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At 10/6/14 03:14 PM, FurryGod wrote:

2. It's explained right at the start that Ripley had been floating through space in stasis for 57 years after the events of the first film. The colony had been settled within that time period.

That still doesn't make any sense.

The original ship in Alien 1, the Nostromo, was warping faster-than-light back to Earth after mining a distant planet. During FTL travel, crew members are kept in a state of deep sleep which reduces their metabolic processes, so that time essentially does not pass for them. They were awoken from their deep slumber halfway through their journey to respond to a signal originating from the planet with the Xenomorph.

After the first film ends, the Nostromo has been destroyed and Ridley is in this state of deep sleep. As the only survivor of the events of Film 1, no one has told Earth or Weyland-Yutani about the xenomorphs. Since she could not have told Earth about the events 57 years prior, the past 57 years have been spent colonizing known planets. She also has not aged, but the world around her has. And the progress of the human effort to colonize other habitable planets has continued in her absence. She didn't die, she slept for 57 years while Earth kept settling and mining other planets. Other planets were settled during the 57 years she was in hypersleep. Because she was asleep for 57 years, no one on Earth knew that the planet was a dangerous place. During her 57 years of deep sleep, people tried to settle the planet.

Ooga booga booga.

At 10/14/14 02:16 PM, Viper wrote: No he didn't. He was in the fucking Bahamas and there is evidence of Vikings being in North American over 400 years before Columbus was even born. Up in fucking Canada. And even then I think theres theories of Asian explorers being on the east coast before even that. But I don't know if they've ever found any definitive evidence supporting that.

At 10/14/14 07:29 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Word. Shift the recognition to Leif Ericson Day, which nobody noticed this year. Hinga dinga durgen.

At 10/14/14 07:32 PM, Manly-Chicken wrote: Leif Erikson Day is a thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Erikson_Day
Yes, really.

You three miss the point entirely. It's not about being the first to do something technically. Even if it were, there is evidence of African explorers traveling to South America to influence the cultures of the Mayans, Aztecs, and Incas. Or, technically, the first Eurasian discovery of the Americas was by the ancient Asian ancestors of the Native Americans. Or the Pacific Islanders who may have settled here before them. Or the unconfirmed pre-Bering cultures who may have been slaughtered by the Bering Bridge settlers.

The point is that Columbus caused Europe to begin exploring the New World, and that directly resulted in the founding of the society which bore us all into this world.

Not only that, but the proponents of the Leif Erikson theory cite loose interpretations of oral history as their source. I mean the actual proponents, not the edgy cool internet macaws who champion the last six sentences they read. There isn't any concrete evidence. The theory is a mainstay of white supremacy groups whose goal is to paint history as a series of white conquests.

At 10/14/14 01:22 AM, Freaki-boy92 wrote: oh well, maybe if it was actually my country i'd have put more research into it, but no i'm a dirty filthy foreigner who you guys seem to love stomping all over in some form or another

So you want us to agree that your ignorance and ethnocentricity is justified because you've decided that America is a whitewashed Euro-descended intolerant empire? Maybe your opinions would change if you studied more history without focusing so much on your own. Then again, America sees itself as a child of every nation, which might explain why we're taught the histories of every one.

US of America filled a power vacuum left by several warring empires who had the misfortune of devastating each other's militaries and populations. We invited international peoples from all nations to come to this land and make a new home without fearing retaliations for their religious beliefs, rejections of dynasties or kingdoms, or the threat of instability. We gave people the power to choose their own beliefs, build themselves, elect their own leaders, and it worked.

i was going on information that i believed to be correct from sources that i have looked up and subsequently forgotten all the details of. maybe i shouldn't have presented it as fact but it's too late to go back now.

I did the same, and used your name "John Americk" instead of "Richard Ameryke" (the Welshman). Haven't bothered to look up the surname type, but I think in right about the town being the namesake.

and the origins of their country? why not celebrate the indiginous peoples instead? they're the true originators of the country, not some italian fatarse who did nothing except land in a place, fallaciously call it india and insist it was india to the day he died in a bid to prove that the earth was pear-shaped. yep, that's what he was out to prove. he was convinced that the earth was pear shaped and nobody was gonna tell him otherwise, even when evidence contrary to that was staring him in the face

Maybe you don't understand how this "celebration" of Columbus Day goes on. Some people have the day off, many discuss the history of the settling of America, and it's an excuse for shops to discount their old wares before Black Friday and Christmas time. It's not a joyous occasion.

columbus wasn't a hero, he was an idiot, a cretin and a fool. don't celebrate him, celebrate the goddanm natives.

