At 8/7/05 01:28 AM, GeneralMBison wrote: For me they should have dropped it on Germany to wipe out the Nazis while US should have invaded Japan and catched Tokyo.

do you realise that germany had already given an unconditional surrender

At 8/6/05 01:56 PM, lapis wrote: Of course! How could I not see it? The Israeli media wouldn't lie about this; it's the liberal American media along with their evil European colleagues who are trying to make eveyone hate Israel and the Jews!

ROFLMAO
But seriously the jews brought anti-semitism apon themselves.

At 8/6/05 09:39 AM, Lidov wrote:

At 8/6/05 08:22 AM, TurnipClock wrote: Israel shouldn't exist.

You are welcome to claim this here.

But I wasn't asking an Israel related question, i was making an Israel related statement. Idiot.

Israel shouldn't exist.

At 8/1/05 06:59 AM, FAB0L0US wrote: I swear to god, does anyone even read the topic? AT ALL?

i read the title

At 8/1/05 01:23 AM, ReiperX wrote: -Unlike Nicotine its not addictive

Proof?

I really beleive the moon landing was fake. The swaying flag and the multiple light sourcesare kind of a give away.

At 7/29/05 06:30 AM, carrot_spade wrote: i know one thing they killed all the jews , with gas chambers

I noticed you used the word "all". You need to realise that the ones who were not executed or who used their brains and got out of Germany were used in forced labor camps to make themselves usefull for the Reich. Use of the world "all" is wrong in your context.

I don't much like the locks.

At 7/29/05 06:21 AM, Moody_Media wrote: Xbox pwns, i mean it has its own freakin' hard drive!

So does my pc,
pc > console.

At 7/28/05 10:27 PM, JesusCyborg wrote: dark basic

no fool, qbasic

At 7/29/05 05:51 AM, hkmaster wrote: Do you know anything about the holocaust you fool. Did you know that they killed all homosexuals as well as Jews?

dont forget gypsies, retards, and incompetant poles ;)

At 7/29/05 03:04 AM, Maus wrote: Officially, wot? Yeah, that's nice, but Hitler wasn't the anti-gay crusader, Himmler was.

It doesn't matter who the crusader was, Hitler was the head of the NSDAP.

At 7/28/05 11:11 AM, Lidov wrote: The palastinians have a president a prime minister, a flag ARMY etc. The only thing they are missing, is the official land, but they are still attacking us from god knows where. It is a war.

You realise they are attacking Israel because Israel sucks ass. When ww2 was over most of the jews said something along the lines of "After this we will never let anything like that happen again where people are taken from their home lands ect.....", is that what their saying to the palestinians when they're knocking down their houses. Israel shouldn't exist!

At 7/28/05 11:11 AM, Lidov wrote: nevermind, i won't discuss about philosophy right now, but i am sure that if there is something good from everything bad, the good thing is mostly a lot smaller than the bad thing.

Thats good considering you have atrocious english skills.

At 7/28/05 07:43 AM, Lidov wrote: He started the WWII, without him, the Japanease never attacked USA and was bombed in the first 2 atom bombs.

You know nothing about history. Japan was engaging in impirialistic activity in the pacific before Hitler had even gotten into power. Japan attacked Pearl Harbour because it was in the pacific and Japan thought Hawaii should belong to Japan. Also USA was helping China while Japan was slowly taking over China and other pacific nations. Go stick your Hitler-Japanese death theory up your ass.

Fine, then he killed 25,000,000 people, but Hitler killed the rest of them, he started the war, Stalin had to defend Russia, it is like sayng that churchil killed the British soldiers.

What i was implying was that any civillians (also partisians) who refused to fight for the red army were killed. Civillians who did not give their stocks to the red army were killed. Hitler started a war in Europe, it was never a world war untill Britian declared war on Germany.

I don't want to start an other argument, but Hitler was a lot worse.

Sure, proof?

O_o and killing thousend of Polish people is justified? Britian as the greatest power in this area had to do somethiing. Hitler started the war.

