote:

That is absurd, slenderman is the worst creepy pasta there is pretty much.

That's a bold claim coming from a guy complaining about bold claims.

I write much creepy pasta AND fan fiction

Wow. So, you must be a good writer.

so you're insult

I am not an insult. I think you meant "your." I would've assumed this was a typo, but your grammar and punctuation is pretty consistent in quality.

to those forms of writing really hit home.

You just said that slenderman sucks even though you can't have possibly read every slenderman story out there. In fact, I love slenderman, so you just insulted me, you ignorant pugilist (I assume you are into boxing since we are just making random accusations).

Just because Fan fiction is about something that already exists doesn't make it worse than any other writing.

Did you see me make that claim? Did you see anyone here make that claim? You assume too much.

You sir don't know what you're talking about.

Hm. Well, sorry if you feel that way. I doubt you will ever contribute anything to the Writing Forum other than your own threads, so I don't actually feel that sorry about it.

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How about a lipogram? A lipogram is a text where you aren't allowed to use a certain letter (or more than one letter). This will introduce an extra challenge but it will be fun.

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We definitely prefer text, to make feedback more convenient, or at least a post in your profile with a link here; you know, just to keep it all on NG. But, if the pictures are absolutely necessary, then I guess you're good.

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At 8/30/12 02:51 PM, EKublai wrote: BIG UPDATE TODAY!

Schweet.

Snow Can Kill by starwarsjunkie

This guy never fails to impress. Sweet action. Lives up to all expectations.

Songs about Love - 7 by mhzinski

Another guy who never fails to impress.

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Yo and yo. The first link is to correct copy-paste after you've typed it. The second link (look at Deathcon's post) is to prevent the problem during copy-paste; you can also do "find and replace" to replace smart quotes with this method.

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Some quips about format: remember that apostrophes don't translate from word, so those have to be fixed too; please separate each paragraph with a double space, since NG doesn't recognize indentations.

About the story: it's pretty nifty. I learned more about Creepypasta yesterday, so now I think I am having an easier time recognizing it. At first I thought that all Creepypasta was stupid and inane (sometimes intentionally so) but I now know that it can also be serious, so long as it is scary or unnerving. I am still unsure whether this is Creepypasta, or a traditional scary tale.

The story was strong in this regard; there is a lot of suspense (notice I didn't say tension). However, there are way too many hiccups; this breaks the cohesion and flow needed for a scary story. For example, the first paragraph is exceedingly simple (I think that's okay), but the last paragraph switches tense for no reason. "My grandfather never talked about it" is a better choice.

Next, the description: the setting is not very good, but I am treating it like Creepypasta, in which case it's fine. One thing I noticed is that there is no mention of clouds, in which case it would be sunny as hell, unless it was winter, in which case this is inappropriate; but, it is implied that this atmosphere is perpetual and that the fog was a one-time thing.

Aside from this initial exposition of setting (there is no exposition of time, just place) there is sparse description throughout. There are a few good moments of description: the barn, the guy's voice, the eggs. But, there are still several "hiccups:" the man's voice is redundantly described as "sick thunder" since you explain what it's like; the line "Funny. I like eggs" almost feels like a nonsequitur, since it is never explained. There are several weird sentences like that that throw me off pace. Reread this and pick them out. An example is "leaving me ... to my own devices." Which 8 year old says this?

Next, the characterization: it is very simplistic and cliched, but again, this is okay. The old man, woman, and villain are nothing more than typical old man, woman, and villain.

The ending is weak. Phrases like "he came back one last time the next day" are not only clunky, but should be removed. Also, it doesn't make sense. The guy gives the kid a letter, later the kid gives it to his uncle, and the kid comes back to see the stranger depart. You can see how this is unclear. Also, the ending is really what leads me to believe this is Creepypasta, since its purpose is primarily to unnerve, and not to present the "big picture." Although all the suspense is cashed in at the end, it is ineffective, since there is no reaction to the climax; also there is no denouement but it's a scary story, so who cares (again, not tension; there is very little tension in this piece. I do recommend reading about it. Right now, you mostly have suspense. There is mystery, but you have to make me care, i.e. tension).

