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At 7/29/08 10:07 PM, Elfer wrote:

At 7/29/08 04:56 PM, Christopherr wrote: I doubt any of you who actually like Obama would object the first one made was about McCain, though.

I would think it was just as stupid, but I think it's more comedic when it's Barack Obama.

McCain doesn't really market himself to the young folks as much, so a parody of it would make less sense, yes.

At 7/29/08 09:20 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote:

At 7/29/08 04:56 PM, Christopherr wrote:

I doubt any of you who actually like Obama would object the first one made was about McCain, though.

I can picture it now...

MyMcainspace.com

Even I'd find that hilarious.

It's a pretty good idea, IMO. OMG, the Republicans utilized a relatively new medium for making political smears! Get a grip, candidates have been smearing each other for decades, this is just an inventive form of doing so.

I doubt any of you who actually like Obama would object the first one made was about McCain, though.

At 7/29/08 12:45 PM, Elfer wrote: You can't destroy the entire internet. It's not just a big box somewhere that you can swing an axe into.

YEAH, IT'S A SERIES OF TUBES.

At 7/29/08 02:25 AM, T-N-T wrote: I hate to tell you this, but we are in a recession. Gas prices have been going up, and so has food prices. And lets not forget about our house values as well. Yep, we are NOT having a recession...

HAH, you wouldn't know a recession if it hit you in the face. If this is a recession, it's the mildest one I've ever heard of, merely a technical recession. This is the kind that not many people give a fuck about.

I mean, I'm not rich, and I'm not feeling a whole lot of hurt from this economic slump. My apartment still costs the same to rent, and I don't really use my car to get around much. If high gas prices bother you, just can it and find another way to get to work. If your home isn't valuable right now, chances are you probably don't have to sell it until the housing market goes back up like it always does.

At 7/29/08 12:24 PM, drDAK wrote: Well the general idea of race is not more of a genetic thing but more of a mental thing. The sooner people begin to realise that there is little to no physical difference between themselves, the sooner they will accept being called "American" rather than "White American" or "African American" or "Hispanic American".

Although the physical differences between races are very distinct and will remain distinct for a long time, yes, it is stupid to label oneself as a hyphenated US American. The vast majority of African-Americans wouldn't be able to trace their lineage back to Africa. It should just be that if you're born in the USA, you're an African-American, regardless the country your family originated from. Hell, if you want to expand the hyphenated American label system, the only people who are real Americans are the Indians. So um, I'm a European-American.

Basically, "race" is all in your head. We are all humans, and we all live in the same culture (The American culture). I'll give it 100 years before most people subscribe that they are no longer any "race" but that they are American.

I sure hope that happens.

At 7/29/08 01:40 AM, drDAK wrote: All I am saying is that Americans will eventually combine to create a race because all "race" is is just something we made up to define something that looks slightly different than us.

No, you said it would happen in 100 years, which is what I refuted, because we cannot be sure it will definitely happen and we can be sure it won't anytime soon. I never refuted the idea of a single race, but instead when that might happen.

At 7/29/08 01:26 AM, Al6200 wrote: I wonder why Creationists don't talk about Gibbs free energy instead of the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

The second law of thermodynamics doesn't even cover all of creation, anyways. All it can prove is that the universe had a beginning and was started by a force outside the laws of thermodynamics.

It doesn't necessarily mean a creator-god, even to a religious person such as myself.

At 7/29/08 12:21 AM, drDAK wrote:

At 7/28/08 10:38 PM, Christopherr wrote:

Sure, but that is not the case always. Just in case you haven't noticed, the number of "pure" races has shrunk tremendously and it won't be long before mixed Americans (like me) become the new face of America. Our own race.

Lol, this is hilarious. Once more, in order to get a single American race, EVERY person of that race must have very similar heritage. This means, they must have close percentages of every major race in the US in them, not just a couple of them. This is far too complicated of a thing to happen in a handful of generations, 100 years.

Point being, it's going to happen whether or not you like it.

Point being, it's not happening as fast as you'd like it to, as much of a chubby as the thought gives you.

At 7/28/08 12:21 PM, Sawke wrote: didn't China try that? does anyone know how exactly they managed to get such a huge population anyway?

Oh, they've had vast numbers of people many hundreds of years before modern times. For example, European countries never fully controlled China's heavily populated mainland, but could only control less populous coastal lands.