I did not say killing poles was rightly justified you fool. It doesn't matter who was doing the right thing because Britian declared war on Germany and that started world war 2.

You are the idiot! if yo count both the direct and indirect killing of Hitler, he killed way more that Stalin.

No he didn't. You should also note that you dont count indirect kills (If you did then Stalin would also be responsible for the millions killed in China by the CCP).

HA! Maybe during the war, but after it everything was ruined! Europ faced in front of a war not a long time before and it couldn't handle an other war.

Europe was already in economic ruin before ww2 began.

Are you telling me that war is good for the economy?

When the war was over mass industrialization had been finished in most parts of Europe.

At 7/28/05 09:24 AM, fenrus1989 wrote: not arming them and even the gulaghs which i have to say were worse than the concentration camps.

Whats even worse then the gulags or concentration camps were the Japanese POW camps.

At 7/28/05 09:57 AM, LegendaryLukus wrote: and whoever highlighted the japanese is right. nanjing anybody?

Finally someone who agrees with me on the japs.

At 7/28/05 10:03 AM, Lidov wrote: You cannot say that they were planning to attack US either way, it is silly, it is like saying "if Hitler didn't born, a WWII was now, do you realize that?". It is right that they were going to attack them either way, but Hitler made it part of the WW, he made it a lot more cheotic, without it, I doubt the atom bombs were sent.

I dont know how many times you have to be told this but the Japs were invading almost all of the pacific countries and any retard can figure out that sooner or later they would have made a move on Hawaii. You should also try to improve on your english as you have the grammar and sentance stucture of a nine year old.

um... actually he killed only (it is funny to say only) 6 mil. Jews, but he killed 4 more million Gypsies and other 'low races'. If you talk about his soldiers who died at war and the other Europian people he killed, it is more than 25,000,000. Now, if we count the people that he killed by economy, it is more than 30 mil. people.

No you are wrong, only 1m Gypsies, Homos, Retards ect were killed. Your statistics are retarded so you = fail.

No, he also started a war, later to become the world war 2, the heaviest war the world has even known!!!

Again i refer to you as being an example of what extreme Jewish propaganda does. You are holding Hitler solely responsible for ww2 which is preposterous.

This is what i said, Hitler did start the war, but he can't just start a world war, because it isn't a world war until an other country joins the fight, this country was britian, but you cannot say it started the war.

Hitler started a war with Poland, we all acknowledge that. Now you have to accept that BRITAIN started the world war 2 by declaring war on Germany.

He killed way more soldiers and other low races, he commited genocide in every Europian people that didn't support him, or at least tried to.

You are a fucking idiot. 7-8m people of that lower race bullshit were killed. Have a look at war time statistics of how many soldiers were killed and civs were killed. Even though half a million yanks died only about a third of them would have been killed by Hitler because Germany wasn't the only nation in the Axis you fool. As for the genocide thing you are just showing what a complete moron you are.

Are you serious!? Worse than consentration camps!? How the hell is that?

Read a book and you will find out. You can't just assume that because your Rabbi tells you that Hitler was evil and whatnot that the German concentration camps were the worst of all. The Gulags were worse then concentration camps and the Jap camps were worse then all of them.

You cannot count Stal;in dea soldiers as Stalin's kills, if they are someone's kills, they are Hitler's, the one who actualy killed them.

They count as Stalin's when they were killed by his own men or died of starvation,/malnutrition.

Well, how do you explain the fact that befoe the intifada our economy was in a bloom and now it is down? Now there is a bit refresh, but generally, we went down a lot.

When you learn to write at a third grade standard i will answer your query.

Who the hell is talking about the Japanease chineese war? I am talking about the Japanease american war.

you said:

At 7/27/05 07:54 PM, Lidov wrote: Yes he did, he started WWII, the japanease people died because of Hitler, but indirectly.

I cannot see anything about america here you mongoloid.

At 7/28/05 03:56 AM, altanese_mistress wrote:

At 7/28/05 03:46 AM, TurnipClock wrote: because pork, seafood, and polycotton blends have usefull roles in society

And that makes it not-against the Bible.... how, exactly?

