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Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted August 30th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/30/04 03:06 PM, Tal-con wrote: In all fairness BeFell, you didn't exactly pick the best site to show you're a Bush supporter. There's so many anti-bush flashes it's not even funny.

So there are a lot of stupid people? They're not all anti Bush:

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=189866

I really really like this one.

Response to: To NG liberals: Posted August 30th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/30/04 02:35 PM, Tal-con wrote: To BeFell, if you have been ACTUALLY watching John Kerry, he's been just talking about vietnam.
And concerning the misquote, get over yourself. I didn't misquote shit. BOTH sides are guilty of slander, you just don't want to admit it.

Hmm... see what ommisions do?

Yes both sides are guilty so why is the stuff the right does the only thing we discuss.

Response to: To NG liberals: Posted August 30th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/30/04 02:27 PM, GOOIE wrote: plus, you can stream it from their website, www.airamericaraio.com via realplayer.

Hmm... 24 stations very impressive. Now how about my good friend rush:

, the Radio Show, reaching 20 million listeners a week on 616 stations

http://www.keepmedia.com/pubs/...4295?extID=10032&oliID=213

Oh my, and he's on satilite too. Guess what he, also streams.

Response to: To NG liberals: Posted August 30th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/30/04 02:08 PM, GOOIE wrote:
At 8/30/04 02:00 PM, BeFell wrote: Kerry has been focusing on nothing but Vietnam for the last two weeks
Well, it's hard for him to not talk about it when Republicans attack him for it. Maybe, if your head won't unspin too much, listen to Air America. They have a lot of updates with Kerry and such.

There's an excellant way to get rid of biases. Besides that only airs in like seven cities it's kinda pathetic really.

and Bush hasn't said anything about it except to denounce the 527 ads.
So he officially did, eh? Took his sweat ass time. The next step is to stop them from running it.

He denounced all 527s last week, the people running them have free speech.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted August 30th, 2004 in Politics

I've noticed something odd, whenever I go to general people look at my pro Bush sig and profile and think I am satirizing republicans. Is it all a bit much?

Response to: To NG liberals: Posted August 30th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/29/04 08:42 PM, Tal-con wrote:
At 8/28/04 11:29 PM, BeFell wrote: .

John Kerry was a part of a group that at one time kicked around the idea of assasinating pro Vietnam senators.
Prove it.

Hmm... lets take another look at that quote with it not all cut up to represent something it isn't:

At 8/28/04 11:29 PM, BeFell wrote: John Kerry was a part of a group that at one time kicked around the idea of assasinating pro Vietnam senators. As the story goes John Kerry didn't support them and left the Group. How about that not even Kerry is THAT stupid.

Well how about that I said Kerry didn't support that idea and left the group as his campain has stated.

And there's a difference between kicking around the idea of and ACTUALLY supporting the assasins. I just hope you both sides, both Democrat and Republican can stop slandering each other with false claims and talk about the real issues, not if one man's purple heart is valid or not.

Hmm... slandering would that include intentionally misquoting somebody. If you do it again I will hunt you down and stick my foot up your ass.

Do you really think America's common man cares about Kerry's war record? We want our economy back to the way it used to be, so START focusing on the problem !!

Kerry has been focusing on nothing but Vietnam for the last two weeks and Bush hasn't said anything about it except to denounce the 527 ads.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted August 30th, 2004 in Politics

The Walrus has redeemed himself for the Bush episode. Shrike you're getting bumped down on my favorite artists list.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/189866

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted August 30th, 2004 in Politics

Jeez no wonder you guys hate conservatives. But there are plenty of liberals who act that way too.=P

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/29/04 06:10 PM, TheShrike wrote:
At 8/29/04 06:01 PM, BeFell wrote: I don't have any friends=(
I'll be your friend. I love picking up young right-wing boys in chats and BBSs. You have such incredible sexual ferocity.

Hmm...

*backs away slowly*

And yes, that first part was a joke, BeFell.

Which part?

OMG POST NUMBER 1,000

At last I am not a n00b anymore, yeah that's what it takes bitches.

and I did it all without spamming... mostly ; )

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/29/04 05:58 PM, TheShrike wrote: I'm giving mine to friends.

There's a difference.
=D

I don't have any friends=(

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/29/04 05:48 PM, TheShrike wrote: So please stop reenforcing the stereotypes, chap. Some americans are rather deft with geography.
Thank you,
_TheShrike

Um... Okay.

I was just wondering around general for the hell of it and I came accross this:

http://www.gmailswap.com/list/list.php?f=1

and you guys were giving them away.

