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Response to: Organized Religion Posted March 22nd, 2002 in Politics

At 3/22/02 01:47 PM, Randolph wrote: According to the law of entropy, the universe and everything in it has a tendency toward disorder. For example, if I am walking along the beach, and kick a sand castle, the sand that I have displaced will simply plop onto the ground in a disorganized fashion, rather than form a new sand castle.

The big bang - every bit of matter and energy (or simply one or the other, considering that matter is energy and vice versa) - exploding. There is probably not a more entropic event than that. Thus, it is nonsensical that something as complex as the human being could have resulted without the aide of a force which is not bound by physical laws, such as the law of entropy.

Organized religion. Why? It is probable that if everyone who could read was asked to interpret the Bible (or any book of scripture, for that matter), we would have as many different interpretations as the number of people who participated in the venture. If two people contradict on the same point, then we have a problem. x + y cannot equal 2 and 3 at the same time. It can only equal one value. Recognizing this, it only makes sense that people should rally around one truth and organize according to it. Of course, I do realize that there are many different religions. But organization is the only rational thing to do considering that there is only one truth.

Yes. Many people look at the bible only on the surface level and therefore dismiss it as false and useless.

For example, Genesis 2:7, Then the Lord God took dust from the ground and formed a man from it. He hreathed the breath of life into the man's nose, and the man became a living person.

Atheists would look at that and say, how stupid, man was magically formed from dust, you Christians really have some strange ideas. To me, it is clear that this is not literal, it is a metaphor for the creation. What did all life evolve from? Minerals and chemicals that formed the first ammino acids and proteins, the "dust."

Ancient peoples wouldn't have understood this so it could not be told simply to them, it was encoded in metaphor and analogy.

Response to: The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Posted March 22nd, 2002 in Politics

At 3/22/02 05:49 AM, NightHawk092401 wrote: Leave it to someone fundamentalist christian enough to quote scripture on a new grounds forum to believe that they hold the one and only truth (notice i did not say that beliefs of others were irrational in the other board, only yours).

Fundamentalist? If quoting scripture is fundamentalist then I guess all Christians are.

1st Peter 1:3-9

All honor to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for it is by his boundless mercy that God has given us the privilege of being born again. Now we live with a wonderful expectation because Jesus Christ rose again from the dead. For God has reserved a priceless inheritance for his children. It is kept in heaven for you, pure and undefiled, beyond the reach of change and decay. And God, in his mighty power, will protect you until you receive this salvation, because you are trusting him. It will be revealed on the last day for all to see.

So be truly glad! There is wonderful joy ahead, even though it is necessary for you to endure many trials for a while. These trials are only to test your faith, to show that it is strong and pure. It is being tested as fire tests and purifies gold – and your faith is far more precious to God than mere gold. So if your faith remains strong after being tried by fiery trials, it will bring you much praise and glory and honor on the day when Jesus Christ is revealed to the whole world. You love him even though you have never seen him. Though you do not see him, you trust him; and even now you are happy with a glorious, inexpressible joy. Your reward for trusting him will be the salvation of your souls.

Response to: The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Posted March 22nd, 2002 in Politics

At 3/22/02 02:36 AM, SquidOmelet wrote:
At 3/21/02 08:09 PM, Commander-K25 wrote:
At 3/21/02 08:28 AM, pyroarchy wrote: YES! and here is our proposed daily agenda!!
You're confusing us with ultra-right wingers. I'm not living on a compound in the woods somewhere stockpiling weapons and plotting against the government. I do believe in the second amendment, but that does not make me some extremist or wacko.
ok, so you believe in senseless murder... congratulations. do you need to pollute the forum with your little "i have a small penis, and i hate poeple with open minds" club. you're retarded.

Sensleless murder? Where did you get that from?

Response to: The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Posted March 22nd, 2002 in Politics

At 3/21/02 10:57 PM, GameboyCC wrote:
At 3/17/02 02:09 AM, Commander-K25 wrote: -We believe in personal responsibility, moral and ethical conduct (especially by our leaders).
With the exception of those leaders who are in our party, then we just blame the democrates...

Un-ethical? Maybe you mean Nixon. Yeah, he wasn't too good, but at least he quickly resigned. Clinton hung on to lower himself to new levels of infamy. Republicans are not all good and completely upstanding but when they aren't, they have the dignity to resign instead of clinging to power. (See Nixon, Gingrich, etc.)


