At 4/20/06 09:52 PM, Iron_Fist wrote:

At 4/20/06 09:32 PM, CAPTOR-OF-SIN wrote: whats up with the fuckers who think disturbed is the heavyist thing thay ever heard?

I think the better question is who cares? Nu-metal is dumb, nu-metal fans are dumb, true metal rules. End of story.

I've been over this topic so many times I really can't bother to go on much longer... In short:

Disturbed = Hard Rock

Nü Metal = Rap Hard Rock

Disturbed = NOT Nü Metal

Nü Metal = Not Metal = Not to be discussed here.

Hard Rock = Not Metal = Not to be discussed here.

Any questions?

At 4/19/06 12:18 PM, -Fudge- wrote:

At 4/19/06 11:58 AM, Tuovila wrote:

At 4/19/06 11:32 AM, lamehorse wrote:

At 4/19/06 11:27 AM, Tuovila wrote: Deep Purple - Smoke On The Water

Can't get much more accessible. ;)

lolcore, but that's not metal :P

Ehem... according to Metal Archives, it is! Surprised me as well.

Does it actually say Smoke On The Water is a metal song, or does it just list Deep Purple because they have done metal?

It lists 95 recordings of the song, mostly by Deep Purple. I made a search on the song name.

At 4/19/06 11:32 AM, lamehorse wrote:

At 4/19/06 11:27 AM, Tuovila wrote: Deep Purple - Smoke On The Water

Can't get much more accessible. ;)

lolcore, but that's not metal :P

Ehem... according to Metal Archives, it is! Surprised me as well.

At 4/18/06 09:40 PM, lamehorse wrote:

on topic: uuuuh, anyone got some metal to recommend me? Preferably really accessable stuff

Well, I'd say...

Deep Purple - Smoke On The Water

Can't get much more accessible. ;)

At 4/16/06 09:45 AM, -Fudge- wrote: At 4/16/06 09:03 AM, X_Imperium_X wrote::

Only thing is, you need a credit card (balls, I know)

Or a friend/relative with a credit card who is willing to do it for you. ;-)

Or a friend/relative who doesn't know about it. ;-)

Ahem... *trying to steer the conversation off the flamewars*

Have any OTHER than Finns here heard about Lordi? They're a monster- heavy- metal (they ARE on Metal Archives) band from Finland, who made their way to the Eurovision. Now half of the people are trying to ban their entry because they're "Satan-worshipping-demons". These people really don't know what they're talking about, since one of the biggest hits of the band is called "Devil Is A Loser"...

Anyhow, what are your thoughts about judging the book by its cover, AND calling an Eurovision- band metal(is it believeable in your opinion?)

At 4/10/06 10:43 AM, deurwaarder wrote: NU METAL:
The hero arrives in a shabby Honda Civic, trys to fight the dragon but his gay baggy-pants catch fire and he dies.

I'd say the hero arrives with his "dogs", raps a bit about how his ni***s got his back and how he will rock the homies tonite. Then he caps the dragon and rides to the sunset with the princess on skateboards.

At 4/9/06 12:47 AM, TrollHammaren wrote:


It's a form of music where metal instrumentals are combined with Rap/Hip-hop vocals/elements. I don't know why the fuck people are calling bands like Machinehead,System of a down,Fear Factory,Lamb of god and in flames ''nu metal'',I don't see one element of hip hop anywhere in their music.

I agree on that, BUT...

i don't like slipknot,but i don't go around saying it's not metal.of course it's metal,it's heavy,and it's ballsier than rock music,the vocals are heavy,so i'm sure that would be a style of heavy/thrash/alternative metal,not ''poser rock''.

There you're wrong. Slipknot DOES have HipHop- elements, such as turntables. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Nû-metal, since I even listen to Slipknot at times.

For fucks sake,it's fags like you that are bringing the metal genre down.If anything,I wouldn't call bullshit music like Immortal and Cradle of Filth metal.That crap is the stupidest shit i've ever seen.Half of their fuckin career is just posing with cum paint on their face,then posing for 1000 more pictures holding shitty fake weapons and crappy clothes covered in spikes.Then they just bitch about christians and how much they suck and how they want to burn down churches,then bitch about death,then make a shitty record about winter,then another shitty record about winter.Then they do more posing with cum paint on their face.