Oh yeah I got invites today and in the interest of repaying the person who gave me mine I am offering them to any reg who doesn't have one yet if such a thing exists. E-mail or AIM.

Response to: Me r want g-mail invite Posted August 29th, 2004 in General

At 8/29/04 05:44 PM, Nightbird wrote: all u gotta do is register then post a request and what u will give in return for a gmail account. now this could be anything a pic, your ng account, maybe even your friendship :P , but im tellling u this cause it works and i feel bad for the people who doesnt have it :P

Holy shit I am sitting on gold. I still have five of the darn things and I was having trouble finding people to give them too. Okay who wants to deal?

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/29/04 05:36 PM, TheShrike wrote: Mississippi spat me out, too. There are many more libs in MS than you'd believe. But mostly on the coast.

Mississippi has a coast? Wow I need to look at a map sometime.

Response to: Me r want g-mail invite Posted August 29th, 2004 in General

I have G Mail invites but I don't really know any of you and if I did I'm sure I wouldn't like you.=P

Response to: The Tide of Opinion Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/29/04 04:35 PM, NotYouZ wrote: I'm suprised Skunk isn't over there with them.

He is that's why he hasn't been posting for the last couple of days, his away message says he'll be back today. If he's not in jail=P

Response to: The Tide of Opinion Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

I saw on the news that they have already started trying to tip over cars and start fires. The convention hasn't even started yet.

Response to: Abortion Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

Everything I have to say about abortion.

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=126897&page=1

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/29/04 02:39 PM, Spookshow wrote: Has anyone seen Gunter45, Kirbyman or Metal-Hed69 lately?

Who the hell are they?

Response to: US Intelligence Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/29/04 12:37 PM, antiklaus wrote:
It is not out of line for me to ask for resonable sources to prove the statements you made were true.
Not if you are going to ignore them.

I didn't ignore them I accepted them, what did you want a good job and here's a sticker. God damn you're a cry baby


If you can't handle that you have no business engaging in debate.
Take a pound of "Not if you are going to ignore them..." then attatch it to what you just said. If you are going to ignore my sources - even AFTER I prove them to you, then you got no business in debate.

Once you provided acceptable sources I moved on to atacking your stupid ass reasoning.
You show a complete lack of reasoning. You resort to ad hominem attacks - you lose.

Okay you don't understand what the purpose of the FBI is.
The FBI told me so - in order or priority - from www.fbi.gov

1) Protecting the U.S. from terrorist attacks

2) from foreign intelligence operations

Hmm... After the 9/11 report blasts them they embelish their intellegence duties a little. They still have to enforce federal law it is the reason it was created.


Those are intel jobs. If you cannot get that through your thick skull - then STFU.

Oh, and just to make this razor sharp CLEAR to you...

"While we remain committed to our other important national security and law enforcement responsibilities

Razor sharp clear they have to everything and you want to cut them.


INTEL - I do believe the term is PWNED.

They do that on top of law enforcement because gathering intel on people who might break the law is a part of law enforcement.

It happened in Houston Texas...
Irrelevent
Not to the bar owner or the cop.

It is the duty of the FBI to enforce the law.
Once again, the POLICE enforce the Law. They are even found under law enforcement.

A police officer does not enforce federal law haven't you ever seen a movie where the police and FBI argue about jurisdiction.

Once again you are making a wild claim and I would like to see a legetamite source before I bother arguing against it.
I could show you videos and you'd say irrelevant. You don't want to debate. You want to resort to ad hominem attacks because you have lost this debate. I'm not going to link a site you will dismiss if you cannot debunk it. It's time for you to put up or SFTU - I have yet to see you cite a damned thing.

I didn't dismiss everything, if I did why would I have started aruing about the conclusions you drew from them. Your other sources about somebody messing up and people getting killed were obviously unique situations that are not the norm and therefore irrelevent.

Once again their job is to enforce federal law, the copyright laws are federal law.
They have a #1 priority and #2 priority of intel tasks. Does it seem like to much to ask them to focus on that job instead of trying to do 4000? If you need more policing, hire more police - if the police need investigations, hire more detectives. Duh?

The police cannot move accross state lines and inforce federal law you should reall look into this stuff.

Well then why don't you want those laws to be enforced.
Local jurisdicitons have all the power they need without adding a layer of bureacracy to it.

What if they step out of state lines then what?

Law enforcement - specifically the police have every right to enforce the law. But INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES should not be.
The FBI is a law enforcement agency NOT an intelligence agency.
http://www.intelligence.gov/1-members_fbi.shtml

Intellegence is a part of law enforcement it is not the reason the agency exists.