-We believe in a government that remains within the constraints placed upon it by the Constitution.
Except when it comes to dealing with the Taliban.

What constitutional violations? The government shall provide for the nation's defense, it's highest and most important duty. Unless the nation is defended, the rest is all a moot point.


-We believe the best way for government to give opportunity to the people is to get out of their way and let people take care of themselves.
Except when it comes to sex and violence on TV, then they have to be told what's right and what's wrong.

We're talking about economics here.


-We believe raising taxes only serves to punish those who achieve and decreases the amount of money one can spend on their family the best way they see fit.
That's why Bush Sr. did it... read my lips my ASS!!!

The mistake was in making the comment. Unfortunantly, he later had to retract it when the economic situation forced him to raise taxes. Remember the deficits of the early 90's? That was one of the causes.


-We don't like liberal policies.
Unless a conservative uses them.

We don't like em even then. I hate it that Bush is compromising so much and adopting so many Democrat policies to appease them. Otherwise they attack him for not being "bi-partisan." Their logic: Democrat policies = bipartisan cooperation ; Republican ideas = bad, nasty unilateralism


-We believe Ronald Reagan was one of the greatest presidents in this century.
Translation: We're not all that bright...

He sowed the seeds of the 1990's economic boom and stood up to communism.

"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall."


-We believe the economy is doing well not because of clinton's policies, but despite them.
Translation: We're in denial...

Asked to asess Pres. Clinton's role in the sustained growth of the U.S. economy in the 1990s Milton Fiedman, winner of a Nobel Prize for Economic Science, gave the economy an A, but he gave credit to the fact that with a Democrat in the White House and a Republican controlled Congress, no laws were passed that got in the way of growth. Moreovere, Friedman traced the current boom back to the Reagan administration's efforts to deregulate. He also gave credit to the Federal Reserve Chariman Alan Greenspan for his judicious use of monetary policy to facilitate growth without inflation.


-We believe in charity through the institution of church organizations and or individual contribution as the source of healing for social maladies.
And getting rid of that "Seperation of Church and State" thing...

It has nothing to do with Church and State. It is about supporting good, renowned charitable organizations of any faith. The fact that many happen to be Christian should tell you something about Christianity.

To sum it up:
Yes kids, it is a conspiracy.

Yes, a conspiracy of truth, logic and common sense. Some level-headed thinking is what people need to embrace, not this culture of leftist spin, hype and crowd pandering.

Response to: Blam the Blam Club!! Posted March 21st, 2002 in General

At 3/21/02 09:20 PM, MovieCritic wrote: I never meant that the Blam Club votes 0 on EVERY MOVIE.I'm just saying that everyone has their own opinion on what they think is crap.Maybe some people think ordinary sticks is boring and crappy.Some people might like it.People should decide for themselves what they think is crappy.Who knows.We probably don't need a "blam club" to determine what movies get deleted.People should have the freedom to vote as they please. Taking that freedom away is online communism like someone else mentioned earlier in a different topic post.

Having your movie on newgrounds is not a right, it is a privelage of making something worth seeing, something that people enjoy. If people hate your movie, it has no right to be here and the Blam Club will attend to it's removal. If your movie gets deleted, too bad. Make something that people like and it will stay. Newgrounds is a democracy, not a commune.

Response to: The BLAMming Club:Enemies of CRAP Posted March 21st, 2002 in Clubs & Crews

K25 Clan, allies of the Blam Club!

The BLAMming Club:Enemies of CRAP

Response to: The BLAMming Club:Enemies of CRAP Posted March 21st, 2002 in Clubs & Crews

Voted on several from pg. 185. Just posting to say I am active and voting regularly, but I'm not posting here much. Hopefully I'll get around to it more in the future.

Response to: The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Posted March 21st, 2002 in Politics

At 3/21/02 08:23 PM, implodinggoat wrote: What must I do to join The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

I don't have to kill anyone or amputate any of my body parts do I?

No bizarre rituals required. Simply recognize what is truth, and what is fictionalized demogoguery.

The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy

Response to: The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Posted March 21st, 2002 in Politics

At 3/21/02 07:43 PM, implodinggoat wrote: I want to be part of The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

Sure.

George W. Bush: Honorary Club President
Commander-K25: Club President
implodinggoat: Vice President

Response to: The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Posted March 21st, 2002 in Politics

At 3/21/02 08:28 AM, pyroarchy wrote: YES! and here is our proposed daily agenda!!