Again, I am not sure whether this is Creepypasta, but it sure reads like it.

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At 8/30/12 12:13 AM, EKublai wrote:

If we are being technical about printings, this is the first printing of the final anthology. I have two prototypes. I sent 30 copies to NG HQ, and four have sold thus far. I would get it soon though, since more of the authors are bound to get copies and I've already got promises from a few friends to get their own copies (as all of us should be doing right now.)

Yeah, please be as technical as possible. What I am asking is, what does it say on the copyright page, and will it change from printing to the next. I am a nerd about books like that. I guess it really doesn't matter because I plan to buy a copy soon.

By peer review, you mean author-to-author? That's a good idea though it might slow the whole process.

Yeah. I know that some of the best writers here are also the best critics, so an entry should have about five people looking at it and discussing it (via whatever websites allow us this convenience).

And by limiting to one entry, do you mean in the sense that we used 3 poems by the same author or do you mean there shouldn't be repeat authors in the next one? Because that I do not agree with.

Yes and no. Yes, one poem/story is plenty so that it is about 20 peeps (12-5 stories, 5-8 poems, with stories averaging 13.5 pages, and poems being 2 pages, with an illustration). No, we should include anyone that was a work that exceeds expectations. Otherwise this is absurd :O

Yeah, I'm definitely not going with The Newgrounds Writing Anthology 2.

Some potential names for the next anthology:

~Bet You Didn't Expect a Second Anthology!

~Well ... Here You Go: NWA Numero Dos

~Newgrounds Writing Anthology 2: Modern Writing 2: Hardened Edition

~Hey, Butthole! Read This Book! It's from Newgrounds!

~Newgrounds Writing Anthology '14 (Assuming it comes out in 2013, this way we can be like Madden)

~Newgrounds Writing Anthology Episode II: Return of the Anthology

~NGA Volume Deuce, Mothafuckas!

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At 8/29/12 04:34 PM, Tives wrote: Slenderman?

I looked up Creepypasta and Slenderman was one of the things there. This isn't the first Creepypasta I've seen, and I don't completely understand it, but I do hope it's the last. However, I do consider Creepypasta to be one step above fanfiction, so I do encourage writers and readers of this genre to maybe write and read more traditional horror and mystery stories (you can't go wrong with Poe, Dunsany, or Lovecraft ... Stephen King too, I guess [if you must]).

Consult this, the creepypasta thread and try to grow as writers and readers while engaging in discussion. I don't want to participate, but it's nothing personal.

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At 8/29/12 10:56 AM, EKublai wrote:
Yes. But we will always remain the publishers no matter where this thing goes.

Am I safe in assuming the copy I buy from the NG store will be a first-first? And how long do I have to get one?

/ more pages means more expensive.

Not necessarily more pages (i.e. more people inside the Anthology), just more involvement. The NWA had about 200 pages of literature, which I believe is the perfect length for a collection of short works. But, I'd like to see more entries and I'd like to see more peer review. Also, something I'd recommend is limiting to one entry being accepted (and like last time, unlimited entries for review).

::

Yeah, I'm definitely not going with The Newgrounds Writing Anthology 2.

Some potential names for the next anthology:

~Bet You Didn't Expect a Second Anthology!

~Well ... Here You Go: NWA Numero Dos

~Newgrounds Writing Anthology 2: Modern Writing 2: Hardened Edition

~Hey, Butthole! Read This Book! It's from Newgrounds!

~Newgrounds Writing Anthology '14 (Assuming it comes out in 2013, this way we can be like Madden)

~Newgrounds Writing Anthology Episode II: Return of the Anthology

~NGA Volume Deuce, Mothafuckas!

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First of all, please go to the Lit101 page so you can learn more about what the Writing Forum is about.

Next, check out this link to correct the copy-paste issue from whatever word processor you are using. Check this one out too; I used this one and it pretty much fixed everything.

Last, don't preface a story by being snippy. It just isn't proper, my friend, especially if you are a newcomer.

Peace.

