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Response to: Slizor's Undeniable Truths Posted March 13th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/13/02 05:37 AM, Slizor wrote:
Give me an example of communism working on a fairly large scale. It doesn't.
"Okay, we haven't followed the recipe, but the recipe obviously doesn't work"

The why do you believe in communism if you admit it doesn't work?


Capitalism under a democracy, that works. Give me free trade to socialism any day.
The Great Depression, clearly shows it doesn't work. And the US is not a democracy.

The Great Depression is a single incident. Reforms have been made since then.

And the US is a democracy. Yes, it is a republic, but that is a form of democracy. There the republic form where we vote for our leaders who vote on laws and make decisions and there is direct democracy where the people vote on everything but that isn't feasible in a modern society. People aren't intelligent and informed enough and it would not be an efficient way of running a country.

Democracy is a concept, rule by the majority. That is what we do, whatever or whoever the majority votes for is done.

Response to: The next Great Depression Posted March 13th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/12/02 10:17 PM, KaneOfNod wrote: CK25, you DO know I was being sarcastic, correct? :)

Oh.

Response to: Slizor's Undeniable Truths Posted March 12th, 2002 in Politics

Give me an example of communism working on a fairly large scale. It doesn't.

Capitalism under a democracy, that works. Give me free trade to socialism any day.

Response to: Rush's Undeniable Truths Posted March 12th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/12/02 12:22 PM, Slizor wrote:
Read "The Physics of Immortality" by Frank Tipler. Scientific proof of god, heaven and resurrection.
If this is so well proven, then why isn't it everywhere? Why haven't people all over the world been investigating it?

Tipler offers a scientific theory, and proof thereof, for a scientific view of god.

They need a post to fill. Surely you don't believe that America is a land of endless jobs..do you?
They can't get any decent job without trade skills and education.
It wasn't a rhetorical question.
How we "piss them off" is by helping our allies. You know why bin Laden's so mad at us? We have troops in Saudi Arabia, the holy land, at the government's request. If anything, he should be bombing the Saudis for letting us in the country if he's so mad about it.
He also claims the situation in Israel, which as he says is far more of an issue.

Surely you aren't so easily deceived. Bin Laden just recently started making his Palestinian "brothers" a major issue. It's a gimmick, a tactic to make it seem like he's the underdog hero of the entire Arab world which he's not. He's pandering to the crowd for sympathy and support. The Palestinians mean nothing to him.


I wouldn't be sure about some of these figures. After 9/11, they estimated that 5,000-6,000 people died in the WTC,but now the figure is about 2,800.
Those are two totally different circumstances.

How so?

Response to: Spanish as an official U.S language Posted March 12th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/12/02 03:13 PM, agent23 wrote: fair enough, though i find it hard to believe americans came up with mashed potatoes, green beans and cranberries. also what's gumbo? what would anyone say are the major differences in american and canadian culture, no offence to any party but they both look pretty similar from my point. and surely canada has some native dishes.

Cranberries are native to North America, I think. Of course, they may grow in Canada as well, it is part of N. America, obviously. Gumbo is a sort of stew-like dish in which the broth is made of a flour based roux, and into it is added numerous spices, seasonings and a wide variety of vegetables and meats. Fish, crawfish, shrimp, chicken, rice, etc. It's very good.

Response to: Anarchy the idealistic utopia Posted March 11th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/10/02 08:30 AM, Slizor wrote:
all anarchists should be draged out into the streets and shot
So should all Americans.

Hey, while we're at it let's just shoot everybody!*

*NOTE: This is complete and utter sarcasm and does not reflect the views of the author in any way, shape, form or fashion. This disclaimer is posted so that this comment will not be misconstrued and twisted out of context later. Thank you.

Response to: Spanish as an official U.S language Posted March 11th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/11/02 11:30 AM, agent23 wrote:
At 2/26/02 09:28 PM, Commander-K25 wrote: Canada doesn't even have a clear culture. When do you ever say, "Hey, lets go get some Canadian food for dinner."
who ever said "let's go get some american!"
what is american food? maccy D's?

