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At 11/7/13 10:21 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: Innocent, non-white teenagers? No. America has never given a fuck.

You're ridiculous. America's done some fucked up racist shit, don't get me wrong, but you are ridiculous. I hate how you trendy leftier-than-thou cunts have to hyperbolise real issues like this and stop any meaningful discussion happening. The amount of racism right now is fucked up and stupid, but you and the way you discuss this shit bring nothing to the table.

Please, go back to Tumblr.

At 11/7/13 10:09 PM, AxTekk wrote: 1st source gives zero examples in sutra or illustrations of sculptures. That citation is literally just someone who has no idea of Hinduism.

Some more clarification on that - the book being cited isn't primarily about Hinduism at all. It's a sourceless claim made in passing that is little more than hear-say, which is fine because that isn't really what the book's about.

Hinduism gets this a lot, especially on sexuality. A lot of Westerners have this image of anything east of the Mediterranean and south of the Caucasus as being some super exotic sexually liberated touchy-feely culture, and have often misrepresented works from these areas to ignorant Western audiences in order to put across their own agenda. The Karma Sutra was originally said to be a religious work lol, seriously take any Western interpretation of Hindu views on sexuality with a mighty big ol' pinch of salt.

At 11/7/13 09:55 PM, ImmoralLibertarian wrote: Considering how long Abrahamism has been around I don't think you can easily separate it from tradition. But if you want to talk about how homosexuality was treated in pre-Christian Europe perhaps you should think about ancient Greece, it was abound there. They were all bumming each other. Even in the more conservative ancient Rome homosexuality was tolerated. [...]

That's actually very interesting, although I dare say it doesn't cover why American Christians are so much more homophobic than American Jews if Abrahamic tradition is the main culprit.

Don't know where you got that information from, but you're dead wrong.

From reading Hindu scripture and hanging out with Hindus, mainly lol

"Hindu views of homosexuality and, in general, LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender) issues, are diverse and different Hindu groups have distinct views. Homosexuality is regarded as one of the possible expressions of human desire. Although some Hindu dharmic texts contain injunctions against homosexuality, a number of Hindu mythic stories have portrayed homosexual experience as natural and joyful.[1] There are several Hindu temples which have carvings that depict both men and women engaging in homosexual sex.[2] Same-sex relations and gender variance have been represented within Hinduism from Vedic times through to the present day, in rituals, law books, religious or so-called mythical narratives, commentaries, paintings, and sculpture. The extent to which these representations embrace or reject homosexuality has been disputed within the religion as well as outside of it. In 2009, The United Kingdom Hindu Council issued a statement that 'Hinduism does not condemn homosexuality', subsequent to the decision of the Delhi High Court to legalise homosexuality in India.[3]"

From the Wikipedia page on "LGBT topics and Hinduism".

And now I'm going to show you why you shouldn't just quote wikipedia verbatim.

1st source gives zero examples in sutra or illustrations of sculptures. That citation is literally just someone who has no idea of Hinduism.

2nd source is a textbook for children, the first sentence of which in the relevant section is "there is nothing in the Hindu scriptures about homosexuality".

3rd source actually illustrates my point.

Check your sources, Hindus didn't give a shit about homosexuality until colonial times and if they did, they did so individually and certainly without basis in scripture.

[...] But is Christianity taking this position and running with it an excuse for it spewing out misogynistic beliefs in the modern world?

You make Christianity sound like some kind of super-villain. Christianity isn't really a force for misogyny in the world at all, and you'll find many Christian feminists and many Christian groups promoting women's rights in third world countries (ie: Christian Aid).

I'm willing to change my opinion on this however. The moment when people stop using the bible as an excuse to keep down [insert persecuted minority here] is the moment I shut the fuck up and never say a bad word against it.

Do you think that day will come any time soon?

Is that the day no Christian at all uses his/ her religion as an excuse to oppress others or the day that Christianity actually causes someone to oppress someone else? Whether or not you're a rational human being or an angsty prick depends heavily on your answer.

At 11/7/13 09:17 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: I give Janet Mock, Amy Tan, Junot Diaz, and Alec Baldwin very much credence, and so do most people.

1) I have no idea how you're going to claim these people are all racists.
2) Even if they are, how exactly is a racist going to be objective about racism?

