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At 7/15/14 03:32 PM, odditiesbyangela wrote: It's cool, but I think you would have to get the right exposure and come up with ways to make them more than just a rainbow ring. I personally wouldn't buy it because it's not what I want to see hanging in my house and I could probably just make one, but people have different tastes.

As I said, the ones I make aren't rainbow - that was just an example off the net - the ones I make are pure white and mount directly onto the wall.

and like all things we could pretty much make anything, but it's the fact we choose to not invest the countless hours doing it, while someone else did, that spurs us to buy it from someone else instead. I could make a dress - I could buy the fabric and stitch it - but frankly I have no interest to.

er somehow that info all got duplicated.. weird...

in any case my thinking was I could make a site that shows individual origami elements, and the type of rings I can make based on that element, or even have people recommend an origami element and I make a ring based on that. Some of my rings are quite big - the sunburst one above my bed in the picture is probably a meter wide and long - I hope to do more complex ones..

haven't really done any since I was a kid, as I said while seems to look best on a wall, but I can probably experiment with that - asked a girl how much she would pay for them, I really have no idea what to sell them for, all I know is they take a loong time to make some of them - she said 150.00 - what do you guys think?

so when I was a kid I used to make origami rings - I would basically make an origami element, and then replicate it - sometimes up to 60 times, radially arraying them in a ring formation and then either slotting them into each other or gluing them to each other. The results were quite striking and intricate - and to this date most of the things on my wall are actually simple origami rings - white paper on white walls is quite the striking look

you can't really see them that well but here are some examples of ones I did:

this one you can see from the side view - it is 2 rings - a smaller one inside a larger one - model used - hummingbird origami:

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs5/i/2004/296/9/6/room_part_5_by_Chronamut.jpg

these ones are hard to see due to the camera flash (back when you used an actual camera with film) but from left to right: hummingbird model (colour), seal model, triangle sunburst model

http://chronamut.deviantart.com/art/my-room-part-2-11637097

I was wondering if people would actually pay money for these, and how much. They are QUITE labour intensive, some taking weeks to do - as each has to be folded perfectly and placed perfectly.. to hang them I just put sticky tack on the back and slammed them onto the wall - although you could probably mount some kind of hanging device on the back too.. or laminate them and hang them that way..

so what do you guys think? Also here is a very simplistic example from the internet.. seems noone has ever really done "animal" ones in the way I have, mostly just geometric ones..
so when I was a kid I used to make origami rings - I would basically make an origami element, and then replicate it - sometimes up to 60 times, radially arraying them in a ring formation and then either slotting them into each other or gluing them to each other. The results were quite striking and intricate - and to this date most of the things on my wall are actually simple origami rings - white paper on white walls is quite the striking look

you can't really see them that well but here are some examples of ones I did:

this one you can see from the side view - it is 2 rings - a smaller one inside a larger one - model used - hummingbird origami:

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs5/i/2004/296/9/6/room_part_5_by_Chronamut.jpg

these ones are hard to see due to the camera flash (back when you used an actual camera with film) but from left to right: hummingbird model (colour), seal model, triangle sunburst model

http://chronamut.deviantart.com/art/my-room-part-2-11637097

I was wondering if people would actually pay money for these, and how much. They are QUITE labour intensive, some taking weeks to do - as each has to be folded perfectly and placed perfectly.. to hang them I just put sticky tack on the back and slammed them onto the wall - although you could probably mount some kind of hanging device on the back too.. or laminate them and hang them that way..

so what do you guys think? Also here is a very simplistic example from the internet.. seems noone has ever really done "animal" ones in the way I have, mostly just geometric ones..

At 7/14/14 09:53 PM, Daverom wrote:

At 7/14/14 09:41 AM, Chronamut wrote: If all my pledges exactly reflected the price I was raising I wouldn't raise any money dude.. so 300 for the lightbox, and 200 money RAISED..

Yet you keep saying you sell these out of studio for 150, where is the extra 150 coming from, let alone the extra 200 beyond that ON TOP of shipping? Not even touching on the fact that there is also a competitor who is beating your regular asking price hand over fist. More options, larger frames, and better prices with free shipping. Hell they're even frameless with custom artwork. I don't care about your studio price, that isn't what you're offering here. They sell what looks like a better product, cheaper, and hell they even go into detail about how they make it.

the other 150 goes towards being able to make another lightbox with that price - so 150 goes towards the cost and labour, and the other 150 to make another lightbox. At 150 I am not exactly profiting off of them. The remaining 200 will go towards my other goals - which is paying to modify them to have independently powered options, redoing the models to have different options - paying for an eventual studio, and all the tools I will need. I stated all the things the money is going towards - and no I didn't break it down step by step because frankly I don't KNOW how much it is all going to cost.

