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Response to: Fuck the UN and Israel and etc Posted March 4th, 2008 in Politics

Man, Israel is 100% right, they are using the kill a fly with a nuke method. Instead of sending an infantary unit to kill the so called terrorists, which will probably get some of their soldiers killed and will save some innocent lives, they attack with cannons and order air strikes, which on the other hand saves the Israeli soldiers lives and get a whole lot of innocents killed.

Response to: Prince Harry in Afganistan Posted March 4th, 2008 in Politics

Comeon people, can it be any more obvious? Prince Harry is to be killed, why else would he be sent there? If he got killed in there, there will definetly be much more people, or countries, wanting to aid in the fight against Afganistan. The media is being used to encourage the death of the prince. When this happen, this war will be yet another war, between 2 nations, that will never end.

Response to: Fight Terrorism with Diplomacy? Posted February 11th, 2008 in Politics

At 2/9/08 04:41 PM, MickTheChampion wrote: Saying that Muslim terrorists "hate America" is far too simplistic when viewing these fellahs and their mindset.

They hate the values and norms of the entire Western Civilisation, I mean Christ, the fact that females are educated in our countries makes them sick to their stomach.

Do you really belive that? Your that stupid?

Muslim extremists hate the ones who wronged them. Jews took palestine. The americans Invaded iraq. Thats it.

Your way of thinking is why this conflict will never end.

Response to: terrorists not as bad as they seem Posted January 15th, 2008 in Politics

At 1/12/08 04:16 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:
At 1/12/08 03:42 PM, Ahmudi wrote:
Finding a way to save lives and spare land from nuclear radiations is "Ignorant" ?
I guess that how the president thought when he decided to nuke them.
So you believe the US should invade them then?

Not really, if there was no diplomatic way to solve this problem, couldnt the US use a less lethal weapon in bigger quantities? It could but this wouldnt have scared all the other countries of the world, which was the main reason for using nukes, not to save lives.

Response to: terrorists not as bad as they seem Posted January 12th, 2008 in Politics

At 1/11/08 06:43 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: "I meant something more diplomatic rather than an invasion. If the US really cared about not killing the Japanese, they would have "bribed" them to get out of the war, this ALWAYS work."

That is the most IGNORANT thing i have ever heard

Finding a way to save lives and spare land from nuclear radiations is "Ignorant" ?
I guess that how the president thought when he decided to nuke them.

and by the way... the us government DID help the japanese after WWII.

Did you guys return the people you killed from the other world? Or maybe you gave the ones who lost there land to radiation a new place to live and plant ?

Response to: terrorists not as bad as they seem Posted January 9th, 2008 in Politics

therealsylvos:
"As is pretty much common knowledge the other choice was a full blown land invasion, which the best estimates were calling for 1 MILLION dead. Also the chance of success were lower. So no there was no better option."

I meant something more diplomatic rather than an invasion. If the US really cared about not killing the Japanese, they would have "bribed" them to get out of the war, this ALWAYS work.

"That works both ways bub, no matter what we do there will be plenty who think we are the spawn of satan."

What did you expect? You guys DID invent Rock'n Roll !! (Its a joke!)

Imperator:
"that was the tenant set by our goal of "unconditional surrender". The Japanese would not have surrendered without either an invasion on Japanese mainland, or (through hindsight) a nuclear attack on their cities."

So just because the Japanese didnt want to become the USs slaves, and thats what happens when you agree to unconditionally surrender, they deserved to be nuked?

Terrorism: The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence against non-military people or property to coerce or intimidate governments or societies.

I think that every one would agree on this definition. So i'll prove why the USs nuking of Japan (Hiroshima and Nagasaki) is an act of terrorism:
-The US nuked Japan to "scare" them into surrendering (fits in the definition above).
-By nuking Japan all the other countries started to "fear" being nuked by the US, since they were the only ones who possessed nukes(fits in definition).
-The targets of the nukes were civilian area with no or few soldiers (fits in the definition).