You're confusing us with ultra-right wingers. I'm not living on a compound in the woods somewhere stockpiling weapons and plotting against the government. I do believe in the second amendment, but that does not make me some extremist or wacko.

The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy

Response to: God - Part 2 Posted March 21st, 2002 in Politics

At 3/21/02 11:34 AM, Slizor wrote:
Me, because he exists. The existence God is the only logical possibility.
How so?

FAT: Why does someone have had to create us?

We didn't just appear one day, we evolved. This may seem contrary to religion but I believe in both God and science, and believe that that they are not mutually exclusive. We evolved, ultimately from the first ammino acids and proteins that formed in the primordial seas of Earth billions of years ago. These seas were formed by water vapor that was spewed gradually out of even more ancient volcanos. The Earth itself was formed from asteroids, rocks, dust and general space debris that lumped together over very long periods of time, flying about the sun. It all traces back to the Big Bang, that first super-particle that exploded into everything that makes up the universe today. The question is, where did that first particle come from. A lot of evidence today points toward it being a random vacuum fluctuation in the surface of space-time. These fluctuations happen all the time around us, empty space is not so empty as it may seem.

This elementary particle popped into existence but it's symmetry broke and it rapidly expanded. The predictions made by this model are consistent with current astronomical and particle physics evidence. Now, according to quantum theory, which has been proven many times by experimental evidence, there is a higher plane of super-spacetime, where the quantum decisions take place. No matter what interpretation you favor or believe in, Copenhagen, MWI or TI, they all must take place on this higher plane of reality. In MWI, my preference, this is where the universes split into parallel realities representing every possible quantum possibility, uncountable numbers of unverses growing exponentially every infinite fraction if the most infinitessimally small fractions of seconds. The extra realities split of at right angles in different dimensions. Just like length is at a right angle to width and depth at a right angle to them and then time at another right angle to those three, the fifth, sixth, seventh, etc. dimensions branch at right angles that can only be properly represented mathematically, you could never in your wildest dreams draw this sort of thing on paper correctly.

Anyway, this upper plane is the obvious place for a God, a "supreme consciousness" a sort of "divine scientist" that is omnipotent because he is working on the next level, above our limited "reality." Such a place exists, I've just described it and it is proven by mathematics, experimental evidence and the greatest intellectual minds ever, Stephen Hawking, Frank Tipler, Roger Penrose, Paul Dirac, etc.

You may ask, why should there be any reason for such a God to exist but the answer is, Why not? The laws of physics break down at places like singularities where space-time is essentially punctured. In these regions no physical laws apply. In the super-spacetime plane, one of those such zones, anything and everything is possible. Reality, as we know it doesn't exist. Anything can exist and does, and God is all the overlaying possibilities.

Response to: Who Owns Israel\Palestine? Posted March 21st, 2002 in Politics

At 3/21/02 12:02 PM, Slizor wrote:
Our Enemy Is One
by Terry Hathaway
Newgrounds.com | March 21, 2002

Hmmmm, I do get the feeling that this is simply a parody, a mindless refutation and contradiction of all that I post or say. Considering it is backed up by absolutely no evidence or fact at all, that is probably the the case.

Could Slizor be channeling Noam Chomsky?

BTW, we all know how wonderful those Eastern European, USSR controlled puppet states were. The wonderful repression of free thought and ideas, the brutal police states. Don't we all wish that communism had won so we all could enjoy these wonderful benefits?

Considering that all the places where the communists won in the Cold War are all basket-case countries run by homocidal dictators and the people are dirt poor and starving by the millions while the places that the US defended (i.e. South Korea, West Germany, etc.) are all free, independent and thriving with good economies and high standards of living, I think that the US way is better. If the US is evil then where is all this US oppression and terror that you like to tout and harp upon?

Response to: Should the U.S. conquer Canada? Posted March 21st, 2002 in Politics

At 3/21/02 05:13 PM, Slizor wrote: I'm quite tired at the moment so I'll just add some information. The British soldiers sent to America were second-rate, the majority Irish, and poorly trained. They didn't view America as particually rebellous and had many other areas to worry about. Also, I know it maybe hard for some of you guys to swallow, but America didn't become a superpower until it decided to tell everyone in Europe to go fuck themselves for three years.

