872 Forum Posts by "darklad"
there's no need to elaborate further on this, you either are saved, or not....
lol, this is pretty funny....
i guess some take blasphemy more seriously than others....
if i lived in Saudi Arabia, i would've probably been killed when i hit puberty.
you scratch my back, i'll scratch yours; Putin helped the new guy to get in power, and now the new guy is repaying his debt to him.
eh, i see it more as a social class thing, rather than a racial thing really....
At 2/25/06 01:42 PM, x_Toadenalin_x wrote:
:It is worth bearing in mind not EVERY Arab is a terrorist
LIES! Every arab is a terrorist, every black man is a criminal, every german is a nazi, and every american is a dumb, fat, smelly redneck that drives SUV's and is trigger happy. What ever would make you think other wise? and i hope this deal doesn't go through, to show all the arabs that believe that the West doesn't hate them and distrusts them to wake up and see the truth, and stop living in "oh they don't hate us" fantasy.
At 2/25/06 11:33 AM, Lidov wrote:
It is not correct at all, maybe the lives of the Palastinians were misrable, but we did not kill 8 palastinians a day. Maybe one day we illed 8 palastinians, but we certainly did not kill 8 per day. We also didn't kill 7 per day or even 1 per day, we killed some from time to time, and if we killed them it was for a reason, not just because we are evil.
i never called the isralie's evil, mind you, the likud and the army were devils, i hope the new goverment won't follow their steps, and i can assure you that you did, you went after hamas and other fighters, you would find them, launch air to ground attacks and blow all the sorroundings with it, i remeber them vivdley.
you used too, maybe not in the cease fire, but before that, when yasser arafat was alive, do you deny that? i don't want to open a can of worms here, so i'll leave it at that, you might not follow the everyday lives of palestinians, or maybe you do, with the isrealie media, but i lived it, and you to deny the suffering and acts off terror the isrealie goverment has done, is as good as iran denying the holocoast
At 2/24/06 07:09 PM, Tal-con wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA. You're funny. Ya, there was absolutely no oppression by the sunni minority under Saddam's rule. Spare me.
yeah there wasn't, there was the oppresion of saddams family, not the sunni's, common error. About all the goverment was made up of people who are related to saddam, that were sunni's but were not appionted because of that. Saddam even removed family names so their wouldn't be any tribal wars.
wait, what happeden to europe sacred free speech that they so despetrally cling on? you know that one that said to the muslims to respect it and chill, guess the jews are above muslims somehow huh?
At 2/21/06 08:24 AM, MarkyX wrote: Funny how Israel is the most successful region in the middle east.
give any arabian state the yearly aid that isreal recieves, then try to judge "who's better", and UAE is by far better anyway
nothing new here, they slaughter 8 civilians about every day and say they were trying to reach a terrorist that magically popped to a crowded civilian zone, and they launch missiles, they chilled a bit in the sieze fire, they still did it but less, and now their at full speed again
yes this is a tribal arabian thing, it's called "honour killing". It's basically when a girl sleeps with a man without being married they kill her to remove the shame of the tribe. Condenmed by islam ofcoarse, it happens here a LOT, it was legal for a time, but after they found out people are doing it out of greed rather than anything else, like two brother murdered their sister to get all of their fathers inherantance, it became illgal thankfully.
oh shit, they started burnig churches, not out of the blue, some shit happened with a rumor and a quran. Anyway, it's getting a bit more hot here, sometimes i thank god that we have such a powerfull secret service in jordan, might be a litle vai dictatership, but at least your always safe.
At 2/19/06 11:32 AM, RedGlare wrote:
How does joining a movement that has vowed to purge the caucauses of all no islamic virtues and unite the arab lands and do the same things there supportive if anything thats a genocidal form of zionism.
wait, what movement? you lost me here, i said they used there muslim connections to score money and assistance.
To be fair Iran and Iraq did gas and use chemical weapons on each other when the west were supplying them. And i'm guessing you don't like Shia muslims last i heard the only difference is they supported mohammeds brother and have a different prayer. Iguess your sunni.
i'm actually part kurdish, and i soppurt none, i'm a liberal, and non relgious, these idiots want to take us back in time instead of forward, i have nothing against shia, there no differant, just a couple of teachings away, but i despise relegious extremists, i'm a strong muslim but i'm not a nut, i live my life normally, doesn't mean i don't pray and hold islamic teachings dear, but i don't go letter to letter, word to word
At 2/19/06 11:03 AM, RedGlare wrote:
Actually there are 2 terrorist movements in Chechnya one is nationalist in nature. The other beliefs in creating an islamic super state in the caucasses the Beslan Terrorists were from the latter.
they went to islam because there the only one's that give them soppurt let alone look at them.
