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At 2/25/07 03:55 PM, ObsessedOne wrote: Umm when he comes we'll find out.......

That's bacically what all the religions say...

Even the reigions that dont believe in Christ? =p

At 2/24/07 11:45 AM, JakeHero wrote:

And it was a surprise attack that happened once. We never let such a thing happen again. How many bombing runs did the germans conduct on the british? Apples and oranges, Boltrig. During this time you were relying on supplies shipped by us.

And how many runs did we conduct on the Germans? I really dont think anyone of our cities were bombed "into oblivion". All the major manufacturing centres remained damaged but intact for most of the war.
The main point though is that we "let" hitler bomb us. Same as you "let" the japs bomb you then. We didnt want it to happen, we did what we could to stop it, but it happened anyway. Same as Pearl Harbour.

If you're referring to Operation Overlord then yes. The US was at the spearhead.
We did one better, we participated in every theatre in WW2 and were the most effective ally.

Yes.

I mean you personally. What remains of the WW2 veterans are slowly losing numbers, and I doubt that you are one of them. Since you personally did not put your life on the line, then I feel no obligation to kiss your feet. Even if you were a WW2 vet I still wouldnt. I am not subserviant to them in any way. Yes these were great men, who did a remarkably brave thing for their respective nations, but that does not elevate them to a level above that of the ordinary man.

Respect where respect is due, but not subserviance.

Then we will kiss fuck all of yours mate. You are not a WW2 veteran, and so deserve none of the respect that they do.

And once again, I didn't say that I was. I was replying to the asshole before you saying how he should be thankful to this nation for changing the course of WW2.

Well you did suggest that we bow down to you and so forth. That sounds like you taking the glory. Plus, as the US is supposed to be an ally of the UK, why didnt the US jump in at the start of the war?

So does that mean you're a member of the bolshevik movement?

No, ive just watched too many movies with the stereotypical militarist Russian bad guys.

I don't see why you have your panties in a tissy, considering, for the last time, I was talking to the asshole before you.

Thats as may be, but you slandered the UK in doing so. Im just sticking up for the side.

At 2/23/07 03:22 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:

Well, the socond coming would be the Apocalypse, right? So throwing all those who have the mark of the beast into boiling lava, and those woh haven't, bringing them with him to the new Israel.

Well... say a slightly less Apocolyptic coming. Less of the lava-throwing, more of a just popping round to let you know he's still watching.

At 2/9/07 03:00 PM, Tomsan wrote:

I think atheist should be more militant. Many atheists are well educated people so most of them (not me) have manners, ...

Yes, I can see youre definetly in the atheists eho missed out on a good education section.

FUCK all religious people fuck them all! I dont need to respect them, there fucking caddle, there the narrow-minded* sheep. make them slaves those fucking morons.

Thatd be, er, ca TT le there genius. So if you dont respect religious types, why should they respect you? Why would you bother to deny something that doesnt exist? If youre so certain theres no god why do you get so riled up about it? Im agnostic. Open to the concept of religion but unconvinced. If someone can convince me theres a god then cool, but my current standpoint doenst make me respect religious types any less.

Its no wonder Nigel Powers hates you:
Nigel Powers: All right Goldmember. Don't play the laughing boy. There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch

I think Kim Jong Il wants the US to invade. After all, he's ... so ... ronery! So ronery! So ronery an sad real rone...

In all seriousness though, its pretty relieving to see something like this. Its a step back from conflict, which should give the US time to square up its affairs in Iraq. (If the new Prez has any sense)

Like I was always told, finish one thing, then start another.

Posing to the "Attack on Religion" thread got me thinking.

In this day and age, if there was a second coming of Jesus (And Im only going on about Christianity cause its my background ; Im not confident enough on other religions to comment) How could he prove he is the son of God?

I mean if cheap LA lounge magicians can levitate a tiger or whatnot, then producing a few extra loaves or changing some water into wine wont exactly sway the crowd this time round.

What do you think NG?

At 2/23/07 09:54 AM, How-about-no wrote: Why would they want to teach religion in schools? When I was a t school they taught us things that actually help me in later life.

goes to a job interview

"What are your qualifications?"
"I'm a badass at praying"

But religion isn't the only thing you get taught. Same as if you went to a job interview and told them that you did nothing but gym class. Unless youre going for a career in sports thats not goin to help much.

I think the decline of religion can be attributed to the fact that people haven't been given a sign in centuries. In the bible times (and Im only going with Christianity cause thats what I know) you'd get a prophet every so often up till Jesus. After that, boom, nothing. The shine tarnishes after 2000 years.