There are no heroes. Should the film 300 be appended with an essay detailing that the events at Thermopylae haven't been accurately portrayed? Of course not. People whose legacies are significant because they shifted the course of history, like Christopher Columbus, can still be recognized for doing great things despite their alleged buffoonery.

How would you suggest that America celebrates its natives? Should we start a holiday which focuses on the importance of the role of the Wampanoag in welcoming the earliest settlers to New England? They saved Pilgrim's lives, you know.

Ugh. No.

At 10/13/14 11:00 PM, Freaki-boy92 wrote: except he didn't, many many people reached america before him

The UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMORS that Scandinavians had a long history of trade and travel throughout the Americas doesn't count as The Two Halves of the World Finally Acknowledge the Existence of Each Other. That's why the Columbus Voyages were significant. It doesn't matter that tribes told tales of white men or whatever. It doesn't matter that Scandinavians told tales of a vast North. There wasn't a sudden massive shift in international trade which resulted from anything prior to 1492.

a viking named leif eriksson reached america 400 years before

And he did absolutely nothing with the knowledge of the tiny slivers of land discovered beyond the vast cold North.

famously, amerigo vespucci reached america before columbus

Mainland America, you mean. Columbus was still the first successful European to voyage across the Atlantic.

less famously (unfortunately) there was a welshman named john americk who also reached america before columbus- little known fact, america was not named after vespucci, as conventions of the time dictated that if a nation was named after you, it'd be your surname- obviously it's america and not vespuccia. your country is not named after an italian, it's named after a welshman.

Ugh, no. This entire paragraph is wrong. The main points of contention in understanding the origin of the name America yields the roots as being either one of two mapmakers, Amerigo Vespucci or John of Americk (a town in Wales), or a native Central American word meaning "Golden Hills" which roughly equates to 'americ'.

edit: Amerrique Theory
TLDR: Name comes from the Mayans, Mapmakers Amerigo Vespucci and John of Americk become fascinated with the discovery because it seems providential that the new world would share their names. Nominative determinants yadda yadda.

so all that we can attribute to columbus was starting the long-standing american tradition of taking credit for someone else's work...

Or the modern American tradition of pretending to be intellectual in order to rewrite history as an apologist? "Sorry, Your Futureship! We'll reach Japan and bring you a gold history asap!"

oh and also genocide, can't forget the genocide.

And the interbreeding which saved the gene pools which are often said to have been eradicated. Elizabeth Warren, senator from Massachusetts (an Algonquin word for the people living by the large hill of Boston), is part native. Many Americans who pass as "white" in society are actually a half, quarter, sixteenth, thirty-second, sixty-forth Native.

And the reparative land laws, which have made many tribes into the wealthiest casino owners and land rights holders in their respective states, while still enabling them to live within the protective limits of the United States.

so yeah, there is literally no reason to celebrate columbus.

Except, ya know, to give people 24 hours each year to sit down and learn about the origins and complexities of their country.

At 10/13/14 02:34 PM, Natick wrote: wrong

leif erikson sailed to north america 492 years prior to columbus' voyages. columbus just had better luck sailing to the carribean several times and that's just counting the europeans who imperialized this place and stole it from the natives. some historians argue that the chinese admiral zheng he may have discovered north america due to a detailed map found in a bookstore dating back to 1418.

The arrivals of Leif Erikson, Zheng He, and the ancient Pre-Clovis travelers didn't cause the incipient founding of the United States. Columbus did.

Remember that celebrations cover many topics; not just pleasant ones. Births, weddings, deaths, successful court appearances, paroles and visitations in prison, and even battle reenactments are celebrations of things we need to acknowledge.

We don't celebrate Columbus because he was a perfect man who staved out across the Atlantic to find the New World and share the land with the locals. Though it did take courage to set sail on a journey which would ultimately have been a gamble to all European knowledge. We do it because he was a normal man whose legacy resulted in the birth of our nation, many of our own births, and the transformation of the entire world.

At 10/13/14 03:30 PM, Avery wrote: This is what the world is coming to.

This is how the world has been for 250,000 years or more. Have you not yet noticed the sheer number of complete idiots around you? If anything, the situation improves every time one of these chimps climbs on the wrong branch.

