190 Forum Posts by "NoNameProphet"
At 3/22/03 08:15 AM, Ted_Easton wrote: No, NoName you'e made an excellent first impression here, and I hereby dub you worthy of posting here.
Only time will tell if you become a Regular.
Woo. Thanky. *stops running.. gets grabbed by the mob*
NOOO YOU TRICKED ME!
[Ted] Gullible, naive fool. *snicker*
[Fade Out]
At 3/22/03 06:20 AM, Slizor wrote: It's not being anti-soldier, it's just not supporting them.
Oh being anti-soldier supports the soldiers alright... because if you hate them you don't care if they go to war, and then they get to do their job and make some monayyy.. The mercenaries would be out of a job if everyone loved them too much to hire them. Heheh..
At 3/22/03 08:13 AM, Ted_Easton wrote: Anime-
Hentai-
Manga-
Sure thing.
Anime - A distinct form of animation originating in Japan.
Hentai - Anime Porn. Pretty simple.
Manga - Think anime, but as a comic. Manga was the start of it all.
At 3/21/03 12:15 PM, Niteshade wrote: I have two younger brothers, who are 15 and 12. I'm 18.
Wow, they're all 3 years apart, and there's 3 of them... Your parents work like clockwork don't they? ^_~....
At 3/22/03 02:30 AM, Ruination wrote:At 3/22/03 01:48 AM, NEMESiSZ wrote: Dead soldiers don't destroy tanks.Another poignant analysis by private no-class.
Saddam hasn't destroyed shit, this war is boring.
And another pointless personal attack.
At 3/22/03 02:19 AM, UNpossible wrote: With a rather bleak future at mind, we must do something about all these idiotic mess ups. Does anyone have a solution?
Mine: All the intelligent people fly away to the planet of Blisstonia. Noted for its high levels of bliss. (Just kidding)
Wake everyone up with something filled with mass-death... People tend to respond to death. Look at 9/11. Mass slaughters are remembered forever. Crusades.
Maybe if this nuclear war thing went through, there could be a silver lining. Whoever's left might see how stupid and greedy everyone is and learn from it... until we take it for granted again....
Nope, there's no saving humanity. It's due to our shitty nature. Sorry.
At 3/22/03 01:23 AM, jazz_mazter wrote: 5. Feed him to his own starving people.
LOL... That's a good one. Make it slow too. And salty... starting with the toes. Would they eat him raw? Ewww... Sure it'd be more painful but, damn, I certainly wouldn't want anything of Saddam's alive and in my mouth.
Do non-regulars get anal-raped for posting here? Just wondering.... *whistles*... *looks around*... *hears the pounding footsteps of the approaching mob.
Aww Crap. *runs*
At 3/22/03 01:56 AM, mysecondstar wrote: tsk tsk. you're getting the info from a guy that said the US was aiming thier couples missles on the first day of bombings at taxi drivers. yea...right...
Oh but it makes perfect sense... the last place you'd expect Saddam to be making a getaway in would be a taxi car, so it's the perfect thing to use. Everyone knows that.... wait... then it wouldn't be the least expecte..... Okay, not defending the flip-side this time. I'll just stay out.
you are honestly delusional enough to believe that cartoons cause people to form opinions based on cartoons? you see the reason they are uniformed is because they stubbornly want to believe what they want to believe without any proof of it. in that case it is called ignorance.
Oh no, I do not think they form opinions based on cartoons. The mood and mindlessness makes such a thing close to impossible. The effects on the individual I believe are practically at a subconscious level.
At 3/22/03 01:16 AM, mysecondstar wrote: wait a second, you're telling me to learn MY history and MY cuture? i'm from asia. i'm asian. i've read manga since i started reading. i'm into my own culture. i think i'm probably a better authority on the subject than you are. i stated that not too many people care because it is the truth. regardless of how good or viable the topic, the fact of the matter is it isn't some of major concern.
I wasn't saying you specifically. Just loose speak to anyone in particular. Just because you know of the topic and the history of both countries doesn't mean everyone does.
And if it isn't a concern don't waste both of our time by telling me it isn't of major concern, right?
At 3/22/03 01:12 AM, ichbincow wrote: and you belive in santa clause and space aliens too huh?
-.- ... Don't patronize me, fool. Prove me wrong. Debate it. Do something other than think you're greater than me.
At 3/22/03 12:55 AM, mysecondstar wrote: who's flaming it? generally, most people don't care.
Well then sit down and learn a bit about world history and culture, eitherway it's a good topic.
At 3/22/03 01:01 AM, mysecondstar wrote: i honestly think your imagination is running away with you. your conspiracy theory seems very far fetchesd, and Commander may be right in saying that you are watching too many cartoons.
