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Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted July 13th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/13/04 01:44 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:
- Downloading of Music/Movies Online

I really need to type up CVI. But I've got a holiday and a film to be doing for the next couple of weeks.

Anyway, I'd go off track about piracy hurting the film industry, which just made $1bn in a month. Hmm, doesn't work.

- Genetically Modified Crops

Weren't they to blame for the zombie apocalypse in Shaun of the Dead? Oh, wait, only in The Daily Mail...

You need to be English to get that one.

- Youth Political Activity

Well, at the current rate, Bush and Blair both have to appeal to people born yesterday...

Response to: UN rules against Israeli barrier Posted July 13th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/12/04 10:21 AM, t_12 wrote:
i totally agree with u

OK, how about we construct a wall around Ontario? Why not let the people of Quebec, Manitoba, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Ohio errect a huge great wall around you, and see what your reaction is. Would it be to keep you hemmed in, or to stop getting out? Then, of course, you should ask why they did that, and why they didn't pay attention to the rights of your fellow Ontarians.

It's fine and dandy to say ALL Palestinians are terrorists, for tywo main reasons:
1.) The US are funding, supporting, and arming the Israelis.
2.) They're a few thousand miles away, so why should you care?

However, what kind of worldview is that? Where is the section that happens to notice the Israelis are far from innocent victims? They're out there, but not listened to, let alone catered to.

And where were the acts of terrorism in Berlin, going back to that "point"? It was to stop people crossing over to West Germany, not blowing it up, so isn't a comparison. Same for the Alamo - the only reason that gets any attention is because it didn't have a back door.

The Great Wall of China was a last-ditch neccessity to keep out the roaming hoardes, who had a habit of sacking villages and leaving nothing alive - including livestock and pets - and building a wall was the only way to keep them back in the 14th Century. Are the Palestinians going to flood into Israel and kill every living thing they find if the wall is removed? I doubt it very much, somehow. But since Sharon clicks his fingers and the US come running to his aid, he can perpetrate any lie he likes. After all, it isn't as if Bush will send the troops in to Tel Aviv, is it? That's 20 million, highly valuable votes to be won or lost.

Oops, did I just say that?

Build a wall, you build a prison. Build a prison, you build a prison complex. Build a prison complex, the system that created it will be the target, rather than the walls.

Response to: Michael Moore is a BFSWM Posted July 13th, 2004 in Politics

Whilst waiting for my girlfriend in Borders last night, I grabbed a copy and the least ratchety chair available - and it was a pile of childish crap.

I didn't even have to get that far into it to realise this - inside cover has stuff about "After WWII, documentarians gave us the documentary (which, by the way, is wrong - great start). Rob Reiner gave us the mockumentary. Now, Michael Moore gives us the crockumentary." Put this together with the "Dude, where's your integrity?" jibe on the back cover, and the first chapter being a bitchfest - an open letter to Michael Moore, rather than Dubyuh, it left a bad taste in my mouth.

I mean, some guy can go around making playground insults, yet gets an advance and publishing deal which made him how much, exactly? Add to this the sales to the Bush Babies of the world, it smacks of opportunism, and no research. The fact that the jibes and so-called smart wording got boring real quick, and there was no substance after the name-calling, just galls me. Mostly because I live in the struggling writer stereotype, admittedly, but also because it gives another insight into the mentality of some people, and it's a view that is quite worrying. My £14.99 stayed where it belonged - in my bank account.

Response to: Michael Moore is a BFSWM Posted July 12th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/10/04 02:59 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote: Dear god, let this thread die already!

Can't we just organise some sort of cull? Anyone who'se first response to the name Michael Moore is "fat" should be castrated with their own tonsils, pulled taut. Either that, or make a sequel to Super Size Me - but eating McDonalds for a whole year, and they can't stop until their heart or the calendar year does.

Response to: If we had not taken care of Iraq Posted July 12th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/11/04 05:17 PM, secondmessiah wrote:
Locals not happy? WTF is wrong with you? Previous to our army being there under "false preteneses" they were having weapons of mass destruction used on them by they own government. They were being mass murdered and tortured. They don't care why we are there, they are just damn happy we came. And if you don't agree, I think you should go live in North Korea- I bet you would be pretty damn happy if someone overturned their government then.

I know, what a waste - Saddam having all these WMD, and not having the good sense to use them to generally wipe out the people he didn't like in one go. Or those invading.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!

Do you know how pathetic, in an admittedly funny way, it is to see people backpeddling and say the US invaded for "humanitarian" reasons, while at the same time carpet bombing cities because they were there?

