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At 4/22/13 08:05 PM, CaptainCornhole wrote: This. Unfortunately too many followers (myself included) of Christianity are guilty of what you just pointed out. Especially in western society, many don't want to be bothered with going out of their way to lend a helping hand; tending to stick with their congregation or stay within a comfortable home, keeping to their self. I know in my life I'am guilty of those things, and that is why I need God.

Don't worry, my friend, for it is never too late to give yourself to Christ, and to be born again in the spirit, for turning to life may be difficult for some, not for unwillingness, but reasons beyond us, but it is always possible. PM me, we'll talk about this more in-depth.

At 4/22/13 07:38 PM, 372 wrote:

At 4/22/13 07:32 PM, badfurrykitty wrote:

At 4/22/13 07:04 PM, 372 wrote:

on the contrary my friend, You shouldn't take everything the bible say literally. I can assure you I'll be dead by now if I tried too

Yeah I don't but a hell of a lot of people do you know.

This is true, and sometimes people take single scriptures out of context and then flee their religion and/or do extreme things that are, if not more, unnecessary.

At 4/21/13 03:10 PM, Ericho wrote: I am specifically Methodist. I suppose that in the strictest sense, it would take me awhile to say what I mean by that, but I consider myself a Christain. With people like poxpower around, I bet there are many who would hesitate to say they're religious of any kind.

... Why's that? I'm having De Ja Vu.

At 4/21/13 01:10 AM, saqwert wrote: If there were another crusade, I would convert to Christianity immediately

Why, exactly?

My biggest accomplishment, is, my girlfriend. No joke. She's my everything, and I think seven months is pretty good for a teenage relationship.

At 4/18/13 09:50 PM, Smittytheghost wrote: I've been a christian basically my whole life.

That's good, I hope you do not turn away.

At 4/18/13 04:16 PM, PujPlianc wrote: Actually I'm with the Gnostics, the OT god wasn't God and that book ripped off older texts about the directed pansperma by aliens. I know this through gnosis.

I couldn't resist...

Exodus6:6-8:
"I shall certainly bring YOU out from under the burdens of the Egyptians and deliver YOU from their slavery... and YOU will certainly know that I am YOUR God who is bringing YOU out from under the burdens of Egypt. And I shall certainly bring YOU into the land that I raised my hand in oath to give to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; and I shall indeed give it to YOU as something to possess..."

final scripture:

Ecclesiastes 8:9- All this I have seen, and there was an applying* of my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, [during] the time that man has dominated man to his injury

*âEUoeThere was an applying.âEU( In Heb. this is a verb in the infinitive absolute, indefinite as to time and impersonal)

You hit it right on the spot, my friend. Now that previous post I made makes me look silly. :P Thank you for your views, you surely have proven a good point amongst this subject.

1. I was born into a Christian and have been to church many many times. I even went to those sunday religion classes. I took tests on Christianity and made my communion
2. How is it out of context? The bible is supposedly the word of an all knowing, all powerful, perfect God who loves all his creations, yet in it he states some weird rules regarding regulated slave trade...
3. It's perfectly logical to quote the Bible, THE HOLY BOOK, of Christianity to make points about the practice and belief of christianity.
4. What about what I am saying is out of context? I am saying that it is a flaw in logic to believe the creator of the universe, who is good and combats sin, would write his holy book with the mindset of a male slave owner in the 2nd century.
5. If you think I'm sharing my opinion just to offend you, you need to get over your semmelweis reflex.
6. You don't agree with me, that's okay. But that does not discredit my point.

May I propose, that in the old testament, there is stories of him saving slaves from a tyranny that had owned them? And I can see why you may be seen taking things out of context, for there is more rules proposed to something it says than a single sentence or passage, for sometimes in the bible, it will make a rule clear by explaining it in an entire book with clear examples to show us why it says things in it. I am only stating a proposition to you, but, you may believe what you think, for I'm not here to convert you, I'm only showing my views as you are, as well.

At 4/15/13 09:11 PM, Shauna wrote: God was just in my refrigerator last week.

You, my friend, have made my day today.

At 4/15/13 12:42 AM, SwankyVagrant wrote:

At 4/15/13 12:36 AM, CoolBerries wrote:

And God has lived far longer than that, always remember.

did you make this thread to just tell atheists they were wrong in a passive aggresive way?