And they are not being my price hand over fist - if they are selling one for 180.00 for a 24 x 16, and I am selling them for 150 for a 20 x 16, that isn't much of a difference for almost the same size.

Transparency is incredibly important for a business, let alone a one person endeavor; and is more or less essential for a kickstarter (it's even in their TOS). If people don't know what you're doing with their money. If people can't trust you, they aren't going to give you their money.

I state where the money is going.

kickstarter isn't just about getting people swag, it's also about raising money for your own projects.

I think you forget that one has to actually PROFIT from the pledges, and not just give the pledge worth away - this is raising money after all.

I'm gonna level with you.
Your business model is awful. It reeks of consumer mistrust and outright contempt, even after backpedaling about the ridiculous copyright stuff, you still refuse to plainly state where the money is going. People aren't coming to you, clamoring to get their hands on your product. You are going to them with a fundraiser and begging for money, and you won't even going to give them basic information on what their money is going towards beyond 'the expenses of pioneering?'

um no it doesn't - nowhere am I "mistrusting" people in my campaign.. and like I said I have told them what it is going towards, gallery and venue expenses, tools, a studio of my own to work in, and the technology I will have to trial and error in order to find the proper balance of self-sufficiency coupled with optional additional powering.

I'm not even interested in the product and I'm asking some pretty basic questions on things that concern me. Do you really think people aren't gonna ask these kinds of questions with half a grand as a pricepoint? You're even outright stating that the lightboxes cost significantly less than the pledge price. Do you think they'll except these vague answers and straight-up admission of blatant extortion?

I expect people to ask these questions - which is why I made this thread. One doesn't make a thread with the expectation that everyone is going to blindly praise their idea, and neither did I. This isn't blatent extortion, and unlike you I haven't come in with an openly hostile view towards this.

At 7/14/14 06:31 PM, ornery wrote: Will they have a wall plug as well for the vast majority of people who dont have rooms/roofs/houses/wall space with enough light to power the solar cell?

yes.

made some more adjustments:

1) took out all mention of the word "lightbox" and replaced it with "illuminated works" or "independently powered illuminated works" - I want to made it clear that the main goal of this is to indeed make a self reliant system that relies very little if not on all on needing to be plugged in.

2) took out all personal benefiting of this project out of my story description - it is still mentioned in the video but I felt the description made it sound too "me" oriented, which ultimately it IS, but it might detract from a community feel to others.

another option I might look into are more or less "solar buds" - in which you power them and then "snap" them into the frame, providing you with a timeline of external power, much like a battery. The issue of powering them without plugging them in becomes an interesting issue, short of implementing some sort of perpetual motion system.

At 7/14/14 02:03 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: This is going to be my only post to this thread, but

At 7/14/14 01:19 PM, Chronamut wrote: those are a little different - for one they are more expensive

You're selling a 16x20 image for $300 in the Kickstarter project.
That website is selling a 16x24 image for $180.
It looks to me that your boxes are more expensive.

no I am selling them in a gallery for 300 - I am selling them to people directly for 150.00.

and for another the transformer they provide is hard wired directly into the wall or with a plug coming out the side. What makes my project different is the means to power it without it tapping into an existing electrical supply. Think of being able to walk around outside with a lightbox in your hands, and it is lit. That is the goal - to have that freedom to bring it and put it anywhere.

Firstly, I get the impression that your lightboxes aren't powered by solar panels at the moment, and that the steep goal you're asking for is to fund research into making the lightboxes solar powered and bigger.

you got it.

Secondly, I don't like putting paintings in places where they get a lot of sunlight, which will be where the lightboxes get their power. Sunlight makes the image fade over time.

there is technology to deal with that so that they don't fade - but yes that is an issue of providing enough solar power without detrimentally affecting the image.