And some seem to think kill Shia' and Kurds is the only way to. Remember in the first thread about the Danish cartoon where i told you in power vaccums everyone grabs for power well in Iraq there killing each other to get it. They already have a provisional government so its not about freedom its control these factions are after.
there is no such thing as "civil war" in iraq, let me give you this first hand, that is not true, if it was their would already be hundereds thousands dead, all they seem to target are american/western targets. This was just made up to give the americans more reason to stay. And i agree on what you say about the power vacuum. The americans made the stupidest thing, now that the Shia have controll, they WILL befriend Iran, and make a new nutty iranian state, they already sent deplomats to iran and both top leaders exchanged talks.
Bin Laden isn't exploiting anything he's a money man he doesn't even know where his funds go the only reason hes masters made him a figurehead is because America wen't after him. And the taliban blame America because there Islamic revolution as it was called failed and they needed someone to blame.
not really, theres more than that, the US made promises to Taliban that they never fullfilled and so on, much more complicated.
I think you'll find stuff like that was made since Israel was created those were just recent examples and what point are they making how intolerant they can be or that there better then the Danes at making people sick or making crap cartoons
no idea, iran is crazy like that i guess...
At 2/19/06 10:54 AM, mackid wrote: http://www.shoebat.com/
growing up i met a lot of arab traiters, we called them "mustaarabien" this guy is just on the isrealie goverments pay roll
At 2/19/06 10:47 AM, mackid wrote: TrendWhore wrote:
Wouldn't you be a zionist...That's why I'm a zionist, considering the fact that I'm a Jew. We have a distinct culture, so we deserve our own nation. Unlike the Palestinians...
The palestinians are there own culture, don't you dare to deny that. Jews have no culture, they lost it when they got scattered and mixed around the world. All your "food" is actually middle eastern, arabic, turkish and iranian. For a short period of time i remeber they tried to imatate the traditional palestinian cloths and cliam it their own, but then the arb-isrealie's exposed them, and they stopped. As far as "culture", your as much as a culture as any other relegion, no more or less.
At 2/19/06 10:46 AM, mackid wrote:At 2/19/06 10:44 AM, RedGlare wrote: Not very many European Jews thoughNope, there are very few european jews (a few in the UK but not many elsewhere)
in france they have the second highest percentage of jews after isreal. Europe has a LOT of jews.
Zionism is a belief held by nearly all Jews, I don't think I can make that much clearer.
In isreal itself about 35% of jews are not zionists, about all eurapean jews are not zionists, Indian jews are strong soppurters of palestine. East oriental jews don't care one bit about isreal, maybe in america, but certainly not in the rest of the world are the Jews zionists, but yes most jews ARE zionists, like 65%. don't forget we had jews in baghdad before the american occupation, and we still do in Yemen.
And the cartoon you showed? again zionist -_-
At 2/19/06 10:34 AM, RedGlare wrote: stuff
same exact excuses can be used for the muslims, for instance the Chechens do it just to try to liberate their lands from harsh russian rule. Sudanese rebels did it as civil war, and slaughtered other muslims, for tribal and terratorial dispute, not relegious. Iraq are fighting for there country, wether you agree on what they do or not, they seem to believe armed resistance is the way to go for freeing a country, etc. etc. Bin Laden is just trying to expliot islam to get soppurt to help him fight america for his own problems with it in the cold war times when america made taliban.
Iran makes fun of the holocoast because they don't believe it happened, and that the zionists made it up for world soppurt, and note they made it AFTER the mohammed cartoons not before, to prove a piont as well, how differant relegions are treated differantly.
At 2/19/06 10:17 AM, mackid wrote:
And there's always the issue of the double standard in terms of cartoons created by muslims...
We make fun of zionists, not jews, so that cartoon is incorrect, edn.
At 2/19/06 09:48 AM, GangsterRapper wrote:
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yes but the ones who made the holocoast were christian. The one's that started the KKK and slavery were christians. The one's that killed off the red indians and stole their lands were christian. The one's who made abu guriab were christians. The one's who created apartied in South Africa were christians etc.etc.. There's a whole list for each side, no group were near perfect, that list shows nothing.
The UN should help soppurt the democracy and help build both nations. It should also improve regional cooperations with the african and arabian unions, and international ones. Sending supervisers and moodaraters are also very important, because it can turn very ugly easily; it's not a stable sitution.
UN also has done plenty, it first gave Eritrea a right to exist. It tried to help ease the border dispute, then they pressured both sides to agreeing on a plan, so it's not fair to say they did litle, but they shoud do more.
At 2/17/06 07:00 PM, JerkClock wrote:
Actually I'm saying that because you confirmed what cadillac clock said, you admitted to condoning murder. Wether or not this was your intention is moot, because the violence comming from your country speaks for itself. You may condemn murder, but your fellow countrymen do not.
maybe the people who are lashing out, but i was argueing that the relegion itself does not allow murder and killing unless in self defence and war, what some extremists think is irrelavant and way out of proportion. There are WAY more murders in the US than any muslim country on the world, does that mean the US are murderous people? this will just be a chapter in history, like the KKK and racesim in America, and the Nazi in Germany, meaning it's just a matter of time untill the extreme relegious feeling will escape the people.
