107 Forum Posts by "Sundans"
At 7/8/13 08:34 AM, Calamaistr wrote: Its your expectansies you need to lose, not your motivation.
What are "expectansies"?
At 7/8/13 08:39 AM, Blackhole12 wrote: I want to interject here to point out that a lot of times, you will get conflicting criticism from people. Some people will threaten to shoot you if you take out the guitar riff, the others absolutely love it. You have to rely on your own taste and intuition, and not just be a carpet for critics to walk over. Learning when and where to listen to criticism is a skill that must be learned.
To add to these words of advice, it is also a bad idea to take reviews personally. You can't let all of your motivation depend on how well you are received by the community.
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Scrapped Project? by SundansWe don't really know how we wanted to complete this... so we stopped.
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- 5.00 / 5.00
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- Song
- Genre
- Dubstep
- Popularity
- 24 Views
We don't know whether or not to continue, nor do we know how to. We are hoping to get recommendations and feedback with this brief scrap...
At 7/3/13 04:44 AM, kreativity wrote: does anyone know where i can find good vst sounds cause i cant find any good ones and i want some that i can hear them before i download them
Search for them on the internet. Just type "Free VSTs" and see what pops up. Watch tutorials for you DAW, and they will also occasionally label the VSTs they are using.
Here is a place to get you started.
Reviewed this:
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Star Trek: DS9 - Revamped by AndrewRG
My re-arrangement of the theme to "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine".
- Score
- 5.00 / 5.00
- Type
- Song
- Genre
- Cinematic
- Popularity
- 32 Views
Would like this reviewed:
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Sundans - Summer Fields by Sundans
A track we made envisioning a gradual pan across a summer field.
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- 4.75 / 5.00
- Type
- Song
- Genre
- Drum N Bass
- Popularity
- 335 Views
Look at you trying desperately to justify your being utterly inept. Moderators represent the administration as a whole, so when they act like morons, they make the entirety of the team look like bad. Grow up, you shallow-minded prick. It isn't all about you.
At 7/1/13 08:40 AM, midimachine wrote:At 7/1/13 07:48 AM, Sundans wrote: Anyone expecting to jam out to a Hip Hop song, but is then barraged by a fuck-ton of wobbles, dumbass.that's a bit rude, pls compress your negative emotions
The irony in your statement is amusing.
At 7/1/13 07:41 AM, midimachine wrote:At 7/1/13 04:14 AM, Sundans wrote: Have you ever listened to Glitch Hop? It doesn't fit underneath Hip Hop, it is far closer to Dubstep.no1cares
Anyone expecting to jam out to a Hip Hop song, but is then barraged by a fuck-ton of wobbles, dumbass.
At 7/1/13 07:11 AM, kreativity wrote: so um where will i get stuff like instrument sounds and stuff
You will search online for them. There are plenty of premium and free sample packs for you to find. Plenty of tutorials to watch in order to make the sounds you want on your synth plugins. The internet will be where you spend a lot of your time when you are searching for usable samples.
At 7/1/13 12:01 AM, midimachine wrote:At 6/30/13 10:57 PM, Shambles wrote: For an example:neuro and drumstep can just go under dnb
Glitchhop
Drumstep
Neorufunkgrid
glitch hop can go under hip hop modern or something i dunno
use the tags, jeez
Have you ever listened to Glitch Hop? It doesn't fit underneath Hip Hop, it is far closer to Dubstep. The issue is that Glitch Hop is a full 40+ BPM slower than Dubstep, so it already sounds very different from it as well. Glitch Hop doesn't have a really big production base so, while it is a very unique genre, it doesn't really need its own genre classification here.
The other two are subgenres of a subgenre, so like really bro?
At 6/30/13 07:45 PM, Fleshbag wrote:At 6/30/13 07:34 PM, Sundans wrote:Glad you are such an optimist :DAt 6/30/13 06:56 PM, Fleshbag wrote:I would like to think that those artists read their reviews and determine whether or not the WIP is worth finishing.At 6/30/13 03:55 PM, TacoMilagroIII wrote: I see it in a lot of song titles, but only here. I never see it on soundcloud or alonetone. I'm assuming it's an acronym. Can someone explain? It's bugging the crap out of me.It means unfinished crap. It will probably never be finished and it's posted just to get "reviews". Fucking internet.
I see you have one WIP uploaded and that review is damn helpful :D
Are you finishing it up or did you move on to something else?
Yeah, I try (though my partner says balls-all to optimism).
I know, that review is pretty great! I mean, one person out of my entire fan-base of FIVE commented. I patted myself on the back.
We are finishing it, believe it or not.
At 6/30/13 06:56 PM, Fleshbag wrote:At 6/30/13 03:55 PM, TacoMilagroIII wrote: I see it in a lot of song titles, but only here. I never see it on soundcloud or alonetone. I'm assuming it's an acronym. Can someone explain? It's bugging the crap out of me.It means unfinished crap. It will probably never be finished and it's posted just to get "reviews". Fucking internet.