Of course not, if you are athiest, or a different religion, or anything else, I DO respect your beliefs, I'm mainly here for fellow Christians or people who aren't quite sure whether they are or not. If I am offending you, I am truly sorry, for I am not meaning to.

At 4/14/13 07:32 PM, TNT wrote: It is rather difficult to call myself a Christian. I say this because everyone who claims to be a Christian (or any other branch of Christianity like Chaotic, Baptist, Methodist, etc.) tends to vary on opinions regarding what should be done in society. For instance (which I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up yet), we have the KKK. Very devoted Christians, yet they are very racist to anyone who is not "white", and are not tolerant to anyone who does not hold their Christian values. History has also shown them to be violent by lynching anyone who wasn't "white" for their political gain, which contradicts one of the Ten Commandments "Thou shall not murder/kill".

I would bring up the Westboro Baptist Church, but it has already been mentioned in detail.

There's a funny story I had regarding Christianity one day. Almost a year ago, I was moving furniture and boxes into my first apartment. I was really excited to finally be on my own without my parents or RAs watching my back. My roommate was still at his mom's house, so I was on my own for the first couple of days.

About a half an hour later, two men who were in their thirties noticed I was unloading stuff to my apartment alone. So they decided to approach me and ask if I needed any help. I told them that I'm in no need of help, and I wanted to do this on my own. The two men assisted that they wanted to "work", but that part went through my head thinking they meant "help". After thinking about it I decided to let them help by saying, "Well if you guys really want to".

For the first ten minutes it went smoothly, but then I overheard them talking about money. It occurred to me that they wanted to work for money and I had no cash on me, so I told them to stop what they were doing right quick. I explained that I had no money on me, and if you guys like to stop then go right ahead. One of the men was furious! He started to yell at me, probably thinking I was really dense or something, and I tried to explain it was a misunderstanding. This went on for a minute then he asked me if I would help move furniture for someone for free. I told him, "If they ask for help, yes I would." It was then I got the most interesting response. "So you're some sort of Christian? Because I'm not religious!"

We eventually negotiated and the two men left, thankfully the other guy was very understanding. Now, I brought this story up because he believes that when people help others, that makes them Christian. I disagree with his response. I help people out because I believe (I would say "know" but that might come out arrogant) it is the right thing to do. Christianity has nothing to do with my willingness to help others, and I've volunteered to a handful of organizations from charities to animal shelters. I can understand how some people who helped others get the idea from Christianity or the Bible, but this is something I learned on my own and from the community around me.

And regarding if I go to church, it's rare that I do. I have no disrespect for churches at all, but it's just something I don't go to on a regular basis. I've read bits and pieces of the Bible, but not the whole thing.

The reason why I find it hard to call myself a Christian is because I shaped my own character based on my surroundings. I also have some different viewpoints (I support gay-marriage, Christianity doesn't for example). For me, and this goes for any religion, Christianity is like a guide that someone could use if they are in doubt about the meaning of life. In most cases they will help them become good people, but sometimes it can be abused if they take everything seriously, or misunderstood a passage (like Al Quada, the WBC, and not forgetting the KKK). Personally, I believe that you don't necessarily need religion to be a good person as the community, education in general, and yourself can make that happen.

I think you are 100% correct, my friend. Christian organizations such as the KKK set a bad example for us, for it is definitely NOT our intentions to be like this, but sometimes people misinterpret what the Bible really says to people and people may make their own perception of it. And yes, I do find it ironic some Christians decide to go extreme, and against their own base beliefs, and that people are in the religion for political reasons, which I think should not be done, for the Bible doesn't tell you about how to be a good politician, but it does teach you to be a good person. About your story, I agree, you don't have to be Christian to be a good person, either, but Christianity does support it, and help you become of which. With the church, I used to be the same, I used to never go to church, like, ever, until I entered a youth group at the beginning of eighth grade. I got saved, and didn't think it a big deal, but I listened more in depth to the scriptures, and I was moved to what Jesus had to say as well as God's teachings. And, you know what, I agree with you in Gay Marriage, I fully do support it, though I know God writes he does not support homosexuality clearly in the bible. But, to be honest, if there was one bible verse I would want to take out, it would be the one that states that, for I think it only makes a mess of things, community wise, religious wise, political wise, love wise, Everything Wise, and I really wish it didn't. Let's talk about this via PM, for your views are indeed reasonable, and I would like to discuss them more.