"Weapons of mass destruction used on them by they own government"? BULLSHIT. If the US Senate says the pre-war intelligence was a pile of horseshit, and MI6 withdrew their "evidence", doesn't that speak volumes to you? Here's a hint - there were no WMD to use on Iraqis to begin with.
Backpeddling to being murdered and tortured doesn't work, as there are plenty of governments around the world that do just that, but the US doesn't bat an eyelid. Unless they're cutting a cheque for them, anyway. It's the same as Bush's lamest attempt yet - they found fertilizer bombs in Bagdhad. FERTILIZER?!? I can go to a garden centre and find the apparatus to build a fertilizer bomb, so when will there be a full-scale invasion of Blooms of Bressingham?

As for living in North Korea - why should I live there? You're the gung-ho type, so why don't you borrow a tank and invade for yourself? After all, the people will be happy if you liberated them all by yourself, right? Why don't you just charter a flight out to Iraq, preferably not sneaking in at night with the landing lights off (like Bush and Blair do), and gauge public opinion. Preferably without a camera crew, who have access to editing facilities. Better take an interpreter, unless you want to guess what they're saying. Which, probably, will be the exact opposite of what they are saying.

Happy the US came. Oh, thank you America! Thank you for casually bombing and shoting innocent civillians by the truckload, then acting all upset when one or two of your troops get shot back at. Same goes for the UK and anyone else that joined in Bush's Bash at the Beach. What, expecting a little bias? The only regeime change that will happen that won't be staged for the cameras and operated like a puppet show will be the one in the US this November. As for Blair, he won't be calling for a General Election just yet, but by-elections should give him a hint. A few million, to be exact.

Response to: we need wars!!! Posted July 12th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/12/04 10:23 AM, matt_mister wrote:
At 7/11/04 11:11 PM, Gorelax wrote:
At 7/9/04 01:09 PM, matt_mister wrote: !!!!yea!!!!!
get the fuck out of the politics BBS you pre-pubescent fucktard
fuck u

By God, I can feel my monitor getting dumber for having this crapola on it right now.

Response to: Iraqis are Unamerican Posted July 12th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/11/04 07:52 PM, AntiangelicAngel wrote: That was a statement made by W, if you didn't catch on. Still, I don't understand why forcing a system of government on people after killing their families comes off as American and patriotic...

Well, I think you'll find that it comes off as very American, given the track record they have. Patriotic? Hey, they need to be concerned about their wellbeing - after all, you wouldn't want a Pinko to be in charge of Chile, would you? Imagine the problems that would cause.

Nah, someone with a proven military record would be a preferable choice, and work out better for all involved. Or is this for the "Dumb Things.." thread?

Response to: Dumb things to say in politics... Posted July 12th, 2004 in Politics

"Because of the possibility of terrorists putting a bomb in there, we will not have bins at our airports." - The British Aviation Authority's long-held plan to avoid bombs.

"To avoid polluting the planet, we will be installing recycling bins at our airports for glass, plastic and paper." - The British Aviation Authority, doing their bit for the environment. Let's just hope terrorists aren't ecologically conscious...oh, wait, they still won't bother with a small fry target like Britain, would they?

Response to: UN rules against Israeli barrier Posted July 12th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/11/04 07:46 PM, AntiangelicAngel wrote: Psst... Great Wall of China. That worked. The Berlin Wall, that worked for the side that put it up for a duration. The Alamo, that was four walls with a roof...

And the Walls of Jericho came tumbling down. Your point being?

Response to: UN rules against Israeli barrier Posted July 11th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/10/04 05:46 PM, secondmessiah wrote: this is so fucked up- Palestinian children are taught to hate Isrealis and strap bombs to their chests and blow Isreali men, women and children up. Why do people critisize them for constructing a wall to keep these people out?

So, you don't think there's a connection between the Israelis building a wall, and Palestinians growing up hating Israelis?

God, the American victim complex is projected onto them, isn't it?

Response to: Dumb things to say in politics... Posted July 10th, 2004 in Politics

"Sorry, we have to confiscate those, as they're dangerous weapons." - French airport authorities, confiscating acouple of childrens' plasticswords. And I'm going through that same airport on Friday. Greattimefor the French to join in the terroristism insanity parade...

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted July 10th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/9/04 01:41 PM, EvilGovernmentAgents wrote:
Lesson #1 for work: Always carry heat with you.

*crazy brits*

I was*living*there, not working.

Did I just give off a bad impression of students there?

Response to: Michael Moore Hates America Posted July 10th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/9/04 10:42 PM, DrxFeelgood wrote: It's good to see someone tell this fatass he needs to shut his humongous hole.

By giving him plenty of material for his next book? Christ, people ARE getting dumber...

Response to: UN rules against Israeli barrier Posted July 10th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/9/04 04:29 PM, Thanatos_DTH1 wrote:
Actually, the article stated that the UK supported Israel also...

Yes, but we haven't had any opinions of our own since Blair got in office...

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted July 9th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/9/04 12:00 AM, -Wraith- wrote: We're talking like "Hey man, that'll be $10.99" pizza. Box and all.