I see what you're talking about. Still, we should let them exercise their own style, just as they should excuse mainstream metal.

That isn't metal,thats a fuckin bullshit excuse for a genre of music.

. . . You're being a bit hypocritical here, aren't you? Because that's exactly what you don't want people to say about In Flames, Metallica, etc...

Get that through your fuckin head.And don't bother arguing because i'm not ever coming back to this thread again,let alone posting in it.

Well, then you won't mind me bitching, right? Good!

The first metal I heard... must've been Europe - Final Countdown. That song just gets stuck in your head and won't go away. Dididiidiii.....didididdiddiiiii..... Soon it drives you mad.

*ring ring ring ring ring ring ring, banana phone...!*

At 4/5/06 09:12 AM, ondskapelsen wrote: Bloody hell! I haven't been here in ages. What's new?

Well, if you checked the last page I posted the stuff my band is going to play in two shows later this month. You could always come and see us if you just find a way to get to Keminmaa during Vappu. ;D We will be playing on Friday and Saturday in two different places.

At 4/5/06 08:46 AM, Kronik_The_Hedgehog wrote: One of my friend's owns a guitar, and knows how to play it. He also knows a someone who can play a Bass, and maybe a person who can play Drums. Yes, I am going to attempt forming a Metal band.

Good Luck on your quest, young padawan. It is a way of great peril but with courage and determination you can make it! Now RUN! RUN LIKE THE WIND!

...errm... so I suppose you're the singer then? What's your voice like?

At 4/4/06 03:24 PM, Goatchrist wrote: Tuovila, the list is good, except for the 4 songs in the middle ;)

Since you're listing the stuff your band will play, I'll show the songs of my band, Coffinfeeder:

Amon Amarth - Death in Fire
Amon Amarth - Pursuit of Vikings
Amon Amarth - Down the Slopes of Death
All Shall Perish - Laid to Rest
Cock and Ball Torture - Another Arch Abraded
Graveworm - Hateful Design
Kataklysm - Serenity in Fire
Kataklysm - As I Slither
Rotting Christ - Fgmenth, Thy Gift
Coffinfeeder - Consumed From Within
Coffinfeeder - Hammer to the Head

Wow... our bands should get together for a night and have a concert! There would be something for everyone, don't you think? ;D Seriously, that would be a hard venue for critics to review! :P

Some news considering my musical career...(haahaahaa!)

I'm starting to handle some pretty challenging pieces. Challenging for my voice, anyway.
I've extended my register alot this past year. Now I can pretty easily do Sonata Arctica's Broken , the song I had really much trouble with some time ago! Still, there are some pretty high notes I must get working by the end of this month, since those are needed in a couple of sings we're gonna play with my band. I guess I should ask some help from my music teacher for those really high notes... any advise you might wanna share?

And just to let you know, I've got a basic list of what we're gonna play out there:

WARNING! The following contains strong mainstream innuendos, which some elitist migh find offensive! ;) Viewer disctretion is advised.

Deep Purple - Black Night
Deep Purple - Perfect Strangers
Deep Purple - Smoke On The Water
Disturbed - Believe(damn high notes here!)
Disturbed - Voices
Metallica - Enter Sandman
Metallica - Orion
Opeth - In My Time Of Need
Porcupine Tree - Blackest Eyes
Porcupine Tree - Open Car
Rush - A Passage To Bangkok

The list would contain some Dream Theater IF we had some more strings in our instruments... :'( Still, I'm pretty happy with our band at the moment. We get to play most of the stuff we like, and that's what matters. Does anyone have any recommendations of what we could play seeing the current playlist? I know it's all pretty tame but I'm not a poser, and neither is anyone in the band. ;)

At 4/3/06 09:26 PM, setsuna956 wrote:

At 4/3/06 02:55 PM, duffeknol wrote:

At 4/3/06 01:28 PM, setsuna956 wrote:

At 4/3/06 08:24 PM, CAPTOR-OF-SIN wrote: have you guys ever heard any metal music mixed with foarms of rap. well ive seen several atempts of metal/rap songs. i dont know if i realy like the idea what do you guys think?

2 words: Limp Bizkit

/pukes

Metal+Rap = shit

they don't mix, it ends up being rapcore bullshit like Disturbed..