You're talking about WWI and Wilson's policy of neutrality right? Well, it wasn't out war, not until The Zimmerman Telegram and the sinking of the Lusitania. We didn't completely ignore Europe, we tried to mediate but of course that didn't work, with all the hard-set nationalism of the European empires. Germany and Austria were gonna kill France and Serbia and France was gonna kill Germany and and the Russians and British were gona help. Wilson said, Hey, count us out. Then we were provoked by Germany with their plots to team up with Mexico and wage war on the US so we sent General Pershing (the highest ranking US general ever, besides Washington) and the AEF.

Response to: Noam Chompsky Posted March 21st, 2002 in Politics

At 3/21/02 12:16 PM, Slizor wrote:
He's a guy who got popular among leftists by bashing the US. According to him we're responsible for the sins of the rest of the world because we're a disgusting, immoral, dirty society that has corrupted and interfered with the rest of the world.
This is bullshit. I have read a lot of Chomsky. Never has he called America a disgusting, immoral, dirty society that has corrupted the rest of the world.

Read that second link I posted earlier. Read it all. And yes, it is properly sourced and quoted.

Response to: Organized Religion Posted March 20th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/20/02 08:24 PM, implodinggoat wrote: Alright first let me say that I am a Christian but I am not some sort of fucking fanatic. While I admit that Christianity has been used as a means to control people, I just don't see how the creation of the universe(even if you except the big bang theory) can be expalined without some higher power.

I believe in evolution, I go to church about once a year, and I respect other religions. But I don't respect aethists.

I get sick of aethists saying that anyone who practices a religion is weakminded an that their beliefs are the only logical ones.

So I ask you why do aethists feel that they must insult everyone who doesn't hold the same beliefs they do, while they criticize organized religion for ostracizing them?

P.S. VA7DAS I hate to tell you this but communism doesn't work.

Exactly. Religion and science are not mutually exclusive beliefs. I think god is more of a "divine scientist" that set things up in the initial conditions of the big bang.

Response to: Should the U.S. conquer Canada? Posted March 20th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/20/02 02:59 AM, VA7DAS wrote:
At 3/18/02 05:10 PM, FAT_MAN2k1 wrote:
At 3/17/02 09:29 PM, VA7DAS wrote:
America has tried to take over canada before. During the War Of 1812 you got wooped

im sorry to remind you, but america won the war of 1812

You fucking idiot:
Britian and american were at peace at the time. You entered in a war and failed to obtain the objective of the campaign(take over canada). Not only did you fail to obtain your objective your unorganized militia was sluagtered by profesional british and canadian soldiers.

Slaughtered? I laugh. Read some history. Yes, the White House was burned and Washington briefly invaded but that was about it. Baltimore was defended from the British navy's bombardment and the US army not just some militia held their ground. Not to mention the Battle of New Orleans in which Andrew Jackson slaughtered the British troops. Rank after rank attempted to charge the barricades and lines but were cut down every time.

There were also he clashes between the much smaller American armies in th southeast against "superior" British forces who suffered heavy losses because they stood there in their firing ranks like typical European armies of the time while the Americans used tactics that the British looked upon as "deceitful" and not proper warfare. Hiding behind trees, sniping officers from the woods, wearing dull, brownish clothing that blended in rather than standing there with a big white X target on your chest.

Yes, the inavsion of Canada failed but the US held its ground and stood up to the British harassment of the merchant vessals that were being seized and stopped. Also, the incitement of the Indians in the west by the British. Those were what the war was really about.

Response to: Who Owns Israel\Palestine? Posted March 20th, 2002 in Politics

Our Enemy Is One
by David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 20, 2002

THESE ARE TROUBLING TIMES. Israel and America are in danger, greater than they have ever been. Israel is fighting for its survival against an enemy that has the tacit support of most of the world’s governments and is determined to destroy it. Every man woman and child in America has been targeted for death by religious fanatics armed with modern weapons, including weapons of mass destruction, yet is only reluctantly supported – if at all -- by the rest of the world in its efforts to eliminate the threat.

As they confront these dangers, Americans need to understand that in radical Islam America and Israel are facing the same enemy. Yasser Arafat and the PLO invented suicide bombing of innocent civilians, created the first terrorist training camps, and are hand-in-glove allies of al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein. Palestinian terrorists were part of the al-Qaeda team that blew up the World Trade Center in 1993 and the Khobar Towers, killing 19 American servicemen, in 1996...

Israel is a frontline nation in this battle, whose very survival is now at stake. Israel has been the target of a fifty-year holy war by the Arab states, which surround it and vastly outnumber it. The war against Israel is as much a prelude to the war against the West, as the Spanish Civil War was to World War II. The history of this fifty-year effort to expel the Jews from the Middle East has been all but forgotten.