I was explaining how homosexuality is satans whore, pork and seafood has nothing to do with this discussion.

Hitler wasn't gay. The NSDAP was officialy against homosexuality and Hitler was married ffs.

Darn, im sorry i wrote down the wrong fucking year again, it should be 45.

At 7/28/05 04:27 AM, TurnipClock wrote: Sino-Japanese War (over influence of Korea which is when Japan really began is impirialism in China) began in 1894, 51 years before ww2 started. Lidov is an idiot.

Sorry, that should be 49 years (I was thinking of the end of the war, not the start).

At 7/27/05 06:10 AM, Lidov wrote: He also indirectly killed a lot of Japanease.

Hitler was in no way responsible for anything the japs did or lost. Japan was already involved in impirialistic action in the pacific and china years before the war started.

Stalin didn't kill 45,000,000 people, he killed more than 20,000,000 people, not oly that, but he also killed only Russians, Hitler started a world war. I don't support what Stalin did, but compaired to hitler, this guy is almost innocent (I am exaggerating).

When you add in all of the civillians and soldiers before, during, and after ww2 then Stalin's death count is around 45m. 7m Russian civillians were killed in ww2 with half being killed by the Soviets themselves. Personally i think that Tojo & Hirohito were the worst fuckers in ww2 (cough*nanjing*cough*pows*cough)..

Here is a law,never , I mean NEVER compair someone to Hitler, Hitler is always worse!!!

Mao Zedong is worse by Hitler. (So is Stalin & Tojo)

At 7/27/05 01:40 PM, Lidov wrote: If people think that Hitler was worse, then he is probably worse. Didn't hitler kill innocent civiliance too? Didn't he start a world war?Didn't he ruin Europ?

Actually Britian started ww2, it was never a world war until Britian stepped in to defend Poland.

At 7/27/05 12:04 PM, StealthNinjaX wrote: id say hitler...i mean he didint justify the reaons why he exterminated the jews during the holocaust.

He did justify what he did, it was just that his justification of it wasn't considered very friendly towards to certain folk.

At 7/27/05 02:01 PM, AshfordPride wrote: Stalin killed more people, but Hitlers motives were much more vile.

You really need to read up on communism.

At 7/27/05 07:54 PM, Lidov wrote: 1. No, Hitler killed more

Idiot.

2. There is more in being worse than killing more people, Hitler also ruined Europ's economy for a long time.

The ammount killed does matter when its millions apart. Hitler did not ruin Europe's economy. The Allies of ww1 completly ruined the German mark with the treaty of Versailles (might i add it was also a major reason for Hitler going into politics) and USA fucked over the worlds economy with their depression. Hitler helped europes economy and the war boosted it (wars require factories to make armaments, factories = jobs).

At 7/27/05 11:17 PM, mobsterryan wrote: I say Hitler. Not only did he kill thousands of his own people, he killed millions of jews, Americans, British, Russian, Italian and more. Plus he ran the counrty into debt, took away that feeling that you can trust Germany. He also bombed lots of citys. Its one think to kill your own people> Its another if you kill them and leave some with out food or water.

Thousands of his own people hey? Well Stalin killed millions of his own people. He did not run Germany into debt you idiot (if im wrong here it doesnt matter because he pursued mass industrialisation for the war effort). You should also note that only 400,000 British people died in ww2 and only 500,000 Americans died in ww2 so i fail to see how he killed millions of brits and yanks. All the major nations in ww2 bombed a shit load of cities so stick that one up your ass. You mentioned leaving people without food and water, that reminds be a of a certain communist whos name is STALIN.

At 7/28/05 12:28 AM, Camarohusky wrote:

At 7/27/05 07:54 PM, Lidov wrote: Yes he did, he started WWII, the japanease people died because of Hitler, but indirectly.

Tell me when WWII started, and then tell me when Japan made their first move into China.

Sino-Japanese War (over influence of Korea which is when Japan really began is impirialism in China) began in 1894, 51 years before ww2 started. Lidov is an idiot.

