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Conservation and Ecocentrist. And if I were more of a beliver in unprovable ideas, I'd be a supporter of the Strong Gaia principle.

At 1/19/04 11:54 PM, Chaoslight wrote: Ok, I'm really setting myself up here, abut in all likelihood by the next time I visit the loung will have grown three pages and I'll never find teh snide comments anyway, so here goies:

I haven't been on much, because I have found something more fun. Will anyone actually miss me?

I doubt it.

Well, that answers that. :-)

Grandmaster has a point: It's a lot more likely, given the age of the universe, that intelligent aliens would have traveled to earth far in the past, if at all, but it's more likely that they arrived, saw primordeal soup, ate a half-sandwitch and tossed the rest into a rockpool, and left.

Of course, we're still talking FTL, less than one percent of one percent of one percent of one percent of probability,

Then again, what about that 'flying shark' that ezekiel saw? I think it was Ezekiel.

The problem with alien-gods is that most peopl ewho propose this theory use them to explain easter island, stonehenge, and the pyramids, instead of believing that primative humans could be good at engineering.

Ok, I'm really setting myself up here, abut in all likelihood by the next time I visit the loung will have grown three pages and I'll never find teh snide comments anyway, so here goies:

I haven't been on much, because I have found something more fun. Will anyone actually miss me?

I doubt it.

At 1/16/04 02:24 PM, Dagodevas wrote:

At 1/16/04 02:00 PM, Chaoslight wrote: The way you live your life is up to you. If there is to be heavenly judgement, shouldn't we leave that up to Heaven?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the exact same way the Calvinists see it?

I think that calvanism is more like 'you were born going to heaven or hell, and nothing you do can chage it.' What I'm talking about is 'if something you choose to do is going to send you to hell, isn't that enough without someone else hastening your trip?'

(Also posted on http://www.giveupalready.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44603 by me.)

Truly. Does it matter if someone is atheist or agnostic or hindu, or muslim, or jewish, or christian, or prodistant, or catholic, and bhuddist, or jainist, or satanist, or wiccan, or druidic, or calvanist?

The way you live your life is up to you. If there is to be heavenly judgement, shouldn't we leave that up to Heaven? If there is karmic judgement, shouldn't we leave it up to karma? The rules people abide by in temporal society should be based on what we know, not what we believe.

For exapmle, anti-gay legislation. Even if gay people do go to hell, which I sencerely doubt, is it your right to hasten their journey? Is it your right to deny them rights based solely on your fear of the unknown guided by a highly controversial text?

If god did create the universe, he seems to have put it under the dictates of science, at least until he steps in more directly. Science, then, is the word of god, even if it is only temporary. If god wanted us to ignore what science tells us, would he have set up such elaborate 'ruses' as paelentological evidence, background microwave echoes of the big bang, and so on?

We need to stop making laws based on emotion and more based on common sense, otherwise why were we given it?

Never scared... hmmm

Let's see, I've been inside an aboandoned mental hospital, on the run from cops, crotchdeep in liquid dirt and rust, moving toward the building where those who still dwell there reside. The crazies. The kind of crazy where iof they catch you they will probably kill you and then try to ask your name. And by 'kill' I mean tie you up and skin you.

And you know what I've learned? Fear is healthy. It's your body's way of saying: You should not be here. If you stay here, you will die. Fear makes you alert. Fear makes you cautious. Fear is good. People who are not afraid tend to die young. I look forward to seeing your obituary.

Fucking dumbass.

At 1/15/04 04:02 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: To inform the ignorant... what's SETI?

Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence.

Just in case. Though if someone is on the politics board and doesn't know that... then I guess space isn't their forté.

Random thought: Dosn't this validate the comparison many people make between Ann Coulter and Michael Moore? You know, the one that says they're both misleading, alter the facts to support their claims, sometimes make things up...

<opinion>
Except that Ann Coulter is an evil conservative bitch and Michael Moore is a misleading liberal comedian. And that Moore is right, even if he does use trickery to make his point.</opinion>

Please not I'm not excusing him, merely pointing out that you have your own rabid propagandist.

SETI isn't the answer. What is the likelihood that another race, with the drive to explore space, the technology to do it practicly, and the desire for resources or land that would most likely drive a species like ours to the stars, will be benevolent?

If we find no answer, there will always be more sky to search.
If we find a signal of a pre-space-flight culture, it will frustrate us to no end and create mass paranoia.
If we attract the attention of a ship:
a) and if they are hostile, we're screwed.
b) and they're not hostile, many people will still be paranoid, and how likely is it they will care enough to help us?

And besides, i think we should complete STI before beginning SETI

Fuck: an acronym. In 'olden days' when a couple wanted to have premarital sex, they would get a wavier and post it on their door.

Fornication
Under
Consent of the
King

I just noticed something odd. I tried to log on, and the menu bar (Sign-In, Join, NG, portal, games... the one with pictures) started moving around. I had to keep trying to get an error message so it would stop moving and I could log in. Has anyone else noticed this?

At 1/7/04 10:22 AM, D2KVirus wrote:

At 1/7/04 09:05 AM, Veggiemeal wrote: Hey don't look at me. I didn't even know that word excisted in the first place. But I know a way to change the topic. Let's discuss the word "moobs".

What the hell is that, the new cow in the pasture that says "BUSH RAWKS!!!"?

Moobs: Man-boobs. He-hooters. Masculine Mammaries.

You're all cretens, with the exception of those who mentioned:

Babylon 5: best sci-fi show ever, for hte following reasons: acting, scientific comprehensibility, political commentary, no internal inconsistancies, and teh fact that it just plain pwns joo.

