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At 6/3/13 10:31 AM, thisismyboat wrote: Store-bought cards (I'm assuming you mean things like Visa gift cards) work anywhere that would accept the normal credit card.

I was not aware of their existence actually *facepalm*

Either way, this thread as already proven to be rather useful on a personal level, so, hey, thanks everyone :D

At 6/2/13 08:30 PM, Luwano wrote: Unlike PayPal, PaySafeCard is not just an account you make if you wanna receive money from customers. You have to be a merchant or something and work out a contract with PaySafeCard and become one of their "partners".

At 6/2/13 09:06 PM, M-Vero wrote: You can't just set up an account with paysafe.

Unlike paypal, where you can just set up the account, link it to your bank account if you'd like to, and you're done
that's it. You are open for business.

Paysafe is a contract, and like any contract there is likely a few things you would need to meet, likely one of those is a consistent income from your "shop" which you cannot guarantee with commissions. Sometimes you can get a lot of them, sometimes you can get none, sometimes life gets in the way, unlike a shop where you can send it to a printer and its done, it's just not viable

Yeah, I assumed as much. Trust me, I totally get it but I just wanted to make sure (and out of curiosity honestly).

At 6/3/13 02:06 AM, Nempatriarch wrote: Me, and all my artist friends in my circles, accept paypal because it's safe and easy. And it's not that we don't accept other payment methods, its more like we never needed to, so we dont really know them, let alone know how they work.
I did find a transaction that paypal wasn't an option so money was sent via western union. It costs more, but is reliable, instantaneous and doesn't require any card/special documentation.

Yeah, I definitely understand. I mean, if PayPal works, why bother messing around with an alterantive system that's an extra hassle?

At 6/2/13 08:30 PM, Luwano wrote: Is it possible for you to explain why you can't use PayPal? If it's a problem with your country, I read good things about "moneybookers", but I never used it myself.

At 6/3/13 02:06 AM, Nempatriarch wrote: Why is paypal not available to you? That sounds strange to me

Mainly because store-bought cards are my only means of buying stuff online (hence PaySafe for something like Steam).

At 6/2/13 09:06 PM, M-Vero wrote: Secondly if you can use paysafe cards, why aren't other store-bought credit cards a viable option? those work on paypal fine. I've used them several times before I was able to get my debit card.

I'll definitely look into those then. I wasn't aware of any sort of store-bought card that's compatible with PayPal. At least it's worth a shot, thanks :D

At 6/2/13 07:51 PM, Aigis wrote:

At 6/2/13 07:36 PM, TheOmniPuss wrote: Everything taken into account, as artists, what are the reasons involved in denying such methods? I'm actually curious (and I'd appreciate any possible workarounds honestly, if there are any).

Anyways, weird or not, I thought it was a topic worth having and a question worth answering, so thanks :)

I assume the vast majority of the money you can make from commissions would come from people who have access to a credit card or debit card or whatever is necessary for paying people online.

People who don't have access to that sort of thing by and large don't have all that much money to be spending on commissions.

I guess. I dunno though, I'm talking about myself here but I'd happily (and easily) order some commissions. The issue isn't the money, it's the methods available for me to use it. Again, I'm aware I'm a minority, so it wouldn't really benefit the artists all that much, it just kinda sucks, you know? :/

Hey everyone,

So, this might be a bit of a strange topic, but I was thinking about something regarding comissions and the payment methods involved, as both a viewer and a possible future consumer (not really an artist myself).

Basically, everyone knows that PayPal's, or services along the lines of that, are the standard but, as someone that unfortunately has no access to those services, I always felt it was annoying that I couldn't order something like a comission, in spite of the fact that I definitely want to.

There are other services that involve purely cash, like PaySafeCard (for example, Steam has that...fortunately), or even basic online gifting (heck, I've seen people mention Steam gifts) and I always wondered "Why don't artists accept these alternative methods?".

I assume there are costs involved in setting up a service like PaySafe but it's still limiting possible consumers. I'm aware that I'm possibly among a small group of people, since pretty much everyone seems to have access to the standard services, but it still made me wonder.

Everything taken into account, as artists, what are the reasons involved in denying such methods? I'm actually curious (and I'd appreciate any possible workarounds honestly, if there are any).

Anyways, weird or not, I thought it was a topic worth having and a question worth answering, so thanks :)