The Western media reports the current battlefront as though it were an Israeli Goliath against a Palestinian David, or at best a moral equivalency between two irrational neighbors. But there is no moral equivalence here. The West Bank and Gaza were annexed by Jordan and Egypt fifty years ago with no Arab complaints.

(My commentary: Ah, so muslim states can conquer parts of "Palestine," but the moment the Jews conquer them, (and in a defensive war too!), it calls for a holy war.)

Israel has absorbed a million Jewish refugees from Arab lands and the Soviet Union with no complaints. The 3.7 million seething refugees who live abject poverty on the West Bank, and who have received more than a billion dollars in aid from Israel and the rest of the world are refugees only because the Arab states themselves have rejected them and kept them in poverty so they can be cannon fodder for the holy war to push the Jews into the sea. The "Palestinian problem," is entirely a creation of the Arabs themselves, a product of their refusal to live side by side with any infidels they think they can destroy.

September 11 signals the determination of radical Islam to extend a war it began in 1948 to the United States itself. In fact the war against America was begun with the attack on U.S. troops in Mogadishu in February 1993 and with the first attempt to blow up the World Trade Center in October of that year. Americans must arm themselves for the defense of their country. To be effective, this defense requires America and the democratic West to recognize that the defense of Israel is a defense of their own frontier.

Response to: God - Part 2 Posted March 20th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/20/02 02:12 PM, Slizor wrote: So, who believes in God? And, why do you believe in God?

Me, because he exists. The existence God is the only logical possibility.

Response to: Noam Chompsky Posted March 20th, 2002 in Politics

At 5/5/01 01:54 AM, shorbe wrote: I haven't read him, but I know who Noam Chomsky is, and roughly what he is on about. I would like to read him in the near fufure, as yes, his ideas are often very Libertarian and anarchistic.

From what I know, he's one of the great philosophers, political thinkers, and social commentators of our time.

I think he's also somehow involved in linguistics.

shorbe

He's a guy who got popular among leftists by bashing the US. According to him we're responsible for the sins of the rest of the world because we're a disgusting, immoral, dirty society that has corrupted and interfered with the rest of the world. He's part of the far left that likes to paint the US as the great "satan" in the world.

Read "The Sick Mind of Noam Chomsky" by David Horowitz for the other side of the picture.

The Sick Mind of Noam Chomsky (part 1)
The Sick Mind of Noam Chomsky: Part II Method and Madness

Response to: Metal Gear Solid 2 Posted March 19th, 2002 in General

At 3/18/02 09:02 AM, Losperman wrote: Yeah, it is a great game. But one thing I was wondering... Snake was always really cool and rational about things. He always kept his head in crazy situations. But why the fuck did he jump into the ocean to go after Ocelot at the end!?

Didn't you know, mullets can suspend the laws of physics for the bearer. The water resistance that would keep a normal swimmer from catching up with a massicve submarine vehicle don't apply to him.

:-P

Response to: AMD v.s P3/4 Posted March 19th, 2002 in General

At 3/19/02 09:12 PM, unrealrapist wrote: whoa!.. whos looking at these latest tests with the AMD processor and the Pentium 3/4?, AMD is kicking so much ass!, i want a damn AMD now.

p.s school is gay, not enough time to even flash anymore :(

Running an AMD right now :)

Response to: The BLAMming Club:Enemies of CRAP Posted March 19th, 2002 in Clubs & Crews

At 3/19/02 05:37 PM, ERies7 wrote: More targets!
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=47933
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=47954
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=47942
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=47946
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=47953

Voted.

Note: What's the technical definition of a blam? Is it only when you get it deleted or is it simply voting zero?

Response to: The BLAMming Club:Enemies of CRAP Posted March 19th, 2002 in Clubs & Crews

Hey! I've been listed as inactive, plus I've leveled up twice since I joined. I don't post here often but I vote on movies on the list constantly. Although I don't get BLAMs, I vote.

Response to: Get famous in the BBS quick! Posted March 19th, 2002 in General

At 3/19/02 03:58 PM, Neo-Falconrath wrote: There are several ways to get famous quick in the BBS.
Here are some:
The quickest way: Make a BBS topic that revolves around you saying the clock crew sucks. You'll sure to be popular, even if you're given the finger.
2. Submit pictures of Anime girls
3. Make a Big Topic of nothing
4. Form a BLAM Club
LOL

Or if you have real opinions, go to the lesser known Politics forum. Ahhh, the joys of the lack of spam.