They have a strange predicament, because the larger their population gets, the faster it grows. Exponential growth is LAME.

At 7/28/08 05:16 PM, Drakim wrote: No, I'm not talking about human races, but species. Sorry, bad choice of words.

I was speaking towards the OP, sorry for not quoting.

At 7/28/08 05:10 PM, drDAK wrote:

At 7/28/08 05:09 PM, Christopherr wrote: What the fuck are you talking about? The concept of race is going to exist as long as there are races. I assure you that it will take more than a hundred years for all races to mold together into a single one, and in fact, it might not happen ever.

Thanks for the sources Great Wizard.

You don't need a source, you moron. To remove race from society means that:
1) Every country have about the same levels of every race. If you really think that you can set up a situation as such, you're out of your mind. Africa will always be mostly black. China will always be mostly Chinese, and therefore most babies produced by China will be Chinese.
and
2) Throughout the world, interracial couples be dominant over couples that are not. If most people are making babies with those of their own race, the world as a whole is not becoming a single race.
and
3) Wealth would have to be distributed evenly among each race, because if you don't, racial mixing won't occur within certain economic groups. If you advocate this, you're just an idiot.

Those are just three things off the top of my head, but you should get the picture.

This would take an extremely long time to occur, if it did, because there are no definite skin colors. Seeing as how people can have kids with whoever the fuck they want, they will usually gravitate towards people of their own race, people who they look like.

I make a point to not be a hypocrite. I just don't give a fuck about global warming, since it's more of a political subject than a serious environmental issue. Since both sides of the argument still have enough valid information to justify them, I'm just going to wait to do anything until we find out whether or not I absolutely need to spend my money on expensive environmental stuff.

At any rate, I'm not doing a damn thing about my emissions until it saves me money to do so. With the current prices of good hybrids, even used ones, it would take many years for me to make up the difference in cost between the hybrid and a fuel-efficient gas car. Since I don't drive much or very far, I bought a gas-efficient sedan for daily driving.

What the fuck are you talking about? The concept of race is going to exist as long as there are races. I assure you that it will take more than a hundred years for all races to mold together into a single one, and in fact, it might not happen ever.

At 7/28/08 03:01 PM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: Der Lowe says hi. Apparently he's now poor and on a crappy computer which is unable to access NG properly and is forcing me to be his ' NG ambassador'

Tell him he's missed the party. You know, where we all drink and smoke and eat cake.

I believe the second law of thermodynamics can be used to prove that the universe had a definite beginning in which a force operating outside the laws of thermodynamics comes into play, but it does not have much to do with evolution... The universe, being one large closed system, has energy that is changing from available to unavailable. If you wind back time, all that energy was once available energy. This points that a force acting outside the laws of thermodynamics had to give the universe the available energy in the first place.

It doesn't really prove much, because it just leads into the "What created the universe?" argument, which we still have no answer for.

You're misinterpreting the "order" and "disorder" statements, most likely, because they are talking about energy, not biological structure.

At 7/26/08 09:09 PM, Drakim wrote:

At 7/26/08 08:19 PM, Christopherr wrote: China did this, and I don't consider them a very green state.

But their lack of green skills has nothing to do with their population control system.

So why the fuck was it suggested as a means of making a country greener?

China did this, and I don't consider them a very green state.

At 7/26/08 04:40 PM, SkunkyFluffy wrote: Doesn't make it any less valid than Brave New World or any other classic work of dystopian imagination. Instead of knocking something for its audience, you could always try understanding it.

There's a reason it's given to the young audience, obviously. Sure, your statement holds true if it were written on an adult level, but it wasn't.

The Giver was written with a fairly common vocabulary and fairly simple literary devices, leaving less to be interpreted, just like a children's author would write.

However, Aldous Huxley wrote books for adults, back in a time where it took high-level literary talent to become a "classic."

At 7/25/08 11:49 PM, SkunkyFluffy wrote: You're not really scoring a lot of points, fella.

The Giver is dystopia for children, that's why it is on many middle school reading lists.

At 7/25/08 11:51 PM, SolInvictus wrote: which could possibly result in another Berlin airlift.

The Berlin Airlift was not done out of goodwill. It was done to humiliate the Soviets during the Cold War.

Then there's the matter that a bunch of planes illegally flying in US airspace would be shot down these days... We're a little paranoid about planes going where they shouldn't...

On top of that, no outside country hates the US enough to fund an airlift solely to spite us.