Let me guess, you're probably Canadian, right? What is American food?

Apple pie, Coca-Cola, meatloaf, country wheat rolls, roast turkey, mashed potatos, green beans, squash, corn-on-the-cob, cranberries, etc. Many of these are even native to the Americas. Even pizza, was made into its current form in NY and Chicago. Yes, it was originally based on a dish imported by italian immigrants but that's what America is all about, the blending of cultures into something unique. We didn't invent the original dish but we modified it, blended it and made it uniquely different.

Let's see, there's also regional foods like cajun in Louisiana, great crawfish, gumbo, creole, etc.

BTW, the hot dog in its current form was made invented by a sausage vendor in New York.

Response to: Slizor's Undeniable Truths Posted March 11th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/10/02 08:25 AM, Slizor wrote:
True communism can never exist because of greed and want of power so all communist nation has and will remain to be "bastardized"
You're claiming human nature. Prove it.

It has been proven, USSR, China, N. Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Cambodia, Eastern Europe, etc. You're going to say, "But these places aren't true communist systems." That's exactly my point. They all started off wanting to fulfill the socialist ideal but instead they were hijacked by greedy dictators and weakened by a failure of the work ethic in the people. They were corrupt from the top and rotting from the base. True communism can't be created, maybe for a little while, but it never lasts.

It's like trying to simulate the temprature of absolute zero in a lab. You can get very close but you can never attain because you're equipment freezes before you can reach it. It destroys itself.

Response to: Big Black Lies Posted March 11th, 2002 in Politics

I think that Biseor makes a good point about all the militant organizations like the Black Panthers. If I and a bunch of people all got rifles and made a big demonstration, or held a rally shouting "White Power", we'd be lucky if we weren't mobbed. There'd be a riot because it would immediately be seen as bigotry and racism. I agree that it would be but it's no different that somebody shouting, "Black Power" and kill all whites. Use the opposite races in those same phrases and it suddenly becomes racist.

Black Power, oh that's just a show of unity for the black community. White Power, why that's racism. Kill all whites, oh that's okay, they don't really mean it. Kill all blacks, racist, lock him up.

Response to: White History Month Posted March 11th, 2002 in Politics

And what about all the politically correct names of racial groups? I don't want to be called "white" or "caucasian". How about, European-American.

Also, if you think that whites aren't the majority in this country, then you need to get out more often.

Response to: Rush's Undeniable Truths Posted March 11th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/11/02 03:24 PM, Slizor wrote:
Old growth forests, like the rainforest actually use up oxygen, they use more in their respiration than they produce. Where does it come from? The sea. The earth's surface alone is 72% water, and packed with photoplankton. They have actually run tests on this. That's where it mostly comes from, tons and tons of this stuff, making massive quantities.
They don't use oxygen for respiration, they use carbon dioxide and produce oxygen.

Did you ever take a biology course? Plants go through photosynthesis and take in carbon dioxide and give off oxygen. Photosynthesis allows them to store glucose (sugar) that they need for food. Just like animals, they consume that glucose in cellular respiration that gives off carbon dioxide. Usually, plants produce more oxygen than they give off CO2 (that means carbon dioxide if you didn't know). Some forests though, i.e. old-growth forests have inefficient repiration and they give off more CO2 in their respiration than they take in. They don't produce, they consume.


The way to worsen it is for liberal judges to accept the "I'm a victim of society" argument. If you put people that commit crimes in jail, no more, no less, there won't be a problem.
How do you know if someone has commited a crime?

It's known as a trial.

There is a God.
prove it!
Disprove it!
Prove it!

Read "The Physics of Immortality" by Frank Tipler. Scientific proof of god, heaven and resurrection.


The welfare money sure isn't helping them get it together. They shouldn't be left to starve, but a handout is only a crutch. They need job training and trade skills.
They need a post to fill. Surely you don't believe that America is a land of endless jobs..do you?

They can't get any decent job without trade skills and education.