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At 8/26/12 12:44 AM, DaAtheno wrote:

I'm serious about getting the Writing Forum involved, and I do hope you find someone to collaborate, so I'll try to generate some buzz for this proposal.

However, there are steps you can take to help us help you. You, for the most part (and no offense), are nobody on NG. I checked your profile and you have two unrecognized animations. Seeing as you aren't a major force on Newgrounds, you can't just post "Hey mofos, I need a writer. Send me a pm. Peace out Y'all." We aren't that desperate. (I'm being facetious, so bear with me).

The first thing writers want to see is potential. Show us that you are invested and that whatever ends up happening will be worth the effort and the wait. Also, more information can only help you out. Please try to better formulate your plan and share with us what exactly you need, even if it's casual (scriptwriter, storyboards, dialogue, a short story to base the animation off of). y=kx, where y=desire to join, x=amount of information and k is a constant. As x goes up, so does y.

Sorry for the math. Hopefully, you find the writer you are looking for.

Best wishes.

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I'm planning on buying a copy. I was gonna get one via kickstartr, but I didn't want to make an account (also I hate how they spell their name). I imagine the profits are the same. I also imagine the book is the same (are there going to be multiple editions/printings? I'm not familiar with indie publishing).

Solid effort, and I think that now everyone sees that if we come together we can produce a serious, effectual opus. I share the sentiment with many Writing Forum members in that I am eager for the next one. I think participation should be at least twicefold. I would also like to see Deathcon's involvement.

The next one is gonna be a force, like the rain or something.

WRITING FORUM FTW!

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At 8/27/12 10:50 PM, mhzinski wrote: Songs About Love track 8:

I don't like reviewing poetry because--quite frankly--it is not my strong suit; and if I don't have anything meaningful to say, I won't say anything at all. Reviews typically consist of reminders of basic prosody and poetics, but I am sure that is not necessary. So, I am going to just give commentary as a reader and bounce off what you have written.

Also, you should consolidate all your poems into one thread. It is easier to keep track of them, it doesn't spam the front page as much, and it creates more traffic to your thread.

Cairstase - mh

Cool title. A twisted/spiral staircase immediately comes to mind. I wonder how this will come into play...?

you feel the words stumble out
of your mouth,
protracting your mind, time squeezes
to breathe it out.

Hm. You already lost me. If I read it more than twice it makes sense, so I guess it's fine. However, it feels unnecessarily abstruse.

A problem I am having with this first stanza is the rhetorical "you." The collection name suggests it is a girl you love, but I haven't been keeping up with all your poems. Unless the "you" is me, in which case, I politely decline.

Having all the poems in one collection should clear this up.

your footsteps glow in the
honest stone,
they hiccup and stumble away
without a sound.

I understand several meanings of the word honest (moral, pure, respectable) but none of them really make sense or are appropriate. The word "glow" has a positive connotation as well, so how can the footsteps glow in the honest stone? The following personification of the footsteps and the paradox are pretty ineffective.

the colors flow from the sides
of your face,
they swirl about in the breeze
when they won't die out.

Again, the poem is becoming abstract, but it works here. Still, what colors? (When I read the first two lines, I imagine rainbow sideburns; I can't be the only one) However, have you ditched the staircase? I figured the poem was going to be about a confusing or challenging ascension (also, I am not sure about this, but a staircase represents a vagina, according to Freud).

your stories blow from the backs
of your eyes,
those fairytales humble me
without a sound.

I see that "without a sound" has become a refrain, but to what end? I can only assume that "from the backs of your eyes" refers to the brain, but why you didn't just say brain is beyond me. The third and fourth line suggest that there is a deeper context to this poem, and that it belongs to a larger narrative, but again, I don't know.

the camera cooly slices the top
of your skin,
stretching you thin, it sneezes
and lets you out.

A cool way of describing a polaroid picture. I am lost though; what does this have to do with anything? -_-?

your faded projection hovers
over my head,
a hazy blue crumbling greed
without a sound.