Eritrea and Ethiopa's rebels fought together for thirty years to throw off the dictatership, in 1991 they were victorias.After this each side started to move in differant directions and in the end they waged a war against each other on May 1998 till June 2000 in the Horn of Africa . As many as 100,000 people have been killed in the war, and up to one million people have been driven into exile.
More wars were fought over border disputes, UN and the international community did help to calm the sitution. Do you think they did enough or should do more? discuss
At 2/17/06 01:35 AM, JerkClock wrote:At 2/17/06 01:08 AM, darklad wrote:That's exactly what I've been saying you dunce. Do you have the reading comprehension of an 8-year old?
actually no, he argued that we don'y condem murder, i argued that we do, it's the other way around
ok fine, seems i suck at english or something, but i will remind you it is a second langauge to me, anyway, from what i understood he said we don't discoarge and ban murder, so i said we do discoargae and ban murder, doesn't condem mean speak against? seems like a mix up, sorry
At 2/16/06 08:17 PM, JerkClock wrote:
His arguement was that your religion was a peaceful one, you argued back saying that a proper translation of the koran pretty much ran contrary to that. Cadillac Clock said this:
actually no, he argued that we don'y condem murder, i argued that we do, it's the other way around
ya, pretty much
i told him ya, we condem murder
Thus confirming that your religion preaches violence. Then when he said this:
how is giving him a sura condeming murder makes my relegion preaching violance?
I read an english translation. Which was further explained by a Muslim who I'll admit was trying to convert me rather than teach me.
Essentially confirming that english translations of the koran that make it look peaceful are wrong.
no tanslation of the quran makes it look violant, you got this whole thing mixed up, read it again, slowly or something. Unless your pulling my leg, then good for you....
At 2/16/06 04:03 PM, MatthewTheLion wrote:
Wrong.
According to the Koran "disbeliever" means "anybody who isn't a Muslim". That includes Christians, Jews, Hindus, Catholics, Buddhists, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, Satanists, Atheists, Agnostics, Deists, Secular Humanists, Transcendentalists, and so on.
uhhh...what? a non believer is anybody who doesn't believe in the abrahamic relegions, their are many chapters that talk about jesus and moses in the koran, and say how muslims must protect and respect these faiths, through all your qoutings and seemingly great knowlage about the quran that you can boldly say this, you must have at least read it let alone study it more than reading a couple of stupid explanation on the internet right? doesn't seem so, one of mohammeds wifes was a christian, and the quran is based of the bible and the torah also, you seem to make shit up to prove your points or something
At 2/16/06 02:37 PM, MatthewTheLion wrote:
"Fight and slay the pagans (infidels) wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war." (Sura 9:5)
yes, part of this is true, but most is misinterputed, he was telling them about a war they would wage
"Their punishment is...execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from the opposite sides, or exile from the land." (Sura 5:33)
made up, never heard of
"Prophet, make war on unbelievers and hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them." (Sura 9:73)
this is true, but the "unbelievers and hypocrites"are the one's that hurt the muslims first and drove them to exile to flee their harrasments and torture, from mekkah to maddina, and the one's that played as ally's and turned to traiters in the end, they gave them many chances for peace but they always stabbed them in the back, he was warning them of retrusting
"Let not the unbelievers think they will ever get away... strike terror into the enemy of God and your enemy... rouse the faithful to arms! If they (the non-Muslims) incline to peace (accept Islam) make peace with them." (Sura 8:59)
yes, the ones that attacked muslims, kufar, from kureish, that kept trying to destroy islam, that once given the option to leave islam alone and islam would leave them alone and rejected
"If they reject your judgment, know that it is Allah's wish to scourge them for their sins." (Sura 5:49)
yeah, god will deal with them with his own ways in the end
seeing how europe is reaching the fourth stage of the economic develpment, and the muslim countries are at stage two, their's no helping it. Europe need people for jobs, and muslim countries need jobs, easy as that. Stating that immigration is wrong and a country cannot hold only one race and ethnic group is very similiar to hitlers vision, you may not like it, but with europe stoping imagration will hurt it's economy, and seeing how it's neighbors are muslim, there's no helping that either. Plus they didn't just "call" their famailies and they were there, the goverment accepted who to come and go, and promised them a good life to encoarge them to move, which by the way they didn't fullfill entirely.
pffffft who cares? they deserved it, arabs/muslims are second hand humans, americans and brits have a natural right to beat, torture and kill them whenever, especially in their own country right? abu guriab is a prime example of what procedure they should follow, and the regular raids, oh man the raids, when they enter houses and destroy every position they find and kill a couple of the kids and family, perfect, just perfect. i can't understand why the west still doesn't have public soppurt in th middle east, really staggering...