Red Dwarf: Funny as hell

MST3K: Ditto

Star Trek: Has gone downhill lately, but I feel some loyalty to it as it is what got me into the genre in the first place.

B-Star G: The precursor to Star Trek in many ways. Loyalty, although it is far from B5 standards.

V: Just plain awesome.

Best book EVAR (sic):

Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them

By Al Franken

My favorite chapter title is chapter 40: I meet former first lady Barbara Bush and it doesn't go well.

Harpy nude leer, everyone.

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate

Every sperm is useful
Every sperm is good
Every sperm is needed
In your neighborhood

Let the heathens spill theirs
On the dusty ground
God will make them PAY
For each sperm that can't be found

<song and dance number>
Deedle dum dah deedle dum dah deedly doodly dee.
</s&d #>

Every sperm is graceful
Every sperm is fine
God needs everybodies
Mine And mine and mine.

Not all change is good.

However, the way the liberals largely want things changes is mostly for hte good, whereas conservatives want things to stagnate like the Arkansas gene pool.

At 12/31/03 02:56 AM, TheShrek wrote:

At 12/29/03 09:57 PM, Chaoslight wrote: DAMN YOU ALL FOR NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO MY INSIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS!!!!!

So what broke?

Me damn video card broked, and not 24 hours after me gots it back from de shop, the damn hard drive failed. For the second timne in less than a year.

New years for me: Sitting in my study, reinstalling all my software, or going out w/gf. Or possiby staying in, if it's cold.

DAMN YOU AL FOR NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO MY INSIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS!!!!!

Wow, that sounded like every presidential campaign since I've been alive.

At 12/29/03 07:07 PM, JudgeFUNK wrote:

At 12/29/03 05:30 AM, bumcheekcity wrote: Do they ALL say daft, cliché stuff like that?

You do realize that was straight out of the Fascist stockbook, right? World State. One world, under one government. NWO. Get it now?

*resents being compared to models, especially when he's being a Fascist*

Awww.... it's ok, funk... we understand... your Big Brother will take care of this... ;)

I gots me Glove. Even thoug my computer, just back from the hospital, broke again. Shite and damn.

Not really a wish, more of a plan.

To run for president on an anarchist platform and win. With my running mate as a black satanist lesbian. The instant I won I would retire.

At 12/27/03 04:51 PM, BWS wrote: *casually floats by*
Hey folks
*disappears*

Damn you, BWS. every time I see that rotating PC logo, I spend the night wide awake trying to figure out what it would look like in good lighting.

I think BWS is the witch!

At 12/27/03 11:45 AM, bringerofbadinfo wrote:

At 12/26/03 06:06 PM, Chaoslight wrote: *points at bringerofbadinfo*

He turned me into a newt!

What's that?

*looks embarressed*

...Well I got better...

I know JudgeFunk is kidding, otherwise he would not have St. DAG in his sig.

*points at bringerofbadinfo*

He turned me into a newt!

At 12/25/03 04:11 PM, bombkangaroo wrote: well, maybe rather than lots of bad things happenning, there would just be more people donating to sperm banks and stuff?

In a society where jacking off is illegal, sperm banks would be black market.

>.< During the prohibition, people went to speakeasys to drink. people killed each other over alchohol. Imagine a society where pornography is contraband and people sit around in dimly-lit rooms pleasuring themselves while knowing at any moment the police could come in, and the only things they could shoot to defend themselves from the police would be...

Sounds 1984ish, to me.

At 12/25/03 03:47 PM, darkphantom wrote:

At 12/25/03 03:04 PM, Chaoslight wrote:

At 12/25/03 02:58 PM, 0_OkthxbyeO_0 wrote: Wouldn't those silly scientists blow themselves up to holy hell while creating anti-matter in an evironment which is 100% mater? (I'm not too familiar with Hyperphysics.) How could the anti-matter be contained? :\

I believe they isolate the antimater in a total vacuum chamber and suspend it magneticly, but I am not sure. It sounds right, though.

thats pretty much right... they find these atoms by smashing them together at light speeds in a partical acellerator and they take photos of them at the moment of impact and all the little bits of atoms go flying everywhere. then some luckey scientist gets the job of naming all the bits and gave them gimpish names like

(Quarks) Little itty bits of atom there are about 200 of these that we know of with stupid names like Alpha and Zeta

(Antimatter) see above... basicley evil matter

(Tachyons) Stupid atoms that don't like the laws of phyisics so they ignore them and fly faster than the speed of light ...basterds...

(Neutrenos) Yeah these things don't understand the word "STOP" they sorta fly though anything they feel like.

(Photons) These are light in a can they bounce around alot.

There is alot more junk but its not as nice as this stuff.
and I can't be sure this is how they do it I kinda dossed the science test so they don't let me do it in collage.

You forgot about: positrons, which are electrons that travel back in time so that they gater a positive spin.

Fermions, which, due to some odd hyperdimensional geometry, only return to the same orientation if you fully rotate them twice, and which make up all matter that we know of.

Gluons, which hold quarks together.

Bosons, which make up all energy as we know it.

At 12/25/03 02:58 PM, 0_OkthxbyeO_0 wrote: Wouldn't those silly scientists blow themselves up to holy hell while creating anti-matter in an evironment which is 100% mater? (I'm not too familiar with Hyperphysics.) How could the anti-matter be contained? :\

I believe they isolate the antimater in a total vacuum chamber and suspend it magneticly, but I am not sure. It sounds right, though.