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At 6/27/04 10:15 PM, bigkahunafish wrote: Nope: I would not give that fool who made that propaganda film one cent of my money...

So, how many cents will you give the fool that made Michael Moore Hates America?

By the way, as for running off to make Moore look foolish - been done. And it didn't do much good for Charlton Heston. In fact, it made him look like an ignoramus who couldn't face the truth. Still, keep up with the fat jokes, it always helps your "argument"...

At 6/27/04 05:15 PM, SKUNKbrs wrote:

At 6/27/04 08:37 AM, D2KVirus wrote: So, that's the review off Fox News regurgitated, here's sport...

Actually the fox website gave it a good review..

Damn, that joked died a death.

Anyway - $8m on it's opening day, $21.8m on it's opening weekend, first documentary to top the US film charts - you're all really pissed off now, aren't you?

At 6/28/04 09:55 AM, NoHitHair wrote:
In which case, I still agree with you, D2K. Why would they suddenly increase security? Why not before? Seems a bit suspicious and is probably related to 9/11.

Would it have anything to do with the recent (12-13 June) Italian elections? Berlosconi's party (Forza Italia - what is it with politics and football chants?) lost a fair number of seats, and amid claims the ballot was rigged against him, the terrorist card is played once again.

Bush, Blair, Berlosconi - never trust a leader who'se name begins with a "B" - especially if the Clock Crew pick up on it.

Oh yeah, nearly forgot:

"Everybody, boycott Swiss goods!!!" - The latest in a long line of idiotic crap aimed at the referee who disallowed a perfectly good foul from John Terry on Portuguese goalkeeper Ricardo, just because Sol Campbell bundled the ball over the line. Oh, and England lost the game.

The fact that it's the same as Americans boycotting French goods after France said they wouldn't join up Uncle Geroge's Good Time Crusade speaks volumes. Just like Jeff Jarret saying "You're either with me or against me" on a TNA broadcast.

In short: American attitudes are the same as whiny football hooligans that can't accept their precious team losing, and the Triple H of NWA:TNA.

At 6/27/04 09:05 PM, SubKutz wrote: Everyone is intitled to an opinion. People who come here for a free ride are wankers.

The fact that British people expect to get the free ride is the worrying part. Especially when they get pissed off that they aren't, so need someone to blame it on.

Next week, it'll be the Swiss...

The thing about 9/11 that most people miss (while going on and on about it), is that it was orchastrated for maximum shock. Take these aspects into account:

1.) New York is the largest population centre of the US.
2.) New York is also the base for a large amount of media.
3.) 9/11 guaranteed a large bodycount to get notice (2800+, as it currently stands).
4.) The sight of a large building being brought down will get attention.
5.) The WTC happened to mean more than just a landmark - it stood for commerce.

Compared to this, what has the Leaning Tower of Pisa got? Pisa isn't a large population base (in Italy, it isn't even near the top ten), there isn't a media channel based there to film it, 9-11 is the guess of a bodycount if it is brought down, it isn't that large (and gravity has been bringing it down for centuries anyway), and it is just a landmark - it was built as a bit of bragadaccio (being the largest church bell tower at the time), but that has dissipated.

Terrorists never strike small areas, unless a plane is blown up over them. 9/11 in the most obvious case in point (New York and Washington), but countless others follow this - the IRA focused on London, with occasional attacks in Birmingham (second city of England) and Manchester, Hamas attack large Israeli cities (mainly Jeruselem), and the Bali bombing was, again, a large population centre, and maximum shock could be gained.

The only thing Pisa could be used for is the airport nearby - and the terrorists would more likely aim for Bologna, which isn't that far, but has a larger population to affect. What, you believed Osama got a NYC guide and planned 9/11 based on tourism?

Who'se the goddamn moron here?

"My journalism was an extension of my politics. The main difference was I didn't make things up." - Alastair Campbell. Errm, which one did he make things up for, then?

"an't you guys control your State broadcaster?" - Dubyuh's aide, after a tough interview on Irish TV. Guess what? We actually prefer to get answers out of our politicians on this side of the Atlantic, rather than get brushed aside with a BS line and that's all.

At 6/26/04 07:48 PM, grand_retard wrote: All this anti-immigration bull is a load of tabloid propaganda.

The thing is, when Poland et al gained EU Membership, we were led to believe they'd be storming in through Gatwick, Heathrow and Waterloo International to claim benefits, cost us jobs, steal outr women etc, but it just hasn't happened. Could it be that, frankly, nobody in their right mind would want to live in this country if they could possibly help it?

I’m no fan of brown nosed Blair, but I do support Labours immigration policy.

