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Its probably not, but cos you dont like something someone says about something that you like, and because

COS YOU NEVER BOTHERED READING IT.ALL THE WAY THROUGH

you saw shit as being racist when its not. Not from me anyway.

Thats the point being made.

Yeah, you're right, hip hops image does have its bad points, but making more gangsta shit is not going to save it. Its blatantly time for the oldskool party music to make some kind of revival, like mc hammer with less cheese maybe.

At 8/17/06 05:52 PM, darkkloud wrote:

say, hes not replied recently, do you reckon hes played the wrist violin, seriously.

thats a good one actually. no, ive been busy trying to get a job.

TY, but you're still a cunt.

bah, that didnt even make ME smile.

Fool simply doesnt get it, its not hip hop in general i dont like, its HIM.

Sure, maybe i'm just presuming that you're gonna rap about livin in the ghetto, guns and money, but maybe thats cos you showed yourself to be stereotypical:

If you dont like someone, they must be gay?

also, calling me a poser just cos i dont suck up mainstream shit is ridiculous.

You telling me ,that you, have never heard of the track shot the bwatty boi? My HALF JAMAICAN friend told me about this track. and writing a track about going killing the bwatty boi is not a new or outlandish thing, theres loads with that theme.

who's really the poser who knows fuck all about culture, never mind "black" culture.

sure, maybe you live in the ghetto, maybe you are actually not some little white kid, but it doesnt make a slight bit of difference to me.

At 8/17/06 02:06 PM, pitbulljones wrote: I've just read this full thread and what a piece of shit it is. You all talk like you ACTUALLY know something about hip hop yet all you are saying is conjecture, there's nothing here with substance at all.

actually, there is.

hip-hop isn't just about guns or violence or pimiping ma bitches out in my ride with gangsta's and ho's. fucking hell man, real hip-hop came from the blues, onto scat, via

no, its not. but heres a FACT.

50 cent. ex crack dealer. been shot nine times. Now hes famous and makin money talkin a bit about his past life, bitches, and partying. If this kind of bullshit doesnt glamorise violence i dont know what does.

:funk then disco. thats the true side of hip-hop, the soul brothers man. Until you listen to your heritage as a 'black' musician you can not ever formulate an opinion as to where you are musically now.

modern day hip-hop is total trash, it really is. show me one artist in the last 5 years who has truly defined hiphop, what it was and what it is now? I can't think of a single person.

irony.

Eminem and D12. They talk about shit other than fly bitches and gangsta shit, and ONE OF THEM STILL GOT SHOT DEAD.

Breakbeat, another deritive of hip-hop came from guess where? FUNK. it samples james brown beats to fuck.

anyways go listen to some jurasic 5 or de la soul, decent hip-hop artist's who actually made fine quality tunes. then come back and show your appreiciation for your history. otherwise just fuck off and shut the fuck up.

wanker

haha.

Got to love how someone who thinks they're gangster and cool is accusin me of disrespecting an entire genre. Gansta culture is actually bringin down the whole of humanity cos its all about violence and "ho's"

And if you think i dont know what i'm talkin about when some ragga/dancehall, artists like beanieman n that. Theres a track called shot the batty bwoi.

its brilliant, i'm gettin called a racist just cos i hate violence and stupidity in music.

Maybe someones tryin to troll me, but i cannot be trolled. I'm here entirely at my leisure, schooling you in how it is.

Alright, then since you're so big and hard, name me some rap artists and hip hop style artists that HAVE BEEN FUCKING GUNNED DOWN.

heres some, jam master j
proof
tupac

nuff said.

By the way, if you swear that times in an argument, it means you've already lost.

At 8/17/06 09:59 AM, BeAtBrEaKeR187 wrote:

At 8/17/06 08:03 AM, SpamWarrior wrote: i go on about gays cos you called someone a faggot you dipshit. and if you've never heard a RAGGA, NOT REGGAE YOU TURD say kill the bwatty bwoy, then you have no clue about the dark side of your music. You are a know nothing poser.

and no, i'm not disrespecting a "culture". Culture isnt about guns and violence and poinltess hatred.

i'm disrespecting YOU, cos you're a poser who is probably some 13 year old white kid who lives in a posh house, yet talks like he lives in compton.

and then you have the stupidity to try call ME racist, when you clearly know nothing about me and dont come here often at all.

I'm not anti black, i'm anti pointless violence and hate.

SHORT ANSWER IN CAPITALS COS YOU'RE TOO DENSE TO READ AND GET WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

YOU'RE A PRICK.

haha look here, u say IM a know nothin poser, O OBVOIUSLY DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT WHAT UR TALKIN ABOUT U LITTLE DICKHEAD! u ARE dissrespectin an entire culture u prick, rap aint jus about gunz and violence, shallow fuckin basterd, FUCK U

FACT: the singer from type o negative has the biggest hands in rock.