Peace does not mean the elimination of nuclear weapons.
it means elimination of ALL weapons
Peace is the applied use of force as a deterrent.
No peace is a lack of force. As is stated "peace is when there are no threats(something like that)" "the applied use of force" is a threat.
So what do we do? Tell em to kill more Americans because we won't shoot back?
How about you stop pissing them off?

How we "piss them off" is by helping our allies. You know why bin Laden's so mad at us? We have troops in Saudi Arabia, the holy land, at the government's request. If anything, he should be bombing the Saudis for letting us in the country if he's so mad about it.

you have to define victorious...do you mean the US that is dropping bombs on villages? wow, how heroic
You seem to think that the past is today. Maybe in Vietnam we killed some villagers, fair enough. In the recent war, their have been no intentional civilian casualties, only about 100 or so from misguided bombs.
3'608 (Guardian figure) people.

I wouldn't be sure about some of these figures. After 9/11, they estimated that 5,000-6,000 people died in the WTC,but now the figure is about 2,800.

Response to: Organized Religion Posted March 11th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/8/02 05:51 PM, dagger_happy wrote:
You've been brought up with atheism or merely lack of belief (most likely), and therefore you automatically believe that religion is false. Atheism is as much of a faith as Christianity. Your gospel is only what you can see and prove and what can be firmly established.
No, my parents were Christians (albeit lapsed ones), And I did attend church as a young child. My rejection of Christinaity was a personal one, as I found religion not only totally without foundation, but also repulsive.

My "Gospel" is the logic that everyone (hopefully) applies to every day life. I refuse to belive in something that has not been proven, which is perfectly rational. Some seemingly rational people, however, enter into a swamp of blind faith forged by emotion rather than sense.

My proposal is that you cannot disprove him. Give me a solid piece of evidence that he doesn't exist. The bible is the best response because most of these questions you ask have been answered in it. It is a book of history, law and God's word. You say it is contradictory but you must remember that it spans many years of history. The Old Testament law of "an eye for an eye" is not valid anymore. The new covenant and law was made with the teachings of Christ.

"You have heard bla bla bla..."
Matthew 5:38-47

I asked you to provide a defense without falling back on your Bible. The Bible sets out Christian beliefs - it has NO authority! The Communist manifesto and Mein Kampf are both books, but that does not make them correct or even accurate in their interpretation of events. Why can't you see how ludicrous it is to base your life around a belief that you follow because no one has "disproved it"??? You would ridicule me if I believed in the tooth fairy, yet you cannot disprove such a thing, can you? Searching for evidence to counter Christianity is a bizarre request since there is no supporting evidence to scrutinise the religion.

Actually god even makes scientific sense. I would urge you all to read "The Physics of Immortality" by Frank J. Tipler. God can be proven by science and he does it. In fact, when Tipler, who is a very well respected physicist, set out researching this he was atheist too. He has since changed his mind, not from indoctrination but from fact and study. When you say Christianity, or any religion, has no proof, you're speaking from an incomplete viewpoint. There is mathematical and scientific proof. Religion and science are hardly mutually exclusive beliefs.

As for all the other religions, some say they're just different paths to the same goal. I really have no opinion about that right now.

Read that book, and then argue this.

Response to: Organized Religion Posted March 8th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/7/02 04:48 PM, dagger_happy wrote:

Whoops, correction. They say prove that He exists. I say prove that he doesn't.

This an absurd argument. As an atheist, I belive in nothing to begin with. Prove to me that God/Jesus etc are real and I will believe. I do not need to argue a case for not believing - if you want me to believe, you will have to prove it. You have been brought up with religion and thus you automatically believe in it. Had you been brought up in a Hindu background, you would believe that instead.

You've been brought up with atheism or merely lack of belief (most likely), and therefore you automatically believe that religion is false. Atheism is as much of a faith as Christianity. Your gospel is only what you can see and prove and what can be firmly established.