....
I should keep my mouth shut about this one...

...too late! I agree on Limp Bizkit being a total poser wannabe-negro-band, plus their vocals mostly make me laugh for their sound.

BUT

Disturbed is not rapcore. There's nothing rapcore in that band anymore. The vocalist sings. There's no turntable-effect. There's no gangsta-clothing. There are no black members. There's no rap-message whatsoever(whatever that's supposed to be).
I agree, the first album had something rap-like, but after that the vocalist took some
singing lessons and even did a ballad on the second album! The point is: They've matured in sound alot and therefore don't deserve the "rapcore bullshit"- label.
(and you don't have to tell me they're not metal, I know it already)

I'm so sorry everyone, but although this IS Metal Hell, we shouldn't predjudise other genres blindly, since that's what metal itself has been suffering from so long: Bad name, for no reason other than something called "popular belief".

I'm so going to get it now... -_-' Oh well...

Just heard a great doom metal song "Doom Over The World" by Reverend Bizarre. I was told, however, that the band usually plays a lot slower. I gotta find out more about these guys... Anyone know them?

...and, by the way, that flame war of band listings back there WAS a bit cruel...

Hello everyone. If I recall correctly, I was allowed in some time ago, but haven't really been posting, mainly for the lack of things to say.

Anyways, I have a band called Misguided, which has gone through some changes lately. First of all, we used to have two guitarists, but yesterday we kicked out one of them for his lack of motivation and inability to compromise OR train the same songs others did. So he parted ways with us, and now we will do our first two live gigs with only one guitarist. Not that we NEEDED more, it's just a much more fuller and richer sound with two guitars.

In the news regarding Misguided also: The training on TWO DISTURBED SONGS nearly affirmed! We first decided to train and play "Prayer", but our ex-guitarist just trained some AC/DC and didn't show up to rehearsals(he was skiing), while our other, more skilled guitarist had to study for an examn and had accidentally trained "Believe" in its full. Now, we are still going to keep Prayer on our playlist AND add Believe there as well, if I believe my vocals are up to the task, since Believe is quite a high-note song to sing.

On a side note, I love Disturbed's vocals! No screaming, only a little groaning(which can be passed if needed, since it's only there to give atmosphere) and still very powerful singing.

What's up here? Anybody dead? Anybody with a courtcase? Anyone at all?
I feel like talking weird things now so I'll just pass on this box of muffins. Here, have some.

Has anyone seen Lykaki around lately? I haven't seen a trace of her for weeks! Just wondering...

At 3/23/06 01:48 AM, ondskapelsen wrote:

At 3/22/06 07:49 PM, Suudsu wrote:

At 3/22/06 07:34 PM, The_Ghoul wrote: (Log is a half point, and Slipknot is a total zero)

That's a fucking must, let all know...

Why everybody here hate SlipKnoT?

Because they're supposed to. It's a very "cool" thing to do and no-one want's to be different from the others. It's called group behavior, which is usually seen among sub-cultures as well as masses(see 'teens'). If you can't fit the bill, others will instantly see you as an inferior being. Hating Slipknot is a part of being a true metal head, thus, gaining an equal position in the group. This is how any other person would see it. As for me, being yet another sheep in the herd, I must say it's because they're not metal, their music sucks and they've got smelly feet. ^^

I'm sorry for double posting, but...
Since joining Metal Hell I've been trying to find out "what metal is"... And why certain bands (you all know what bands *coughslpkntetc.cough*) are not classified as metal even though they have the message and heaviness in their music. Now I think I've come across one idea I could very well agree with. This was taken from another topic, but the poster never mentioned the source, so I have really no way of knowing if it's originally from Metal Hell itself:

METAL:

"Metal is best defined by it's use of complex guitars. It can range greatly, bands with heavier bass/drums are usualy considered heavy metal, stuff with dual guitars at a fast pace is grindcore, etc. etc.

This is the reason why bands like Slipknot are NOT metal. Jim plays several chords, but only in a few songs does he change. This isn't to say he's a bad guitarist, it's just to say that's all the songs call for. Mick is just 'noise' guitar, if you've seen them in concert you'll know he plays very little variations. Yet, Chris and Shawn both play their custom precussion, along with Joey's drum, which gives SK a very heavy, primal sound. Few bands achieve this sound, and Slipknot is very hard to categorize because of this, but a general name for it would be just plain ole hard rock.

