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This motto derives from Judeo-Christian values this nation was founded upon. Bottom line is that people aren't perfect beings (unlike god) because they're mortal and limited. Therefore people can't possibly come up with the perfect governmental system nor institutes because people can be corrupted. So if you base all of your moral choices on the people's mind and will you de facto doom your nation because people become corrupt with time and even a robust governmental system that has corrupt people in the top is going to be bad in effect.
That's why we say "in godwe trust" - not in people that can be corrupted, but in a perfect being that supposedly guides this world towards it's goal.
This motto is also neutral from any specific religion. There's nothing that can even suggest it's based on Christianity.

At 3/31/13 05:53 PM, Light wrote: But you just said that marriage is what it is defined to be, so if we redefine marriage appropriately, gay marriage can exist.

Just because something isn't natural or isn't perceived to be natural doesn't mean it's wrong. This is an example of the naturalistic fallacy.

There is no such thing as "naturalistic fallacy" because there is no fallacy involved. Had you've read yourself the article you linked here you'd see that it's controversial because the 'fallacy' one supposedly says exist is false only because of the accusing party's personal opinion. That's not a real logical failure it's more of a wild accusation.

And as many others have argued in this thread, marriage isn't solely about having kids, and heterosexual couples who don't intend to have kids are still allowed to marry. Why not extend this right to homosexuals?

Because it's discrimination against children. The rights of children > the right to have children. Children deserve to have a mother and a father not just emotionally but psychologically - for their brains to develop properly. Children that were born from sperm donation and never knew their father nor had an influence of an adult man in their personal lives have various psychological issues. Same is with gay couples.

Homosexuality isn't some sort of rare "exception." It has been commonly observed in hundreds of animal species.

It is an exception because it occurs in about 10% of the individuals in a given specie. Don't try to fool me with facts about nature because I'm an engineer I probably know more than you about those things. I know that homosexuality exists in other species but it's still an exception no matter how you look at it. 90% still significantly bigger than 10%.

What about equality and fairness?

They're equal to me. Lesbians can marry men and gays can marry women. They want extra rights for themselves - of course they'll claim that legally I'll have those 'great' rights too so it's okay but it's not.

At 3/29/13 03:48 PM, Camarohusky wrote:

At 3/29/13 11:35 AM, AlexNOSAM wrote: Playing not fair in the market can only occur because of flawed regulation in the first place.

This statement is completely false. Unfair business practices happen all the time. Part of competition isn't just succeeding over your competition, it's destroying your competition. Once competition has been destroyed there is NO incentive to play fair. Understand?

No, you don't understand. There is no such thing ever as killing all possible competition. Wherever there is a place to enter the market and make more profits than your competitors people will always do so unless there is a government crippling regulation like giving monopoly to a certain company by law. You will ALWAYS have people who won't sell their business for anything and you will ALWAYS have new faces once old ones are gone so long as there isn't a special licence-based regulation that prevents new companies to enter markets.
Mark Zuckerberg always kept receiving offers to buy facebook from him while still wasn't the monster that it is today and he never sold it nor even intended to negotiate over it. You will always have people like that statistically.

At 3/30/13 10:56 AM, MattDogg wrote:

At 3/29/13 02:26 PM, AlexNOSAM wrote:

Therefore the Iranian threats are kind of a big deal there because the Israelis want to live (duh!), but in that area no one can guarantee you'd live. And so, if someone says "we're gonna wipe you off the map" - you take their word for it. Even if it means no waiting for a green light from the States.

Sources: I'm an Israeli.

The "we're gonna wipe you off the map" most probably came from MEMRI, not very reliable source. Try other sources

MEMRI translate only Arabic. When they translate some Iranian statement they translate it as Arab media networks translated it to Arabic. "Wipe off the map" is a translation made by an Iranian government owned network made to English itself. I think the original translator knew very well exactly which context was appropriate. The denials coming later certainly were just excuses and double meaning abuse that can be so easily done in middle eastern languages - even Hebrew or Arabic not necessarily Persian. They never state that clearly but you don't have to be a genius to understand exactly which country they're talking about when they say "we will destroy the Zionist regime" or "we are ready to go to war with the entity occupying Jerusalem and the holy land any day..."

At 3/30/13 11:01 AM, MattDogg wrote: BTW Alex what do you think of this huh?

Extreme left wing propaganda. I've known this site for quite a while, few in Israel know about it because it's so irrelevant and aimed at foreigners who don't live here and can be misled easily. Reading your news about Israel from there would be the same as if I'd get my news about America from The Huffington Post. We kinda have the same issue as you do with having the media, culture and academy totally dominated by our local liberals. Unfortunately for them the Israeli public is well aware of their self-hate and we don't take our media and acadmy seriously at all. We reelected Benjamin Netanyahu this January after all...