I think that ive proven my point ... what do you guys think?

Response to: terrorists not as bad as they seem Posted January 8th, 2008 in Politics

At 1/8/08 04:24 AM, CommanderX1125 wrote:
At 1/8/08 02:58 AM, Ahmudi wrote: The previous post is directed to PantyWIpe.

If terrorism is defined by the number of people a "group" can kill to cause fear to get to specific goal, then i know a terrorist group far worst than Al Qaeda. Its name is The United States of America. Why is that? Does Hiroshima and Nagasaki ring a bell?

Id like to see Cellar finding a way to explain why 220,000 (wiki)innocent people.
I'm willing to bet good money that your a troll, but I'll bite this once.

Terrorism is not defined by the number of people a group can kill but by the methods employed. Droping a bomb, no matter the destructive force, when the citizenry of an area are warned is not by any stretch of the imagination terrorism, especially Nagasaki as they should of been painfully aware that such a weapon was in fact real.

SO lets see, killing innocent people with a normal bomb is terrorism while killing people with a nuclear bomb which damage the land permanently is a justified way? Lets say they knew that it existed, what could they do? Pick up there stuff and leave? The last time i check, the japanese government and army were the ones that decided not to surrender, not the population who was attacked.

:Also, if you would stop for but a moment and look at your source, in this case Wiki, it says up to, meaning that the estimate is not a conservative one. The final death toll that was calculated came to 185,000 when it was all said and done.

Ok, sorry about the number!

Now then, as to why such an event occured. Do you have any knowledge of history involving the Pacific theater in WWII? I'm going to assume you don't and so I'll lay it out as simply as possible for you, attempting to invade the Japanese home islands would result in massive casualties on both sides ranging somewhere into the millions. The amount of troops it would require to establish a beach head and invade would make Normandy look like a walk in the park, not to mention that although the Japanese carrier fleet had been destroyed, they still had a number of destroyers and battle cruisers left to use, they merely lacked carriers. Simply put, no chance in hell for success, and so, after leaflitting the city in advance, we dropped the bomb, first in Hiroshima, then in Nagasaki.

Ahh, and why did the US have to invade Japan? To stop the attacks? I really think that there could have been a better choice than nuking them.

True, the horrors of the events should never be forgotten, but they pale in comparison to what we could of had to deal with, and so, with all due respect, stfu and learn a little history before you open your mouth.

I'll give you a history lesson for free. The US is never wrong, no matter what they do, someone will find a way to make them appear like heros.

Response to: terrorists not as bad as they seem Posted January 8th, 2008 in Politics

The previous post is directed to PantyWIpe.

If terrorism is defined by the number of people a "group" can kill to cause fear to get to specific goal, then i know a terrorist group far worst than Al Qaeda. Its name is The United States of America. Why is that? Does Hiroshima and Nagasaki ring a bell?

Id like to see Cellar finding a way to explain why 220,000 (wiki)innocent people.

Response to: terrorists not as bad as they seem Posted January 8th, 2008 in Politics

Actually its funny that you are saying that a person killing for his belifs is a piece of trash. You know how the land to build your beloved US was obtained right? Just in case you dont know. Milllions (idk if it was this much ...) of "native americans" were slaghtered just to find a new place for you guys to get goods, this was the main reason for exploring america. IDK about you, but to me, a person who kills for money is a much bigger "PIECE OF TRASH" than the person killing for his belifs.

PS. im not defending terrorism, im just commenting about what he said.
PSS. IM BACK !!! DID YOU GUYS MISS ME ? :P

Response to: Palestein - Israel peace treaty ... Posted November 30th, 2007 in Politics

And this post is for Dante to show him that i CAN post as much as i want !!!

PS: I prefer not to find my Inbox full of hate mail when i come back.