But no, you would have them gutted so they can focus on "important things" and put our nation at greater risk.
How is making the Federal Bureau of INTELLIGENCE focus on INTELLIGENCE gutting them... it is steering them back the way they are supposed to be going. That puts us all at LESS risk.
At last we see why you are being so stupid about this. Try Federal Bureau of (you'll love this) INVESTIGATION.
http://www.intelligence.gov/1-members_fbi.shtml
actually I was baiting you... so you would make a big issue of this so i could zing right bakc with this definition

Wow you make an obviously idiotic claim then try to turn it around and say you were baiting me, very clever.

investigation

\In*ves`ti*ga"tion\, n. [L. investigatio: cf. F. investigation.] The act of investigating; the process of inquiring into or following up; research; study; inquiry, esp. patient or thorough inquiry or examination. The process of gathering intelligence.

Did you clear yourself up now?

Hmm... sounds like a word I would use to describe police work.

Investigation is NOT policing- it is not ENFORCEMENT - it is not PROTECTING the LAW

In england don't they call their detective investigator.

Investigation is gathering INTELLIGENCE.

To put criminals behind bars.

You proved my point - debate OVER.

Are you sure I don't think you answered all of my points.

Don't know don't care.
Chant your mantra. Because when it comes to INTELLIGENCE you really DON'T know. And you know what? I can see now why you don't care. Ignorance must be BLISS.

Um that was about you downloading music. You are trying to convince me that the agency that was created to enforce federal law has more important responsibilities. Have you ever heard of the FBI most wanted list those are usually doemestic criminals not terrorists.

Next subject...

Giving up?

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/29/04 12:48 PM, FatherVenom wrote:
At 8/29/04 12:21 PM, EvilGovernmentAgents wrote: Just give it some time, and relax, and take nothing seriously in this thread.
Something tells me that's not his plan.

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=167474

By the way, I love your quote.

Damn that's not good. Do you suppose EGA being rude is what pushed him over the edge?

Damn it Staff it was just a joke because I knew a few of you lived in Mass. This is just like when everybody wanted to politicize the damn geography thing.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/29/04 05:39 AM, stafffighter wrote: I get it. Because the state leaders recognized the basic human rights of gay people we must all like to take it in the ass. How very cool and enlightened of you you little god monkey

Actually that didn't even occur to me until after I posted. I was actually going on the fact that half the regs are Massachusets liberals. The other thing was just a bonus.=)

Response to: Why Vote Nadar? Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

I would like to encourage all Bush hating liberals to vote for Nader.=)

Response to: Democrats! Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/29/04 02:15 AM, theburningliberal wrote:
At 8/29/04 01:21 AM, BeFell wrote: Not true he reffered to it as that one indicating the one a reporter was asking him about so there.=P
Link please?

Certainly my politically misguided friend. The good peopl of CNN even provided a transcript within the story.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/23/swift.boat/index.html

Response to: US Intelligence Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/29/04 04:32 AM, antiklaus wrote: You still ignore the fact that YOU challenged me to prove my statements - as if I were lying to you - and as if what I said being true would make a difference in how valid you considered my statement.

Well... I proved EXACTLY what I said I would.

It is not out of line for me to ask for resonable sources to prove the statements you made were true. If you can't handle that you have no business engaging in debate. Once you provided acceptable sources I moved on to atacking your stupid ass reasoning.

Well genius they are still going to have to enforce the law on top of protecting us from terrorists.
It is the role of POLICEMEN to enforce the law. Why do you need a FBI agent to do it too? Do you realize with all the agencies out there, all acting on their own behlaf, that sting operations often catch each other - and indeed that an agent of one agency may even kill or shoot a police officer?

Okay you don't understand what the purpose of the FBI is. You see the United States has a federal form of government in which states have rights and some states have laws that are different then other states. So policeman are used to enforce state law for their particular states and not others. There is also federal law that applies to every state that FBI agents enforce. They are the policemen of federal law NOT an intelegence organization.

It happened in Houston Texas...

Irrelevent

As you have pointed out their are powerful interests that won't let them slide on their duties of protecting copy right laws
It is the duty of the COURTS to protect and intepret the LAWS. The FBI is WAY overstepping their bounds. As much as I am loathe to say this, I have a lawyer as a personal friend. He is very vocal about his opposition to the FBI trying to 'protect' the law.

It is the duty of the FBI to enforce the law. They don't interpet they enforce and bring people to justice where the courts can do all the interpetting they want. You might explain this to your lawyer friend before he embarasses himself.

and and checking out potential child molestors
The FBI was handed a huge list of child molesters...