At 10/11/14 07:51 AM, Amaranthus wrote:

At 10/11/14 10:00 AM, NGPulp wrote:

At 10/11/14 10:18 AM, Monster-64 wrote:

Wow. What a bunch of fucking morons. It really doesn't surprise me that nobody passing through decides to stop and make an account to talk to this community anymore.

At 10/10/14 10:49 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: until they restrict travel to and from West Africa you should be but Obama is being a retard as usual, I to live in the Midwest (Minnesota) so it will probably get here last.

GOOD LUCK EBOLA CHAN I LOVE YOU!

Holy fuck, this post is hilarious. You couldn't make this shit up.

First off, do you know anything about Minnesota? Your home state is home to America's largest west African population. In order of risk for ebola being spread to the United States, Minneapolis is literally the first spot on the list. The CDC has been actively appealing to community leaders in MN to discourage West African Americans from trying to save the surviving members of their families from the outbreak by offering them refuge In Your State.

You are closer to the projected Ground Zero for an outbreak than any other NGBBS poster. You would diminish your chances of catching Ebola by flying to fucking southwest Mali.

At 10/10/14 10:57 AM, Piper wrote: "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."

Sounds like some fuzzy wuzzy worshipping moron who doesn't understand why we withhold our emotions in order to use animals as food, resources, labor, and test subjects. PETA founder, maybe?

"Nobody will ever deprive the American people of the right to vote except the American people themselves and the only way they could do this is by not voting."

At 10/10/14 12:44 AM, NeonSpider wrote: Any English teacher worth their salt would fail writings like any of the above examples.

No. Do you come from public school in middle America?

They would correct the sentence for readability, point the student toward Noam Chomsky, and give extra credit if the student showed initiative by delving into linguistics.

@Cordyceps re: Garden Path Sentences

Awesome! But are there any Garden Path Paragraphs? Garden Path Short Stories?

Bollocks innit. Sod off ya focken ponce.

Doesn't do a thing in America. Gets you slugged in the UK and Independent Republic of Scotland.

Phobiabitch
Wiper
Jackoff013
SubjugatedVileAss

I hereby disavow Xenomit.

I'd like to make fun of Pakistan, but it's not even a country. It's a fucking acronym.

At 10/7/14 10:03 PM, Feoric wrote:

At 10/7/14 05:36 PM, Profanity wrote: Zero. Tool use allows Homo sapiens to literally upgrade to a new visual sensory organ with better perception than an evolved eye every year.

That's irrelevant to the topic of random mutation; it's quite clear that the ebola virus is not going to evolve on its own into an airborne virus from incentives deriving from nature alone, seeing as the virus is thriving and cases are increasing rapidly in West Africa.

You can keep saying that it's not going to happen. Despite that, it being entirely possible, it is a scenario which should be kept in the discussions. People who are paying attention to any arguments about the nature of infectious diseases should never be lead to believe that the experts are 100% in control of the situation or they are 100% safe from the disease. It's just not true. Not only are there unaccounted for microscopic colonies of viruses left behind after every cleanup, but there are carriers who have been infected yet never show symptoms because their immune systems are strong enough to deal with the intrusion. These events take resources—public funding and public support—to fight. And every dollar spent to insulate our health against these dangers is a downpayment toward more effective procedures to diminish the next threat.

Similarly, through tool use Ebola Virus already manages to use airborne particles to transfer between pigs and primates. The phenomenon of droplet transmission requires up to 3 meters of clearance of fluids for safety measures.

This is true, but there is a very large distinction between 'airborne' and 'droplet.'

Sure. The physical difference is about 17-30 nanometres, given that the length of an unfurled Ebolavirus averages 970 nm and the droplet diameter needed for droplet transmission is 800 to 1200 nanometres. The linguistic difference is that people focused on histrionics for mitigating hysteria have a clever way to differentiate between flying viruses as scary and ones floating around in microscopic balloons as benign.

At 10/7/14 07:00 PM, Profanity wrote: Whether viruses meet the criteria needed to classify them as living things, prokaryotes, or eukaryotes is a major point of contention because they don't fit into the standard model of biological organisms. They use eukaryotic and prokaryotic structures and many could not survive without them. The younger you are, the more likely you are to have had a biology class which discussed viruses as living things which blur the line between organic chemistry and biology.

You're correct in saying that there is contention over whether or not viruses are living organisms, but there is no contention within the scientific community over whether or not viruses are eukaryotic or prokaryotic. They do not fit the definitions to be labeled as either or. That much is settled.

