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At 4/22/11 11:11 AM, TasmanianDevil wrote:

At 4/22/11 10:53 AM, J-qb wrote: Cool story brah, nice and short.

Is there a question in there? do you mean what is highschool like in art terms as in how many (good) artists there would be in highschool or as in how art classes will be in highschool?

both

That's irrelevant.

The art classes in high school are usually a mess. You won't learn much in there, unless you are fascinated by doing papier-maché masks of pseudo-african deities.

As of the other artists you might meet, I can guarantee there will always be someone better out there (highschool or not). Keep drawing, but don't neglect your studies. It might not seem like it, but you have tons of free time in high school and you can always draw outside of class.

Lower the opacity of a soft brush (20% to 30%), and smooth one color into another. When you're using a brush, pressingAlt is a quickswitch to the eyedrop tool. That way you can easily blend colors into each other.

By the way, you don't necessarily want to paint skin smooth. I tend to get away from that now, as skin should not look like plastic.

At 4/22/11 10:56 AM, Kay-Cee wrote: I need help on improving. I just finished a drawing and critique on it would help me to realize what NOT to do next time I paint. First I did the whole thing in grey usig pen pressure. Than i blended it using the smudge tool and than for the colors I just created another layer on top of everything and used multiply. By the way I use photoshop 7, and I used no refrences so thats why the eyes are so ridculously large (I didnt realize this until I was practically done with the whole thing.) So, any tips on how to improve?

I think before anything else, you should check your anatomy before even starting to color. It's something you must train yourself to notice as soon as possible, otherwise the drawing is screwed.

I also believe you're using the wrong brushes; every detail in there is made using a soft brush, which makes the image blurred out. Soft brushes are usually used to blend details in, but contours should be made using harder brushes. Another thing, never touch the smudge tool, as it is very weak in terms of control and effect. Using a multiply layer to insert some colors is not going to do you any good in most circumstances, as you will get only darker shades and you won't be able to paint light colors. Try painting colors using a normal layer.

One last thing, get rid of that automatic texture effect on the hood!

At 4/21/11 11:54 PM, hochpoch wrote: Fifty. I have been following this thread. And i just am really impressed with your progression. You are on your way to becoming a fantastic artist(even though you practicly are now)

I agree. Looking back at the first page makes it immediately obvious that you've made some colossal improvements.

Way to go brahh

Wow your comics are awesome!!! ^^

I had never taken the time to browse through your art thread and I'm pleased I did so. Your sense of humor makes every drawing posted here on the epic side of epic. Keep drawing!

Love the facial expressions

I find these comics too pompous to be funny.

They take a self-important tone to point out obvious truths, passing them off as wit. The drawings themselves are far from flawless, which makes the whole point of "do this instead of that" similar to taking etiquette classes from your local hobo.

I would not mind these comics if they did not imply (even sarcastically) that the internet artistic community is doing it wrong.

Where is your god now?

The skull tattoo is a lovely addition.

At 4/21/11 06:47 PM, Luwano wrote: Hey Joe and Vonschlippe, are you serious?! You didn't add any copyright disclaimer. People will now steal your ideas. You're living extremely dangerous!

I'm actually doing it all out of goodness of heart.

On another note, I just noticed Shania's signature is this:
Flames are just praise, but you need to squint to see it.

I am in awe ^^

I think it's not that bad!
Of course, there is a lot of room for improvement. A more dynamic pose would make the drawing come alive, as of right now the composition is very stiff. I think you have some work to do in order to properly render the fabrics and materials you use. Try perhaps to work some texture in there. Also, before starting the coloring, make sure your anatomy is flawless... at this point it's pretty much impossible to fix anything!

At 4/21/11 04:58 PM, PigeonOnAStick wrote:

At 4/20/11 03:25 PM, Vonschlippe wrote: awkward lesbian fantasy on MS paint

oh good lord that is the best description I have heard anything being called.

Thank you very much good sir!

I've decided to make a cover for the book! I expect this image to haunt your dreams forever.

Now that we know what's coming next in the story, I think it would make an interesting community project for everyone to submit one panel and continue the story from here on.

Just try to stay true to GameMasterShania's unique style. I'm sure we can turn it into a timeles tale of growing up, losing innocence and facing the harsh realities of life in a catholic schoolgirl upbringing.

There is no shortcut or quick trick to achieving great works of art. It's thousands of hours of practice that go into making the clean, efficient works of art that go into every comic.

I know that Scott Ramsoomair (from VGcats) uses flash for the lineart in his drawings, because vector graphics will give a cleaner result than most photoshop brushes...

At 4/20/11 03:25 PM, Vonschlippe wrote: Oh.... yikes...

I guess I don't have much to say on how to improve an awkward lesbian fantasy on MS paint. It's very hard to take this seriously.

Scratch that, I actually found a way to improve it. I took the freedom to add a panel; I trust this will not break the flow of your serious comic. The purpose was to further add to the already incredible emotionnal depth in both characters. If you wish so, you can outsource the art to me! Just send me a pm with the rest of your 50 page script and I'll take care of the drawings!

PS: It took me 150 hours to write a plugin for photoshop in C++ that was able to graphically interpolate the pixels in order to remove the watermark.

First off: I love this.

NOW HOLY SH*T RUN AWAY FROM THE GUARDS !!!

At 4/20/11 04:20 PM, Larkatosa wrote: Just you wait until she starts the steaming hot lesbian action!

Oh yes, this comic appears very promising. I am giddy with excitement.

Oh.... yikes...