Depends - in one of my old student houses, you could probably get the box under the door without even a little creasing, but a lot of dirt and dust on it.

And I still want my £100 security deposit back, two years later...

Response to: Whats the point to the 4 of July? Posted July 9th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/8/04 04:13 PM, AntiangelicAngel wrote: The point? To eat flesh and blow shit up, perfect to remind ourselves of the American Revolutionary War.

Eat flesh? Great, American is turning into Dawn of the Dead (the original, of course), and nobody notices...

Well, if the Mall o9f America is one of the most visited "landmarks" and 94% of Americans list shopping as their favourite past time (ahead of spending time with friends & family), does that mean I can hum the mall muzak to myself?

OK, that was a weird sidetrack. Blame it on shooting a film later this month...

Response to: Michael Moore Hates America Posted July 9th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/8/04 05:18 PM, PruneTracy wrote:
True, Fahrenheit had an actual thesis, and this anti-Moore film is pretty much shaping up as a name-calling 2 hours, but in the event it reveals something of truth, I'd be better off knowing it.

Well, it already proves I didn't make up rational American Thinking to piss off the highly strung dickheads of this board...

Response to: Ban Ferenheit 9/11 Posted July 9th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/8/04 10:46 AM, ExtremeGamer517 wrote: I will stand up with you and not see this movie.

Wouldn't it be better if the lot of you just sat down and shut up?

Response to: Iraqis are Unamerican Posted July 9th, 2004 in Politics

At 6/30/04 09:29 PM, red_skunk wrote: They also hate freedom.

They really hate freedom fries, especially if the side is liberty cabbage.

Response to: other threats Posted July 8th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/7/04 11:28 PM, stafffighter wrote: Recent bush ads have attacked kerrys anti terrorist plans for having plans for the japanese yakuza but not al quda(no fucking clue if I spelled it right)

There isn't an Alglicised spelling of Al-Qu'eda, hence the seven thousand different spellings of it - I try and use as many as possible, just to keep it annoying.

Anyway, it seems Bush is managing to interfere with other nations (going with follow-up replies), as Australia have decided to bypass logic and create a missile defence system...even though they are several hundred miles from any nuclear missile's range capacity (which is only 500 miles), and not exactly heading up any lists for terrorist acts. But, hey, they're "with" Bush, aren't they?

Next up, Turkmenistan wants their own missile defence system, and the terrorists agree with Bush on one thing: "Where?!?"

Response to: Dumb things to say in politics... Posted July 8th, 2004 in Politics

"We decide to join the US in having a missile defence system, even though our country faces no danger whatsoever, as it's out of the range of any missile aimed at us by several hundred miles." - Australian Defence Secretary Robert Hill, selling out to the Bush cause.

Response to: Ban Ferenheit 9/11 Posted July 8th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/7/04 03:40 PM, the-creeper88 wrote: I don't support this 'movie'..but, I don't think it needs to be banned..just ignored. I really don't care what becomes of it.

Erm, it is a movie - "movie" is short for "moving picture." What do you think it is, a puppet show? You watch C-SPAN for that...

Response to: Michael Moore Hates America Posted July 8th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/7/04 02:35 PM, NotYouZ wrote: Heh, it's not gonna do nearly as well as F911.

It's not going to do as well as Fire! Trapped on the 37th Floor.

Response to: Whats the point to the 4 of July? Posted July 7th, 2004 in Politics

Isn't it an excuse for Bush to raise the Dulux Terror Warning Colour Wheel for absolutly no reason, other than it's cheaper to do this than use cattle prods on everyone?

Like September 11th had any meaning before 2001...

Response to: Ban Ferenheit 9/11 Posted July 7th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/7/04 03:40 AM, PruneTracy wrote:
For some reason I can't seem to find this topic on FOXnews... or any other billion dollar news network, but it's true, and very scary.

I notice that, after the initial weekend, all the hacks are back to trying to rip into Moore in their usual manner - Junior High, Rational American Thinking. In other words, "Oh, you're just wrong, stupidhead!!!" See also: Michael Moore Hates America.

Yes, they couldn't hold off forever.

The arms dealers are buying theaters to ban themselves the movie that exposes them..... God, I love this country, help me change it =D

If it isn't them, it's the hardline right wingers trying to silence him. Oh well, what has Nebraska given the world anyway?

Response to: Michael Moore Hates America Posted July 7th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/7/04 03:01 AM, Gooie wrote:
since when is anything on newgrounds "rational"?

When the words "American Thinking" follow it. Where is Jimswhine these days, anyway?

Response to: Ban Ferenheit 9/11 Posted July 6th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/5/04 02:02 PM, PruneTracy wrote:
The fight to get Fahrenheit out of theaters is being won though because of the Carlyle Group... this week they just purchase the Loew's Theater chain and are shutting down the movie in ever ciniplex citing techinical legalities... Don't believe that those so evil men that benefited from 9/11 are trying to shut it up now?
Research it.