At 7/14/14 10:00 AM, odditiesbyangela wrote: I am also doing a Kickstarter campaign. Good luck, you have a great idea!

thanks a lot - my kickstarter porject just became a kickstarter staff pic - so seems they think it is a great idea too! :)

https://www.kickstarter.com/discover/recommended?ref=email

At 7/14/14 12:43 PM, Luwano wrote: I think this could turn out to be a problem as well. (Unfortunate since you are facing a lot of scepticism already).

http://www.backlitbox.com

Or are these something different?

those are a little different - for one they are more expensive, and for another the transformer they provide is hard wired directly into the wall or with a plug coming out the side. What makes my project different is the means to power it without it tapping into an existing electrical supply. Think of being able to walk around outside with a lightbox in your hands, and it is lit. That is the goal - to have that freedom to bring it and put it anywhere.

At 7/14/14 03:38 AM, Daverom wrote: Jack more or less has covered pretty much anything there is to be skeptic about on this, and just looking around for parts of what I can only assume goes into one of these, 200 to 300 doesn't seem all that unreasonable if you're factoring in custom-making each one while also paying for the use of the tools; although 300 does seem a bit steep to me but it's your pricing and I don't know exact numbers.

Something super problematic jumps out at me with the pledge tiers though. You are weighing these tiers way down with loads of stuff people may not actually want. The first one to actually have a lightbox as part of the reward is a $500 pledge, a whopping 200 more than the asking price for one. I would really recommend an option in there for $300 that's just a lightbox, and or a cheaper option for a smaller one.

By all means, sell your art through this as well if you want, it's your kickstarter. But I think it'd really help if there was more focus on getting people the actual product you are trying to get funding for.

I think you forget that one has to actually PROFIT from the pledges, and not just give the pledge worth away - this is raising money after all.

If all my pledges exactly reflected the price I was raising I wouldn't raise any money dude.. so 300 for the lightbox, and 200 money RAISED..

kickstarter isn't just about getting people swag, it's also about raising money for your own projects.

all valid points man - after all I am learning... and in reality it can be applied to all people - commercial, artists, me, etc. But I appreciate your input nonetheless :)

also one of my goals is to be able to put them out on balconies and patios, without them being plugged in. I would prefer to not have a plug at all but I am not sure how that will go. Might be better for additional powering is all. Also with the depth of the lightbox they can also be put on shelves and tables, or even daisychain wired together to have a whole wall of the images. Someone suggested that in pm a couple of days ago.. thought it was a cool solution to not being able to get a big one into a room..

solar power will most likely make them more expensive though.. and while artists CAN improvise,.. sometimes they just don't have the resources in place to do it - after all that is why most of us buy stuff - we COULD do it - we just choose not to.

and yes I will buy all that equipment if all goes well. I can't use my gallery owner's studio forever so I would most likely also need to get my own studio, as well as a place to paint them that is ventilated, as the studio currently i not properly ventilated for such things, making things like painting time consuming.

it's an exciting project for sure - and even if it fails utterly I will have learned some valuable things from it - as sometimes the best way to learn is to fuck up enough times that you no know more through reaction than you ever would through research :)

even this thread has taught me a lot -so thanks guys :)

also one of my goals is to use photovoltaic paper, either as the lightbox paper the image is on, or to coat the actual lightbox.. this technology can power small electronic devices

At 7/13/14 11:42 PM, JackDCurleo wrote:

At 7/13/14 09:44 PM, Chronamut wrote: the video specifically:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nroS-uWFJI

You keep saying that you are pioneering this technology and that the funding will go to research into said technology in the video and I really cannot decipher what you are talking about when you say that.
There's nothing to pioneer. It's a light box with art instead of just the glass being there, my knowledge of electricianating is pretty rusty but as a semi competent technical dude I can say with a pretty good amount confidence that $10,000 is a ridiculous amount to ask for to back this project. Now if you need to buy all of the hardware necessary to custom make each box, like a table saw or an arc welder, soldering stuff(that one's cheap), a planer, saw blades etc. to cut the boxes to size and smooth them out as well as do the wiring yourself for the future it would make sense to ask for that amount (still very high actually). But I didn't get that from your videos so I don't know what your process is for making these, but since you've already made a couple I'm guessing you're not in need of all that wood/metalshop equipment.

I dunno about you but I don't think the average artist can afford a bigass sign.

I have to pay the person who I use to use his equipment, as well as buy and put together all the raw resources, so yes I have to pay for labour.

So let me ask, how much does it cost you to make these (you say they're valued at $300)?

sorry but as an artist I don't feel that you need to know that. Just know that people would most likely be able to bu them from me for 150 bucks.