I would like to think that those artists read their reviews and determine whether or not the WIP is worth finishing.
At 6/30/13 07:18 PM, Calamaistr wrote:At 6/30/13 07:00 PM, Sundans wrote:Honestly, i have made a hundred tracks fueled by such thoughts, but theyre not attached to any albums, just randomly uploaded. I suppose a good example would be most of my newyear 8bit works, but ok thats a collection.At 6/30/13 04:38 PM, Calamaistr wrote:Clearly your poetic words have sought you out to make them a song, mate! ;DAt 6/30/13 04:02 PM, Sundans wrote: Calamaistr, make a song outta that and you'll get the epiphany you require.I let music come to me, i never seek it out. ;)
eh, man i have so many uploads when i think about it i get dizzy, anyway i have made alot based on this madness. When it came to me.
So we have listened. You need someone to vocalize your feelings in a grand ballad! Convert thou 8-bit glory into an orchestral master piece with a vocalist resembling Enya and achieve thine epiphany, good sir!
At 6/30/13 04:38 PM, Calamaistr wrote:At 6/30/13 04:02 PM, Sundans wrote: Calamaistr, make a song outta that and you'll get the epiphany you require.I let music come to me, i never seek it out. ;)
Clearly your poetic words have sought you out to make them a song, mate! ;D
Reviewed:
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Mechannibal by TacoMilagroIII
Crunch crunch sizzle
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- 2.84 / 5.00
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- Song
- Genre
- Techno
- Popularity
- 28 Views
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Sundans - The Observer by Sundans
Chillstep track featuring vocalist RomyHarmony.
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- 4.28 / 5.00
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- Song
- Genre
- Dubstep
- Popularity
- 381 Views
At 6/30/13 02:47 PM, Bosa wrote:At 6/30/13 02:41 PM, Lachi wrote: got what i mean?Yeah, you're right. Your words have truly spoken to me today. I will no longer abuse my authority.
Well, it is not like you have to anymore.
At 6/30/13 03:55 PM, TacoMilagroIII wrote: I see it in a lot of song titles, but only here. I never see it on soundcloud or alonetone. I'm assuming it's an acronym. Can someone explain? It's bugging the crap out of me.
They are quite common on Soundcloud if you delve into the depths of underground music production. Professionals don't typically post WIPs because it would go against their record label's contract. But yes, the above poster is correct. WIP = Work in Progress.
Calamaistr, make a song outta that and you'll get the epiphany you require.
At 6/28/13 11:54 PM, midimachine wrote:At 6/28/13 02:26 PM, Sundans wrote: If the individual giving such a low rating for it cannot justify his or her rating, then she should not be rating it.elaborate. what is it about a low score that inherently warrants justification? does a high rating warrant similar validation? maybe you would like all scores to be accompanied with a review, but then you'll just end up with a lot of junk reviews or people not voting at all. believe me, the AP does not need an even lower signal to noise ratio with reviews.
besides, in the case of a low score i think keeping your justification to yourself is far more polite. like i said, most reviews accompanying a genuine 0 are not going to be helpful.
If the producer happens to reply to reviews like that, then the artist will not maintain any viewership. Simple as that.people who make genuinely shitty music generally have difficulty maintaining viewership anyway.
the ones who don't will have a sycophantic following who'll respond to low-scoring reviews in exactly the same way as the author. i won't name names.
Yes, any judgement requires justification. If you are willing to persist in your cynical outlook, then the Audio Portal is screwed either way. You either have artists that purposely 0-bomb music, with no justification, for the purpose of forwarding their tracks to the front, or you make the few reviews and ratings that will be given out [i]mean[/i] something. Which is better? Constructive criticism or a dirty popularity contest?
A viewer who rates it 0 should explain why it is rated 0. Was the mixing poorly done? How could the artist improve on it? Was the mastering badly executed? How can the artist better the rendering quality? Was it repetitive? How does one add variation? If the rater has absolutely no suggestions or justification to assist the author of the track, they should not say, or rate anything at all. This is basic etiquette.
Yes, and if the artist who makes poorly-rated music reacts in a hostile way, they will definitely not improve either. Reviews are for the artist to learn about what they did wrong and what they did right. We do not have a large following, at all, and yet we like to hear what listeners have to say so we can improve. Neither one of us (Sundans) are hostile towards constructive criticism. If any artist's fans happen to be so entirely engrossed in their enjoyment of the music that they find it their duty to respond to negative reviews, that is their prerogative. I am speaking about author-reviewer interaction.
Reviewed this:
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[Knox]Legacy (wip) by Knoxius
Legacy
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- 4.37 / 5.00
- Type
- Song
- Genre
- Cinematic
- Popularity
- 371 Views
Would like to see this reviewed:
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Sundans - Vas Normandy by Sundans
The Normandy is the home of Shepard and his crew...