Oh god... you just had to open it with the "when I was young and stupid I took on my parents' ideas and believes but later I became educated on my own and I have my own cool and original point of view" argument. It's so lame...
Listen, just because the society tells you something is okay doesn't make it so. The society can be corrupt. So your polls worth nothing except for telling us about public opinion. That doesn't make it right, the great masses can be wrong. Don't you think when we look back at history that there were periods in which the majority of people held believes that we know to be wrong today but back then you could be executed for? That's how much I think about your polls of the sheeple's opinion.
It does make me sad though that the youth are affected so much by the liberal indoctrination running wild these days. I presume you're not very old yourself so you probably ate it yourself like a good girl and said "yummy". It's a phenomenon in the whole western world - that the mainstream media and academy are dominated by the left. Anything other than liberalism and progressivism are labeled as racism and bigotry in the academy and media.
Now, that we're over with public opinion and how "honest" and "truthful" it can be to the topic of gay "marriage". I won't make it long. The thing is what you define marriage as. IMO and other true conservatives, marriage is a contract of bond made by a man and a woman. So bottom line is - there just can't be gay marriage because it is no "marriage". Gay couples can't have children together in a natural way and nature tries to tell us that only masculine and feminine can make a family together. No matter what arguments some smartass people make around it. It's as simple as that, homosexuality is an exception in nature and there is no reason why we should redefine marriage because of it.

Well it could nuke Israeli cities if they had any nukes. As PM Netanyahu said, our purpose is not to go to war with them right away. Try diplomacy first, but as soon as intelligence tells us they've reached 90% of the enrichment they need for a bomb - then we make them have a really bad day.
Israelis can tolerate conventional rockets even falling in civilian areas. So long as they know that on the long run they will win and stay still in their land. I don't think you realize it but in the Israeli mind there is never long term future. They look ahead 5 maybe 10 years but never too far as 50 years. It's always "well there is a reasonable chance we won't exist until then so what's the point thinking about it?" Therefore the Iranian threats are kind of a big deal there because the Israelis want to live (duh!), but in that area no one can guarantee you'd live. And so, if someone says "we're gonna wipe you off the map" - you take their word for it. Even if it means no waiting for a green light from the States.
Sources: I'm an Israeli.

Well, sorry about the misunderstanding but the point you projected was really not clear. Actually I couldn't agree with you more. Republicans did just fine during the election, even democrats admit that the only reason Obama actually won is because of that hurricane.
However, after the election everything just snapped. It seems as if the whole conservative side just gone berserk from frustration and despair. Before the election the things and statements coming from them in the media and other platforms made sense but now it seems as if the conservatives finally lost it. I really don't see an upcoming recovery during this term and maybe even in the next term (which would most likely be democrat assuming things will go as they are today).

Hi, need some help here.
I just go to whatever place I go to pick up girls - usually the beach or downtown, never clubs or bars. I can open conversation without a problem. Not always sure what to do after because opening conversation is the easy part. But supposedly I do manage to get the conversation going - everything goes fine - troubles arrive when it's time for me to close. Either I ask them out then and there or at least to get the phone number. The answer is always no. And by 'always' I don't even mean 90% but 100%. Yeah, never even managed to ask a girl out because always got rejected. It's very frustrating and really hurts my motivation to try again and again, not even mentioning what it does to my confidence...
What on earth is the matter with me? How can I fix this? And how unusual/lame is it for a guy to be almost 20 and not even being out on a date from 1-5 (1 - normal. 5 - can't be more lame than that).

At 3/29/13 11:23 AM, tox wrote: Shit...

Tom responds to a noob with 2 post count and i send him countless pm's asking him for help.. And i cant even get him to say something funny or memorable...

Lame...

Noob with two posts!? Well sorry... Could've been much more have the validation thing got to work in the first place. This issue is no laughing matter there could be dozens if not hundreds of other people with frozen accounts like that. And I would not make an alt account for this because I'm not into managing more than one email box.

At 3/29/13 11:19 AM, TomFulp wrote:

At 3/29/13 10:57 AM, AlexNOSAM wrote: Fortunately, I happened to check my spam box today and found out that today I received an email for you saying "hey, we haven't seen you on newgrounds for a while. Just wanted to remind you that you signed up. Oh... And by the way - here's the validation link, we see that you didn't even validate the account." I'm happy that this is behind us though. I'm an observer in newgrounds since I was 8 (now almost 20). Nearly forgot about this site since my registration stalled.

Who is your email provider and is it web-based or are you using email software that may be doing its own filtering? The problem is that whoever powers your email is putting email from NG in your spambox. We should see about getting that resolved.

I received an email from tomfulp@newgrounds.com today with the validation link, etc... It was in my spam box (gmail), happened to check it today just by a funny coincidence. I can receive your mail just fine. Just that no matter what I did I couldn't get the validation link sent to me at all until I gave up. It's not that the email in my spam box just piled dust in there for months.