Response to: Palestein - Israel peace treaty ... Posted November 30th, 2007 in Politics

To Christopherr:

Its just that your mom asked me to go see her, and i really cant disappoint your mom ;).

Here is to all:

I didnt wanna give it to you like that but, you might want to stop watching porn and "having fun" with yourselfs and get a real life instead of just staying here and calling me names.

I had enough with this shit, why dont you all go screw your selfs! My sumer vacation started and im not gonna spend it online like you guys. ByeBye :D

Response to: Palestein - Israel peace treaty ... Posted November 30th, 2007 in Politics

At 11/29/07 07:47 PM, Empanado wrote:
You seem to completely miss the point. It's absolutely irrelevant whether or not you are Lebanese, because that does not justify thinking that it's okay for a raped woman in Saudi Arabia to be lashed to near-death, or that girls who wear mini-skirts are whores. Your life story has no importance whatsoever on the argument you're making if your only response to anything that is argued is "but I'm an Arab and I speak Arabic, and you don't!"

I know that what i said have nothing to do with the argument, but cellar called me a liar, and i hate being called a liar.
:and you justposted your goddamn personal documents on the Internet. I am pretty certain that you're a moron.

¬¬ id like to see what you can do with 5 really low quality pic of the first page of my passport.

And yet you still have the time to, and allow me to be clear here, scan and post your personal identity documents on a public forum.

I dont know about you, but it doesnt take much time to take pics of somthing.

Do you know how much money I could get from those pics in a shady department store down on Patronato street and/or how long would it take for Ali Ahmad Hassan to be investigated by the Policía Federal for laundering coke money?

Yeah i know, 0$. With pics like that, which i just posted for less than 24 hours, you can do nothing.

You went out of your way to do something particularly stupid in the Internets. You don't seem to have much of a social life.

I dont really care about what you think :D.

Response to: Palestein - Israel peace treaty ... Posted November 29th, 2007 in Politics

To Cellar:
My mother wanted to give birth to me in Kuwait, but she didnt because about the time i was born (06/10/1990) Saddam invaded Kuwait, you can check the date if you want. So my parents went to Brasil( to Dante: Brasil is written with an S here, i got a ZERO on a test for writing it with a Z. If you want, belive it, if yout dont, then dont.) and i was born in São Paulo. And after my birth my parents moved again to Lebanon, and two years ago we moved to Brasil, where i am now. Like i said to Dante, belive it if you want.

To Dante:
You said that im stupid and i cant even spell right. My main 2 languages are Arabic and Portugese, that explains why i make some (or alot i dont know) of mistakes while typing in English.

And i didnt run away, unlike some people here, i have a social life out side the PC so i cant stay on all the time.

Response to: Palestein - Israel peace treaty ... Posted November 29th, 2007 in Politics

AWWWWw .... the fight started without me ... what a shame !!

To Cellar:
Here are some pics of my passport.

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Pic5

If this isnt enough to prove that im Lebanese ... then i dont know what is.

Response to: Palestein - Israel peace treaty ... Posted November 29th, 2007 in Politics

At 11/28/07 09:04 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:
At 11/28/07 08:48 PM, Ahmudi wrote:
At 11/28/07 07:45 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:
Try not to us any of the "words" you use, or else ill have to return to ignoring you.
why? because cellar keeps countering every insult you give with a better one?

No, because i never insulted any one in this forum and i belive that i deserve to be treated the same way.

Response to: Palestein - Israel peace treaty ... Posted November 28th, 2007 in Politics

At 11/28/07 07:45 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:
Actually I'm serious, and I'm right. The fact that after ALL THE TIMES you've been proved wrong, how you have the audacity to question such simple facts. Every single ceasefire that has ever been established between Israel and the Palestinians has been broken by the Palestinians.

Actually, by Hamas.

In fact, DURING this very peace conference, Palestinians launched rockets into Israel.

Hamas again.

That's how fucked up the people you defend are.