At 2/23/07 11:51 AM, HogWashSoup wrote: i'll tell you why we should use nukes.

iraq. if we had nuked them in the first place then we wouldnt have had this problem.

what we need to do is nuke all countries that are our enemies.

and about the part you said of it would be an invite to other countries to use nukes, that is stupid.

we used nukes on japan. 2 of them. smaller versions of the ones today called atom bombs, and that pretty much shut them up.

I think the lolipop in the hand that indicates your level is well deserved in this case.
That part about other countries being encouraged to use nuclear weapons is not stupid, its a good point.
Japan had no nuclear capability at the time of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, thats why it shut them up. If They had the ability to retaliate (either by hiding the nukes on subs or in hardened bunkers) then the US would have been nuked back.
That is the state of play these days ; America is no longer the only nuclear power. The release of WMDs would bring about a shift of opinions (IE America used them why cant we?)

we are america and we have nukes. nukes are a weapon. no diffrent then the other bombs that we have except that you just need one for a large area. 100% effective.

No different except that its a horrificly destructive force that not only kills outright, but kills by radiation poisoning and leads to fallout, the effects of which last generations.

you just dont want to use nukes because you are a stupid democrat.

i think all democrats should be ignored and thrown out of the country. they are a threat to the real people of the country.

nukes are great and we must use them.

What a 'tard.

clear and simple.

At 2/20/07 11:07 PM, JakeHero wrote:

You demonstrated that quite effectively. Tell me, was letting Hitler bomb your puny cities into oblivion a defensive strategy?

And was having your naval fleet decimated at Pearl Harbour a planned tactic then?

One way or another, without America, you'd either be speaking german or russian. So you can bow down and kiss our feet for saying your ungrateful ass.

I think you mean to say saving. and were not ungratefull. But did you fight in the Normandy landings? Did you take part in the protracted Europe campain? No? Then we will kiss fuck all of yours mate. You are not a WW2 veteran, and so deserve none of the respect that they do.

As a side note, I wouldnt mind speaking Russian so shove it!

At 2/21/07 02:18 PM, random8982 wrote:

With Britain in close second.

Yes, I can see how almost 10 trillion dollars is close to 830bilion dollars. Working it out as a per person share the UK citizen has $13,781.7 of national debt on their head, whereas Americans have $29,081.11 each. Thats more than double, and when you consider the population of the US, this makes the close second statement appear all the more hollow.

Everyone just pays more attention to America because we're the world super power.

No, people pay attention to America in the same way that you pay attention to a car wreck. Your afraid of what youre going to come across next, but damnit, you cant look away. Its llike incredibly morbid entertainment.

I dont hate America. I agree with the general statement that America bashing seems to be the accepted political activity of the moment, but I really cant go along with it. Yes there have been some daft decisions regarding war and whatnot, but thats high level government, not the people.
If my postings on the arrogant americans thread have shown me anything it is that there are a few Americans that conform to the steriotypes and are ruining the rep of the rest of the country.

Thats because it is arrogant to present your beliefs as truth. The key word is belief.
The point of the word is that it defines something you hold as a personal truth. This does not mean that you automaticaly impose it on the world at large as a scentific fact.

Take it for example that you beling to a monotheistic religion. You believe that there is only one god. You believe this to be true.
Then take Hinduism, a polytheistic religious system. They believe in more than one god. That is what they think is true.

Belief is a personal truth, and people have every right to their own. Its when you see these people in the streets tryin to convert you. Thats arrogance.

Evangalist "Jesus is the Way and the Light! He is the one true Saviour"
Me: "Prove it. Prove that Mohammed is not the Saviour. Prove that any one of the Hindu gods are inferior to Jesus."
Evangalist"... They are heathens!..."
Me"Thought not."

I think this is an attempt at a flame post guys. Either that or some little preteen offering views on topics he really doesnt get.

And phrasing them in a stupid way! =D

Yaay! I have angered the teeny little gimp to the point that he has admitted his arguments are worthless and he's gone on a rant! Its funny to recieve a win in this kind of format!

Im not going to bother with point by point owning of your "arguments", and instead once more draw attention to your scrutiny of only spelling, not the issues.

Plus im sorry to say that if Scotland simply ceased to exist, that probably have your nations scientists flying over immediately to find out what the fuck happened, and your nick jr shows would still be cancelld.