Response to: Biseor.com Posted March 19th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/19/02 10:27 AM, Reaper-n wrote: (to the tune of the witch is dead)
Ding dong that site is dead, Which old site ?
the facist site.

Hmmmm, who's more fascist, the outspoken so-called "fascist" or the fascists that attempt silence him? I could understand if you don't like what he says but then they go shut him down. Who's the fascist now? The unpopular outspoken individual or the one's who squelch his free speech?

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to death your right to say it."
-Voltaire.

Response to: Organized Religion Posted March 19th, 2002 in Politics

If you'd like to read something interesting, I'd recommend The Case for Faith by Lee Strobel. He's a former atheist and a journalist who converted and now has written several books explaining some misconceptions about Christianity. In this book he answers eight commonly-asked questions that people use to try and discredit Christianity:

1) If there's a loving God, why does this pain-wracked world groan under so much suffering and evil?
2) If the miracles of God contradict science, then how can any rational person believe that they're true?
3) If God is morally pure, how can he sanction the slaughter of innocent children as the Old Testament says he did?
4) If God cares about the people he created, how could he consign so many of them to an eternity of torture in hell just because they didn't believe the right things about him?
5) If Jesus is the only way to heaven, then what about the millions of people who have never heard of him?
6) If God really created the universe, why does the evidence of science compel so many to conclude that the unguided process of evolution accounts for life?
7) If God is the ultimate overseer of the church, why has it been rife with hypocrisy and brutality throughout the ages?
8) If I'm still plagued by doubts, then is it still possible to be a Christian?

I've heard it's a good book and plan on reading it.

Response to: War on terror Posted March 18th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/18/02 08:07 PM, Piro-O-Nero wrote:
At 3/8/02 02:40 AM, Neotrance_Ice wrote:
At 3/7/02 04:54 PM, dagger_happy wrote: I'm undecided. Terrorism is definitely a tangible danger nowadays. Should we invade Iraq though? What do others think?
Absolutly not. Our military is spread way to far. Plus Iraq has the worlds third largest army. We would win, but it would leave us open to other aggresive countries like N. Korea or China
That's a stupid comment to make. Do you honestly think China or North Korea would dare attack us? And why would they want to in the first place? This isn't a fuckin video game.

And trust me, they are not the aggressive nations of this world. We are. And I think it's totally ok to admit that. It is because of that aggression that we are the mighty nation we are today.

We attack and they defend poorly.

Iraq has a large army but this same thing was discussed at the start of the Gulf War. Most of their army are conscript soldiers who were more than happy to surrender to us. They defected in massive number in the Gulf War. A group of soldiers even surrendered to Italian journalists just to get out of their bunker and get away. They don't want to fight, the government forces them. The loyal troops were the "Republican Guard" with a few tens of thousand of troops. They were loyal but their small arms fire and light tanks were no match for stealth bombers, cruise missles, nightvision, Abrams tanks and other such technology and methods.

As for North Korea and China, they'd love to but they wouldn't dare. They never have, even to invade Taiwan.

Response to: The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Posted March 18th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/18/02 07:25 AM, SquidOmelet wrote: you are a jack ass.

Thank you.

Response to: Biseor.com Posted March 18th, 2002 in Politics

At 3/18/02 02:59 PM, GameboyCC wrote:
At 3/17/02 11:24 PM, Piro-O-Nero wrote: To call the net sensors Nazis and Commies in the same thread is kinda dumb...
It is, but why am I not suprised. Especially when you consider that the webmaster of the mentioned website has called McCarthy an American hero. Not to mention when he made his claims about people with AIDS. And the time he called Koffi Annan a "monkey". And... he doesn't hesitate to use the "N" word on his website. To think he calls people net-nazis!
Then there's Commander, who begs the question "Who's the more foolish? The fool? Or the one who follows the fool?"

Hey! I don't agree with everything he says. I admit He's sometimes a little extreme or harsh but I think that many times he's right on target (no pun intended). Especially the Big Black Lies Feature, something that needs to be said.

Response to: Need More War Flash! Posted March 18th, 2002 in General

At 3/18/02 12:02 AM, TheAxe wrote: I know some of you dont like war....but some of you are interested in war...or just complete war hogs!In my opinion..there should be a little more flashes about war and stuff like that.

World War I flash, raise awareness that there was a first world war.

(WWI German calvary lancer w/ gas mask:)

Need More War Flash!