At 4/14/13 07:31 PM, Sequenced wrote:

At 4/14/13 07:18 PM, ruinitforme wrote:

The first half of the Bible was written before the Romans even existed, i.e. Old Testament.

Not sure if trolling or dumb.

someone doesn't know their history. Romans have been around more than 600 years BC.

And God has lived far longer than that, always remember.

I was raised by a devout Seventh-Day Adventist family. When I turned 15, there was something missing. I dug deeper into the meaning and my life.
To make a long story short, I am now free from religious titles and have reverted back to what I believe is 'right.' I dropped all belief that one religion has and broke off to basically create my 'own'. I just go with what I believe is right. Many would call me an idealist but I see it on a bigger scale. There is definitely something that controls space and time, whether it be God or God in the Force I don't know. What I do know however is that there is a right and wrong/good and evil. We can only hope that in time, we will come close to hoping to understand it.
I do in fact believe in God, so I would consider myself to be a 'christian' in it's meaning.

Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The "Force"(God et.) shall free me.

You know, people like you make me smile. In fact, you reflect a little bit of Jesus in you, for you understand the depth perception this life has to serve you, and you do have the ability to oversee living other than how people treat you as a human. I would recommend you study in depth some more, if you are willing. Call me up!

At 4/14/13 02:11 PM, bradleythatguy wrote:

At 4/10/13 11:58 PM, CoolBerries wrote: Who here, on Newgrounds, can say with confidence that they are a Christian? And yes, being Catholic, Presbyterian or anything like that counts. I just want to see the responses that you may have.

Christainty=mostly stupid, close minded, idiots. Atheist= smart, open minded, human beings.

Then why were some of the greatest minded people we've known Christian? Why have most of us Christians discover the sciences you athiests point to today? Being Christian doesn't mean you are not logical or intelligent, or that we don't believe in science, or even evolution. This is only a stereotype most people put on us, stopping many from seeing the wonders that may happen in their lives.

At 4/13/13 12:29 AM, mothballs wrote: Not trying to start a flame war with the following comment. Just something to think about if you are Christian.

It's one thing to actually be Christian because you believe it is the correct way of life. But it's another thing to say you are Christian because your parents tell you to be, and at the same time believe things like homosexuality and abortion to be ok. That just shows that you are brainwashed and are blindly following.

Sorry if I pissed anyone off (which I likely did) but it just really, really bothers me when someone claims to be a Christian and completely goes against all of the beliefs of Christianity at the same time.

Would it be a sin, disobeyment, or misunderstoodment if a Christian didn't mind Gay Marriage, though? Sex and living are two different things, if I am correct, and I am actually asking you this, for I think it is a people's choice of what they do, and whether they want God to forgive them or not is also their's and their's only choice. I, for example, am not against Gay Marriage, it may be a sin for homosexuallity to take place in one, but I do not think one should not have rights to. May we talk about this on PM? this is a difficult subject to publicity, but I understand what you are saying.

At 4/13/13 12:33 AM, ruinitforme wrote:

At 4/13/13 12:26 AM, CoolBerries wrote:

At 4/12/13 05:34 PM, Dragen wrote:

At 4/11/13 02:09 PM, Ali wrote: Why are you even making this thread?

You know a lot of people will flame on here and get butthurt.

Are there really any Christianson here? It doesn't make sense on a site like this.

There are Christians in China, more of a percentage than in the United States, and it is illegal there. Light does not come to a place absent of light for no reason, I only felt like bringing support to those who may shed light, and to seek out ones who are willing to.

You have really made an ass of yourself. You obviously do not know scripture at all at need to read the verse about judging others. You come to Newgrounds of all places with your trendy cross icon, bible thumping and talking out of your ass. You type of people make real Christians look bad, and you should be ashamed.

I am ashamed that people are doing nothing of Christianity like you, who are selfish enough to keep your own belief in secret, for Jesus told us to spread the good news to all people, and if you were to look at any other of my icons, this one is just like the others. And, if I am truly making Christians look bad, it is from what I am doing right now, not from my intentions. Did you know Jesus was thought the same exact way? He was a "Disgrace to the Jewish", and people doubted him from when he was born, to when he died AND when he rose again, but my question is, am I your stereotype or your first sight?