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- 4.21 / 5.00
- Type
- Song
- Genre
- Dubstep
- Popularity
- 160 Views
At 6/28/13 12:11 PM, midimachine wrote:At 6/27/13 02:27 PM, NikeTheSword wrote: What would be the downside of forcing a review when voting 0-1?because not every 0-1 vote is a bomb, and when you genuinely think something is that bad it's a waste of your time to spend any amount of time writing to the author for any reason.
<insert personal drama about zero-bombing here>
any review accompanying a 0 vote is just going to be useless vitriol, and the exceptions are almost invariably going to be met with "omg ur wrong my music is da best fuck you".
a captcha for 0 votes is probably a better solution. but i'm still opposed to that, on principle.
If the individual giving such a low rating for it cannot justify his or her rating, then she should not be rating it. If the producer happens to reply to reviews like that, then the artist will not maintain any viewership. Simple as that.
Reviewed this:
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[Knox]Canyon Song by Knoxius
Canyon Song
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- 4.24 / 5.00
- Type
- Song
- Genre
- General Rock
- Popularity
- 335 Views
We'd like this to be critiqued:
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Sundans - Vas Normandy by Sundans
The Normandy is the home of Shepard and his crew...
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- 4.21 / 5.00
- Type
- Song
- Genre
- Dubstep
- Popularity
- 152 Views
At 6/27/13 04:12 AM, Yoshiii343 wrote:At 6/25/13 07:24 AM, idfpower wrote: for example for metal songs there's only the "heavy metal" tag available - which says nothing: is it a thrash, death, metalcore, etc song? Same goes for Electronic. As a result song labelling is inaccurate.try tagging your audio uploads. seriously, the admins can't stuff every single genre known to man.
also, consider the "metal" category (or any other category, really) as an umbrella term
- last, but probably the most important aspect: the scouting process(coupled with the lack of more in depth control & statistics) is very confusing and poorly explained. There should be some clear simple steps to complete that would guarantee a positive result (as in publishing your work). Sitting on your ass waiting for someone to notice your stuff is not the way to go because on one hand the ranking/display system is messed up so not all songs are listed, and on the other hand it's down to ppl preferences/liking - which is highly subjective.post your audio in the audio advertisements thread, the review request club, the R4R thread, whatever. if you want to be noticed, you gotta do something about it. someone would be bond to find something interesting in your work (from all your legitimate promoting), and will scout you.
Other music hosting platforms have very large, specific categories for music genres. In addition, why should we have to sacrifice one of the four limited tagging spots for a genre that should have been included? This is a thread for developing ideas for improving the Audio Portal, not telling other members that we should simply suck it up and deal with the current system.
Oh, the audio advertisements thread? Because a massive amount of people obviously don't post their tracks there and leave, simply expecting a sudden influx of viewers without interacting with other producers. There is no encouragement for audio producers to scout, search, and interact others. Entice them with some form of reward.
One more thing. Just to address your previous spout of ignorance, 0-bombing is indeed a major problem. Even if a portion of the low ratings are genuine, and not some ploy to get your own art to the top, we would think there would be some sort of constructive criticism. Seriously, it seems you have a total disregard for how difficult it is for the majority of producers to get noticed.
Hay, we are going to change our submission from Summer Fields to Vas Normandy. Thanks!
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Sundans - Vas Normandy by Sundans
The Normandy is the home of Shepard and his crew...
- Score
- 4.11 / 5.00
- Type
- Song
- Genre
- Dubstep
- Popularity
- 142 Views
Ah, we were seriously going to avoid participating for several reasons... But screw precautions!
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Sundans - Summer Fields by Sundans
A track we made envisioning a gradual pan across a summer field.
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- 4.67 / 5.00
- Type
- Song
- Genre
- Drum N Bass
- Popularity
- 245 Views
A new WIP of an upcoming Techstep/Neurofunk project.
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Chora Revitalized by Sundans
A minimal progressive house track with club overtones.
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- 0 / 5.00
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- Song
- Genre
- House
- Popularity
- 3 Views
New minimal house track.
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Warp Travel (WIP) by Sundans
A brief electro-house track preview.
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- 0 / 5.00
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- Song
- Genre
- Dance
- Popularity
- 4 Views
ERMIGERD A DANCE TRACKWTFRGK? No, but really. An WIP of a new dance track.
We think different genres of music definitely effect the length of production. Something like Complextro or Glitch would take longer than an Ambient track, in our experience.
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Sundans - Vas Normandy by Sundans
The Normandy is the home of Shepard and his crew...
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- 0 / 5.00
- Type
- Song
- Genre
- Dubstep
- Popularity
- 1 Views
Full version of Vas Normandy.
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Sundans - Curfew by Sundans
The Citadel is now under an emergency curfew...
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- 0 / 5.00
- Type
- Song
- Genre
- Cinematic
- Popularity
- 1 Views
Full version of Curfew.