Once again you are making a wild claim and I would like to see a legetamite source before I bother arguing against it.

so guess which area they would cut.
I would hope the frivolous crap - like copyright enforcement...

Once again their job is to enforce federal law, the copyright laws are federal law.

Just because you don't agree with the laws they are enforcing
When did I say I didn't agree with the laws? I think most laws are pretty good. Especially the ones that protect children.

Well then why don't you want those laws to be enforced. Child pornography is transfered over the internet thus nation wide so the police are helpless to stop them because of jurisdiction issues. If only the federal government had a policeforce.

doesn't make them any less valid
I never said the laws were not valid. read again.

How about we read through this and see whether it is you or I that has trouble understanding things.

and any less deserving of the attention of law enforcement agents.
Law enforcement - specifically the police have every right to enforce the law. But INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES should not be.

The FBI is a law enforcement agency NOT an intelligence agency.

But no, you would have them gutted so they can focus on "important things" and put our nation at greater risk.
How is making the Federal Bureau of INTELLIGENCE focus on INTELLIGENCE gutting them... it is steering them back the way they are supposed to be going. That puts us all at LESS risk.

At last we see why you are being so stupid about this. Try Federal Bureau of (you'll love this) INVESTIGATION. Wow if I were you I would be to embarrassed to respond to this, I mean my God that's a big fuking detail. Heres the Federal Bureau of Investigation's website if you would like to get an idea of what they are actually supposed to do.

http://www.fbi.gov/

You are fucking pathetic quit looking at naked six year olds
When you resort to ad hominem attacks you completely prove your inability to make a point - and any observer will say - you have lost the argument.

Well maybe they should read this post.

and stealing music
I write music you fool. (If you don't believe me check out the song 'Life Sentence' on NG.) Why would I steal the intellectual property of my fellow artists?

Don't know don't care, still think you do.

and they'll leave you alone.
Like they 'left alone' that innocent guy they just happened to gun down 11 times in the back, when they raided his house?
http://talkleft.com/new_archives/003608.html

Irrelevent

Now you have some research to do I hope the Federal Bureau of "Intelegence" doesn't come raid your home or anything before you can read this... Oh wait a minute I guess that isn't possible.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/29/04 02:43 AM, Super_Sloth wrote: I live in CA and finding someone who is conservative is like finding a needle in a haystack (old, yeah, I know).

Finding a conservative on Newgrounds is like finding a straight man in San Francisco. Or Massachusets=P

Response to: Democrats! Posted August 29th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/28/04 11:47 PM, theburningliberal wrote: Bush did condemn all 527 activity, although he came short of condemning SBVFT and their ads specifically.

Not true he reffered to it as that one indicating the one a reporter was asking him about so there.=P

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted August 28th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/28/04 10:07 PM, NotYouZ wrote:
At 8/28/04 10:06 PM, stafffighter wrote: You might fly into someone who deserves to live, unless you crash into befell
Hey man, BeFell's cool.

Indeed I am. Don't mind Staff he is just not a very happy person. (I suspect a small penis). ; )

He's the only conservative that seems to know what he's talking about.

I hope that isn't true. I will admit though some of my fellow conservatives who post on NG do sometimes display more passion than brains. Oh well one out of three aint bad. You liberals have have a worse ratio you know, theres just more of you here.

Shrike did you see my post about every mod on my buddy list I am doing my part to protect the environment.

*gets into SUV and speeds away*

Response to: pole topic: Bush Posted August 28th, 2004 in Politics

Um, you mispelled poll.

Response to: To NG liberals: Posted August 28th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/28/04 09:58 PM, Tal-con wrote:
At 8/28/04 03:38 PM, BeFell wrote:
At 8/28/04 01:07 AM, theburningliberal wrote: TS seems to think John Kerry supported the assassination attempts of major senators in the early 1970's.
What's the problem? He seems smart.
BeFell, i hope you're kidding because i don't think even a Bush supporter could be THAT stupid.

John Kerry was a part of a group that at one time kicked around the idea of assasinating pro Vietnam senators. As the story goes John Kerry didn't support them and left the Group. How about that not even Kerry is THAT stupid.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted August 28th, 2004 in Politics

At 8/28/04 06:52 PM, I7-I2-E-I7-I7 wrote: way to relax dude! like toke on this stuff and chill out.. *pass's da bong*

What's that funny smell? Wait we covered this at Mormon school... oh yeah no thank you I'm a pussy... wait that's not it.