You mean this?

It's great to see just how scared the Stupid White Men are getting about 122 minutes of celluloid. Also, how stupid they're getting.

Think about it - they're making this film into a forbidden fruit. By doing this, more people will then seek it out to see what the fuss is all about, as there is the promise of danger from just seeing it. In other words, in trying to shut Moore up to stop causing (moral) panic, they are making him into a Martyr and, best of all, proving him to be right about the level of paranoia in the Bush Administration.

So, soon enough, his books will get the treatment of Farenheit 451, I assume? Hey, saves me a 1984 reference...

Response to: Dumb things to say in politics... Posted July 6th, 2004 in Politics

"We're banning Farenheit 9/11 from all our theatres, because we don't like it." - RL Fridley Theatres, showing that the First Ammendment hasn't reached Iowa and Nebraska yet.

"WMD may never be found in Iraq." - Tony Blair, stating the obvious, not realising nobody cares about that any more, since we know there aren't any there. Dude, we wised up months ago, why haven't you?

Response to: If we had not taken care of Iraq Posted July 6th, 2004 in Politics

At 7/5/04 06:38 PM, Raptorman wrote:
Yeah, there are it would be nice if we had the resources to take out every damn one of them. We can only do so much.

You use the same resources to put, or keep, them IN power, so why not just turn the tanks around 180 degrees? It's not that difficult - just move the lever to one side, and hit the throttle. After all, you can't castigate one dictator while accomodating another (Sharon) without looking a bit stupid.

I'm ignoring this for use of the phrase "towel heads."
I stand by my statement of towel head as opposed to a few far less printable tearms I would prefur. Yeah, I will call anyone who wants to kill me, my familly, and you mearly because of the nation you are living in or the religion your parents taught you (and are willing to slaughter hundreds of thier fellow Muslims to do it) a lot of things, towlel head is one of the more generous tearms.

I've got plenty of white people wanting to kill me, kick the shit out of me, and whatever, and I'm white. All it takes is not looking like a townie clone and walking through Croydon at chucking out time is more like Shaun of the Dead.

Trying to justify your use of a derogitary term with generalised opinion doesn't help a cause, either. I'm sure there's plenty of Russians, Serbians, Mexicans, Chileans, Indonesians (the list will go on, BTW) who hold a grudge for various reasons, usually involving the US fucking around with their country, fucking it up, and fucking over the people that live there. So, how will you describe these people?

The staus quo was a lose lose proposition that would run indefinitly. Getting proactive, while expensive, has the best prospects for the long term intrests of the US and Iraq, oh, and Europe as well.

Yes, because everything is looking real rosy now, isn't it? And what proof do you have that it won't be an indefinate period needed to clean up and restabilise Iraq now? Although I find it interesting you place the US as the first most likely nation to benefit ahead of the so-called "liberated" country, and a continent you castigated half of for not agreeing with you, before freezing them out.

What the hell has that got to do with anything? The removal of the Baathist government allowed the removal of sanctions. Everone wins (unless you were one those countries that had clandestine deals with the government of Saddam).

So, placing those sanctions there in the first place didn't cause ill-feeling, which gave Saddam a hook to join people together in hating America? And, yes, the UK had clandestine dealings with Saddam (Arms to Iraq, anyone?), just like the US.

Removing a government will not remove the seed which led to the feeling - worst case scenario it will make it worse, as one insult replaces another. Scars run deep in these cases - most conflicts in the modern world are the result of long-standing hostile feelings. You have to look at the former Yugoslavia for a very good example of this. How many Governments, monarchies - even borders and identities - have been removed, yet still the region is shaky?

Hey, let's make a conspiracy theory: In removing a leader, is that a good way to wash your hands of any dealings, as you can bury the evidence underneath showy ceremonies of "handing over Sovereignity"? If not, boy was it a waste of time...

We are working on it. BTW in both opinion polls of Iraqis and and in US reports on most things, Iraqis are better off now than before. Notable exeptions include sercurity and electricity around Bagdahd.

Do you think that there would be an opinion poll shown to the US where Iraqis said they didn't think they were better off now? Then, of course, there is the question of who they were asking, where, and what was being done for them - not to them - for them. Forget about Bagdhad and Basra, where the US and UK armies are stationed, what about Fallujah, um-Quasr, Tikrit and all the other cities? Are they better off, left hanging in the breeze, or somewhere inbetween?

Response to: Michael Moore Hates America Posted July 6th, 2004 in Politics

We've had this on this here board already. Read almost the same, actually - almost as if robots were posting it.

By the way, "hates America"? Great way to lie your ass off in a sad attempt to get butts on seats. Either that, or it reveals he actually does hate Wyoming...