At 7/28/05 12:34 AM, pathogen888 wrote: Who says ww1 REALLY ended anyway?

Because the world wasnt involved in a single war.

At 7/25/05 08:05 AM, altanese_mistress wrote:

At 7/25/05 04:17 AM, TurnipClock wrote: LB: (Living Bible):
Leviticus 18:22
"Homosexuality is absolutely forbidden, for it is an enormous sin"

Leviticus also forbids eating pork and seafood and wearing polycotton blends; why not condemn those practices as well?

because pork, seafood, and polycotton blends have usefull roles in society

At 7/27/05 05:32 AM, TheReveiwer wrote: simple provide a case of rape by that african barebreasted tribe

African tribes wouldnt goto the police fool, and in their society would be patriarchal and women would be expected to do what the man wanted.

At 7/27/05 05:04 AM, SuburbaniteHunter wrote: My school has security guards but there useless. They only carry guns once and a while and I don't think there even loaded. So my solution is put 4 security guards in every school with mp-5 submachine guns. They could keep them on safety while in the school or even keeping a small armory in schools.

Thats stupid to have real guns in schools. Theres a chance that a student could get ahold of one, if armed gaurds were required they should only have mace/riot control shit that they would only use in extreme situations.

i read something about the columbine thing on the hlfallout forums, its a long read but its pretty good.

http://www.hlfallout..l=columbine&st=0

At 7/26/05 11:41 PM, PWNDage wrote: Hitler was an insane madman who not only managed tomatch stalin in his death toll, but doubled it. While Stalin killed those who defied him, Hitler killed WITHOUT REASON.

Stalin like every other communist dictator had anyone killed who opposed them. You are also saying that it was reasonable for Stalin to kill any farmer who didn't produce enough grain to reach quotas.

Even his own soldiers were put to death for not being araynian!! It was horrible!

Ummmm, NO! Hitler put to death the Jews, Gypsies, and Homos that could be used in labor camps. His soldiers were not put to death for not being aryan you stupid fuck, all of the undesirable soldiers were kicked out of the military in 1933-4.

So, just to put things into perspective, Hitler, 12,000,000, Stalin, 3,000,000 or so.

Now you are showing what a complete retard you are. Hitler was directly responsible for 6,000,000 deaths and indirectly responsible for 20,000,000; while Stalin was responsible for well over 45,000,000

So, look at that, and decide. Who was worse?

45m or 6m? hmmm wonder which. btw your stupid.

At 7/26/05 08:13 AM, FAB0L0US wrote: Hitler Catholic in Luthrean Germany? What? Proof?

Well, Hitler was Austrian, and Austria like most of Europe is predominantily Catholic. Hitler was Catholic, any history book will tell you that. Germany has just as many Catholics as Lutherans so you fail.

And like the Nazis had any religion at all anyway?

The nazis endorsed Christianity but did not discriminate denomonation-wise.

At 7/26/05 04:33 AM, Dranigus wrote: Stalin was doing the same that any dictator would have done, he just so happened to do so in the largest known nation in the entire world.

So that justifies what he did?

Hitler on the other hand was must more than a dictator, he was a racist and he was a completely demonic and diabolic man that wanted power and to wipe out nearly every human on the planet.

I dont see how either were more dictatorious then the other. You are being a complete retard here. You are saying that its ok to kill millions of people as long as you aren't racist, gj political correctness.

Hitler = Complete Human Obliteration

You do realise Stalin killed a fuckload more then Hitler.

Stalin did killed more people, but it was all so he could control that power he had for life.

So that justifies everything does it you mongoloid.

Hitler would have done so much more damage. He would have attacked the United States and Canada. And guess what he did attacked Britain.

Hitler did not want to attack USA, Canada, or even Britian. Hitler wanted Britian to ally with him before the war but Britian said no. He was obliged to attack Britian for declaring war on Germany. You are forgetting that Hitler's intentions are predominantly racially motivated so he would not of willingly attacked a western country unless required.

Stalin didn't attacked Britain, he didn't attack the United States nor Canada.