Also just a little thing that bothered me in your video, you say something like "imagine walking down the street and you see a building, and there is a huge solar powered illuminated image on the side" disregarding the solar powered part, they already have those, they're called signs, a lot billboards where I live are starting to do that too (they're becoming digital).

"disregarding the solar powered part"? That is the entire point dude - the entire point is to make them cheap, with a persons art in them, entirely weatherproof, with lights that never need to be changed, that are completely self sustaining by being solar powered. To my knowledge nothing like that exists - at least not here.

I hate to poke holes in this but the more I think about the less sense it makes. You're marketing this in a way that is just absurd. You're talking about them like these lightboxes are some crazy new innovation and they just aren't. Maybe in the exact context that you're making them it's a new thing but in relation to novelty light up signs (a lot of bars have these, not talking the neon ones either) neither the technology nor the concept is particularly new and when you talk about them like they are it's... jarring.

Not really. In the exact context I am making them they ARE novel - because they will become entirely self-sufficient and can just be left alone to shine forever - day and night, and not take up electricity when the solar/battery powered concept is done. The power needed to power one of those things is not going to be cheap, and we will need to implement a bunch of functions - dimmers, motion sensing, timed on and off, and being able to have enough interact light inside to be powered enough to stay on all day. Most concepts are simple but they still need research and money to do.

Just going to throw this out there, maybe shoot for a lower kickstarter goal, streamline your process, try florescent lights instead of LED's , yes they aren't as energy efficient and don't last nearly as long as LEDs but they're cheaper upfront (maybe if these take off the costs of getting LED's won't be an issue). Good Luck, man.

we'd need to make the boxes deeper then - otherwise the flourescents would shot as big white lines behind it. Nope the LEDs work fine. Making them bigger though will cost a lot more LEDS which is part of where the price come in, as well as either custom making the boxes with custom sizes of wood, or having to outsource them to another company which can get very expensive.

kickstarter price can't be changed once it's started. We shall see how it does, that's all there is to it. I understand you think the amt is absurd, but you're not the one making them. They are also printed on a bigass printer with special lightbox paper, opaque on one slide, clear and shiny on the other.

At 7/13/14 11:24 PM, Fifty-50 wrote: Looks good. Although I don't really think they would profit well if you somehow made them bigger. They're a tough sell even in regular size. Also the thing is that it isn't terribly entertaining nor exotic enough to be a center piece. Granted, I really thing 10k dollars is too high of a goal. I think this would realistically garner something more in the $600 - $800 dollar range and that's already lucky.

Sad truth

one would also think 50 grand for mashed potatos would be too high.. yet there they are lol..

also it all depends on the picture - this kickstarter is more for funding the technology - people love lit work - when I did my lightbox show in toronto I had people standing in front of them like slackjawed idiots for 5 minutes.. so clearly they resonate with people.

At 7/13/14 11:10 PM, ornery wrote:

At 7/13/14 11:07 PM, theclassybutler wrote:

At 7/13/14 10:46 PM, ornery wrote: I would support this but its not potato salad.

Why the hell would anyone support potato salad? Anyone can make for very little money, and unless you're trying to kickstart a food product, I wouldn't use Kickstarter for potato salad.

6006 people and almost $50k (at time of posting) decided they would support potato salad.

that's ridiculous, but people will do anything if they get a piece of the action.

this is the only gross part.. it still has 2 weeks to go, and 2 weeks for processing after.. that potato salad is gonna have gone bad by the time he ships it out - oh well, he can use that money for legal fees :P

just like the coolest cooler guy can use his for legal fees when people electrocute themselves when the music docking station isn't exactly "waterproof"..

the video specifically:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nroS-uWFJI

ok so the new video is up! It took friggen forever and was the most tedious thing ever to sync all the text.. but I decided to use my weaknesses here as a strength, and make a point of the darkness :)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/897097162/illuminality-the-lightbox-experience-to-light-your

At 7/13/14 07:08 PM, Possibly wrote:

so it's a song from like the 50s or 60s or 70d.. kinda prom theme, they've played it in some movies I think.. I remember finding it once but the name was retarded and not something you would remember..

A Whiter Shade of Pale - Or Bach if you prefer the old/old version.

YES!

Thank you :)

At 7/13/14 06:19 AM, JackDCurleo wrote:

At 7/11/14 08:25 PM, SubliminalVirus wrote: . I haven't posted a character in here for a while.

....dun dun dun

Haha, oh man that is an old one.