This sounds like a dream or a memory, which is cool and sort of ties the poem together. However, the overall poem isn't very unified in its presentation. Maybe disunity is a theme? I can't be sure, but it doesn't feel cohesive, nor effectual. I think I need to read parts 1-7, but that seems like a chore at the moment. If only there were an easier way to do so....

Anyway, it was a nifty poem. This one feels more like a song than the other ones I have read. I can't tell if that is a good thing just yet, since I feel that more is yet to be revealed.

Peace.

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At 8/21/12 07:54 PM, EKublai wrote: I'd rather not be making this post since I sound so pompous when I write things like this, but after corroborating some claims...

I'll come back to this...

We are too small of a community to pretend...

Ok, let's not beat around the bush: this is about mhzinski, and the mob-mentality (as Deathcon described it) specifically the "Harvest Moon" thread. There was an incident with Deathcon and a user where the communication broke down, but that was over a week ago. I can't remember the last real critique I gave; the only other people I've seen give critique is starwarsjunkie (nice job btw); and, Enamour has given some super solid and really critical criticism, but they aren't offensive in any way, in fact, I think they were earnestly and thankfully accepted.

As I scroll down, that's all I see. An incident with Deathcon and a string of incidents with mh.

I am sure that we are cognizant of the lines (however fine they may be). Mhzinski has been called out for his critiques by Deathcon and starwarsjunkie in a straightforward way (me too sort of). He is a smart dude; he was aware before we called him out; he is aware now. If there is a problem, you need to send him a pm. There's nothing we can do.

I don't like engaging in "flame wars," and picking sides, but we are a group of educated and mature dudes, so this won't escalate. I am sincerely going out of my way to defend mh (although he can defend himself). He gives time and effort to actually read a story/poem and then give feedback. He could be nicer (and more "constructive") but I can't change him. If we all send him a pm we can come to some sort of compromise, but he's not the problem, he just somewhat exacerbates it. Seriously though, drop him a message.

Also, previously, you spoke of claims of uncalled-for criticism. We should be frank and open, and specific when need be; what claims are you talking about (I am pretty sure the above is what you were referring to, but I may be wrong.

The fact that there is heat...

I'm not sure how this is relevant. General's "discussion attention span" should not be a measure for our progress, and I am not sure how the two can be compared. I will say that I openly despise General and think the Writing Forum is at least 20 times better no matter what (but again, this is irrelevant)

. I know for instance, that DeftandEvil really likes "no nonsense" critiquing, both giving and receiving it...

With the what? I have never given a "no nonsense" critique. I always try to give straightforward and super constructive criticism. I have only posted like 3 stories, 1 essay, and 2 poems (my last 2 posts were within like 2 months; the one before that was over a year ago). I don't know how you came to this conclusion. I'll take what I can get (and I'm always super appreciative about it).

What I will state as a fact is that NO critique should ever...

Mind your audience. Who are you talking to here? Pretty much mhzinski, with a warning to the regulars.

Which brings me to my last point: This is the internet...

Same as above.

Hopefully, ...

I don't think you have. I hate generalizing, but this is your problem-solution: critiques should be helpful; we should fix this by being helpful. I see why you feel you need to bring this to light, but the fact is that we are all very aware of it. It comes up everywhere and all the time (we bring it up during threads, the lounge, Lit101). I will give you that I have been cynical in my some recent comments, but I don't think I have been offensive to anyone. It seems to me your beef is with mhzinski.

Done.

Dude, this makes your whole point seem like a rant. Not a good way to end it.

At 8/21/12 08:07 PM, Deathcon7 wrote:

As a whole, we really need to temper our reactions and not let those small flames needlessly grow into a conflagration that sets all nine Writing forum members alight.

Yeah, I guess. We patrol the threads, which I think is good. If someone posts a wall of text, has poor grammar or just isn't putting any effort through, we call them out on it. The problem is when someone sort of replies in an apparen-douchey fashion at our (I would say correctly) perceived well-intentioned commentary (sorry for that last sentence) We become too indignant (I'll admit to being guilty of this). However, I think we do a good job of containing ourselves (or cooling off) and not letting it explode. I also think we can come to an agreement that if no one has called someone out on something, one person should do it (whoever is first).

