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At 3/13/14 01:55 AM, WiiFittoToreinaa wrote:

At 3/12/14 09:13 PM, joe27 wrote:

At 3/24/13 10:05 AM, FrozenFire wrote:

At 3/24/13 09:53 AM, mandog wrote: Thread pwned by mandog

Mandog is now Catwoman. She will be referred to as such henceforth.

I wish to own a reliable new car.

It's a hybrid.

I wish for a box.

Full of shit.

I wish I was fast as sound.

Granted but you can't control your speed and you immediately splatter against a wall.

I wish this thread got locked.

Pretty much my best bet is a good sized 2x4 and the Pakistani sword I have in my room. I have a hammer too. Not really much around here... Wouldn't take much to find a better weapon though, I live out in the country and some hick with a shotgun is bound to be out of town when it happens. Lots of summer houses around here too, so as long as it happens in the winter I'm in luck.

At 3/12/14 07:03 PM, Sekhem wrote:

At 3/12/14 06:48 PM, Zhon wrote: Just about any "gangster" word, phrase, or pronunciation when used seriously.

hey

look here

it's a racist

"gangster"

racist

Yeah.

At 3/12/14 06:26 PM, Iheartaliens wrote: with a foodstamps card

Thoughts on this?

Saw some lady buying Subway with her foodstamps card. Had over 800 points on her Subway card too. Cash benefits...

You lose that battle.

"Flow" in regards to an artistic critique. It makes me want to shove my 8H pencil up someone's ass.

Horribly butchered English words from native English speakers such as "irregardless", "for all intensive purposes", "in good conscious", etc.

"Swag" when used seriously.

Just about any "gangster" word, phrase, or pronunciation when used seriously.

Woohoo! I was useful! Can't wait to see where this goes, looks like it could be awesome.

Another small suggestion - in other collabs I've been in, the user's name was overlayed in the corner somewhere inconspicuous. Perhaps do the same here? I know the end is a (possibly) long way away, but yeah.

At 3/11/14 07:16 PM, Painbringer wrote: Is it still possible, in this day and age?

And by that I mean having all the modern conveniences (TV, game console, computer) just without ever being online?

And I assume you could still activate Windows over the phone, right?

Depends.

Gradually weening society off of the internet, one day at a time, replacing existing functions with new (or old) methods? Yes.

Instantly removing the internet from the world and seeing what happens? Hell no. Complete chaos and total anarchy in the first 24 hours.

At 3/11/14 05:23 PM, Earfetish wrote:

At 3/11/14 05:11 PM, Zhon wrote: NYC horribly inflates the median wage here, I live in Central NY so it's more around the $20k range like you said. I usually make $10/hr to $15/hr at most, but in this situation I was essentially making about $45/hr (fixed price job). Guess I'll just learn to be happy!

I am doing a similar job to you, I'm sure I'm not significantly better at it than you are, and I live in a cheap area of the cheaper-than-New-York UK. I now want $27 an hour (converted for simplicity). When I started off I wanted at least $16 / hour. You're underselling yourself man.

I know it's annoying haggling with clients, and small business owners are better at it than an untrained freelancer most of the time, but just make it clear that you have plenty of clients, you're a busy man, and they need to pay you at least $17.50 / hour if you're going to work with them. If you're confident enough about what you say then they'll pay you what you want. Some people can really take the piss, guy wanted me to write four 800 word articles for him every day for $10 an article. Eventually I got him commissioning me to do 7 500-word articles a day for $19 an article, which gave me a healthy annual wage regardless of other clients. Because I was willing to walk away.

It's a vicious world, business. Shit is dog-eat-dog. If you don't actively try to prevent yourself from getting fucked over, you will get fucked over. Your clients are businesses, and when you approach them as a freelancer, you are also a business. Think like an amoral, self-interested business, do not think like a sensitive young man.