Go punch a wall to vent your anger, and leave sensible arguments to the big people now, k?

At 2/3/07 05:44 PM, chocolate-penguin wrote:

Great job spelling generalizing. I'm not being arrogant, ...

Explosives set, timer counting down, well thats one well sabotaged argument! Generalising is the spelling this side of the atlantic. Chalk up one more score on the arrogance. It was English first. Its now been bastardised into American. No matter how Americanised the world comes, I will never spell colour with no "u". I will never over-use the letter "z".

I'm just not being some pussy who is going to say the exact opposite about what I think about you so the rest of the world is in love with him.

O.K. for starters this statement makes no grammatical sense. What I think you were getting at and mis-typed in your teeny rage is that you are your own man, with you own opinions, and you will voice them, even if it makes you seem unpopular. Yes?
Well congrats, youve aired your views, now put them away again. You are being arrogant, and so much so that you cant see that you are.

If Scotland were to blow up in a nuclear explosion right this second, how would I be affected? And I don't mean nuclear fallout. Maybe countries like China, Japan, England, Germany, France, Russia but definitely not Scotland.

Well for a start all your favourite nick shows would be cancelled, and youd have nothing but news about it. Secondly, it would probably mean that either a rogue state or a terrorist organisation had possession of thermonuclear devices. This would lead to an unprecedented arms race and army drafting, as Bush, with what remains of his presidency, rushes to root out the causes of terror in another speight of global conflict. This would push Americas national defecit into the tens of trillions of dollars and national bankruptcy. National assets would have to be sold off to private collections and asset aquirement agencies. America would change pretty radically, little man.

*AMERICANS DO NO CARE BECAUSE WHAT YOU THINK DOES NOT HAVE AN AFFECT ON US IN ANY WAY*

w00t! teh arrogance!

NEWSFLASH FOR THE INCREDIBLY SLOW
All so called 1st world countries have problems with illegal immigration, not just the states. So before you go on about "all you people tripping over each other to get into the states" think for a moment. Write out what you want to say in a first draft. Press and hold delete, then turn your computer off and go get a clue. I think theres a special on at Wal mart.

Haha, funny. You're just proving how little you know about American culture. It's nothing like what the BBC tells you. It's not like McDonalds and Wal Mart are where all the "cool kidz" loiter. For example, at my school anyone who shops at Wal-Mart is ridiculed, and they say things like "You shop at all Wal-Mart because they have low prices, always" and implying that whoever shops there is poor.

Hmm, so out of my argument, all you can pick out to have a go at is the wal mart statement. I picked wal mart out of a list of a few American retailers i know, to make a satirical statement. In no way did I imply that I watch BBC productions, think that wal mart is where the (god I cant believe Im typing this) "cool kidz" hang out, or that wal mart is the epitome of the retail therapy experience.

Also, it sounds like you're being arrogant enough to gereralise the multitude of cultures found across the entire length and bredth of the US into your bracketed view of "American culture". Please define American culture for me. Lets see how many of your countrymen you alienate.

And I think you do care. If I was to walk up to you in the street (ignoring the fact id slap you square in the chops for belittleing Scotland in general and Sean Connery in particular) and calld you an asshole, you'd cry. Instead of knowing that its true and then trying to better yourself.

Haha, sure. You know me from 2 posts on an online message board. Go fuck a sheep.

Yes. I know you are an arrogant whiny little bitch hiding behind his computer. In a face to face debate, you'd crumble.
Fuck a sheep? Harbouring thoughts of beastiality now? Dude, i know growing up messes with your head, but come on!
Oh sure I could make some scathing comment about sexual deviance and the American southern states but that would be a sweeping generalisation (with an S asshole) and they are very silly, arent they now?

At 2/18/07 07:11 PM, EndGameOmega wrote:

Many before I became a physics major. Think and dreaming are always good things even when they go agains the norm.

The only one we ever came up in high school physics was for a fission fusion reactor. I big loop containing fission and fusion chambers. Impossible now but one day ... =D

At 2/19/07 11:31 PM, UWDarDar17 wrote:

Now, I don't support completely universal health care (I don't think it's necessary and it harms me financially in a personal way).

Thats a little weak. Thats really perpetrating the image of the selfish, only-out-for-number-one American that people love to hate. I would hazard a guess that you or youre family is in the section that recieves tax breaks.

Those who can afford to pay for better healthcare should get it. But for those 36 million people, we should at least make some basic form of healthcare assured to them. It makes sense economically; healthy people work better.