It could be alot further fetched, trust me. If you can keep an open mind it can make some sense. If not, prove it to me with evidence rather than calling me crazy.... That's what has happened to countless inventors and theorists before... You might even be saying that's just dellusions of grandeur but it isn't. Those who are obviously wrong, can be proven to be so.
Here's everyone's problem in this debate, you're trying to find a black and white answer. Answers like this rarely exist in the world, if at all. Sometimes it is right to descriminate if you're hiring for a certain theme (Porn,Restaurants), and sometimes it isn't right (when there's no reason for it. IE. No blacks allowed to be camera men O,o).
This has been said before in other topics but discrimination and assumptions CAN be just things, and they CAN have their uses. There is no black and white.
I've given examples with descrimination. Want an example of useful assumptions? Lets just look at what is constantly ravaged by the public, blacks being picked up by police more often.
Well, if you've got their society in all the latest music videos TRYING to portray themselves as 'gangsters' and all-around 'bad-ass mutha-fuckas'... then that would arise some suspicion if you're a store clerk and you see a black guy in very thuggish clothing coming into your store at night. It's only reasonable to be a bit wary, and there's nothing wrong with it. As long as you don't judge too unfairly and whip out a shotgun and demand he leave the store right away =P (yet again, no black and white there).
The police probably do the same thing, it's called common sense. Yes, they will watch black thugs and white punks closer, there's nothing wrong with that. It's called common sense. Common sense in itself is assumptions. Another reason blacks are watched a bit closer is due to the fact they are a very different minority, they naturally stand out. This is a bad way to descriminate, but it's hard to help it. For some people it's like walking into a room of lab-coat scientists and white walls, and seeing a butterfly =P. People are distracted by things that are different. These people might stand out more yes, but they're only going to get into trouble if they're doing something wrong... if they still get into trouble, then yes, it's racism, and it's wrong.
I've said alot of things here, and alot of it is going to be a confusing blur, but if you get anything out of it... just realize that there are never any black and white situations, and that it isn't 100% wrong to make assumptions. I only consider it racism if a member of a group is discriminated against when he/she hasn't actually done anything 'wrong'.
At 3/21/03 02:30 PM, House_Of_Leaves wrote:You haven't seen the BBC coverage. From 7am (apparently, I don't wake up 'til, like, 10) to midday, it's WAR: LIVE!!! And still the BBC is counbting Blair as some big mover and shaker, and actually airing his drivel, despite the fact it's as far off the mark as the average US missile strike. £5 a hospital or residential area is hit by next Thursday.
This war is rapidly turning into a money machine, just like everything else does.
I would comment further, but both of you have already perfectly covered my opinion on media and the war being used as a money-machine. Hats off to both of you, and I look forward to your future posts =P
At 3/21/03 03:33 AM, House_Of_Leaves wrote: It disgusts me to see what sort of image the recent pop divas have created for our young girls. It's impossible to stop celebrities like Britney and Christina from growing up, though. They aren't dressing any differently than other female celebrities. They are, however, rolemodels for these girls...when is where I believe the parents are at fault. Where the FUCK do these kids get these clothes? How could their mothers LET THEM DRESS LIKE THAT?? Gah.
That being said, Avril Lavigne. I don't like her music, I don't like -her-, her attitude, and she's just...not someone that I'd admire. I did, however, watch the Grammys and the interview they did with her. She said something that I respected. She refuses to sell sex, and dress like a whore. She doesn't feel like it, she won't do it. It's not her.
Even if I don't like her music, I'd much rather have MY daughter dressing like HER, rather than the other sleazy bitches. If I had a daughter. Y'know. Just an example.
I perfectly agree with you. The problem isn't that these people dress the way they do, it's the fact that they influence the younger generation. The younger ones don't realize that they are not as old as their rolemodels, and shouldn't be acting like that.
Although I don't really support their sluttish ways at all, it's just so dirty, and idiotic. Too much focus on what they call love, and then the kids grow up without any good rolemodels to promote thought on religion, politics, and humanity. It's one of the reasons I enjoy Incubus, Tool, APC... It's crazy-fun but it often has meaning too. =P
The same thing is happening with young males, only with attitude. Nota few times have I overheard 7-10 year olds speaking in wiggertalk like a 13-15 year old.
Here's a excerpt or two.
"Yo, man, we're gonna fuckin fuck them up. He thinks he can touch my bitch?"
"Fuck you white-boy(from a white boy, to a white boy) you're gonna fuckin die. I'm gonna stick a blade in ya, fucker."
It's beautiful whenever I see anyone else realize it to. Girls are becoming whores, and guys are becoming "gun-toting hip-gangster wannabees" (Quoth Maynard). It's pathetic.