Bands like Nightwish use the complex guitars, mixed with classical vocals and a VERY skilled keyboardist xHe is one of the nastiest out there, if you know anything about keyboards) to do much like slipknot do, and give themselves their own unique sound. But, because the basic feel is that of a fairly fast paced, complex guitarist, it can be generaly categorized as metal.

The key to categorizing bands is breaking down their formula. You find what the center of the band is, what the supporting pieces are, vocals, etc, then look at the band. Korn is in no way metal, because of the expansive bass lines they use, Disturbed focuses heavily on it's vocalist and the rest of the band uses a basic heavy rock sound to support it." -Not by me.

So there. I think this might have some truth to it, don't you? As I'm sure everyone already knows , I'm a huge fan of Disturbed and had some trouble understanding the weird quircks of categorizing hard/heavy music. Now my tormented soul might finally find some peace...

....okay.. go on and dump this theory... If you can...

Whoa... I was gone for one day and suddenly all Metal Hell broke loose. I guess you only get conversation when someone makes a controversial statement...

And, BTW, I'd really LOVE to hear a Hyrule Black Metal song! ^^ Is it going to have lyrics? I couldn't possibly imagine satanic lyrics to such a song... o.O' Well, anyhow, I wanna hear that thing once it comes out!

At 3/15/06 06:47 AM, ondskapelsen wrote: Tuovila! Long time,since we met... how are you? ^^

Been busy putting together and maintaining a rockband. The name's official now, btw: "Misguided" the problem is it's the kind of name that's with the highest probability taken somewhere around the world... :P Anyway, it doesn't tie us to any particular genre which is good since we do everything from Rush and Deep Purple to Opeth and Metallica. And, of course whatever we find enjoyable to play(Disturbed!). ^^ There are six of us and everyone has a bit different taste. The drummer is crazy for Dream Theater, for example. But I bet all the elitists here will soon summon the dark forces against me if I still keep talking about such un-trvv matters. After all, we're not full metal but also hard rock and prog. :P Pardon me.

At 3/13/06 03:58 AM, LoStIe wrote:

favourite bands are:

metallica,

They're good

iron maiden

classic, what can I say?

disturbed,

My favourite! Not too metal, I'm afraid...

trivium,

can't find them too interesting, really

static x,

see trivium, but better still

arch enemy,

haven't heard

stratovarius

eagleheart!

and couple others

yea, me too :P

Seems you got in! Welcome!

At 2/27/06 11:09 PM, -Buddhist- wrote:

I hear Dream Theater and Opeth are good, and I also have heard good things of Strapping Young Lad from Revolver magazine.

Dream Theater and Opeth are great! Especially if you have a band to play them with ;) And if you like them you might also like the bands Sonata Arctica and Entwine.

I like people willing to try out different things. ^^

About Rammstein, I like them. That might not say too much considering my taste in general but still, I like them. They're funny and if I spoke German I'd surely sing along...^^ This weird thing just happened last night. TV was on. There was nothing good on so I started surfing the channels(too bad Finland only has about 5 channels plus global ones) and then I hit MTV. They were showing this show "The Most Awesomely Bad Metal Songs Ever". Now, the title is bad as it is but then there were the commentators! Most people were comedian/writers and useless actors commenting on what real metal is. All they had to say was "That's not metal! Metal is carnage/satan worshipping/drugs!" And the next thing they said was "you can't say that in a song!"

Hearing this arose the big question again. What IS metal? In my opinion, metal is HONEST above all things. That means acting all "Boohoo I'm so sad because mom didn't buy me that cellphone!!1!one" is not metal, since it's overdoing. On the other hand I have hard time believing bands who propose to be all EVIL, inhuman and against everything. If that was true then wouldn't they be killing everyone outside instead of giving interviews and making record deals? My opinion of metal is music that gives the listener something to think about, be it heavy or calm(Opeth) by sound.
Singing about love can be metal (contrary to several opinions I've heard) because it's a real thing that affects people in many ways. It can give you misery, happiness, disappointments or feelings of vengeage. The thing is not overdoing it, but being honest. What are your thoughts?