I reckon he could actually pick me up my grabbing the top of my head.

i go on about gays cos you called someone a faggot you dipshit. and if you've never heard a RAGGA, NOT REGGAE YOU TURD say kill the bwatty bwoy, then you have no clue about the dark side of your music. You are a know nothing poser.

and no, i'm not disrespecting a "culture". Culture isnt about guns and violence and poinltess hatred.

i'm disrespecting YOU, cos you're a poser who is probably some 13 year old white kid who lives in a posh house, yet talks like he lives in compton.

and then you have the stupidity to try call ME racist, when you clearly know nothing about me and dont come here often at all.

I'm not anti black, i'm anti pointless violence and hate.

SHORT ANSWER IN CAPITALS COS YOU'RE TOO DENSE TO READ AND GET WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

YOU'RE A PRICK.

I heard rumour he got himself on a dnb mix cd, not sure how official this cd was tho tbh, or if in fact it actually happened.

haha, i just wasted ten seconds of your life.

good response, 10/10 for effort, but i believe he was reffering to you and dawei, cos none of us have seen you before. Well i havent, and i've been practically living here for the past fortnight or so.

At 8/17/06 12:02 AM, Cerrax wrote:

At 8/16/06 06:22 PM, Dawei wrote: who the heck are those guys? no wonder no one knows who they are, and if it's on cassetee, isn't there already a pause between albums?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Dougan
Rob Dougan is probably the most talented and the hardest working man in the music industry right now.

http://en.wikipedia...wiki/Type_o_negative

If you don't know who Type O Negative is, you really need to get out more. Their unique blend of slow goth rock and death metal is well known.

And no, both of the albums I was talking about are on CD, so an entire track of silence is placed on the CD and in the tracklist on purpose and titled so they obviously have some importantance

Anything goes well really, apart from hip hop it seems. still not sure why that is yet.

ones that do well and are big are metal trance, techno and dnb, plus, just dance, which is probably what you expected.

Cubase is a programme thats at a so called "industry standard", theres others like it, so its really a matter of preference.

basically, if you're getting something in that price range, it'll probably be equally as good.

To some, FL is better than cubase, and its smaller and probably cheaper.

Cubase is best used for recording direct live audio and mixing samples, so its a matter of what you can and want to do. By best used i dont mean its the best, just thats the best reason to have it.

If jarrrrrydn was a pirate, he'd get made to walk the plank cos he'd try raping the towns and pillaging the maidens.

At 8/16/06 11:31 PM, GoreBastard wrote:

At 8/16/06 11:17 PM, SpamWarrior wrote: Anyone here read jasper fforde?

Did you just say, "Read"? READ? I don't do that kind of thing.....

Yeah well i got bored of life, and someone said this book would make your head explode, so i gave it a go.

YES GORE, I MEANT YOUR HEAD, AND NOT MINE, YOU BASTARD.

bwa ha hahah

At 8/17/06 03:05 AM, x_kinetiK_x wrote: Here's a question for you to think about... it's been on my mind for a couple days now.

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First off, assume that one has available an extremely powerful supercomputer. When I say extremely, I mean beyond what you could even imagine.

Then this computer is given a task:
Combine every single possible combination (including the absolute slightest variation) of instruments, pitch, rhythm, lyrics, playing style, etc. to create an amazingly huge number of songs. With enough time and a powerful enough computer, every song that could ever be created by a human will be created by this computer.
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Now I ask you two questions:

1-Do you believe this is possible?

Only if computers can be taught the concept of infinite creativity.

Theres computers that make abstract art already, and probably somewhere in the music industry theres a machine that creates insta-hit boyband songs, the basic melodies at least.

Also, aphex twin ALLEDGEDLY wrote some software for himself that auto generates melody lines using what he has on his pc, so this is even more evidence of the possibilities if true. Thing is aphex admitted to lying in interviews :S but is that true :P

And
2-How would this affect:
-Artists?

Clearly composers would be well out of a job if everything could be created by an uber copmuter. Performance wise tho it'd create more material for people to play than is even slightly imaginable.

-Listeners?

Probably not at all, no change to them.

-Mankind in general?

The economy would shift, artists would probably get even less money. If this is in the future live performers could possibly make money off rich people who want to hear "period" music done in the traditional fashion.

Let me guess breakbeater, you're gonna write some tunes and they're gonna be about cappin people, gettin bitches and money, and tellin yet another life story from the ghetto.

And if you write some ragga you're gonna be all about kill da batty bwoy.

Its a fucking stupid, self stabbing in the face attitude to homosexuality. Just be glad that men that dress how women like, and care loads about emotional problems arent straight. Gives the average straight man more chance. I could go more into the issue, but i'm trying to get you to shut the fuck up and admit you're wrong on stuff, and not totally destroy this thread.