At 7/11/14 04:19 PM, Chronamut wrote: draw :)

Heads up for future reference to anybody new to this thread: when putting up a character It's always best to upload full body drawings to this thread. When you only upload the bust of your dude dudette or creature people are essentially making up their own character instead of drawing yours.

hahaha omgrofl that's hilarious.. esp. since its a guy haha.. elven king.

probably shoulda uploaded the rest rofl.. eh.. cant be bothered to find the colour version.. lol..

http://picosong.com/PUmm

so it's a song from like the 50s or 60s or 70d.. kinda prom theme, they've played it in some movies I think.. I remember finding it once but the name was retarded and not something you would remember..

does anyone know what it is? This is the intro, and then some black guy sings after.. but it's driving me NUTS..

I realize the futility of asking a community younger than me this, but.. you never know..

At 7/12/14 05:02 PM, Luwano wrote: I think you take constructive crticism very well and appreciate that you try to apply it. I hope you don't mind if I throw in my two cents:

The video is more of a portfolio than a video related to the project. If you are already up for editing it, these kind of projects usually have a more informational video. What will be created with the money? How big, how many? Where will they be sold and about how much will they cost? These are not my questions, these are questions that people might be interested it, mostly stuff you also mention in the description.

And please don't get me wrong now, but you should consider replacing your user icon where you are dressed as LotR elf. While it makes clear that you are imaginative, it doesn't come across as "professional" or serious, I'd assume.

For creating a first project, 10.000 CA$ could turn out to be too big to pull off.

I really don't know of this is actually of help, but I wish you good luck with your project.

dunno about the price - I've seen some go for way more.. it will be an experiment and the only way to tell will be to try it out.

I don't want to talk about how the money will be spent as a lot of this is pioneering, so we trial and error as we go - and that's not really something people need to know - that is where the update function of the kickstarter after it ends comes in, so you can keep people posted on the progress. The video will be changed but it will focus more on what I am trying to do - not how the results will be. I hope you understand, but that would be miuch too stressful to try to strive for, esp. with so many unknowns in this field.

ok I took your advice and made some changes:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/897097162/illuminality-the-lightbox-experience-to-light-your

1) all mistrust of the people is gone - I even provide an image with a distribution license for them to use as they wish

2) the rewards have been revamped - now they are almost all physical things - signed posters, framed copies, calenders with my work, cards with my work on it, and my book and lightboxes- that should make it a little more tantalizing without me spending ALL the money on the rewards. I also upped the shipping costs a bit as it will be pricey to send that stuff internationally.

3) the description has been revamped - now it showcases more the possibilities, and shows how everyone can benefit, from it being in public locations (corporate settings is gone) as well as in future allowing others to put their own work in the lightboxes

4) my friends are going to work on a more professional video that only showcases my fractal work. While I still state all my art has value, and all of it has sold in my gallery, I do agree that THIS kickstarter has to focus on the fractals, being they are the most vivid of my work, to drag those types of people in.

hopefully all of this is enough to entice people ;)

At 7/12/14 02:03 PM, Chronamut wrote: also a good point was raised in the rewards - we are rather flexible on what we can produce as the gallery owner that showcases my work in his gallery is also the man that prints all my work - you guys maybe, after observing what i am trying to do, wanna throw in some ideas of rewards (keep in mind the pledges still have to make a profit - I can't eat it all up with rewards and shipping costs) that you would wish to have?

Ill start with instead of having low res images to instead send out posters or even cards

also I don't know if it is fair to compare me, an up and coming artist to a fully established magic the gathering artist who is giving his book away for LESS than it is valued in stores. I can't provide the rewards he is providing, I just don't have the resources or all these "non-released" artworks specifically catered to kickstarter.. :(

also a good point was raised in the rewards - we are rather flexible on what we can produce as the gallery owner that showcases my work in his gallery is also the man that prints all my work - you guys maybe, after observing what i am trying to do, wanna throw in some ideas of rewards (keep in mind the pledges still have to make a profit - I can't eat it all up with rewards and shipping costs) that you would wish to have?

Ill start with instead of having low res images to instead send out posters or even cards

At 7/12/14 11:41 AM, Aigis wrote:

At 7/12/14 10:49 AM, Chronamut wrote:

At 7/12/14 10:30 AM, Aigis wrote: Don't be frustrated that your Kickstarter isn't making as much as that one. The only reason the Coolest Cooler is making money is that it's actually worthwhile.

you're a jerk.