Why cant you be civilized? When was the last time i said anything bad about anyone? Why do you have to use such words in a conversation ¬¬?

Lol and now you're saying you lived in Lebanon after I told you I was Lebanese a long time ago.
This is entertaining. It's like you're emulating me.

¬¬ What are you talking about? From the first time i started posting in this forum is pointed out that im Lebanese!!

Lol according to the fact that my father is Lebanese Arab and my surname is Arabic means I am Arab, half Arab to be specific.

If your father was Lebanese it doesnt mean that you are too. To be arab you need to live with arabs.

Frankly, I don't believe a word you say because you've proven before that you like to lie,

Yeah right, just because somthing i say appears as a lie to you, it doesnt mean that it is.

Lol... I rarely if ever use Wikipedia in a serious argument, never if it's questionable. Everytime I've argued with you I've used legitimate sources for my points and you just run away after you get proved wrong.

Comeon, we both know that you only use wiki when you see that it will support your argument, and you say that wiki isnt a relaiable source when you know that it will destroy your argument.

Legitimate sources huh? Like www.ihatearabs.com ?


Lol you're so pathetic that even though you linked to that article, you decided to intentionally leave out the first part of it where it says:

An Arab is a member of an ethnic group which identifies as such on the basis of either genealogical or linguistic grounds.

¬¬ I dont know if you noticed, but i left out the while page, not just that part. And, to me, an arab isnt a person whos parents are arabs. An arab is a person who lived most of his life, and had contact with, arabs.

You don't have to speak Arabic to be Arab. If someone descended from Arabs (i.e. genealogically) they can identify as such. I descended from Arabs. My dad is Arab, his entire family is Arab, originating in Lebanon.

Yeah you do. A language plays an important part of the personality and mentality of anyone. The language makes us think differently. Ask anyone who studied psicology and you will hear the same thing.

I identify as an Arab American.

Arab American? Its like saying that you are a Muslim Jew.

Try not to us any of the "words" you use, or else ill have to return to ignoring you.

Response to: Palestein - Israel peace treaty ... Posted November 28th, 2007 in Politics

At 11/27/07 09:51 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Not as long as Hamas and similar minded, blood-thirsty terrorists in the Palestinian territories hold sway.

¬¬ You just repeated what i said in other words.


If we used history as a pretext for a prediction, it won't last because Palestinian terrorists will break a ceasefire and try to exploit the concessions of Israel, and their temporary trust, for further aggression against Israel.

This is what happens everytime. Israel will concede territory, and instead of addressing the fact that Israel did this as an act of goodwill, the Palestinians will hail it as a victory and a validation of their terrorist tactics.

Your joking right?

The funny thing about that is:

1) I don't even think you're Arab

I dont care what you think. My name is Ahmad Hassan Ali (A name cant be more arabic than this). I lived in Lebanon, arabic is my first and main language, Muslim, ... Isnt that arab enough for you ? Acording to wiki i am arab.

2) I told you I was Arab a long time before you claimed you were Arab.

According to Wikipedia (the website you always try to use against me), here is a way to define an arab :

Arab is "someone whose first language, and by extension cultural expression, is Arabic, including any of its varieties."

So explain to me, how can you be arab if you dont even speak arabic? ¬¬

Palestein - Israel peace treaty ... Posted November 27th, 2007 in Politics

I saw on a Brasilian website that there is a hope of a peace treaty between Palestien and Israel.

Do you guys think that it is possible?
If it is, will it last?
What do you think about the idea it self?

In my opinion, its the dumbest idea Bush had untill now. Why? No, not because im arab and i want all the jews to die (like cellardoor would probably say ¬¬), but because the problem isnt caused by the "Palestinian Government"(which we all know that doesnt exist), but its caused by extrimist groups. So making a deal with the Palestinian Goverment is a dumb idea.

But it might just work ... who knows.