You cannot stand up in a court of law and say: "Well, you can't prove that this man is guilty, but you can't disprove it either, so I guess he's guilty!" Your proposal amounts to the same. Please try to respond without the Bible, which is contradictory at the best of times.

My proposal is that you cannot disprove him. Give me a solid piece of evidence that he doesn't exist. The bible is the best response because most of these questions you ask have been answered in it. It is a book of history, law and God's word. You say it is contradictory but you must remember that it spans many years of history. The Old Testament law of "an eye for an eye" is not valid anymore. The new covenant and law was made with the teachings of Christ.

"You have heard that it was said, `An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also; and if any one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your cloak as well; and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him who would borrow from you. "You have heard that it was said, `You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love [only] those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you salute only your brethren, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?

Matthew 5:38-47

Response to: Organized Religion Posted March 7th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/6/02 10:25 PM, VA7DAS wrote:
At 3/6/02 05:16 PM, Commander-K25 wrote:
I say prove that he doesn't.

Well no matter what I say I will not convice you. You have your opinions and I have mine. However, if you would indulge me in one aspect? How are you sure your "god" is the "right" god. How can you be sure when there have been so many religions before? We "mock" the ancient greeks and there beliefs, but who, and when, will laugh at us? The Celtics, greeks, romans, Budists, musslims, pegons, and religions of indigones peoples (The americas & Afirca) all believed/believe there relegion was correct. Look at how easily Christians will dismiss these religions, and you will understand why I dismiss christianity.

Romans 10

Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but it is not enlightened. For, being ignorant of the righteousness that comes from God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. For Christ is the end of the law, that every one who has faith may be justified. 5. Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on the law shall live by it. But the righteousness based on faith says, Do not say in your heart, "Who will ascend into heaven?" (that is, to bring Christ down) or "Who will descend into the abyss?" (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). But what does it say? The word is near you, on your lips and in your heart (that is, the word of faith which we preach); because, if you confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For man believes with his heart and so is justified, and he confesses with his lips and so is saved. The scripture says, "No one who believes in him will be put to shame." For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all and bestows his riches upon all who call upon him. For, "every one who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved." But how are men to call upon him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without a preacher? And how can men preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who preach good news!" But they have not all obeyed the gospel; for Isaiah says, "Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us?" So faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes by the preaching of Christ. But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have; for "Their voice has gone out to all the earth, and their words to the ends of the world." Again I ask, did Israel not understand? First Moses says, "I will make you jealous of those who are not a nation; with a foolish nation I will make you angry." Then Isaiah is so bold as to say, "I have been found by those who did not seek me; I have shown myself to those who did not ask for me." But of Israel he says, "All day long I have held out my hands to a disobedient and contrary people."

Response to: The BLAMming Club:Enemies of CRAP Posted March 6th, 2002 in Clubs & Crews

Hmmmm, here's a thought, a cheap cliche, but a thought.

"I think, therefore I BLAM."

Response to: File Sharing Programs... Posted March 6th, 2002 in General

At 3/6/02 08:37 PM, Icarus32 wrote: These are great suggestions. Could everyone leave links so I can get the programs too?

http://www.gnucleus.com/

Response to: Legalise it! Posted March 6th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/6/02 06:40 PM, dagger_happy wrote:
This is idiotic! Whether or not Cannabis is addictive is contentious, but it is certainly no more worse than alcohol or a myriad of other mind-altering substances that are inexplicably illegal. It IS safe, considering the fact that no one has ever died from it - and you can't say that about alcohol, can you? Also, alcohol can make people violent, while cannabis just makes you a bit dopey (no pun intended, I swear!). All due respect, Commander, I know some people who don't smoke weed and they are some of the stupidest, lazy bastards ever. The effects of cannabis on the brain are temporary, while prolonged use does possibly lead to brain degredation, but SO DOES ALCOHOL! You cannot have alcohol legal and cannabis illegal because these laws contradict each other. Why can't any of you see that? It is true that most of the users who move on to heroin etc have smoked cannabis, but heroine users are a minority of the population, while cannabis smokers are millions and millions. Regular smokers of tobacco are more likely to go on to harder drugs than non-smokers who occasionally try weed. People keep talking about it being a gateway to harder drugs, but, as I said before, this is BECAUSE its illegal. If it was sold legally then it would not be from the same man who has more exotic treats in his pocket.