At 4/12/13 05:34 PM, Dragen wrote:

At 4/11/13 02:09 PM, Ali wrote: Why are you even making this thread?

You know a lot of people will flame on here and get butthurt.

Are there really any Christianson here? It doesn't make sense on a site like this.

There are Christians in China, more of a percentage than in the United States, and it is illegal there. Light does not come to a place absent of light for no reason, I only felt like bringing support to those who may shed light, and to seek out ones who are willing to.

At 4/12/13 05:06 PM, Ragnarokia wrote:

At 4/10/13 11:58 PM, CoolBerries wrote: Who here, on Newgrounds, can say with confidence that they are a Christian?

What is your problem with people believing what they like? Why is it a bad thing to say with confidence? religionist prick.

I don't have a problem with it, but I don't have a perception, either. You don't know how dark a room is until you walk into it, hmmm? It's not a bad thing to say something in confidence, I believe it's a good thing to, for if you are not sure of what you are and have, you do not have it and aren't of it. I know this would eventually cause people to be against me, but I'm not going to be feeding the spark that may burn my house down, of course. Do you not agree?

At 4/12/13 03:44 PM, FrozenFire wrote: Atheist.

I associated Jesus and God with Santa and the Easter Bunny as a kid. I was always skeptical of their existence, and when I confirmed the last two to be a hoax I just assumed I was right on all counts.

Then I went to a camp with all my friends, and we had bible study for like an hour every day. I didn't want to ruin it for them so I just kept my mouth shut, but then I realized even the 18 year old counselors still believed in this nonsense so I took a much deeper look and still came to the same conclusion.

My parents taught Sunday school, I went to bible schools, I've read the bible..

All I've really learned throughout my life is how superior our species wants to feel towards others. Big dick syndrome.

Maybe it's only you haven't seen the ways of God that make you understand clearly, not an uncommon thing for many people, including adults, us Christians sometimes just assume others are Christian, sadly, we never bring it out of the church, and it's not just stories of miracles either, it's the way of enlightenment, forgiveness, grace, glory, and eternity.

I may sound crazy, but some people focus on the wrong things in Christianity, if you are willing to talk about it, PM me. What is also great about it, it not only helps you know about God's story, as the creator, but helps your morals, too, the Gospel is not called the "Good News" for no reason, because that is what is stated, it is good for everything.

At 4/12/13 02:48 PM, 372 wrote:

At 4/12/13 02:37 PM, Slint wrote:

At 4/12/13 02:35 PM, 372 wrote: What? My best friend was raised without religion and when I was curious he explained to me why he didn't believe religious teaching and I looked into and I agreed
Why are you so immature lol

You stopped being religious at 11.
I'm immature.
Okay.

Yes because your religion is so logical an 11 year couldn't possibly google why it's fucking retarded and get a million results...

If you want to find the intelligence of God and his glory, you might want to ask Him. If not, you do not need to argue, but if you are disclosed to religion, I am not here to tell you what to do.

At 4/12/13 02:37 PM, Slint wrote:

At 4/12/13 02:35 PM, 372 wrote: What? My best friend was raised without religion and when I was curious he explained to me why he didn't believe religious teaching and I looked into and I agreed
Why are you so immature lol

You stopped being religious at 11.
I'm immature.
Okay.

Remember the Golden Rule, guys, if you have agreements or disagreements, you don't need to fight about it, you may simply talk to another about it, and whether you agree or disagree, or are willing to find which one you are, you may private message me.

My parents and and aunts and uncles are all Christians, their parents are Christians, so naturally I grew up in a very Bible-and-church-centered environment. I got saved when I was about 4 years old, and I've very slowly but steadily been growing closer to God ever since then.

Sounds like you've been brainwashed. Ever consider thinking for yourself?

This why I am against religion. It doesn't accept individuality. I'm not hating on people that are religious - I just don't like the idea of it.

I was raised in christian family.. But after a few changes in life and suffering from severe depression, I've discovered that I could think logically and live life without following any religion. I still believe in the possibility of a god, because you can not disprove or prove he exists.