Response to: Christians are unfairly prosecuted. Posted November 23rd, 2007 in Politics

At 11/8/07 09:33 AM, PantyWipe wrote:
If it was an islamic carnival, the rides would blow up before anyone could complain, and at an atheist carnival none of the rides would work right.

Maybe you dont know, but this is kinda racist ¬¬

Response to: Arabs, tell me everything you... Posted November 19th, 2007 in Politics

Hmm, lets see. Well its just the history we had together. Just do a little research and you will see why all this happened.

Well, the solution i can think of is getting the Jews out of Palestien, since the arabs have been kicked out since sharing that land is kinda hard and taking out the few jews from Israel is easier than kicking out all the arabs from the mid east.

I dont think that kicking anyone out of that land is fair, but look at the history of these two in the mid east, i doubt that sharing is possible.

Response to: Lebeneese Democracy? Posted November 17th, 2007 in Politics

At 11/9/07 02:34 AM, Takeshima wrote:
Anyways the Lebanese government dont have much power politically now. its all Hezbollah

¬¬
You really dont know what your talking about, Hezbollah doesnt have political power in Lebanon!

Response to: Hooray! We're terrorists! Posted November 17th, 2007 in Politics

At 11/13/07 02:03 AM, WolvenBear wrote: You have been blaming Israel since moment one.

¬¬
And you have been blaming the Arabs since moment -1.

Response to: If palestinians believe that... Posted November 15th, 2007 in Politics

Ignoring: The act of not replying or caring for something that some one says or does.

I am explaining because operantly someone didnt get it.

Response to: If palestinians believe that... Posted November 13th, 2007 in Politics

At 11/13/07 10:21 AM, PantyWipe wrote: I think we can ALL have a civilized conversation as long as all of you guys stop showing an OBVIOUS BIAS.

Jeez.

Yow, dont think less of me cuz im asking, my main 2 languages are Arabic and Portuguese, so i dont know all the English language. Whats BIAS ?

And i refuse to have a conversation with Cellardoor because he is just to damn stubborn and thinks that anything that goes against what his beliefs is a lie, and for him, any fact that might destroy his argument must be lie, and his way of handling arguments is quite rude. So ill just keep ignoring him :D

Response to: If palestinians believe that... Posted November 13th, 2007 in Politics

At 11/13/07 03:57 PM, PantyWipe wrote: Also Ahmudi, what makes me laugh about you is that yer bitching over a peice of land SMALLER THAN THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY. Look at the picture, it is a comparison to scale of israel to America. Arab muslims control a NINTH of all the land on earth. You people are just being spiteful and petty as fuck.

its cool tho. one day when everyones had enough of the palestinians crazy bullshit, this nonsense will be over.

One like you can never understand. By you i meant someone that has his land and was never taken from him, in the US, you guys were given the land on a gold plate, in the mid east, one must work hard to earn his land. Can you imagin someone working hard his entire life to get a piece of land to build his house on, and after he builds it some one comes and takes his land for him to give it to some other guy? Im sure that if the US kicked some americans from thier land to give it to the palestinians, the same thing would happen, and do deny, cuz you know that too.

BTW, no matter how small the land is, for some one, or some group. it means the world, and this person will fight with all his might to get his "world" back.

Response to: If palestinians believe that... Posted November 13th, 2007 in Politics

At 11/12/07 07:44 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

Im still gonna ignore you ^^

PS. Im ignoring you, not because i cant fight your arguments, because its impossible to have a civilized argument with you.

Response to: If palestinians believe that... Posted November 12th, 2007 in Politics

At 11/11/07 03:34 PM, PhoenixTails wrote: I'm American, and to me, capital punishment is justified because sometimes people just deserve to fucking die. cough*Saddam*cough

Israel started a war against lebanon, and killed thousands of innocent civillians, because two soliders were were kidnapped(another word for stolen that is used for human beings). And you think that cuting off someones hand beause he stole is a crime? Think with me, first you start as petty thief stealing walets, then you start stealing shops, then the houses of the rich, and the next thing you know you dont even care about killing some guard in a bank to get the money. Tell me, whats better, cuting his hand before he gets used to steal, or let him free untill he starts killing? BTW, as i said, this law isnt used in arabic countries any more.