At 8/21/12 09:33 PM, starwarsjunkie wrote: I wrote this a few days ago as part of Lit101's tutorials. I think it is similar to what you said up there, but feel free to add to, delete, or modify it at will. Hopefully this can help.

First of all, I've been super impressed with this guy^^^ We definitely need to encourage the Lit101 in any and every way possible. I've yet to contribute, but that will change after I get settled back into college mode.

Anyway, I think this goes back to my point: we are fully aware of this issue and have been trying to solve it for some time. The problem has been plaguing us forever, and we are trying to rectify it. I'll get back to seriously trying to help people with criticism, but I am a lazy mofo atm.

I do believe in the Writing Forum, and I am sure we can reach our end goal of a quasi-haven for writers on NG. I think that the regulars and the newcomers can get along, but even then, we still have work to do and we all know it. In it to win it, I guess?

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Dude, you are coming off as too cynical and ungrateful. I wish I could have had someone like mhzinski post on all my threads since his critiques are unadulterated and true. I cannot speak for everyone on the forum, but you have definitely dissuaded me from reviewing.

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Well, color me interested and a little optimistic. I think a strong, devoted core of just a few individuals can get this thing running, and hopefully the pieces sort of just settle in. I haven't been much proactive about anything lately, but definitely count me in.

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At 8/12/12 12:11 AM, J-Rex wrote: Dimes was used because it rhymed and I didn't want this poem to randomly stop rhyming so I put it in their.

Well, I never bet a million bucks; I always bet a hundred thousand bucks, or as I like to call it "one hundred thou," but that doesn't rhyme either.

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No offense.

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At 8/9/12 08:44 PM, Evil-Dog wrote: Lol....what's so hard to understand, I don't wanna tell what my project is YET,

I'm sure all your followers on Twitter are quite literally shaking with anticipation.

I want dedicated writers to PM me, that's it, very simple. if you don't like it, don't PM me and move along.

If you don't like how people react on the Internet, please go back to the Stone Age.

Are you guys so fucking entitled that everything has to be how you personnaly want it? haha...I've explained why I'm not revealing the project details already. Moving on jesus christ on a pogo stick.

People on the Writing Forum are the least entitled out of everyone on the forums, so I don't know what you are talking about. I don't think you understand that we are trying to help you. Yes you've explained why you don't want your ceremonious revelation revealed ceremoniously just yet, and I think I've done a good job explaining why you should provide more info.

Not to be rude or anything, just saying.

I for one, sir, am deeply and utterly offended.

I'm entirely satisfied with the kind of PMs I get so far with my lack of details.

What kind of PMs did you get? I mean other than "what do you want?"

You'll know all about the project later

I am literally shaking with anticipation. Wait, I already said that. Jk I don't follow you on Twitter.

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Well, you are a big name on NG, and we're just--well, we're just dudes, so you can post however you like.

But, it doesn't make any sense. From what I've gathered, someone pms you and you pm them the info, which I assume is form letter-esque. It would've been easier to just post the information which would've increased exposure to more writers (also, details like which other forums you've posted this in would be nice; I hope you didn't post in General or Fanfiction.net, for example). Also, it would help to have some sort of process, at least. Something like:

I am looking for a writer to (insert job description here) for a (insert genre here) (insert medium here). The project will be headed by me and includes (insert other collaborators here). The project is will be (1-2 sentences about what it is). I have experience as (insert jobs/work here) and can offer (insert compensation here [you said revenue, but writers' credit is enough]). Please PM me if you are interested. Please include contact information (such as e-mail, or NG PMs), previous experience (writing work for other projects, writing contests etc.). I hope to hear from you soon. Thanks a ton, mi amigos--Yeehaw! (you don't need to include that last part).

Evil-Dog

Something like this will not just be easier for both of us; it should smooth out the application pool.

Also, I don't understand the reticence. Your idea can't be so secretive that you will divulge the information to any person who pms you, and I doubt it is so complex that it can't be summarized or described. You might as well make it public. And to agree with Deathcon: I sincerely hope you select someone from the Writing Forum.