Your writings real like the thoughts of some Victorian era factory overlord. And not always. I think youre confusing happy with healthy. Happy workers are productive workers. The two terms probably used to by synonimous back in the industrial revolution days, but people want more than a clean bill of health to be happy these days.

I'm sure it's expensive, but given that we are going to be spending $466 billion dollars this year in defense (by the way, this year we're going to overspend by $400 billion, bringing the national debt up to $8.5 trillion), there must be some way to find the money to provide at least preventative health care for those 36 million people.

Now thats more like it. Less on defense and more spent closer to home.

At 2/19/07 02:33 PM, Cheekyvincent wrote: This is mainly 4 people in England but isnt the congestion charge dumb? You pay to go into central london on top of wat u originally pay. This is just another way to get money. Theres enough cameras already- bus lane cameras, spped cameras, average speed cameras (these annoy a lot), congestion charge cameras, hard shoulder cameras and lots of others. And this dumb idea of drive 1 mile and pay watever. These dumb ppoliticians can no longer use the technology we have created. And if ur and envoiromentalists saying we should drive dumb hybrid cars-

1) you cant overtake other cars- its hard to go with the traffic

2) you need to charge for 8 hours to drive 50 miles

3) you'll get laughed at

4) i swear by god that our power comes from a coal/gas/ oil power plant burning stuff. Isnt this worse, there is lots of energy lost from the power plant to us. And were just putting the pollution from the power plant somewhere else

It depends on how you look at it. If you're a bus or taxi driver that relies on getting around London quickly for your living, then its a good idea. It should help to get people out of their cars ond onto the shambolic mess that is public transport. Really, how much extra effort is involved in walking one extra street to your office rather than drive a car in so you can park at the front door. It is laziness to excesses.

Just a not on hybrid cards too. I think toure confusing them with electric cars. Hybrids still run on conventional fuels, so theres no need to "charge for 8 hours to go 50 miles". Hybrids are mainly city cars where theres not a lot of call to go fast, so theres no worry about performance. Its like when you see a guy in a done up subaru come roaring up to the lights when youre at the crossing. As soon as theyre green HES OFF!!!...To the next set of lights which are still red. Pillock.
So yeah, performance might not be the biggest issue.

Methinks this is a bullshit timetable.

9 weeks where you do the same thing every week. Yeh ok, thats what a timetable normally is, but when one of the things is a "pep rally", you can only assume people would be fed up by week 3

At 2/16/07 02:16 AM, fahrenheit wrote:

Doesnt like a bajillion people already know that Global Warming exists? ...

bajillion is 10 to the power of what exactly.

I mean come one...

Its come on.

why would they show opposing views to widely known facts that every single person believes with the exception of homosexual communists.

Oh look, resorting to insults in the first post.

Hmm. Way to sabotage your own argument

Whateven way you want to look at it, you have to admit the simpsons has run its course. They started off as the short cartoon, where homer was actually smart, and got dumber to the point of base entertainment.
Then it got filled with messages, thinly veiled or not.
And now they are trying to make it appeal more to adults, to keep competition with family guy.

Let it die... the situations are getting stupid.

Make more Futurama! Implausability is a Futurama writers best friend!

At 1/31/07 09:20 PM, Memorize wrote:

At 1/31/07 08:35 PM, Boltrig wrote:

Instead of knowing that its true and then trying to better yourself.

And I do believe America takes most of the credit for being the melting pot that it is.

If you love the melting pot then great, just that chocolatepenguin guy was implying that the influx of people was a negative to be dealt with through arrogance and belittling.

I dont like him much

At 2/2/07 02:16 PM, Altarnis wrote: boltrig, have you not thought that maybe the fact that it was established 2000 years ago means that it may not actually have any relevance on stuff happening today?
hell music comes in and out of fashion and relevance in a matter of weeks these days, laws are changed continuously - thats part of what this type of board is about!
also christians, byt trying to say that gay people cannot adopt from them are basically asking for the right to discriminate against a group of people does that sounds right?

oh yeah, and if you can point me to a specific part of the bible ( and not that crappy new english version cos there is shitloads of interpretation in there) which actually states that a man and a woman have to be part of matrimony?
I aint found it yet meself.
and on the subject of interpretation you realise that it's been interpreted at least 100 times as it changed languages. hell chinese whispers fucks up after passing round 10 people so how can you count on it's validity anyway.

peace out.