That part is wrong unless you begin to agree that organelles and the majority of the DNA in the supergenome of both eukaryotes and prokaryotes is in fact influenced by the work of viruses, retroviruses, and viruses which have been successful enough to integrate as organelles.

Getting back to Xenomit's point though, it's not impossible for a virus to mutate to become airborne.

Correct: it's not impossible, but that wasn't his point; his point was that it was likely to become airborne. This is a factually incorrect statement. My issue is not whether or not it is possible, but rather whether it is likely. It turns out it is extraordinarily unlikely, and the only people who claim otherwise are quacks. It's not a debatable issue.

Xenomit's point is that it's an important issue. He adds emphasis by exaggerating. And it is an important issue. Either we will see a naturally mutated airborne pandemic in our lifetimes or we will see one which has been manufactured by malicious actors. Electorates should be made aware of the issues surrounding biological warfare before they become statistically relevant.

At 10/7/14 06:46 PM, Feoric wrote:

At 10/7/14 06:35 PM, Xenomit wrote:

At 10/7/14 06:33 PM, Feoric wrote: That's funny, because in my highschool biology class I learned that viruses are neither eukaryotic or prokaryotic

Then either your teacher or book was dead wrong

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=are+viruses+eukaryotic+or+prokaryotic

Whether viruses meet the criteria needed to classify them as living things, prokaryotes, or eukaryotes is a major point of contention because they don't fit into the standard model of biological organisms. They use eukaryotic and prokaryotic structures and many could not survive without them. The younger you are, the more likely you are to have had a biology class which discussed viruses as living things which blur the line between organic chemistry and biology.

Getting back to Xenomit's point though, it's not impossible for a virus to mutate to become airborne. And it's more likely in large outbreaks with quick incubation and transmission times. HIV isn't nearly the same sort of disease; it can lay dormant for a year before it starts to affect the health of the host. America and Europe aren't necessarily at a risk for large outbreaks, but they should be sending troops to west Africa, supporting the efforts of Médicins Sans Frontière, donating to Oxfam, and listening to WHO. An abundance of caution will lessen the chance of a pandemic plague.

At 10/7/14 01:11 PM, Feoric wrote: How many random mutations are necessary before humans grow a functioning third eye?

Zero. Tool use allows Homo sapiens to literally upgrade to a new visual sensory organ with better perception than an evolved eye every year.

Similarly, through tool use Ebola Virus already manages to use airborne particles to transfer between pigs and primates. The phenomenon of droplet transmission requires up to 3 meters of clearance of fluids for safety measures.

Nik Wallenda is also crazy religious, in addition to the casual crazy.

If you listen to him during any of his performances, he says "thankyoujesus" any time his foot meets the rope. It's more ultracondensed faithshitting than any million dollar megachurch in Texas. I will bet that a Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, Jewish, or Atheist tightrope walker wouldn't have the same popularity in America.

At 10/6/14 12:46 AM, Xenomit wrote: That dude in texas wasn't the first person in the US to have ebola

Am I the only person who actually pays attention to the news

Is this the part of the thread where someone says "nobody was claiming that, shut up xenomit" and then you purposely misinterpret every other word in order to launch a pitiful argument which lasts only until Stafffighter steps in to tell you both to stop?

At 10/5/14 01:48 AM, Shauna wrote: You're all forgetting what Ebola does to the body. It doesn't matter if you have health care. You can't get better from ebola by eating chicken noodle soup and drinking absurd amounts of orange juice.

What she said. The mortality rate is between 25% and 90% depending on the level of healthcare provided. Even with ZMAPP1, a blood transfusion from a survivor, hundreds of gallons of electrolytes in clean water, and a team of nurses, your chance of dying is 1 in 4.

At 10/5/14 02:39 AM, Knights wrote: Yeah, GoryBlizzard's fucked.

Sure, that would be one type of person who is at risk.

Or anyone who shares a treadmill with someone who is infected.
Or a sweaty toilet seat from a person sweating from the illness.
Or shares an eating utensil which hasn't been cleaned properly.
Or a tattoo needle.
Or a sweaty towel.
Or a water bottle.
Or a doorknob.
Or through wastewater from an ebola patient being treated.
Or anyone whose clothing gets splashed with vomit from an infected individual using close quarter transportation like an airplane or subway.
Or who uses a toilet which has been vomited in recently.
Or a scavenger animal contracts it from sweat, saliva, blood, vomit, etc from a carrier and then transmits it to a local population of predators.