The job I took on before this one ended badly, I had been doing well for months so I got too laid back and just handed over my work without a watermark. Client took the art and ran, no money, no message, nothing. Happens to me once in a while and then I remember I have to watch my ass or it'll get kicked.

I actually write for $1/100 words with one job I have now. I end up making about $12/hr off of it most of the time, sometimes more with easier topics and less with things I just have no knowledge of. I know people who write for shit money, $0.50 per hundred words or even lower. It's because the freelance market is global and people from dirt poor countries can work at dirt poor wages. I guess considering I do have a Bachelor's degree and can actually write in proper English I should be demanding more.

You give sound advice, but it's still nerve wracking to try and negotiate wages when you have been eating ramen and lettuce for the past month. I really should be aiming higher. $27/hr is fucking astronomical to me. I could literally work for one month full time on that wage and have my rent and bills paid for an entire year.

At 3/11/14 06:53 PM, Markface wrote:

At 3/11/14 06:42 PM, S3C wrote: why someone would spend $3000 on primitive wrist apparel is beyond me

Eh, some people like watches, some people don't. I guess people who never really wore watches before cell phones came out could see them as redundant. I guess that's why I rarely see them on anyone younger than me, a new generation is used to a smart phone in their pocket.

Some people wear them for style or sentiment, I just wear mine out of force of habit. But a few hundred dollars on something that will last you a lifetime doesn't seem like an extravagance to me.

Watches have become nothing more than an accessory. Their primary function has been replaced by the cell phone without a doubt, since almost everyone carries their phone with them at all times.

That being said - nothing wrong with accessorizing. Women buy bullshit crazy expensive earrings and necklaces all the time (or get them as gifts). Watches are classy. However as a poor man who constantly whips out a calculator at the supermarket, I'd never buy a watch with a price tag higher than my cell phone. Which was $36.

Back before I had financial obligations I splurged all my money on random tech and art crap. 100 sheets of Reeves BFK printmaking paper for $250... Damn good deal. Well, I guess if it's a good deal it's not really splurging is it?

At 3/11/14 05:24 PM, VigorousJammer wrote: Or would everybody prefer it if we just keep adding people and everybody has a single 120-frame contribution?

Make an ongoing list.

First come, first serve. Once your part is finished you may put your name back on the list at the end, but by default, you are taken off. Each person could have a deadline for their part (1 week max?) - if they don't have enough time, they could swap places with the next person.

This way everyone gets a turn and it keeps moving.

At 3/11/14 04:42 PM, Shadyface wrote: 35 characters is NOT enough for a thread title. Moving on.

I'm an animation student in my final year, and for one of our final projects I need to find a client and liaise with them on a small animation project. Does anyone have any little idea they're like an animation for? Could be a music video or a dramatic reading or whatever.

Pretty please?

Looking for paid or non-paid work for this project?
And do you have some samples of your animation?
Either way I may have something for you... But I'd really need to see examples first.

At 3/11/14 04:52 PM, Earfetish wrote: As a freelancer, consider that you should be making the average annual wage for your particular area, you deserve at least an average pay.

The average yearly wage in New York appears to be about $125,000. That means you should be asking for $61 an hour. You're unlikely to receive that as a freelance writer, but you shouldn't feel bad about asking for average.

If it's not fair using the New York annual wage as a starting point, then the US median wage is $26,695 which works out at perhaps $15 / hour. You're doing a skilled job in an expensive place.

NYC horribly inflates the median wage here, I live in Central NY so it's more around the $20k range like you said. I usually make $10/hr to $15/hr at most, but in this situation I was essentially making about $45/hr (fixed price job). Guess I'll just learn to be happy!

@Prinzy and others: yeah, I am well aware of perceived value. I landed *NO* jobs when I first started out because I kept applying for well below minimum wage in order to build a portfolio. That works for crappy intro level jobs, but I was doing that on larger jobs. People would never hire me because they didn't want some unskilled kid with no industry experience working on their product.