You were talking about the histories of your music tastes here? I just might enlighten you about my dark past...
Well, it all started when I was born. Then, for a couple of years nothing happened. My parents were a little worried for me barely talking when I should've been babbling all the time using some kind of baby lingon. They were about to crash into a tree once I finally, on the backseat of our car, opened my mouth and started SINGING! And so my musical tale began! My childhood just went by listening to Abba, parody/comedy songs and Elvis. Not too metallic. I was repelled from metal music for a long time because the first kind I heard as a child was some kind of groaning/shouting stuff which I got scared of. Well, years passed and I was at the 7th grade, I think, when I started watching MTV at school. That's how I got into mainstream pop music in a way. I was introduced to Gorillaz, The Offspring, Linkin Park and other bands like that. I'd say the strong conservative musical influence of my parents was a big reason for my late awakening to other music. At this point I also loved the soundtracks of movies and videogames. Later on I got a friend who gave me some Disturbed and System of a Down, which still remain as my favourites. Through those bands I got more interested towards metal in different forms, and I could say it was a bit of a shock to hear neither of them was considered real metal by metalheads... By now I still listen to everything mentioned above, since I was honest to myself and listened to the music I liked, not the music that was pop at the time. I still remember why I liked each genre and enjoy all kinds almost as much. At the moment I'm looking into two things, REAL metal and progressive rock/metal the most.

So, I hope you have some understanding for my weird taste now... or then not...^^'

AHEM! *builds up his battle-aura* Did someone mock my homecountry here?! Glad to hear that's not your personal opinion, since it's mostly false and misleading information.For example, I happen to know several attractive girls just from my school alone! >:(

As for having values, I believe values are made by people to make living easier and being honest and true to yourself and others is a value in itself. I hate people who pretend to be better than they really are and judge others for being honest. That's also what I think about Bush. He starts wars saying God told him to... I wonder, is he any better than the terrorists, mixing religion with politics?

And as for metal, IMO, the different subgenres with different believes are there for a reason, and that is expressing yourself and your believes. I'm really not into the rape-your-dog-with-a-firehose- stuff, because I don't believe it. The only time I like it is when it's for fun. I love Bloodhound Gang because they have some really extreme fun lyrics which I can enjoy without telling people to masturbate to missing children! I getting carried away here... a-friggin-gain! But at least I tried to bring my POV to daylight... not sure if anyone understood, though...

At 2/7/06 12:29 PM, ChainsawCharlie wrote:

At 2/7/06 11:59 AM, someoneudontknow1 wrote: hey, Im seeing opeth on the 21st

What that means?

Se tarkoittaa että hän menee katsomaan Opethia 21. päivä. Toivottavasti en ymmärtänyt väärin sitä mitä sanoit... :P Sori jos niin kävi....

Great.... -_-* Nearly two pages of talk about weed... it's about music here, guys! Isn't there a Stoners' Club somewhere for this kind of conversation...? Try not to get too carried away, ok?

At 2/3/06 02:10 PM, Warheim wrote: If liberating my mind means liking recent CoB albums, the vocals on all the albums, and disliking Dave Mustaine's singing then I'll just stay narrow-minded, thanks.

Don't by any means dislike Dave Mustaine's singing! That would be narrow-minded, wouldn't it? My point was, calling something "crap" or "shit" or anything like that just because you don't like it is just as bad as someone calling your favourite band "shit". Keeping in mind some people actually seem to like CoB's recent albums... Otherwise, they wouldn't sell, right? I'm getting all annoying here, so I'll stop. I just don't like to get misunderstood. *peace and stuff ;P*

At 2/3/06 11:41 AM, Warheim wrote:

At 2/3/06 10:43 AM, Kronik_The_Hedgehog wrote: Megadeth is ok, but the vocalist's voice annoys me. VERY much. "Hey me, meet the real me!"

Dave actually tries to sing and he's pretty good at it, it's people like Laiho that need to shut the fuck up and hire a real frontman. And make a non-shitty album next time, but that's too much to ask from them.

Can't help being side-tracked, new Bodom pisses me off. They get Roope Latvala and make a shit album right after... what a waste.

Liberate your mind...You're so narrow-minded so narrow-minded, so liberate your mind.
That's for both of you. ^^