At 11/7/13 08:03 PM, naronic wrote: Reading through this all you can find some interesting information, such as the fact that it took 4 days for this information to be investigated by authorities. Wherein her body had to be found on a 50 year old man's porch. And the gun in question was a shotgun wounding her in the head

Oh my fuck that's messed up. Didn't the lives of innocent teenagers used to mean something?

At 11/7/13 09:25 PM, metroid25 wrote: Honestly bro, thanks. This is good advice and I will seriously keep this in mind. I have tried so many things and all I want is to be successful in life. You're fucking rad man.

No probs at all homeslice, you'll be alright, you just might have to push yourself pretty hard. It'll only make you stronger though, and having the strength to be happy really is the most important thing in life.

At 11/7/13 08:37 PM, metroid25 wrote: Hey guys, I've been depressed for about a year and a half now. I got into drugs a while back, needed to be high to be happy. I finally stopped doing that stuff and after a while I was a lot happier...

I used to be pretty bad, so please understand that everything I'ma say I say with sympathy and understanding.

You seem to have a lot of outside locutions bro, try and realise that only you are capable of doing your shit, only you are capable of bringing yourself happiness. Every time you let yourself spiral into negativity and self abuse you are being weak. To get out of depression is tougher than a lot of people ever have to find out, but you have to do it, and do it now. Don't let yourself think weak thoughts. Clear your head whenever you start to spiral. When you can't find joy where you used to, try and sleep properly then do things that will give you self worth (learning more computer programming etc.).

Above all: Sleep properly. Minimum nine hours a day. Good sleep.

Don't drink, although weed is fine. Seriously, don't even worry about it. Try not to do it more than once a week to keep your tolerance low, and only smoke with friends, but if anything it helped me get over depression (gave me some great carefree times with my friends and made me feel more worthy, yano).

Make compulsive acts that you follow through with. Follow through with everything you decide is in your greatest interest. How well you follow through with these compulsive acts will determine how well you will be able to self realise - get good at this and you will be hella successful in life. Even just getting better will stop you feeling helpless.

Open up to people you love and care about. Try and be understanding of their emotions and form genuine bonds.

Play old video games.

Be happy and be the reason you're happy.

At 11/7/13 08:40 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: Are you...Implying that one can't be both racist and and want racial equality?

I'd suggest that if you're talking about race equality with a racist, while they might be perfectly sincere, you shouldn't lend their views much credence.

Reason No. 5026 not to rely on the police to solve your problems.

At 11/7/13 06:03 PM, T3XT wrote: Has anyone else here decided on an open relationship?

I have exactly that going on right now lol I don't tell her shit I do with others she doesn't tell me shit. While I care for her deeply I'm not really all that attached to her and dgaf how she gets her kicks. Works perfectly since I'm just out of a long term relationship and still trying to make the most of having zero responsibility.

Funny thing though, I couldn't have done the open relationship stuff with my ex. Would have broken my heart. Now I'm sleeping with other girls and she still sleeps with me I guess that's exactly what's happened though.

So yeah, I guess that I'm actually in two open relationships. Just trying to enjoy it while it lasts lol

Best part, is my fuckbud lives upstairs from me and has a wifi router, meaning I enjoy free wifi for my sexual services on some next juggalo shit. FUCK BITCHES GET WIFI

At 11/6/13 04:19 AM, Trampzy wrote: Also, a kid in my town blew off 2 1/2 of his fingers doing exactly this.

I'm interested, what does 2 1/2 fingers count for?

Do two half fingers add up to a whole finger?

Did he lose two fingers and half a finger, five half fingers, or maybe the top quarter from all of his fingers?

So many questions....

That's fucked up. I doubt we know the whole story yet though.

At 11/4/13 11:39 PM, 420yoloer wrote: What can I do, to get back at my friend and start seeing the girl again?

Why are you even fucking with either of them? Getting hung up will make you look thirsty af, go get a new fuckbud and a new friend. Try and make better choices this time.

At 11/7/13 05:55 PM, StrapOnFetus wrote: Well, then again. That is just your opinion and not that of, in the (general sense)

Yeah true, just like how it's just your opinion that I'm wrong. I just think you could be more cherishing and understanding is all, plus I think people see things through the perspective of race or sexual orientation way too often. I find it kinda funny how race is the most ill-defined concept we have and yet we pay it the most attention.

OT: Them soft African lips doe

At 11/7/13 05:30 PM, Entice wrote: How does liking one trait in particular (her blackness, for lack of a better word) detract from liking her as a person?