Or were you purposely omitting "sweat" and "saliva" from your list because you want to make transmission seem like it's impossible in polite (white people) society?

At 10/4/14 05:46 PM, Knights wrote: It's also not airborne and unless you touch the fecal matter, vomit or blood of someone who has it, you won't get it.

There are strains of Ebola which are airborne. The thing is, the strains we know of all evolved in laboratories which study the evolution of potentially devastating diseases in order to protect us from them. The reason why large outbreaks are a concern is that more hosts increase the chance that the wild virus will mutate to become airborne. It's not hard for a virus to suddenly sprout cilia which keep it aloft after a cough and a sneeze.

At 10/4/14 05:48 PM, yurgenburgen wrote: in 2005ish the big thing that was going to wipe us out was "avian flu" (also known as bird flu)
then it was Swine '09
now it's eboola
fuck it all. Scaremongering is all it is

You need to realize that the world is a serious place with serious threats, Giuseppe. We aren't stocking up on DuPont CPF4 hazmat suits and trying to cure diseases which haven't evolved in nature yet because of vague superstition. Influenza killed 5% of the human population from 1918 to 1920. H1N1 killed a quarter of a million. You're being kept safe by the preparations made in response to what you dismiss casually as "scaremongering".

At 10/2/14 08:05 PM, orangebomb wrote: Or are you going to blame the liberals again?

This wouldn't'a been a problem in Conservia. Fuckin' A, man. If Dallas wasn't so damn fulla Libs, the disease woulda been cured yesterday.

I think it's over. I just loaded 30-or-so NG pages and. Haven't seen a single Cookie Jam ad, haven't been redirected a single time.

Thanks Tom, Brend, Charlton Heston, and last but not least: @Supergandhi64 -- I wouldn't have the courage to be annoying as hell without your guiding spirit, Old Friend.

Haha Reddit? Oh man, I remember that website from back in the day! Good to see it's still alive and kicking. I used to spend hours doing generic Reddit things on Reddit. Haha! Tell me is Reddit still Redditing? How is Victoria handling all those AMAs?

At 10/2/14 03:06 PM, TomFulp wrote: NOW it is supposed to REALLY be fixed... Still seeing it?

Literally redirected as I read the word "seeing" in your post, and then as I was writing it in this reply.

Yesterday, the URLs I was being redirected to were cpadna1.com and then ad-x.co.uk, then the App Store. Today, they're switching between that and cpadna1.com to qualifiedpass.com, then (something)yield.(something), then something like "woogtrack", then the App Store.

I'm having a harder time getting CookieJam ads in rotation, though. It's split between CJ and two other ads.

At 10/2/14 10:11 AM, TomFulp wrote: Update: CPMStar says this ad was snuck in by a third party provider who has now been kicked off the network. Let us know if it happens again though!

Thanks for keeping this thread open. It's always good to be reminded that NG has an understanding team who aren't a conference room full of suits.

It's still happening whenever Cookie Jam ads occur. The only difference is that CoolSavings ads (which do not redirect) appear in the bottom banner some of the times you load a page. It was CJ 100% of the time all yesterday.

At 10/1/14 04:46 PM, larrynachos wrote: Didn't you just make a thread about this?

I will gladly accept full responsibility for breaking the Rules in order to bring a resolution to this problem. As a 100% mobile user I guess I shouldn't be here anyway. And I can't use the site in this state, so I may as well earn the ban by addressing this issue.

Newgrounds isn't and has never been a tacky website which accepts this sort of malicious content from its advertising partners before.

Kind of ridiculous to lock a thread like that before any users can confirm that they've experienced the same thing.

1. It's not a client-side issue. It's a page redirect. You are being informed that an advertisement is maliciously diverting traffic from your employer's website.
2. You may not have optimized for mobile, but your advertisers have. They're serving mobile gaming ads to your mobile users. And I can guarantee that mobile users make up a significant portion of your traffic. If not the majority.
3. The timing is exactly 5 seconds after the page stops loading. Not 30 seconds. This makes the website unusable.

For mobile users:
Blocking ad-x.co.uk and cpadna1.com doesn't seem to keep the offending script from loading. And it could only damage the site's revenue to use an ad blocker. Has anyone found a workaround?

Box. Yes. And hasten forward quickly there.