Germany also didn't attack United States or Canada. If Stalin had the resources he would have attacked the west because if you ever read anything about the Bolsheviks you would know that they have a deeo resentment towards westerners.

Stalin's threat is that to his own people and countries that had little protection from being turned into a communist state.

Hitler's threat is that he was going to exterminate every human that didn't fit his "perfect" design.

No he was going to get rid of any Jew, Gypsy, Homo (and others not worth mentioning)

It's likely Hitler once he had conquered the Earth, would have then wiped out all the women on the planet, to advance in his cloning research.

You're a fucking idiot, you are a perfect example of what Jewish propaganda does to fact. its like saying "oh that cute little stalin, he was right to kill all those millions because he wasn't racist but by yaweh that hitler is a racist menace"

At 7/26/05 04:23 AM, Dranigus wrote: So basically Stalin would have killed anyone that would be a threat to him, I know he is was paranoid enough to kill about 50 million people durring his whole life time, but he didn't commit suicide to excape justice for his evil actions and focus his killings on a particular group of people. Stalin's killings were out of paranoid fear, not hatrid.

Killing is killing. I would call anyone and idiot who wouldnt have commited suicide in Hitlers position.

Hitler on the hand, would have wiped out everyone on the planet that wasn't a blond blue eyed white protestant eventually if the Japanese hadn't attack Pearl Harbor that had lead the US to attack Normandy on D-Day.

HITLER WAS A FUCKING CATHOLIC, JOSEPH GOEBBELS WAS CATHOLIC, ADOLF EICHMAN WAS CATHOLIC, HEINRICH HIMMLER WAS CATHOLIC. EVEN JOSEF MENGELE AND ERNST REOHM WERE CATHOLIC. Go stick your whole protestant theory up your ass. Also the AXIS never would have won the war, USA would have given the nukes to Britian to use on Germany or they would of figured some way to enter the war and use them.

With Stalin you had to live in suffering, but with Hitler you had to live in fear. Which would you rather have?

Again you're showing what a fool you are. If you were non-jew white you had nothing to worry about with living with Hitler. With Stalin you would live in famine and consistantly fear that production rates would be increased. With both you lived in fear and suffering (but not much suffering with hitler providing your a non-jew white).

At 7/26/05 04:23 AM, Dranigus wrote: Hitler wanted to kill anyone that didn't have blond hair, light skin, and blue eyes and was a protestant.

You're an idiot. Hitler wanted to rid Europe of all undesirables (Jews, Homos, Gypsies). I also have no idea where you came up with the protestant thing but Germany's Catholic:Protestant ratio is around 1:1, the Nazi party was made up of all differant denomonations of christianity and the NSDAP considered all christians to be christian regardless of their denomonation (with the exception of Jewhovah's Witness and a few other cults).

At 7/25/05 12:27 PM, Jsphsl4204 wrote: America set a standard of freedom that has been followed by many countries...

Like the murdering of thousands of civillians? You do realise that America wasn't the first western country.

America (helped) to end the NAZI Regime...

Yeah so did 30 other countries.

America has won the Revolutionary War, even with all odds against us, proving us a militia power to this very day.

*COUGH*FRANCE*COUGH*

America assisted in creating a country in Africa.... Damnit, I foget that name...

Europe gave up all their colonies in Africa and fucked around in Africa a shit load more then America ever did.

At 7/20/05 03:21 PM, evilrome wrote: but then again hitler killed millions of people in his camps alone so it all depends on point of view

Hitler was responsible for the deaths of 20m deaths, Stalin was responsible for well over 50m.

At 7/20/05 03:33 PM, PhysicsMafia wrote: but all in all stalin was prob slightly better, although he did kill millions of his own ppl and gave communism the name and general view of it that ppl hav today he did drag russia out of the dark ages. he industrialised the country in 5 years with no outside help, which was quite a feat.

Ummm no, although Stalin began mass industrialization in Russia, he fucked everything up in the industry he created (with all the forced labor and commy commy bullshit). And anyone can industrialize a county in five years when they make the vast majourity of their country starve and take extreme ammounts of taxes.