Sometimes I wonder if they can see beyond their own bullshit. I don't know about you guys, but it radiates people trying wayyy too hard to be cool. They're MASSIVE sacks of hot-air. Fucking wastes of life. Trash of the god damn human race. Totally ignorant morons.
It makes me sick when I see that our society only continues to plant these perverted seeds.. which will grow into becoming the garbage of the future.
At 3/21/03 07:15 PM, MuscleHed wrote: Yeah, with out the MILLIONS of “unique” rebels like you who believe everything your load music tell your, where would we be?
The true 'unique rebels' are the ones that don't blindly believe ANYTHING. We don't accept statements without evidence, don't follow popular opinion blindly, and can see through propoganda. (if the popular opinion is what we agree with, we'll agree with it. Pop isn't bad because it's pop. It's usually just misinformed =P)
If everyone hunted for the truth like this, and everyone was able to formulate an opinion by themselves... then we'd end up with alot more truth in the world, and alot better choices being made ^_^.
The ability of free and intelligent thought is what makes unique rebels. If you can't think, you're just a mindless protester who protests without reason. Making you just as mindless as those who are blindly for war. ....There are always idiots on all sides...
At 3/21/03 12:17 AM, OlenWhitaker wrote: Canada may not have a numerically large military, but it is well equipped and trained, and if their performance in Afghanistan is any measure, they have the best snipers in the world. Your comment is exactly the type of ignorant, ethnocentric rambling that foments anti-Americanism.
Lol. The more I see you write, the more I appreciate your ability to think for yourself, it's a real gift to be able to think for yourself and not be controllled. =P
At 3/21/03 11:13 PM, allpro wrote: i think missinlinx is right i am a reporter
Ooooh, interview me sometime... but, if you don't know about the kinda posts I write, and stuff I believe, don't bother. Lol. I'll just wait till more people know me.
Or you can do some digging on me ;)... Me can be intersting. Promise. =P
Anyway, to talk a bit more generally, there's nothing wrong with interviews. It's an interesting addition to newgrounds.... Uhhh, no I am not sucking up...... ah forget it. *hides*
At 3/21/03 10:57 PM, Commander-K25 wrote: You may be watching too many cartoons. I doubt that they are part of some government propaganda program.
I doubt the writers are in on it, but the SOME group might be using censorship and filtering through only certain cartoons for a reason.
There's just so many pluses for a government ((and specifically a dictator)) if they filter things in the way they are that I have to be suspicious. Try to give a reason why this is not possible, but also remember that I have two points... mind-dulling, and possible manipulation.
Just incase you're wondering, yes I do believe that those New World Order theories have a CHANCE of coming true. And I am not against the war, despite the Bush example I used above. They are using propoganda and manipulation to steer the people towards an action they think is right. They don't trust the American people to make the right decision if it's against theirs. But they might be right. Saddam needs to be taken out of power and since the people can't do it, someone has to. ***I can make much more indepth statements but this is NOT a war topic.***
At 3/21/03 10:57 PM, Commander-K25 wrote: You may be watching too many cartoons. I doubt that they are part of some government propaganda program.
You're a smart guy, I am sure you could back that up with something right? I wanted to start a debate here. And hey, I did miss Bill Nye too ;(.
At 3/21/03 11:01 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: But really, I think Hentai should be classified seperately from Porn. It's hand drawings. No matter what the quality, or accuracy, they are only the same as doodles, or should be, in the eyes of the law.
Sorry if that's off topic, but I'm tired. I was up at 3 AM.
Hehe, yeah you are a bit tired ^_^... My point isn't that hentai should be classified as porn... it's that it shouldn't be flamed. It's just there because of cultural difference and should be more accepted.
One of the statements that you said was incorrect. Although I no longer watch the anime "DragonballZ", I knew that it was heavily censored. The comics, however, were not.
Most of the graphic novels, and comics/manga, are uncensored and translated very well.
^ True, it has been censored of much blood and things, but the concept remains the same. DBZ isn't too hot in my books though because the concept is a bit simplistic. Good or Evil, people mindlessly wanting to destroy the universe cuz they want to.... It needs some shades of grey. People working to achieve good through 'evil' methods.
At 3/21/03 10:06 PM, jimsween wrote: Damn... I wish my 100th post was as good as yours. Seriously that has to be one of the best put together posts I've ever seen. Your right about the other cultures thing but couldnt another factor be that you can get cartoons to do alot of things humans wouldn't? Or at least humans with any self esteem whatsoever...
Yeah, the freedom cartoons give in what you can do gives writers limitless bounds. It's what gives them incredible potential. That's a good point.
This is inspired from a comment Heinous Dude made on a post I made elsewhere.. The theme of this post is :
"Cartoons : Brainwashing Child-Programming.... or Protector of Innocence?"