At 3/11/14 04:43 PM, GingerGymnast wrote: What sort of writing do you do? What did you charge this person and what do you normally charge?

I write mostly articles, blogs, and online learning courses. I actually was doing some art for this person. I asked for $165 - she paid me $150. I would have normally accepted more around $60. It was just a simple editing/coloring job. She asked for really simple coloring, so it's not like I could even really make it fantastic if I wanted to as multiple people in this thread have suggested. I think I am over it, though. My ultimate feeling on the subject has turned out to be thus: it's an open market and she had the option to choose anyone, and certainly had time to explore her options. If it was worth $150 to her, then we both benefited from it.

Hmm... I'll bite. Maybe start up a queue so we can stay in order?

Let's all make a pact right now to travel back to this point in time and post right before me (4:07 PM EST, 3/11/14) if time travel is ever perfected.

Write it down!

At 3/11/14 02:40 PM, Slacker013 wrote:

At 3/11/14 02:33 PM, NewgroundsMike wrote:

I wish someone would give me something.

Granted, sperm is free and you've got a stomach full!

I wish the moon was a shade of purple... not like a purple and more like a purple...

Granted, but the moon transforms into a person - a giant person, who then proceeds to invade the Earth and crush you under its foot.

I wish for infinite wishes.

At 3/11/14 11:20 AM, NewgroundsMike wrote:

At 3/10/14 03:19 PM, Clamstuffer wrote: I wish life was porn instead of drama.

Granted, you're the cameraman. You are not fucked, and you can't even jerk off without it looking shit.

I wish life didn't suck.

Granted, but you only get to enjoy it for a week before your cancer takes its toll.

I wish I had my dream job.

Yfw you realize Achromatic bumped this thread from '12.

At 3/11/14 12:41 AM, STEM wrote: Charging too little tells the client you're worth too little.
It's best to over charge in the long run, as you set yourself up with better clients and weed out those that don't value your true worth as a professional freelancer.
Get it out of your head that you should feel bad. You should only feel unethical if you have to exploit and/or deceive a client to get more money. You're still a fair and responsible person, that's what counts.

That's just the thing, though. I do feel like I exploited this client because they don't really know anything about freelancers - or digital art for that matter. I think this person expected my job to take ~10 hours and I ended up finishing it in about three. I get what you're saying... It just feels really weird to smile and present finished files to someone knowing that they overpaid the shit out of you.

Hello good people of Newgrounds,

I come to you again with fun questions. Allow me to provide some backstory, or skip to the next section if you don't care.
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The entirety of my income comes from freelancing as an artist and a writer. It has always been my practice to be completely honest and transparent with my clients, which is most of the reason why I am successful. However, a few days ago I was interviewing for a job and asked for an amount of money I knew was too high... Standard practice, just like selling a car. I expected her to come back with a much lower amount, but instead she asked for just a few dollars lower... I accepted, not expecting to get nearly that much money for the job. It was a really simple job, and I was getting paid roughly triple what I normally do.

I was tempted, at the end, to offer a discount - to clear my conscience of taking this person's money, who clearly was new to the freelancing scene - but I just barely made it out of a financial slump not too long ago, and the extra cash was nice. I ended up just taking it. I am trying to look at it with the attitude of "hey, if they have the money to throw around, who am I to turn it down?" but there's a part of me that still feels guilty about it. I have this noble notion that I should earn every one of my pennies, but sometimes I don't know where to draw the line between ripping people off and just making better money.
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So, my questions to you, Newgrounds: do you follow a set of professional ethics? Why or why not? Would you ever break these ethics if it meant getting more money? Have I fallen to the ranks of a common mechanic who swindles uninformed teenagers out of their money?

At 3/10/14 03:20 AM, exudaz wrote: Thank you for getting your point across without being a douche.

I now understand why I'm reading his plays, and why they're important.
Now I think I can appreciate his works and not be so quick to disregard literature just because I don't understand it right away.