As I keep saying also, it is a question of personal freedom. Cannabis is no worse than alcohol in terms of addiction or effects (in my opinion it is less harmful) so what business is it of yours or the government to denounce casual tokers as "criminals"? What right does the government have to take away our rights and lock us up for what we do that affects only ourselves, particularly something as harmless as weed.

As for nocoins' rejection of my argument that the laws against cannabis are impossible to enforce, doesn't it ever occur to you that the law may need to be reformed? You talk like admitting "defeat" on the war against cannabis would be a great blow to national morality - two wrongs don't make a right or some shit like that. It would make the law slightly more representative of public opinion; it would free up police resources and men to tackle REAL crime; it would take the profits away from the dealers who are the real winners from current drug policy; and it would make the Western world a bit fairer. I thought republicans were all for minimising government interference in our lives? Only when it suits them, apparently.

No, only when it is not for the protection of society. Laws are made to protect. I agree that the current laws are a bit too strict, but the rationale behind them is the protection of society. You could claim laws against murder are an infringement on your personal freedom but that wouldn't make the law wrong. I'm not saying that marijuana use is as bad as murder or harder drugs but I'm simply explaining the reasoning behind current policies.

I wouldn't really have a problem with it as long as users smoke only in the same areas as tobacco users. They want to smoke it, fine, but as long as I don't have to breathe it.

Response to: File Sharing Programs... Posted March 6th, 2002 in General

At 3/6/02 09:34 AM, Icarus32 wrote: Which do you use now?

Napster and Kazaa/Morpheus have gone to shit. I need something to replace it.

I'm hearing Limewire, and WinMX, and other ones. Which one do you suggest?

Gnucleus is pretty good. It's an open source client for the Gnutella network, sorta like Limewire (another client), but better. Sometimes Gnutella takes a little bit of patience, though. Personally, I like it because it is decentralized, has many different file types and good search capabilities.

Response to: Pear is dead! Posted March 6th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/4/02 02:19 PM, MuDaFuKeN_clock wrote: And that's really fucking sad. He was married! His wife is pregnant! And that's why the fucking world sucks...that's really fucking sad. Really fucking sad. And i'm damn angry! Because what the fuck is bush doing?!?!'!?! I'd kill 'em all...throw a fucking bomb and that's it...et voilà.
My condolences to Pearl family. :(

Why should Bush do anyhting? This crime happened in Pakistan and the Pakistani authorities are already taking care of it. They have suspects in custody, awaiting trial.

Response to: Survey Posted March 6th, 2002 in General

1) 7-9
2) T-M
3) A's & B's
4) 11% bastard
6% of which is tard
0% the same as you
2% less bastard than you
98% more bastard than you

Worldwide average: 44%

56K woes Posted March 6th, 2002 in General

Voting on movies in the portal is a problem for NG users like me that only have 56K. I'd like DSL but it is expensive so for the present I'm stuck with this. Something about NG, I'm not sure what but no other sites do this to me, makes my modem freeze any dort of data transfer when I try to load something. It doesn't always happen but the hit and miss reliability of my modem is a problem when I'm trying to review things.

Here's how it usually goes. I click on a move link, the page opens and the movie loads. I watch it, close the movie pop-up and go to vote. I click a rating and nothing happens. My Dial-Up Networking box says no data is being transferred.

I can sometimes fix it by disconnecting and reconnecting again without closing the window. This only works occasionally, though. Many times I can just hit stop and click the link or button again. This works about 70% of the time. What I hate is having to completely close out and reconnect because then my log-in is lost and I have to start all over again, aaaggh!

It usually seems to go good until I hit that fith movie and then it completely locks up and I have to redo it all in the hope that it will work for a second try.

