190 Forum Posts by "NoNameProphet"
At 3/31/03 09:50 PM, Kazuo_Kiriyama wrote: We should give our military honor and acknowledgment and not let their lives be in vain. If you want to see true human shields, walk through Arlington Cemetery. There lie human shields, heroes, and the BRAVE Americans who didn't get on television and talk about being a human shield - they were human shields.
So you're only a real human shield if you keep it quiet and no one knows? Kinda defeats the purpose. In order to make a political statement like becoming a human shield you need the people you're trying to slow down/stop to know. They can be shield all they want.. those who believe in them can worship them... and the troops can mow them down as part of friendly fire... *shrug* Not like the outcome of this war on Iraq is going to change much.
Why did I comment only on that part? Well, that's all the speech really was. It was just an Anti-Human-Shield rant. "human shield moviestars are not with us, they're against us... they're terrorists!" <-- the gist of it. The rest was all just "yay god give us guidance", and "america is the greatest and stand up for your country". You know, BS. =D
I say they can throw away their lives all they want, with no reprimands from our government. They'll pay for it with their life because the soldiers shouldn't be forced to go out of their way to avoid shooting em'.
Just so you know... Word has it that Hitler's "suicide" was pretty fake. Hell, some news say they found his head. Lol.
http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/news/index.cfm?instanceid=57132
^ See that link.
Anyway, to state the obvious. Good persuader? Yes. Good person? No. The Versailles Treaty and the Allies do hold a lot of blame for WW2 as well. I mean, Germany did nothing more wrong than Britian or anyone else. Everyone was jsut building arms and then it blew up into a war. If anyone was "more wrong" it would probably be us to a small extent since we were indirectly allied to the side that assasinated the Ferdinard guy... the thing that sparked the war ;). Germans didn't deserve what they got and the Allies paid for what they did later. Too bad they had to learn the hard way, so many need to learn through trial and error. Bah.
At 4/1/03 11:02 PM, Ruination wrote: He has one point though, Hitler was indeed a genius, politically, that is.
This Donut guy though is a real Nazi enthusiast. His remarks are premise for banishment, in my opinion.
*shrug* He should be able to praise whatever guy he wants. Even those dubbed "incredibly fucking evil". As long as he has some logic to his statements he should be able to voice it. There's a difference between brainless hate-mongoring and having a formed opinion.
I try to champion free-speech of various kinds though.... Whether it's fighting off internet censorship, defending controversial opinions, or combatting government supression of opinons that differ its own ( look at China, their gov't doesn't really want to let you put down it's gov't... not even on the net. Damnit. If that doesn't slow down political and intellectual development I don't know what does ;) )
So uh, Anti-Semeticize away, not everyone has to read it. Just have reasons for it Mr. Person.
NOOO... I Horribly Missed the war by hours!!!!... Damnit... Oh well, try to grab me on AIM next time. You'll get a quicker response. I won't be always on but at least it'll leave SOMETHING on my screen. Check the profile for details on that.
At 4/2/03 12:06 AM, mysecondstar wrote: i'd like to see that happen. it is my own guilty pleasure to see US troops storm into Canada and give you all the heave ho because, in actuality, the US could beat the living shit out of Canada with no problem. but we won't. why? because
Uhm.. try not to pull irrelevant insults into topics. It tends to spark lots of useless posts like the handful after then =P. He never really mentioned Canada. Try to keep the insults on topic, I am sure you'll have way more than enough to talk about... heh...
Oh wait, you said forgive you for what you said.. lol. Okay. Forgiven!
At 4/2/03 09:27 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: WARNING WARNING WARNING
Among the missing in action-
Most pominent-
NEMESiZ
NoNameProphet
Judge_DREDD
House_Of_Leaves
Ahhh! Dude! Don't worry! I am back from my little hiatus. Work was getting heavy and topics were getting repetitive; I slipped away for a little while... but now I've phased back into existence. Yay. Party.
At 4/3/03 12:14 AM, Ruination wrote: it doesn't justify an all out war declared by a few member nations and not the whole.
The U.S. didn't seem to have enough evidence going into an all-out war yes. It was jsut suspicion. No one found a big fat nuke... but the world won't reem them that hard if they actually did find some heavy stuff, and not fabrications or god knows what.