Considering it's Blunkett, isn't it just another recycled policy from the past? Pope Martinez springs to mind...

Don’t get me started of UKIP, they’re just a lesser form of BNP.

The BNP in Blazers is the official term. However, they can't be lesser if they get more votes. And all it took was Kilroy!, Jonathan Aitken and Joan Collins...

At 6/26/04 06:35 PM, mabzie wrote: ferenhight 9/11 was an hour and 20 min. of makeing fun of bush. nothing else, often lieing and distorting the truth along the way.

So, that's the review off Fox News regurgitated, here's sport...

At 6/25/04 10:56 PM, Thug0r wrote:
This is just my opinion.

It involved the word "hippie" - like fuck it's your opinion.

Another note from the frontline of the Army of the Ignorant.

Wow, manages to sum up the last two Moore films in one sentence. Man, people are retarded...

At 6/26/04 01:49 PM, TheShrike wrote: So American landmarks are the only thing Al Qaida will ever target?

OK, then - list every other landmark they've hit, and what country they're in.

Actually, can you prove al-Qu'eda even exist these days, apart from in the fearmongering reportage that tries to confirm this time and again.

Oh, and lastly, when has Osama EVER said he wants to attack Italy? Besides, Rome'd be a better target than the Leaning Tower any day - there's an actual population there. That's like saying the next attack will be the world's biggest thermometer in Baker, California.

I could swear you're a goddamn moron sometimes, D2K.

Considering what I think of you, especially as you're playing along with the other dickheads in this thread (once again, the line of "What's wrong with protecting ourselves?" crops up, casually ignoring the fact that there isn't any need), your comment doesn't get noted.

If you can't see how it's nothing but a stupid, poorly thought-out reactionary measure that happens to be meaningless, you're the goddamn moron. That counts for all of you.

By the way, there's a terrorist standing behind you.

At 6/25/04 07:42 AM, Gobo718 wrote:
The article didn't say anything at all about the WTC. I don't think they're comparing the two. Besides, many places around the world are potential targets for terrorist attacks.

God, do I have to write in bold capitals I'M JOKING all the goddamn time?!?

At 6/26/04 03:14 AM, -Dr_Feelgood- wrote: So who saw fatty fat fat fuck fat Michael Moore's movie? I saw the fat slob on Conan spewing his garbage.

Oh yeah, you feel real good about yourself and fellow man...

At 6/26/04 07:48 AM, SubKutz wrote:
I could go on and on for ever!

Thankfully, we have the UKIP for this ill-informed rhetoric, playing up to the casual racism inherant in the British people.

Besides, being a lying, murdering shit is higher on my Blair hate agenda.

Everybody, slap your foreheads...

Come on, it doesn't even look like the World Trade Center, let alone mean the same.

At 6/24/04 03:02 PM, cjt321 wrote: well who is going to see it today the moment we have all been talking about

Apart from...well, the rest of the planet. I have to wait until July. Thank you, distributers, whoever you are (but, of course, it ain't Disney).

"The EU Constitution is a battle between reality and myth." - Tony Blair. And we all knopw who won that battle in Blair's moral psyche...

Surprise surprise, Farenheit 9/11 is released Stateside, and once again somebody's taking a strenuous pop at Moore in order to smokescreen whatever he says.

What's the term I keep using for this?

Yes - especially since we don't have Right Wing dickheads sending death threats to cinemas about showing a goddamn film.

God, it is so fucking tiring to read the same old bullshit from the same old mindset each and every day/opportunity (delete where appropriate).

"Michael Moore - he's a liar, he's fat, he dissed the President, he's a commie, his film's gay."

Give it a fucking rest - the herd needs you to chew cud until November.

At 6/19/04 02:27 PM, xsmorrisx wrote:
1)Do you know what the Constitution is about?

Having to speak German, 60 years after they last tried to make us do so.

The only guess I can make is that it will outlaw fox-hunting in this country - which Bliar said he'd do when elected in '97, then said everyone should "think long and hard about it", before having a one-time only meeting about invading Iraq for no reason. I don't know - more Iraqi ex-pats can vote than foxes...

2)What is your view on it?

The UK Ignoramus Party is making up a lot of shit (see above). People are just reacting like it's a bad thing because it's the EU - once again proving the level of casual racism abundant in this country. As if the British Government could do anything better.

At 6/18/04 12:59 PM, The_General_Public wrote:

Right, so the Germans and Japanese have spent 60 years apologising for WWII, so don't you feel you should start a few months early?

i don't mean to sidetrack the discussion, but Japanese history books cover all of WWII in one paragraph and define it as an "attempt to promote democracy in and throughout Asia."