I realize that this is probably just because of the high volume of traffic on NG but I have a suggestion. When you vote on a movie, a record of you having voted on it should be saved to the server. At the end of the day, undeposited points can be discarded at the end of the day but if I get kicked off the site, I want to be able to log back in that day and start where I left off, not all over again. I would probably be at a much higher level than I am now. Or I could just mooch off my friends' DSL but that is not a very feasible solution.

Response to: Organized Religion Posted March 6th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/6/02 05:15 PM, Commander-K25 wrote:
At 3/6/02 05:01 PM, Slizor wrote:
If you think that way, then that is perhaps the greater tragedy, for there isn't much the church can do for you with that type of closedness. Why do you believe there is no God? You say prove it but I say disprove it.
Stating that there is no god is not an argument. It is a statement and as such has no premises, which makes it impossible to disprove, but also makes it unsubstanciated. If of course you provided an argument...
I agree, the statement that there is no god is not an argument. They say, prove that He exists. I say, that he doesn't.

Whoops, correction. They say prove that He exists. I say prove that he doesn't.

Response to: Organized Religion Posted March 6th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/6/02 05:01 PM, Slizor wrote:
If you think that way, then that is perhaps the greater tragedy, for there isn't much the church can do for you with that type of closedness. Why do you believe there is no God? You say prove it but I say disprove it.
Stating that there is no god is not an argument. It is a statement and as such has no premises, which makes it impossible to disprove, but also makes it unsubstanciated. If of course you provided an argument...

I agree, the statement that there is no god is not an argument. They say, prove that He exists. I say, that he doesn't.

Response to: Legalise it! Posted March 6th, 2002 in Politics

You shouldn't combat the crime problem by making it legal. Marijuana is NOT safe and certainly addictive. A chemical addiction is different than a habit or video game. It is something that makes physical changes in your brain that makes it hard to give up. Plus the harmful effects. Bad memory, poor judgement, etc. I know people who smoke it and they're not the best and brightest. I don't know whether they started because of that or they're that way because of it but it's certainly not doing them any good.

Here's an idea: Make something of your life without chemical stimulants.

Response to: Organized Religion Posted March 6th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/6/02 02:31 AM, VA7DAS wrote:

Salvation ? What do I need to be saved from?

Yourself, unfortunantly.

please do not quote that book of lies anymore. What a bunch of crap the above quote is. Let me sum it up for you: Praise Jesus, he is a kind and nice God, but if you don't believe in him he'll be a vengfull killer, bringing death and pestulance to all athiests.

No, not necessarily death and pestilence, but merely that what you do will be judged.

If you think that way, then that is perhaps the greater tragedy, for there isn't much the church can do for you with that type of closedness. Why do you believe there is no God? You say prove it but I say disprove it.

Response to: The next Great Depression Posted March 5th, 2002 in Politics

At 2/22/02 12:43 AM, Evil_Clock wrote: Well, I can see it unfolding right now. We strive on an economy that relys on stocks, that can crash down to $10 in a minute, and then we're spending MILLIONS on these 'wars' against drugs, terrorism, and hunger. Mostly, I see the money being put down for the War On Terrorism, but none of it towards homeless people, which it should benefit. And the US Government has spent over $40,000 in helicopters for Columbia for searching out large drug fields. You know what they did with the helicopters? Nobody does, not even our government, who says they are used to search out coke fields and bust them. But, dont the drug lords own the Columbian gvernment? Anyways, we spend $30M a month on the terrorism war, which is too much, $1B a year on it. We should put that money towards scholarships, the poor, and other things. As for the terrorism war, not that much cash should be used for it, and the government doesnt seem to care too much.

First, the drug lords don't own the Colombian government. In fact, Colombia's military has turned strongly anti-drug with ultra right-wing para-military groups that are doing as much harm as good. They're supported by the Colombian Army and they essentially go out and burn drug fields and fight leftist guerillas. They have a nasty habit of torching corn as well as crack though which is why they're not a good idea, but they're certainly not pro-drug trade.

