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Thank you for your feedback, but I don't intend to do anything with that image. At one point, I'll made a new one with all feedback I have recieved in mind.

I recently finished my practice piece. The thing was about drawing armor from my imagination, without using any references. I already know that the piece has it's flaws, but I would like to ask about a focused feedback ragarding armors in general. I'm new to the topic, and I would like to learn more.

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/336/3/8/_practice__dude_in_armor_by_zelgadisgw-d88fdl3.jpg

Thank you very much.

What you did was a indirect insult.

@PMMurphy
So, what I am doing is plagiatism. Thank you very much sir, you are so kind.

@PMMurphy

Thank you for your reply. First of all, I warned about nudity in that piece, you just weren't paying attention. Second of all, I appreciate all advices, but I cannot agree completely. I think both drawing other artists' styles AND from life/imagination is important. Too bad drawing from life random people is at least troublesome.

About "draw your own stuff". This is another time I feel like fanart isn't appreciated here.

@lovingthedark
Thank you for a feedback, so far everything is understandable. The perspective practice is on my "to do" list for a long time, so I'll definely tackle that at some point.

Hi guys. Long time no see. For starters, thank you for your previous feedback, it helped me greately. I've been practicing a lot since that time (even thought I don't always had the time and strength to do so), and I wanted to show results in the piece I finished recently.

Feedback regarding the anatomy, pose, background, shading etc. would be appreciated.

Warning thought, at it's rating is at least M, due to nudity.
http://art.ngfiles.com/images/327000/327118_zelgadisgw_mai-shiranui.png

Thank you, but I do not mean that it's hopeless. I simply mean that my learning speed is wery slow, as I believe "potential" or "talent" is a trait that is merely stimulating the rate of growth. And if I sounded hopeless it's probably because I envy people who has that "potential".

Cheers.

Let's drop the "potential" topic. I cannot prove my beliefs to be true, neither any of you can yours. Yet, I appreciate your replies, thank you.

At 8/6/14 04:55 PM, odditiesbyangela wrote: I think you have a lot of potential, however, for the style of art that you're drawing I think you should pay close attention to anatomy and also composition. Your characters look like people, there are just some things that make them seem a little bit off. The clothing is actually pretty well-drawn, but even if the characteristics are on point, if the stance or facial structure is off, it throws everything else off. Another thing--when you're drawing only characters without any substantial action going on with each other or with their surroundings, it can be really boring to look at. You should practice drawing from different perspectives and also adding some depth by using backgrounds or other elements to make the characters have some personality.

I hope this helps.

I disagree about potential part. Dudes, I might be new here but I'm drawing for years. After all that, I can't still get anatomy right, action right, perspective right, proportions right and so on. So please... My growing rate is pathetic. There is hardly any potential.

But, the rest of the things you are pointing out is accurate, I think and I am thankful for them.

I think what lovingthedark meant with the lineart is that some spots where the line art is shown makes the image look flat. For example the clothing on the naruto images. In the first image the boy with the scarf's sleeve looks flat due to the black lineart (plus very bad cloth wrapping) while the girl's sleeve (at the right side) appears better because the lineart looks faded. This also apply most parts of your image problems, like hair, skin, etc.

Here my advice for drawing in the future.

Your mature image anatomy appears better then any of the rest of your image, try drawing your characters naked then clothed them, make the clothes wrapped around them and think of how gravity would affect them.

Fix up posture for your characters, one character look slanted compare to the other. One of the key component on drawing people, is figuring out their center of gravity, footing, and spine. If you put your elbow up high and arm bend down to reach your back. Your stomach will push forward and your chest will flex out. Before drawing your characters, try the poses out yourself.

In the last image, you got lazy with the shadow, this also have to do with learning light source. Shadows are like a reflection. But in a form of silhouettes. The leg/arm touching the cane also cast shadows, don't be afraid to connect the dots here.

Another advice relating to lineart, there many thoughts and techniques relating to lineart. Like how the outer edge of the line art is thicker then the inner lines within the line art. When foreshortening the closer object lines are thicker compare to the ones further back. Linearts can even have unfinished lines and still appear recognizable.