Sort of like the way Bush wants us to view Iraq, you mean? Hey, the wording is about the same...

At 6/17/04 02:41 PM, -Brandon- wrote:
1) What is your education level, or year in school?

Finished with that shit - I've got a Masters Degree, and don't particularly want to go on to do a PHd.

2a) If youre in college, which one?

Undergrad: Sheffield Hallam University
Postgrad: University of Gloucester, Cheltselfharm...sorry, Cheltenham.

2b) What is your major?

Film & Media Studies.

3) What would you like to do as a career?

What I'm doing at the moment - writer/director. Really got to get the website up...

At 6/17/04 05:22 PM, xlaw42 wrote:

At 6/4/04 06:38 PM, chap-0 wrote:
I drive a Civic.

That a boy.. way to support America

Hey, three other people can fill their cars up - the guy's a patriot of the highest order!!!

A few weeks ago, I had the (dis)pleasure of waiting at East Croydon station for my train (late, natch), when a legit 350lb guy sat on the bench next to me. And what did he and his wife come up with?

"That guy asking us about Bush - there's a time and a place."

Right, so the Germans and Japanese have spent 60 years apologising for WWII, so don't you feel you should start a few months early?

American tourists do get on my nerves, because they don't understand that things aren't the exact way they should be, ie teh Same As They Are At Home. Be it on the Underground, a branch of McDonalds, they always want things the way they always have them, as well as more attention than the millions of other people who pass through the same place every day.

Well if you don't mind, would one of you tell me what the point of going on oliday is, when you want everything to be just like it is in Maryland or New Hampshire (where the worst of them ALL seem to come from - including your own country,as I recall from when i was in South Carolina a few years back)? The world is not the same as America, even if most 14 year olds try and act like they are American with fake accents and the like. Me and my girlfriend are off to Biarritz in a month's time, yet I'm not expecting pubs showing live football on Sundays, fish & chips, and a riot after France lose a football match (or win one, for that matter). That's the idea of getting away - you get away from the same old same old, rather than transpose it somewhere else.

Come on, individual States aren't like each other, so why should different countries in different continents be carbon copies?

"Farenheit 9/11 appeals to terrorists!!!" - Move America Forward.

"It seems to be left to us to make sure that the media is educated, as well as the American people are educated, as to just what they're (Michael Moore) up to." - Citizens United.

OK, so the former are dickheads (who can keep writing their letters for all I care - break our wrists, please!), while the latter are a bunch of hypocrites. Why? Because they bitch, moan and whine about Moore having a narrow focus and blatant bias, yet have a even more narrow focus, and are so overtly biased they come across as InfamousTM. In other words, moronic dickheads with nothing to say, but a lot of toys to throw out of the pram.

Oh yes, already there are people trying to defend him in any way (in other words, Bradshaw has one fan, which is strange as he did the usual "fat gay virgins that live with their parents" line about internet fans just last week).

Right, the idea is that by doing the "Seig Heil" salute, what Bradshaw was doing is a classic heel tactic, so he should be celebrated for it - because he didn't have a mic to say American beer is better than German beer (which I hope is also illegal in Germany, because American beer is undrinkable filth, on the whole).

So, when am I to expect him to have a match in the Deep South, and use the ultimate heel tactic of coming to the ring in a Klansman's uniform? Oh, wait, you can't defend that, can you? That's too close to home, and you can't make pissy comments about it, as those offended won't be several thousand miles (and a whole ocean) away.

At 6/16/04 12:30 PM, paul20z wrote: It's funny listening to all you British people who badmouth America and say we are power hungry. Yet you all love to mention that England USED to be in control of everything and that is why it's so great.

Not that you're learning anyhting from it, of course. Oh, and you still can't handle Iraqi civillians, so it isn't as if you can back up your bragadaccio in any way, shape or form.

By the way, "fags"? R.A.T in effect once again...

At 6/15/04 01:30 PM, LeapOfFaith wrote:
Tempting, very tempting. But he does have a point (even if he is a wanker) The EU has too much legesation, It's like what happened to Britain when the Normans invaded (1066 rember?) They implamented so many laws that people just ignored them. Becomming "outlawed" was no longer considdered a serious thing any more. It was a bit like having a credit card refused.

And, to follow up, how will Kilroy! be wrecking the EU Parliament? By not turning up to any meetings unless he can be bothered. OK, so that's a way to endear yourself to the electorate, isn't it? By not doing what you're paid for, and revelling in it. Still, there's plenty of legislation for this - it isn't as if there's a full house anyway, so this will amount to NOTHING.

Well done, the UK Ignoramus Party!!!