Okay, I apologise for being so curt. I'll explain to you a few of the issues with your Kickstarter and why it might not get funded.

1. Your goal is to have these light boxes in corporate meeting rooms. You're asking for funding for your grand goal of selling art to corporations to put in their meeting rooms so their dumb corporate managers can have something to look at while they fall asleep in their dumb corporate meetings.

There's no public benefit. There's no great goal the Kickstarter's working towards. You're not putting these somewhere everyone can see them. You're not making the products accessible to people. There's no reason to want to back this project, other than to receive your rewards.

2. Your rewards kind of suck. You severely overvalue low resolution files of your fractal images.

For comparison, let's look at this currently running art-related Kickstarter. For the value of 4 background images in your Kickstarter, I could get that guy's hardback art book with 180 pages of nice-looking high quality illustrations on paper. Then I could scan them in to make background images if I felt like it.

3. You don't treat your potential backers with respect. Your constant emphasis that backers don't actually own the images you're sending them is you preemptively treating them like thieves.

4. The illustrations in your video look like they were drawn by a 15 year old. They do not reflect well on the artistic value of the fractals you're actually trying to fund.

ok all valid points - also just because something is anime doesn't mean it was "drawn by a 15 year old" - a lot of those images actually have quite a lot of detail in them, and your pov is just that, a point of view, but you do have a point of making it more fractal centric, which I can very much do.

taking the corporations part out is probably a very good idea, the thieves things I am a bit paranoid about - as for what you could get for others - there is the issue of offering rewards that are worth almost as much if not as much as the pledge you are offering. I am rather skittish about that.. but I suppose I can offer more physical based rewards.

also I am putting these people can see them - corporations is only ONE thing my kickstarter mentions - it also mentions homes, patios, balconies, etc.

still this gives me something to work with - next time instead of just bashing something like that you may want to start off with what the person can improve on - as this IS my first kickstarter ever.

At 7/12/14 10:30 AM, Aigis wrote:

Don't be frustrated that your Kickstarter isn't making as much as that one. The only reason the Coolest Cooler is making money is that it's actually worthwhile.

you're a jerk.

At 7/11/14 06:16 PM, J-qb wrote: This is great, I'll have to check, but I'm sure I can spare 200 bucks for a couple of neat background images!

lol I can never tel if you people are being sarcastic or not. I am actually a bit nervous about this part, as I am giving the people the ACTUAL high res images.. I will have to put some sorta watermark on the bottom or something to protect copyright infringement, although all my works are locked away on fineartamerica so if legality ever became an issue I could bring that up..

also shipping around the world can get very costly, which is why I only started to give PHYSICAL things away as awards around the 500 dollar mark, and made them have to pay part of shipping to do so. I have never done anything like this before - but the gallery that I show the work with is owned by a friend of mine, and he does all the printing of my work, so at least we can work together in that regard.

At 7/11/14 11:28 PM, theclassybutler wrote:

At 7/11/14 11:18 PM, zmosh wrote: That seems really interesting for everyone to see. It'll also make millions of dollars.

Hold it, tiger. It may make millions of dollars, but I have a feeling, since Newgrounds isn't that well known, the OP might make a good amount of money, but it's going to take a lot of patience and a lot of hard work to get this off the ground. No one should automatically assume this idea is going to succeed. Not trying to rain on the parade or anything, I'm just being realistic. That being said, I agree with everyone here; this idea is pretty cool and if I weren't in a financial choke hold, I would definitely support it.

well currently I am painstakingly creating them all by hand - if I got a lot of money that would actually allow me to source that part out - which would make things MUUUUUCH easier - or at least get parts custom painted, as the painting of the frames is the most cumbersome and annoying part of all.

also in case you didn't notice, you can pledge as low as a dollar to the project :)

and yes so far the patience part is kiling me.. no pledges as of yet, which is discouraging, because project such as THIS one are already cresting 3 million dollars.. so people clearly have money, they are just choosey where they dump it it seems. It makes me a little frustrated..

I still have 22 days left to go though at least.The guy who did reading rainbow did a kickstarter to bring it back - he got a million bucks in a DAY.

At 7/10/14 11:27 PM, Chronamut wrote:
draw my user pic off my userpage :)

Its this one, right? I will when I have time. I promise.

you got it! :)

you cna see a front version of him as the last part post I did as well - same guy :)