At 3/27/13 06:43 PM, MOSFET wrote:

At 3/22/13 09:56 AM, UltraHammer wrote:

At 3/21/13 07:33 PM, Camarohusky wrote: It's not that simple. Things such as location, brand loyalty, marketing, timing, and others play a HUGE role that can, and often does, easily distort the supply and demand metric

...and? Your point?

I don't speak for Camarohusky. But I think the point is that the free market doesn't mean more competition, and it doesn't mean more innovation, and it's also not fair. What does location, brand loyalty, marketing, timing have to do with increasing competition, being innovative, or being fair? More often than not, the opposite is true. All you free market fan boys present as the main reason for having a free market in the first place. It's just goes to show that in either system, you have to pay to play.

Honestly, I feel the "free market" suffers from the "no true scotsman" fallacy. It's ambiguous and takes positive sounding words for it's own that I feel are really independent from free market, like innovation, competition, and fairness. A free market is none of those things, yet it wants to be, so its more palatable. I think, it's not the free market people like yourself want but the much hyped about features.

Innovation is independent of the market, but certain innovations thrive while others fail depending on the system, certainly. Yet we had massive innovations coming from NASA and the military. But there will always be people trying to innovate, whether in a free market, or a government run operation.

There can be competition and fairness in a free market, if everyone behaves. Just like there would be a utopia if everyone acted nice and worked toward the good of others. Can rules and regulations get out of hand? Certainly. These must be identified, and loosened. But, there are some good rules and regulations that promote a fair and competitive market.

Oh please don't make me laugh... NASA and technology that comes "from" the military are government owned enterprises. It's the same as if a company would have been owned by stockholders and big investors only in this case the government or other public entity owning all of the stocks of a PRIVATE corporation. The employees there work for the exact pay and conditions they would have in other 'normal' companies, they're not state public servants. This is most that all an example of the superiority of the private enterprise - the government owning a private company that's behaving exactly as one and built as one to get that innovation the public sector can't provide.

Playing not fair in the market can only occur because of flawed regulation in the first place. Like throwing away food to keep prices high - why does this happen? Well if you really go into details you'll find out that the places it happens in are places where the local government placed food quotas to protect fat farmers that formed unions and lobbies to influence the local government to make up those quotas. I have enough of those example around just from my own country, I'm sure there are much more in America.

At 3/25/13 09:58 PM, Korriken wrote:

At 3/25/13 08:16 PM, LocoJoe wrote: stuff

thats because Tubby McChunkins has an agenda. His agenda also has nothing at all to do with telling the truth. just like everything else that comes out of his floppy jowls, it's full of stupid shit, half truths, and total lies. He has to continue this cycle of telling lies because attention is what keeps him less irrelevant than he usually is.

Exactly. The guy makes his whole career and life about this. Ridiculing the American way and it's heritage in order to promote the great and free China alongside queer couples from Europe. I suppose he has to make a statement like that every now and then just to keep his reputation in shape. If only he would have done the same with his body...

God your post is so ridiculous... You're mistaking and misleading. You didn't win the election because conservatives are - naturally - against progressivism - you only won because of entitlements you hand away to minorities just because they are minorities. The left in the States is not as nearly as dominant as it is in Europe - where it's practically the only voice heard. You give free cash to colored people just because they are colored and for that they pay you back by voting DEM in the election. As simple as that.
But here you bring totally unrelated bs as having some sort of logical connection the Romney's lose. You're bottom line is "well you see, you lost because progressivism is the only way to go. You need to move your mainstream away from conservatism and neo-liberalism closer to us because otherwise you have no chance of winning ever again." Really you don't want to know what you sound like. The right wing parties in Europe have done that already and it did nothing good to them ideologically. The European right wing long ago gave in to progressivism and now only left with strict budget policy and tough on illegal aliens as the abortions and gay marriage arenas were completely abandoned. De facto the right wing in Europe is dead as they completely nullified themselves in front of green and socialists movements in the past century.
And you want to bring THIS disgrace to America? This is insane! What's next, flashing the constitution down the toilet!?

Admins, god you need to take note that registering to this site is like subscribing to hell. I registered months ago and just could not validate my account for this whole time! I don't remember the precise details but I do remember that I could log in and do nothing further because every other action required my validation. Whenever I tried to validate the account - having the validation email sent to me - I got into a dead end.

Fortunately, I happened to check my spam box today and found out that today I received an email for you saying "hey, we haven't seen you on newgrounds for a while. Just wanted to remind you that you signed up. Oh... And by the way - here's the validation link, we see that you didn't even validate the account." I'm happy that this is behind us though. I'm an observer in newgrounds since I was 8 (now almost 20). Nearly forgot about this site since my registration stalled.