This is where I disagree,many people believe religion is a type of brainwash, and that it destroys people as their person, but this is not the case. Believe it or not, I used to think precisely like this after going through depression in the 6th grade, but a few years after that, I quickly discovered my mistake. The purpose of religion, or, you don't even have to call it religion, you may call it worship, spirituallity, or even to some sciencey guys, "Presence theories", not that I agree are just theories, anyway, the purpose was for us people to know the one who created us, so that we are not alone, and for us to know that that one loves us, and doesn't want us to die. God sent his only child to save the world from darkness and death, he loved us so much, so that we did not have to die, but have eternal life in the grace of God, and it's not earned by a magic prayer, certain quality in life, or a following instruction to what to do each and every day, this is how Christianity is different from every other religion out there, for you don't earn your way to heaven just by following the rules, you just need to have faith, and to recognize God is in your life, and that's it. What's great about it, is that if you have felt you have fallen short or screwed up, you can pray for forgiveness from your sin, and He will ever forget them "From East is to the West". I'm doing this to prove that you are wrong, I am only saying this to show the other viewpoint, please take into consideration. Thank you for reading.

John 3:16

At 4/11/13 02:10 PM, mandog wrote: I'm a christian, I have yet to read the bible, I have read scriptures, don't goto church because everytime I have went I have heard bullshit, everytime, I don't feel like a church is a place to worship god, I worship him at my home, the correct place.

I see what you mean, I used to be the same way. Have you tried a different church? I've tried many until I reached my comfort, and not only did I get saved at my current one, I found my first experience of love.

At 4/11/13 02:09 PM, Ali wrote: Why are you even making this thread?

You know a lot of people will flame on here and get butthurt.

Treat unto others as you would like yourself to be treated, we're not here to argue about a religion we might or might not share, we're here to see what people think, and that if one may share the same beliefs as others, we may support it. The internet has good purposes to people, too, and I'm here to show it.

At 4/11/13 02:06 PM, Satan wrote: Certain religious groups are fucking insane, though, the WBC being the perfect example of what I consider scum of the earth, they do nothing but promote hatred towards homosexuals, and people who don't fit into their cult like ways, I'd gladly burn their place of worship to the ground, preferably with them all inside of it, if given the chance, they have caused too much shit for me to give them any sympathy, you may call me a bastard, or insane for thinking like this, but I am sure you can all agree with me, when I say my reasons are more than justified.

So, for the record, OP, whether you believe in what I believe in or not, you're a cool guy in my books, as long as you don't bother me about my own beliefs, or try to be a cunt towards myself, or someone who I like.

I see where you're coming from, and I do agree with you. And if you do not choose to accept my beliefs into your life, then I won't bother you specifically with them.

At 4/11/13 02:06 PM, Satan wrote: Certain religious groups are fucking insane, though, the WBC being the perfect example of what I consider scum of the earth, they do nothing but promote hatred towards homosexuals, and people who don't fit into their cult like ways, I'd gladly burn their place of worship to the ground, preferably with them all inside of it, if given the chance, they have caused too much shit for me to give them any sympathy, you may call me a bastard, or insane for thinking like this, but I am sure you can all agree with me, when I say my reasons are more than justified.

So, for the record, OP, whether you believe in what I believe in or not, you're a cool guy in my books, as long as you don't bother me about my own beliefs, or try to be a cunt towards myself, or someone who I like.

I actually do see where you're coming from there, you're not insane, and if you do not choose to accept Christianity into your own, I will not bother you with it.

At 4/11/13 01:43 PM, Baby-Bottle-Bob wrote: I think it would be excruciatingly hard for a Christian to co-mingle on this site. All this gayness. All this fuck. Would be hell for a christian in my eyes.

You would be surprised what God can do for people, and what people can do for people. If one may bring joy in preaching to a culture not of the same language, one may do the same works for a message board on an online community, I believe, but I see where you're coming from.

At 4/11/13 01:21 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: Jews are superior.

How inappropriate. Not to be rude, but still.

At 4/11/13 02:18 AM, Luxury-Yacht wrote:

At 4/11/13 02:06 AM, Tremulos wrote:

A very important Biblical principle to keep in mind; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of the Lord.

holy shit this is creepy

Funny, when I first heard that phrase I thought the same thing, but it's grown to make sense and great meaning over the years.