PS: all my arguments are based on Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Kwait which is typical arabic countries.

Response to: If palestinians believe that... Posted November 12th, 2007 in Politics

At 11/11/07 05:16 AM, WolvenBear wrote:
At 11/8/07 05:54 AM, Ahmudi wrote:
Moreover, when Israel moved into the Mid East, there was a two state solution. But that wasn't good enough for any Arab. So they tried to kill every Jew. The history of Muslims and Jews has ALWAYS seen the Jew as the victim.

A two state solution huh ... First, why should any one share his land? Second, when i look at anymap i see Israel and no Palestien, so that two state solutions is just a lie. Jews are a victim huh? These victims sure know how to play this part ...

At 11/8/07 09:06 AM, Ahmudi wrote:
Bull. All that he has said is true. We have Western mullahs defending said practices.
And no one cares about you. Even if you're a saint, that says shit about all Arabs.

So my living with all types of arabs doesnt say shit and the news you heard about the arabs from some one that hates them says anything? I dont know why, but it doesnt make sense to me ...

And you don't want to kill the Jews. You just want to slander them. Aren't you enlightened?

I dont want to do anything to them, if we cant we can live in peace, then i prefer not to be near them.

Because my dad never did...NO ARAB ever has. Lame argument. Next?

I have been to many arabic countries and stayed there for some time, and not once did i see a woman being treated badly. On the other hand, ive been to the US, and there i saw quite some women with blue eyes. Let me guess, the arabic women dont show the marks of abuse and the women i saw with a blue eye just fell off the stairs ... My argument is lame huh?

And in the present.

In the present, when someone steal, he is sent to prison.

It's not their land. Israel was there first. And if it's the "Arabs" (see Muslims) because they stole/conquered it..then it was Britains when THEY took over.

If you ever studied arab histoty you will see that the British said that they were the to "protect" the land after the WWII, so that land was never thiers. BTW, show me one document or anything that proves that the jews were there before the arabs? Let me guess, the bad arabs burnt all the evidenvce right? ¬¬

That's cause Muslims are the only religion to have fanatics of note. The worst anyone can say about Christianity is abortion clinic bombings and Fred Phelps.

So let me see if i understood this, planting a bomb in a clinic that might have many people because this person is against abortion is OK, while bombing a ... idk, a bus because this person belives that by doing this his descendnts might have a place to live is a crime?

Homosexuality is punishable by death in Iran.

Prove it.

You suck at this debate thingie.

Oh really, i dont think that you are that good either.

Stop using Iran to justify what you want to say, its a really violent country, and its arabic, but it doesnt mean that all arabs are like that. Its like me using Brasil to justify that all western countries have well armed criminals.

Response to: If palestinians believe that... Posted November 8th, 2007 in Politics

At 11/8/07 09:09 AM, HexagonClock wrote:
Because American natives long ago lost any violent feelings / culture. In fact, most groups on this continent weren't as bloody and violent as those found in the Middle East / Asia.

The arabs are violent and bloody huh? Just remind me, who dropped 2 nuclear bombs on Japan ?

Response to: If palestinians believe that... Posted November 8th, 2007 in Politics

At 11/8/07 09:26 AM, PantyWipe wrote:
At 11/8/07 09:06 AM, Ahmudi wrote:

All this stuff you say is a lie spread by the Jews to get the sympathy of the world.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
the arabs USED to cut of a thiefs hand, the one that he used to steal, not feet and hands, just the one he used to steal. And it makes sense to me because he will never do it again.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I guess that you dont have anything to say against what i said ... My point is proved.