Commercial hip hop is a fucking joke. crack dealers get to make money from tellin little kids about how it was for them, not realising or caring that the little impressionable, stupid little bastard kids will then see sellin crack as a cool and tough mans way of makin money.

Yeah, i like hip hop, i just dont like this gangsta wanksta shit. Gimme some motherfucking grandmaster flash, or old skool ll cool j any day. the former is slick and the latter is fucking hilarious, but still good. And mc hammer.

3 - 1 bets you're thinking of saying soemthing like "but these were commercial once, back in the day"

and if thats your argument, then you just dont get it and i pity you.

My point is, well, i dont really care, and i dont care about hijacking threads when it comes to schooling people with stupid attitudes. Its clearly more important, and if its not, may Mod strike me down and give me a week long ban.

I dont know what we did, but we probably deserve it

Anyone here read jasper fforde?

aw dude, :D

I'm not celtic enough to get that one, can you explain it plz.

At 8/16/06 10:42 PM, flashmonster666 wrote:

At 8/16/06 02:39 PM, BeAtBrEaKeR187 wrote:
blah blah blah nigga blah blah blah

You're a fucking dumbass, grow the fuck up. Get some fucking taste in music, maybe learn to play a real instrument perhaps? Or better yet jump off a bridge. Fucker.

i dont like the most recent tunes that much, but thats still a stupid, and stupidly harsh point of view.

Rap music, let's see. Retards that can't play an instrument and they can't sing, so what the fuck are they doing in music? Sucking by the sounds of it.

Well I guess i'm being kind of judgmental, not ALL rap is crap, just most of it. And not ALL rap is talentless, but it is all tasteless.

nah, wrong. The first rap was a man reading poetry over music, look it up.

White kids acting black was never cool. You're just a product of a lack of parenting and education. I pity you.

I dont care for the white kids too much really, but to say that someone's not allowed to like hip hop cos they're white is racist to both black people and whites.

plus your statement itself is actually racist to black people.

At 8/16/06 03:54 PM, BeAtBrEaKeR187 wrote:

At 8/16/06 02:54 PM, Erkie wrote:

At 8/16/06 02:39 PM, BeAtBrEaKeR187 wrote:
man why the FUCK u ina hip hop convo sayin that type of shit?! this shits our lives, u ingnorent bitch.

oh and refferin to the topic itself.. is it a must i need an introduction?

~holla~

It makes people like you.

yep sure duz, faggot

yeah good one, you go with that conformin to stereotype.

fuck this shit i'm gonna start listenin to that jewish hip hop guy someone told me about.

At 8/16/06 02:49 PM, Watercolour wrote: No, but seriously. There's no style in hip-hop anymore. Biggie is dead. 2Pac is dead. Gangstarr doesn't produce anymore. Now it's all 808 kits. That sucks. All the songs sound the same now. THERE IS NO STYLE IN HIP-HOP ANYMORE. Def Jux is still bringing style though.

Nah i disagree, tho the last time i heard fresh hip hop sounds was in a british skatepark about 6 years tho.

I reckon its still got somethin to offer, just the classics are gettin rarer and rarer.

women

you cant live with them.

and you cant live with them.

nah thats good man, only there was a lack of exploding nuns,

At 8/16/06 06:43 PM, WinTang wrote: Who the hell are all these people?

I know, normally new people say something spectularly stupid like: "where can i find out about music programmes", get flamed for it and leave

At 8/16/06 01:31 PM, Noe3 wrote:

At 8/16/06 12:41 AM, shizeet wrote: I guess you've never heard of John Cage's 4'33...

The only reason his song was even acknowledged was because it was played in a big audience, who would then make noise sort of creating an abience, if the audience had been completly silent then everyone would have criticised him...

Nah, cos if they managed to achieve actual silence, they would've heard their own heart beating and blood pumping through their ears.

Silence is a relative value. Tho its one thats got a range of values most people agree on.

i keep waiting for chronamut to say

mmmmmmm. sack.

:)
LOL.

At 8/16/06 01:14 PM, Love_Hate_War wrote: Wow, i go out for one day and i miss a full on flame war, gotta love metalheads with their short tempers.

haha, got to love it when people think i'm actually pissed of.

say, hes not replied recently, do you reckon hes played the wrist violin, seriously.

and,

omg mhb is back from his... wherever he went to.

and as for you LJ, well, I HATE YOU, YOU, YOU,

...
YOU!

At 8/16/06 11:13 AM, Rucklo wrote: Yo, was that you who fucked that dead lady in the crypt then? Cause a few days ago they caught a necrophile in mid-sweden, he´s in his 40´s and apparently his taste is so bad it died LOLOLOL

no seriously, they DID catch a necrophilia a few days back!

(old tastless joke warning)

i used to be a necrophile but then the rotten cunt split on me.