I guess I don't have much to say on how to improve an awkward lesbian fantasy on MS paint. It's very hard to take this seriously.

At 4/17/11 11:47 PM, Kinsei01 wrote: why all the recent filter rape man. its really harming everything more than helping....
Filters are tools to help images, not one click fix all. And massive apply like this is some of the worst things you could use them for.

I agree with Kinsei, as stock photoshop filters are immediately obvious to anybody who's uses the program. Systematically applying a filter to every bit of the picture is what is commonly referred as "filter rape", and it is commonly interpreted as a display of novice photoshop skills...

I don't even think you can improve an image using a filter... avoid them at all costs! There are so many subtler ways to make art using photoshop!

I got little credit indeed, since they did not provide a link to my page and they included the high-resolution file with their CD... here's a scan of the magazine >_>

The translation (in red) says: "Who would not like to die in the arms of this kind of medic? This image, and many others are included in our bonus DVD!"

Weee, pokemon....

At 4/16/11 11:52 PM, Dalenbourg wrote: oh shit i scouted him, now im probs gonna get reprimanded!

I'm always suspicious of people who write single sentences in their art descriptions, or don't bother even writing one at all. Didnt you suspect anything when you compare that halo piece to the shitty visor thing next to it in his gallery? He probably drew one or two things in there (the crappy birds, for instance), but most of it seems stolen...

So far he has not accepted the scout, so perhaps his stuff will be removed before you get penalized for it!

At 4/16/11 11:58 PM, Kumakun4 wrote: Ah, really...?
That's gotta suck, seriously. I've personally never had any knowledge of it ever happening to me. I doubt I've ever produced or posted anything worthy of theft :O
But it's gotta suck if it was a magazine though haha.
A known mag?
Or some backwater doomed-to-bankruptcy rag?

One gaming magazine in Turkey had the arrogance to make my terran medic drawing a centerpiece poster and including the file on their promotionnal dvd included with the mag. http://oyungezer.com.tr/ is apparently the biggest turkish gaming magazine. Bloody thieves if you ask me.... They even mention my name and say I gave them permission! The other magazine to print it was german, and they came up with the same lie about my giving permission. I'm not even counting the websites that published it, but you can google "Starcraft terran medic" and look at the images that come up... it gives a rough idea of how much my picture was abused.

Stuff posted on internet gets stolen.

I've had one of my drawings used in several magazines without my permission, and it was taken straight from deviantart (where it's allegedly protected by a license...) There is little you can do (legally) if someone steals your stuff from an internet gallery.

The best protection is not copyright, but using a flash gallery which makes the image harder to copy-paste. They can still screenshot it or rip it through software, but it's harder and the resolution is lower. If you really want to keep your stuff protected, keep it to yourself and don't upload it!

I hope nobody has scouted this guy yet, seeing as he's an art thief.

After looking at his gallery, you can find this and this with a quick google search. He is not the author of the drawings in his gallery.

At 4/15/11 11:10 PM, DragonShiryu2 wrote: For all you disbelievers, here is the sketch image.
Honestly, that disbelief made my weekend so much worse. I don't need to wake up to that, but thanks for all the good criticism I got as well.

Did you honestly think you could fool anyone with basic photoshop filters? Unbelievable. Don't take us for idiots. If you are unable to provide us with a real sketch, my next conclusion is that the image (at least the base) is stolen.

I think it would be best for you to sketch alot more before posting results, especially if you just started. At this point, there is not much the community can do to help except telling you to practice and look at anatomy books. Such pointers are pretty obvious and you can work that out yourself.

Eventually, you'll feel like you've stopped progressing and you have a hard time improving. That's when the comments from us may be of use.

I look forward to seeing your 5000th sketch!

Hmm, I'm in college, but I'm studying in engineering! That does not prevent me from painting... I don't think skill improves much with classes, compared to practice. Classes are just an occasion to try something new and study people who are better than you... which is something you can do on your own!! ^^

At 4/5/11 10:53 PM, ornery wrote:

At 4/5/11 08:39 PM, Vonschlippe wrote:

At 4/5/11 08:38 PM, TholomewP wrote: Nope.

Well I wish you good luck in your project then :)

Whatever happened to good ol' pencil and paper >:(

Hater's gonna hate.

More seriously, I just think I'm not the go-to person for realistic pencil portrait. I can sketch, but my rendering skills are limited to photoshop. That's all! :P

At 4/5/11 08:38 PM, TholomewP wrote: Nope.

Well I wish you good luck in your project then :)

At 4/5/11 04:26 PM, Funny-Man wrote: The scene can be found on 3DRENDER . Other scenes can be used for lighting challenges and practice for Maya.
I used mental ray material for the bottles, I used and area light behind the frame and in front of the image of the burning building.
Global Illumination is turned on in the Maya Software settings, as well as basic raytracing shadows from the point light placed by the fire for a stronger light coming from the image.

What's the challenge about?

Anyways, I find the lighting somewhat awkward in your image. If the colors and mood are alright, there's something unnatural about the light in your bottles.

It's not normal that the bottom of every bottle is the same color. They all project shadows, some of which are cast upon the window sill, but these shadows are not present in the bottom of the bottles in the shadow's path. Also, sometimes the bottles seen through another look awkward because the distortion is too clear. I think the speculars should be more diffuse, and the glass more opaque. Add some subtle film grain to the image for even more realism.

At 4/5/11 08:24 PM, TholomewP wrote: Thanks! Do you have any tips on technique?

Many.

Do you have a pen tablet (Wacom Bamboo or the likes)? I can hardly imagine doing realism using a mouse or touch pad....