The war on terrorism is one for this country's own safety and security. Housing the homeless sounds like a noble aspiration but it's been tried and it failed. Anybody remember Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" program? It built tons and tons of housing for the poor. The problem is that these inner-city housing developments and apartments quickly turned into vertical ghettos and crack houses. Most are either abandoned or slated for demolition. Free stuff just invites the worst elements of society in.

Response to: The BLAMming Club:Enemies of CRAP Posted March 5th, 2002 in Clubs & Crews

I can't believe some reviewers:

Movie: The Daily Grind
Rating: 0.00
Votes: 7

Hmm... March 5, 2002
Reviewed by: Circa5050 Overall rating: 4
I gave you a 4 because your first review just cant be a 0! Obviously this is your first flash movie, and i hated it when i got my first flash on here and everybody reviewd it all bad and stuff! Maybe if you added sound, and something that actually happenes, you could do way better! nice try tho! =)
Graphics: 1 Sound: 0 Interactivity: 0 Style: 1 Violence: 0 Humor: 0

The author even wants it Blammed!

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Also, how many votes and/or voting power does it take to Blam something?

Response to: Rush's Undeniable Truths Posted March 5th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/5/02 04:04 AM, nocoins3 wrote:
At 2/25/02 09:03 PM, Commander-K25 wrote: They're true!

Rush Limbaugh's Undeniable Truths

The Earth's eco-system is not fragile.
I would love to see his evidence backing this one up, I didnt know rush was suddenly an ecologist. I didnt think his lazy ass could even hike TO a forest let alone do any research.

In fact, if you actually listened to him you would see that he is supported by former members of Greenpeace that saw the error of their ways. One was actually a high level leader in the organization that started actually looking and thinking about some of the things that his organization was asying and he realised how wrong they were. Those statistics they give on the disappearance of the rainforest, if you do the math on those the all rainforests would already be gone years ago.


The most beautiful thing about a tree is what you do with it after you cut it down.
this is just a sad statement overall. someone put a bag over rush's head and see how he can survive without oxygen, because that is what trees give us.

Old growth forests, like the rainforest actually use up oxygen, they use more in their respiration than they produce. Where does it come from? The sea. The earth's surface alone is 72% water, and packed with photoplankton. They have actually run tests on this. That's where it mostly comes from, tons and tons of this stuff, making massive quantities.


Poverty is not the root ("rut") cause of crime.
poverty is not the ONLY "root" cause, but poverty is one of the symptoms of a group that has been cut out of the power system of this country.

coming soon to a neighborhood near you, a jail on every corner...welcome your new neighbors Rush.

The way to worsen it is for liberal judges to accept the "I'm a victim of society" argument. If you put people that commit crimes in jail, no more, no less, there won't be a problem.


If you commit a crime, you are guilty.
once again, bravo!

So many fail to recognize this, though. Once again, liberal judges.


Women should not be allowed on juries where the accused is a stud.
what an asshole statement.

He is satiring the feminist arguments that women defendants must be tried by women since it is their "peers." He's exposing the hypocrisy of this by saying, what if women weren't allowed to judge men?


There is a God.
prove it!

Disprove it!


easy to say when you are making hundreds of thousands of dollars each year from just talking. Welfare IS needed in this country, try visiting a welfare dependant family that is trying to get themselves together. Its better than letting them starve in the street.

The welfare money sure isn't helping them get it together. They shouldn't be left to starve, but a handout is only a crutch. They need job training and trade skills.


what a cold world this would be run by Rush.

What a fair, saner, more balanced world.


rioters that felt cheated and helpless in a system that let them down. sometimes you do need a bloody brawl to change things. I dont agree with the riots but I dont think they should be downplayed. They show a more serious problem that is developing.

Hmmmm, some person that I don't even know but just happens to be the same race as me gets injustice, so I should go out and smash and loot MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD?


Peace does not mean the elimination of nuclear weapons.
it means elimination of ALL weapons

Peace is the applied use of force as a deterrent.


There is only one way to get rid of nuclear weapons - use them.
have fun living in your poisened radioactive world...asshole!