I just think it's interesting how we've had like three paragraphs about her blackness and jack shit about her as a person. No, actually, we have had a lot about her personality it's just all been attributed to her being black. I mean, tell me you don't imagine this guy seeing everything his gf does and being like "ZOMG black people like that?!?" rather than just appreciating her as an individual.

Idk though Zara always joked about my whiteness and shit, I'm not on some next PC tip. Just saying I find it immature and superficial.

At 11/7/13 04:39 PM, StrapOnFetus wrote: So we both consented and made a sex tape last night. Seeing as were grown adults. Why not? Yes, it is my opinion that black women are much much better than white women.

Honest question - why do you feel the need to tell everyone? To me it just suggests that you see her more as a black woman than you do as herself.

At 11/7/13 03:17 PM, ImmoralLibertarian wrote: I've already explained this multiple times. Once more? Religion, particularly the Abrahamic religions, are chock full of homophobia and lots of other nasty shit. This nasty shit helps reinforce the beliefs of nasty people. And this is helped by all those lovely Christians who wouldn't hurt a fly by them holding up Christianity as the pinnacle or morals.

I think you're falsely attributing attitudes derived from tradition as being derived from religion. Huge difference. Take away a homophobic Christians faith, they're unlikely to suddenly become a beacon of tolerance and unconditional acceptance. I mean, a lot of Southern racists used to claim their hatred had a basis in Genesis, but as far as I was aware we all acknowledge just how irrelevant Christianity actually was to such attitudes.

I'm interested which other religions besides the Abrahamic ones you think are homophobic. The next biggest religion would be Hinduism, and despite a whooooole bunch of Hindu homophobes, Hinduism doesn't even mention homosexuality as existing.

Bad example. Because Christianity is quite clear on adultery (despite the fact it attributes much harsher punishments on females - but what else would one expect from a hugely misogynistic faith system?).

Seems unfair to blame misogyny on Christianity in that regard - women have always been punished more harshly for adultery than men (before we became civilised enough for egalitarianism at least). That much is just because humans naturally default to polygeny. The bible's just reflecting natural human morality in that regard. It is more that Jesus was waaay ahead of his time by saying to treat men and women equally in this regard and less that the older Jewish laws were just lagging behind.

If anything, I'd say the fact that Christians hold modern beliefs in this regard is evidence that they do not take their morals from their religion as you seem to be claiming.

The utilitarian in me digs the shit outta this, but I'm a little too idealistic all in all I think. I mean, we can't help the parents we're born to, you and I could just have easily been the grand children of lunatics. To purposefully punish someone for a crime they didn't commit shouldn't be how we do things imho

If America is the most hated country on the world it's undeserved. I think North Korea (deservedly) and Israel (perhaps less deservedly) are more hated than the USA though.

Erryone know you can talk shit about America, so they do. Ain't nobody gon' do shit tho'

At 11/7/13 03:17 PM, DingoWalleyStudio wrote: Sorry, But I'm unable to pay for Lyrics. I don't have a lot of money at this time. Thanks for the offer though.

I'd be very up for penning you some lyrics bro. Do you have a sample of the music you'd like words set to?

At 11/7/13 08:43 AM, Lagerkapo wrote: So basically, TLDR, the most advanced kind of Buddhism actually uses the sensate, visceral and pleasurable as a way of evolving spiritually.

More like the ones that survived. I mean, since Ashoka, the biggest Darwinian advantage of modern day Buddhism is how well it blends with other ways of thought. Zen Buddhism, Tibetan Buddhism, Sri Lankan Buddhism, Chinese Buddhism... all have mixed with the local philosophies and folklore. Interesting since Gautama was most likely just a proto-Hindu who was extra keen on ahimsa...

At 11/6/13 10:51 PM, Chdonga wrote: I'd prefer to go half way with a nice mulatto girl.

Heads up: they tend to prefer the term "mixed race" lol

At 11/6/13 10:00 PM, StrapOnFetus wrote: Your thoughts?

Yeah, my experiences with black women have been completely different... Black women are just as varied as white women, in exactly the same ways as white women. Personality wise, race really ain't a thing.

HOWEVER goddamn African asses. And them soft lips. Hell, I even have a thing for African hair. I mean sheeeeit...

Plus, Afro- Caribbean women tend to be better at dancing than white women and generally listen to better music imho. Oh, and better at cooking. I mean, I really don't feel like there's any contest.