Again, thank you.

No sweat - it's what I do.
Also... If you ever need some help figuring one of the plays out or just want to discuss it, you should totally start a thread. I don't know about everyone else here but I'm down for some literary analysis. Who knows - you might raise the quality level of threads around here at the same time.

First of all I want to say that the purpose of a highschool English class should no longer be to teach proper spoken English. That should be grades K-8, maybe 9th and a slight portion of 10th at the very latest. 10th, 11th, and 12th grade should be about advanced concepts of the English language and literature, or at least some other more intellectual subject.

Second, the purpose of reading Shakespeare is to expand your literary horizons - to witness works of literature that have inspired hundreds of thousands of other authors, and to understand the groundbreaking concepts developed at his time. Shakespeare also had an influence on people outside the world of literature. Take for example Freudian psychology - much of it is, in fact, based on theories developed by Shakespeare in his plays. There are some pretty important topics covered in many of his plays - if you have not discovered them yet, your teacher is doing a shit job of presenting the material to you. Some of them may not be as volatile as the cautionary dystopian tale presented by Bradburry in Fahrenheit 451, but they are nonetheless intellectual and important throughout history.

Also, what chocomilk said.

If you are struggling to appreciate Shakespeare's works, I suggest watching them live or on DVD. Look into Kenneth Branagh's version of Hamlet - it is definitely the most epic production of this play in history, and it will make the play a LOT more enjoyable. It appeals more to modern audiences while still staying true to the original work.

At 3/8/14 01:08 AM, Thor wrote:

At 3/7/14 02:00 AM, Zhon wrote: Not only is it degrading to women,

So who else stopped reading here?

One or two other people in this thread from what I can tell.

At 3/7/14 05:32 PM, NeonSpider wrote: Would you prefer MMO ads of muscular men with big bulging packages?

What about MMO ads of muscular boob men?

I'd prefer MMO ads of whatever the game contained. If the game has muscular men with arousing bulges, go for it. If it primarily features skanky boobflops then whatevs. But if it's a game about catching pokemon or some shit and it has a bunch of naked chicks in the ad, it annoys me.

At 3/7/14 06:20 AM, VJF wrote: I've seen a lot of users in this thread complaining about the ads, so why don't you guys do something about it and get Adblock? It's free and works well as far as I know. I no longer even see any of the ads you guys are talking about.

Just a suggestion.

Along with wanting to support NG with keeping ads enabled I also like some of the better ads. I've clicked on quite a few to check out games before.

@ Ragnarokia: The worst part is that these crappy ads turn people like us away from their games. I've never even clicked on half of these ads because I was so annoyed with their advertising model, whereas a game with a boring ass picture of a pirate that said "lol free 2 play u shuld try" got my click.

At 3/7/14 02:39 AM, DM692 wrote: I posted this one a while back, but I really do like the artwork.

Oh, I should mention this. Don't get me wrong... I do like most of the art. I just don't think it applies... At all.

The art I don't like is when they do ridiculous crap like cut out the breasts in photoshop and animate them blowing up like balloons. Isn't that some weird fetish or something?

At 3/7/14 02:18 AM, baoxiaotian wrote: I like the dong significantly.

I hate you, but this is the best thing I've read all day.

@ Bryan: no, that happened to me the first time I watched a video in a while too. Actually I ended up just not watching it :(

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What the hell did you just call me?

I don't remember the title or anything but there was this really well-done and really freaking long creepypasta about a haunted Legend of Zelda: OOT cartridge. Whatever the hell the thing in that is called is my favorite.

Half the time I read creepypasta I get anxious just because I know it's supposed to be scary, lol.

At 3/7/14 02:11 AM, FistofGreedo wrote: ello' ello' ello'

This is an example of proper use of sexuality. It is actually a prominent feature of the game. Yes, sex does sell... Doesn't make it any less obnoxious in the scenario I mentioned.