At 7/25/08 11:40 PM, animehater wrote: What about Lesotho?

Completely forgot about it, but South Africa is a very different state than the US. The US would surely block it off until it assimilated back into it.

Edit: significant countries.

Why are they asking the country that owns their land to secede? Like the US is going to be completely retarded and let a piece of land the size of a state, along with many tax dollars, just go away?

Plus, the US would still have absolute control over the area, because it is inside of the US. We could cut its trade off completely until they shut the fuck up and listen to us, among other things. This is why no country in the world (with the exception of a few insignificant city-states) exists landlocked with one border to a single country.

So it's just stupid to grant them secession, because it would accomplish nothing but hurting the government.

At 7/25/08 10:11 PM, SevenSeize wrote: The Giver is like that, only its a novel for younger people. It's like a junior high level book I suppose.

But everything is strictly controlled, and when kids hit puberty they start taking special "vitamins" to keep them from feeling anything sexual or romantic.

Dude, The Giver has nothing on Brave New World.

Plus, The Giver has that gay crap where only one person is allowed to see colors and feel shit. There's no magical bullcrap in BNW.

At 7/25/08 09:19 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Monk: Where do i sign up?

Me: It didn't exist

Monk: I know but still...it would have been perfect...*sob*

Proteas: Not again *facepalm*

You have managed to completely lose me. I have no clue whatsoever what you're talking about, man.

At 7/25/08 01:09 AM, LazyDrunk wrote: Everybody recommend a single PS2 game, book and CD I should buy, and why it's awesome to you.

Shadow of the Colossus--Fucking seriously, this game has next-gen graphics even though it was PS2. Basically, you are a kid who brings this dead bitch to an altar, and this voice from nowhere (sounds like God) tells you to go kill colossi. So you ride your horse to the colossi, directed by light that shines off your sword when you hold it up to the sun, and realize that they are really fucking large. Basically, you have to find out how to grab onto parts of it and climb up, usually to its head area, and stab the fuck out of it until it dies. Then it shoots these black shits into you and you pass out, only to wake up back in the altar place with your dead bitch, and God says to go kill the next one.

Oh, and the world is really lonely. There isn't anything there except for you, the colossi, and various small animals.

Aldous Huxley's Brave New World--Dude, coolest dystopia ever. Babies aren't born anymore, but instead cultured from single eggs which are split apart to produce up to 96 identical babies. These babies are conditioned throughout childhood and adolescence to do all sorts of wrong shit, like drown all strong emotions in drugs and sex and cringe at the mere mention of books or mothers.

With Teeth by Nine Inch Nails--Pretty damn good CD, particularly the songs "Getting Smaller" and "The Hand That Feeds."

At 7/25/08 12:14 AM, Proteas wrote:

At 7/24/08 11:35 PM, Christopherr wrote: Rumor has it that mods can ban via cell phone now.

*leers*

Who told you?

Scuttlebutt.

At 7/24/08 11:47 PM, fli wrote:

At 7/24/08 11:35 PM, Christopherr wrote: Rumor has it that mods can ban via cell phone now.

Yet... try to find one that has good reception and will NEVER drop.

Depends where you live, I suppose.

I have relatively shit service in my home, but it's fantastic in the city. And if you want to, with some companies, you can pay extra for a service boost.

Rumor has it that mods can ban via cell phone now.

Russia supports any President that they feel is too weak to exert any kind of authority over them, plain and simple.

At 7/21/08 02:59 AM, stafffighter wrote: Christian Bale has said that when the Joker make up came off Heath was Heath and I beleive him. People want to beleive the role killed him because it's sensationalistic. Frankly, you're buying right into it.

I honestly don't care what one of the other actors said. If you think that Bale's words overrule Ledger's actions, you'd be the one mistaken.

He absolutely went over the edge method acting. Look at the production notes pertaining to it and you can see the full extent of this insanity. If someone pretends to be something he is not for long enough, he starts to act like he really is. For example, the Stanford Prison Experiment immersed a few people in the roles of guards and prisoners in a mock prison setting. Guess what? The guards started to show genuine sadism, and many prisoners left traumatized.

Along with a possibly broken heart from Michelle Williams and his prior mental issues, his immersion most likely contributed to his overdosing.

The guy wasen't the first movie star to o.d and they don't all have researching crazy people to pin it on.

So because other actors have overdosed... Ledger did it for the same reasons as they did.