At 11/6/13 05:33 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: Yes, you being white means you are automatically an oppressor. Just like by being men we are all oppressors. Just like being in a 1st world country that is bombing and invading 3rd world countries we are all oppressors. It's a fucked up reality. Maybe you should wake the fuck up instead of pretending it doesn't exist.

See this is where I think I disagree with you. If you went back to any of the old African kingdoms you could've made the same arguments. You know the Gold Coast (where most the slaves sent to America came from) was like a third slaves? Hell, going back to West Africa you hear soooo much fucking racism to other tribes, you may as well argue that any descendants of the Akhan are also oppressors having benefitted from the subjugation of other peoples.

The Maori of New Zealand would all be oppressors by virtue of having gotten rid of their rivals by genocide, giving their descendants more resources to inherit. Every person who benefitted from anyone in any previous generation's stupid misdeads is an oppressor by your logic. There is no distinction made based on a person's own actions, we are all fated to be oppressors.

Which is fine if you believe it, but renders the moniker "oppressor" worthless and lets the real oppressors off the hook.

Man, this trendy leftist cultural-relativist nihilism really pisses me off.

At 10/31/13 01:03 PM, Insanctuary wrote: A sauntering plant; a sycophant, to an opulent degree; we the gallery of a fluorescent sea, garnished by our faculties, taken into the fray, with an odyssey of conveyance.

Just to say so: These images come clothed in fluency but aren't of its fabric. To evidence fluency with detached clauses is to feign nonchalance by sulking. And, withal, fluency's raison d'être is to clearly convey meaning in a manner coherent - I might say that, within the form-content dichotomy's paradigm, you seem pretty content with pretty form without forming content.

Seems a kind of pseudish act; to smith meaning for a linguistic schema rather than the other way about.

At 11/6/13 03:36 PM, Amaranthus wrote:

At 11/6/13 03:19 PM, AxTekk wrote: Yep, if you take out "marry" and replace it with "coexist".

Americans, amirite?

Lololol I think America may have peaked in the 18th Century in some regards

At 11/6/13 11:06 AM, Amaranthus wrote: "White with white, black with black, man with woman."
Is it just me or did she mean "Blacks and whites shouldn't be able to marry, n'either should man and man, or woman and woman"?

Yep, if you take out "marry" and replace it with "coexist".

At 11/4/13 08:46 PM, SexualEmo wrote: http://i.imgur.com/Sdm1vSW.gif

How is it that a gif can have so much win despite everyone being fully clothed? Fuck, man

At 11/6/13 08:49 AM, ash wrote: My bro turned 19 today so I got him some absinthe, I remember when I turned 19 I went for fishbowls.

It's funny actually, when I was 17 I flat out stopped drinking for a year and a half, so I never got myself that first legal drink on my birthday. Think my first legal drink would've been at the office Christmas party then, in which case just a Guinness (pisswater imho but if all your coworkers are Irish it still needs doing)

At 11/6/13 01:17 AM, HollowedPumkinz wrote: Ha, you sound like my Dad. And though I have no empirical data to support that statement, it certainly seems correct from what I've witnessed from Black people when they are around other black people. My father may make sweeping generalizations about plenty of groups, but when I think about it, I realize there's a kernel (however small) of truth to them.

Dude, that's essentially everyone. What, you don't think Jews, Muslims, Gypsies and Asians do the same shit? I mean, it's not even just racial, my heavily political friends do the same things, as do my hip-hop head and metalhead friends. Whenever any group sharing a common interest comes together we help each other out and bitch off err'yone else.

At 11/6/13 07:29 AM, thatkidkenji wrote: That's the privilege of being white. You are unaware of how your basic existence perpetuates oppression.

Really though? By "existing" I'm oppressing people?

My family right up until the last generation were factory workers. The people who ran the East India Company were the same people who didn't care at all how my family were starving with no healthcare in shitty slums. The same people who came up with racist theories of intelligence applied those same theories to justify the poverty of poor white people, who they believed to also be genetically inferior.

Don't get me wrong, my family were never enslaved or forced to leave their home country and there is a whole load of BS about race I won't ever have to deal with, but you make some seriously broad generalisations about white people. We aren't and never were a homogenous group and the same white people who shat on you shat on some of us as well. White people didn't only oppress white people and black people weren't only oppressed by white people. There are problems that need to be sorted out but counter-racism isn't going to help anyone.