What he means is that nuclear weapons won't just "go away", or be gradually disarmed.


Peace cannot be achieved by developing an "understanding" with the terrorists.
it sure as hell cannot be achieved by killing them either, that only brings more bitterness against the US

So what do we do? Tell em to kill more Americans because we won't shoot back?


Freedom is God given.
who is this god person?

The collective knowledge and wisdom of seasoned citizens is the most valuable, yet untapped, resource our young-people have.
execept for the rascist close minded people of the past.

There is no such thing as war atrocities. War itself is an atrocity.
true

Abortion is wrong.
says you...then dont do it.

Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream of society.
damn, he makes himself sound dumb

The US will again go to war.
thank you madam cleo.

He actually wrote that one back in the 80's, sorta prophetic.


To more and more people, a victorious US is a sinful US. This is frightening and ominous.
you have to define victorious...do you mean the US that is dropping bombs on villages? wow, how heroic

You seem to think that the past is today. Maybe in Vietnam we killed some villagers, fair enough. In the recent war, their have been no intentional civilian casualties, only about 100 or so from misguided bombs.

More liberal doublespeak, but I must applaud you on being the first to actually address the topic of this post and not get off in to tangents where they claim that all morality and anything of value and truth is false.

Response to: Time for Moral Reform in America Posted March 5th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/5/02 10:30 AM, BlueHairedPunk wrote:
At 3/5/02 12:11 AM, Commander-K25 wrote: Hmmm, you mean some famous Republicans like Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, Colin Powell, Dwight Eisenhower, etc.
So you're saying that GW Bush is a better man than Bill Clinton? Let's put this in perspective, shall we? Bill Clinton got a blowjob and lied about it. Dubya was basically BOUGHT OUT by Enron. Dubya allowed Enron officials to screen applicants for federal offices. And right now we're in the middle of this so-called "war." You think he's not lying through his teeth right now? Yeah, Clinton was a moron, but you really shouldn't defend Dubya simply because he's a Republican too. You've gone further than being an ideologue, Commander. Now, you're just dogmatic and stupid. But we all knew that already.

Yes, he took money from Enron but he didn't do any favors for them. People see money and they automatically start looking for evidence to fit the scandal template, but the evidene just isn't there. Democrats took as much as he did from them but does anybody see them being accused? No, because it's all media hype and the media is mainly composed of Democrats.

The so-called war is one fo self-defense. Unless you buy into the Arab propoganda of the Jews bringing down the WTC to frame Bin Laden. There wouldn't even have been a war if Clinton had done his job and fully followed up the numerous terrorist attacks during his term. He left the country vulnerable and we should be thankful that a strong leader like Bush was elected.

Response to: Facts vs. Opinions: A Primer Posted March 5th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/5/02 10:37 AM, BlueHairedPunk wrote: Since it seems that people one both sides of the spectrum have forgotten things that they should have learned in grammar school, let me remind everyone:

Examples of Facts:
Communism and Socialism are not "facist."
Republicans are not "facist," either.
Democrats and Republicans are both liberal parties.
Communists are not liberals.
There has never been a Communist country.
"Capitalism" and "democracy" are two different things.
America is not a democracy; rather, it is a republic.

Examples of Opinions:
"Gays are bad!"
"AIDS is good!"
"Communism is the singular reason that the world is going to shit."
"Republicans are the reason that the world is going to shit."
"Democrats are pussies."
"Abortion is murder."
"The Bible is right."
"There is a God."


Now, the reason I'm posting all this is that a lot of you seem to be posting opinions as if they were facts. You need EVIDENCE to back up your statements, if you're going to try and say that they are factual. It doesn't matter if you're Biseor or myself, you cannot say that what you believe is fact. God's existence is not a fact. I believe in god, very strongly, but I do not think it is a fact. Maybe everyone should proofread their posts and consider this one before they go and shoot their mouths off, yes?

I agree but a republic is a type of democracy, America is a republic though. Genus: Democracy, Species: Republic.