Plus in my personal opinion, doing lineart is harder compare to painting. You have to be a perfectionist in your strokes while painting lets you paint over mistakes. Plus with painting you can work in with your sketch unlike most linearts.

That's strange, because I recall coloring the lineart of the boy so it wouldn't be black. Turns out it's still too dark, thought. I get it.

To correct you, my "mature image anatomy" isn't better at all, because I was using real photo as a reference, while in other drawing I did not. Meaning, it's not my skill at all.

My opinion on digital painting still remains. All I accomplished by trying digital painting was a failure and nothing more, same for traditional painting. I guess I never was really comaptible with it.

But anyway, thank you very much for your response, I have something to think about. I would never have predicted to hear so much feedback here.

Luck? Yeah, I'll need plenty of that.

At 8/6/14 06:24 AM, lovingthedark wrote: Simmer down, folks.

Zeldagis, I usually stick to realism so I have a hard time giving as in-depth a critique to more stylized pieces, but a few things I think you could work on:

-think heavily about composition! a lot of your pieces look like character designs that have been stuck on top of a background- I recommend planning both elements at the beginning of the piece and paying close attention to how figures interact with space

-light sources! where is your light coming from? most of your pieces have shadows that contradict each other

-don't be afraid to get rid of your lineart- describe forms with how one edge meets another edge, rather than with lines left over from a previous stage in your painting

-avoid pure black and pure white- these are rarely found in nature, and a black or white with a tinge of color in it tends to have more character to it.

Also, anyone who has been scouted in the past can scout you- they don't have to be a site moderator and rating isn't involved until you've been scouted. Find more information about it here.

Thank you for response. I think you are utterly right about composition. About light sources, sometimes I use lights in the shadows to make drawn characters sticks out from background more. And if shading of Malthael is what you mean, it's because the light sources in his picture are like this
I also don't get what do you mean about lineart. It's digital drawing, not painting, lineart is neccesary. Digital painting is way beyond my reach.

I also agree about pure black and white.

Thank you, yet again.

Your own words towards other user:
"Why are you trying to argue with me? and did you write that gassed up critiqe just so you can look like a cunt?"

Considering your reaction guys.... Is fanart not appreciated on Newgrounds? Is it not welcomed somehow? Because you guys sounds like it is not.

@dumbclowny
I am convinced that there are major things I have to work on. Like anatomy, perspective, abillity to draw different things from different angles.... That kind of stuff. But thank you, anyway.

@TheGhostOfMarz
Thanks for pointing a way to track my mistakes during the construction phase. But, please don't argue with other people who took their time to help me and criticize my work.

@Theheatisrushing
Aside from your dislike towards the content I draw, I appreciate your reply greatly. It seems that I haven't really get down the basic proportion yet. This is rather depressing thought. Well, I'll have to work for it.

At 8/5/14 07:00 AM, TheGhostOfMarz wrote: keep working on it...your...like 2.5 on my radar...(pretty good for a starter...

The problem is I'm not starter, I practiced for a long while. Also, I would like to hear more concrete feedback, but you're the only one who bothered replying, so I should be thankful for even that.

Hi there, my almost beautiful people.

I'm a new person on Newgrounds. If I recall and understood it well, after posting 4 pieces in my gallery, someone from moderation is to check them out and rate them. If they were good enough, he/she is to allow them to be viewed via search. But, that never happened and as such my works are evidently not "good" enough.

So I ask you kindly to take a look at them and critique them. Please, be honest and show me no mercy. I prefer harsh truth than pretty lies, since I want to improve. The only thing I'm asking about your eventual opinion is to keep your feedback civil.

(from newest to oldest)
http://art.ngfiles.com/images/312000/312366_zelgadisgw_flowers-of-trees.jpg

Warning, M rated one: http://art.ngfiles.com/images/312000/312365_zelgadisgw_pakura-bikini.jpg

http://art.ngfiles.com/images/312000/312364_zelgadisgw_gaamatsu-red-thread-of-fate.jpg

http://art.ngfiles.com/images/312000/312363_zelgadisgw_death-is-beyond-your-reach.jpg

http://art.ngfiles.com/images/312000/312362_zelgadisgw_scrab-song.jpg

Cheers.