As this is your only post, welcome to the forums. Translation of the bible aside, its what the church believes and practices now thats important. And anyway, the church has been using the English translation for more years than gays have been allowed freedom.
Yes music comes and goes but religion is not a fad. Laws come and go (well not really go but y'know) but the fundamental laws that Christians are supposed to live by were laid down centuries ago.
gays demanding to be allowed to adopt (IMPORTANT BIT--- >) through CHRISTIAN AGENCIES are asking to be allowed to discriminate against a group of people because of their religion.
I dont see being gay as relevant. Theres no procreation involved, so on a biological level it serves no purpose. Inflammitory statement, yes, but its being said about the Christians a lot...

Putting it in over simplistic terms you get thus:
Either discriminate against gays or discriminate against the church. And the church was here first!

Just one other thing

At 1/27/07 01:24 AM, chocolate-penguin wrote:

Also, the funny thing is that most of us DON'T GIVE A SHIT AT ALL what you think about us, and yet you continue to bitch as millions more of you trip over eachother trying to jump our borders.

That not caring is again, the arrogance. Thinking that everything and everyone is beneath you. Your 14, theres not a lot below you. Not that Im slandering all 14 year olds, just this generalising asshat.
NEWSFLASH FOR THE INCREDIBLY SLOW
All so called 1st world countries have problems with illegal immigration, not just the states. So before you go on about "all you people tripping over each other to get into the states" think for a moment. Write out what you want to say in a first draft. Press and hold delete, then turn your computer off and go get a clue. I think theres a special on at Wal mart.

And I think you do care. If I was to walk up to you in the street (ignoring the fact id slap you square in the chops for belittleing Scotland in general and Sean Connery in particular) and calld you an asshole, you'd cry. Instead of knowing that its true and then trying to better yourself.

At 1/31/07 07:53 PM, chocolate-penguin wrote:
For example, penicillin proably still could have been made, but it wouldn't have done much because it could not have been mass produced in factories without electricity. Sean Conneries films couldn't have been made without electricity. Anesthetics couldn't have been mass distributed.

So no, you shut up.

Penicilin is mould. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to let bread go mouldy. If Flemming refined it into penicilin, then the local pyhsician would have been able to, given instructions. So mass distribution is not needed. Whats your view anyway? That it all comes out of one central factory somewhere?

The Sean Connery thing is a joke, get a fucking sense of humour. Connery wasnt invented by a Scotsman. Although he is quite a gift to the world.

Anasthetics are not all produced in one fucking factory. Small scale production!

And my main point:

It was still a Scot that invented all these things, you belittling cock!

FYI, I never told you to shut up, I told you to count it. Apparently youre to dense to do that right.

I have to say its bull the way white people are going around on titoes and whirpering nervously "is it black or african - american"
Anything is an insult in a certain tone of voice. If youre attitude is non-racist, then fuck the PC brigade.

At 1/31/07 05:53 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: hahaha what a bunch of asnine If it wasnt for us Europe would have been under nazi control for a while and cause a lot more trouble if america didnt interfere all of europe would have been fucked because France was fighting for the same land as the first war. and Britan kept the nazis out for a while but they couldn't do it forever could they?

plus if america didnt interfere the UN would not be established.

Can you qualify this? Have you run intricate computer simulations to find out how long Britain could have held out againt the nazis? Were an island. The only concieveable problem would have been supplies of food. Were an island - easy to defend.

Anyway, Im getting sidetracked. All I can say is that the above post from this dante person serves only as a great highlight to the topic title. You did not fight in WW2. Times change. Cause the US was so great for coming to the rescue then, doesnt mean its still the dogs bollocks today!

At 1/29/07 11:22 PM, Dealy-rizazamatizazz wrote: Communism is a funny thing, it never works out, look at Russia, they're on the verge of total collapse, they fight each other, they're only exports are Vodka and women, it's sad. China's getting better because the Chinese have seen what we have and want a taste.

Communism is great in principal, but its counter to human nature. Basically, the guy who works his arse off to become a top class heart surgeon, can expect the same amount of benefit as the guy who sweeps the streets. Both vital jobs, but whats to stop the heart surgeon saying "sod it then, Im going to go push a brush about for a living. Doesnt mean any less pay, but it means less stress, less long hours and whatnot"

Those that do more expect more.

Its easier this side of the pond. Calling a black guy african american would be just stupid. Its not such a big deal to use black over here. Guess noone carees as much.

Chalk one up for apathy

At 1/31/07 07:21 PM, Harry-Feltersnach wrote: isnt he that guy that was on that show that one time

Why yes I believe he is