I'll start us off with my opinion.
Personally I think it's brainwashing, mind-dulling, child-programming. We teach people to mindlessly obey the law, never ever resolve conflicts with violence, or sometimes always resolve conflicts with violence, and we teach concepts of good and evil, black and white. We also preach defense of the country, to constantly hold patriotism.
Lets look at these piece by piece.
Mindlessly obeying the law has obvious pluses for the gov't if the they retricts children shows from displaying a moral other than this... because then they can do whatever the hell they want.
Why shouldn't we obey the law without question? Well the LAW is a HUMAN CREATION, which means it has faults. Take a look at slavery in the US in the past, or Hitler's laws against the Jews. Obviously we should RATIONALLY think about the law in question before we obey it, then do what is JUST, not what is LAWFUL.
Violence and Conflict Resolution
Due to the black and white nature of cartoons, there are two ways cartoons are allowed to portray violence. Either in the superhero way of "Always resolve conflicts with violence", or the "Violence is always wrong" deal.
This latter leads to the creation of many people like the uninformed anti-war protestors (Not saying all are wrong, just many are uninformed). Sometimes violence is needed to defend yourself or your friends. The government has reason to promote this one so people do not cause riots to fight their laws.
As for "Violence is needed", I'll explain that along with patriotism, and black and white situations.
Patriotism and Violence
You've seen cartoons where big American flags fall out of the background as the good-guy makes his speech after bashing the "Bad Guy". This is an example of Patriotism used as a tool to brainwash, and black and white situations.
The government supports the use of superheros (especially ones like Captain America) because it sends a message that government is always right. And if there are only good and bad guys in the conflict (as cartoons always show), then whoever your government is against must be shady evil-doers.
If you disagree you are a terrorist, and unpatriotic abomination of your country, a bad guy. This has INCREDIBLY obvious pros for the government to potray, because yet again it gives them a massive base of uninformed and blind followers. Words leaders like Bush use such as "Axis of Evil" may set off some of the child-programming within us, and is an easy tool for them.
CONCLUSION
Maybe it's just a side-effect of parental censorship, or maybe it was a mix of that and the government seeing a way to make use of it. It's a hard thing to prove, but all these coincidences DO make me suspicious.
Overall though, there's one thing I know. These cartoons dull the minds of their viewers, and suck out free-will and free-thought, just like how censorship sucks out free-will and free-thought. People should be given more freedom in what kind of cartoons they can create.
Newgrounds is a PERFECT example of cartoon freedom. Only excessive and needless pornography is banned. I see this as an excellent example that needs to be followed throughout the world! =P
At 3/21/03 09:32 PM, HeinousDude wrote:
I would also like to take this moment to commend HeinousDude on being the first person to contribute with something intelligent! Hurrah! I love you!
At 3/21/03 10:18 PM, PyROmAnIAc30 wrote: have you ever read an american comic not meant for children? there are ALOT of them, and they are probably just as complicated as magna.
They're out there, but they are harder to find than in Japan =P
At 3/21/03 10:06 PM, jimsween wrote: Damn... I wish my 100th post was as good as yours. Seriously that has to be one of the best put together posts I've ever seen.
Lol, much thanks. And yeah. I forgot to celebrate. Yaaay 100th post! ^_^.
Note on the other guy's note on censorship though... Yeah they do censor, but the point is that they don't leave out entire concepts or ideas. If the hentai thing is any good beyond a porn tool, then it won't matter if it's censored. YES there actually IS some hentai that can make you think. It's just... very very rare.
"ALWAYS obey the law".
This is the reason SOOOO many STUPID beaurocrats exist. That brainwashing little saying. The LAW is a creation of human minds, therefore it has the ability to be wrong.
Just look at Hitler's laws against the Jews, America's slavery in the past... NEVER EVER EVER blindly follow the law. Understand the sides to the fight, and make a JUST decision, not a LAWFUL decision!!
At 3/21/03 09:32 PM, HeinousDude wrote: Well the fact that cartoon is limited here is because they want to protect the children's innocence.
If you say so. Although since the molding of a person's mind often lies in the early of years. If you can get people of younger age to understand complex morals, then you're helping to develop their intelligence.
Innocence is always just temporary. I would rather have a human with the ability be open-minded and a complex/intelligent thinker rather than just an idiot kid who believes naive and idiotic things like.
"Be Patriotic and Love your country no matter what", "Violence is ALWAYS wrong" and "ALWAYS obey the law".
Perhaps it's even the tool of the government to manipulate and control the minds of individuals. You can see some of these morals sticking with people. Just look at the uninformed Anti-War-Protesters (Not talking about ALL of them, just the uninformed ones, which may be the majority). That's just speculation though.