Oh and those sanction that killed off millions of Iraqis and didn't impede Saddam at all (because he has outside sources and can hoard all he wants from his people).... that was pushed by US, not neccessarily the UN. And the "No-Fly-Zones" keeping those Kurds free was not agreed upon by the UN either. It was just imposed by Britian and the US acting alone again... they really enjoy doing that O.o...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/03/03/26_bad.html
^ Very interesting article. It's not really pro or anti war... I kinda had an opinion similar to it before I saw it. Yeah US put Saddam in but he's still a bad boy who needs to be removed, yet there's a lot of corrupt reasons beyond oil that US could play with while they're there... While I am not totally convinced to everything that this article says, it does strengthen my original thoughts further =P It's a scary thing to be true if it is.. heh...
Amd on a very loosely related note :
It's too bad that we don't just use fuel cells. Oil & Gas companies slowing those fuel cell dudes down... all that damn greedy capitalist money shit is destroying the planet, and ourselves along with it.
At 3/26/03 05:28 PM, Kazuo_Kiriyama wrote: No, I'm NOT going to just shut my hole. It's a pathetic excuse made by people who just can't face the facts. Why does it always feel like I'm slamming my fist against a brick wall when I'm talking to these dogmatic liberals? Everyone is telling you the truth and all you people do is put on the "hear no evil" face and yell "I'M NOT LISTENING TO YOU LIARS!!!"
Kazuo Kiriyama
Oh but it's obvious media puppetry would exist. Democracy works the way it does because the government does not trust the state to make proper decisions. It only makes sense that you'll tell lies to get people to believe you. Sometimes lies are useful, like many other things that people think are pure evil.
It's a mix of shows wanting ratings, and the stupid restrictions put on what we see and show because of what is "politically correct". It exists, whether you're going to believe it or not. Just look at the last Gulf War. 'Dead Babies' Satelites confirming images of huge iraqi armies, later confirmed on commericial satelites to be false... propaganda exists, and it has some goodness to it. Not saying I believe in it.
THE BIG QUESTION THAT ALL THIS IS ABOUT IS THIS THOUGH!
Should we leave Iraq to solve the problem on their own though? I'd say that it's the best case scenario if they did since the people could get their power back and do what they wanted, rather than have another country go in and have a permanent presence there; possibly setting it up with a leader who favors the US and cuts oil deals for them, or allows heavy military presence. BUT, since that obviously isn't happening... what choice do we have?
Pro-Attrition -> To me that's the favorable situation if it happens fast, but people hurt while we wait for that to happen people suffer
Pro-War -> The real problems will come some time AFTER the war... Problems between US and other countries will arise. North Korea, Russia, maybe China.
Anti-War -> War is a neccessity in change sometimes. Just look at some of the great examples given in other posts. Nazis, Soviet Union's bein' overthrown, slavery abolishment was fought for (Anti-Slavery defended during the civil war at least)... yadda-yadda! War can be justified. Don't be so closed-minded.
Overall though, there's no one word I can give to explain my position, it's just "Oh well, any choice we will suffer for, I'll accept what's being done." Armageddon will hit us eventually... free the world from our greedy corruption... Humanity has been a virus for the planet. Fortunately we will undo our own creation. I'll just have fun till' then. Spread my views.. *plays some Tool.. Aenema* Ahh...
I am going to comment on everything I can. There's a lot to say. One of those things is that yes, TheNark has been uneccesarily offensive, but don't bother to bring yourself down to that level and assrape him for technicalities. =P
-see my post about demonstrations and how the are irrelevant
NJ Deadzone
Protests and demonstrations are irrelevant? O.o
the US has never been fond of letting things play themselves out. I mean look at the stink you made about the womens sufferage movement and the emancipation proclamation, or blacks getting the vote. The kkk also liked to use violence to stop those who threatened the status quo.
TheNark
Protests have been damn useful there. I want to find that topic of NJ's now ;)
-We're not fighting to prevent invasion. We're fighting a government and its backward, one religion, one leader, one economy mentality, we're giving Iraq a quick lesson in Westernization
NJ Deadzone
And of course Westernization is just so great and we reserve the right to press it upon others... Western worlds have been the things that create the need for sweatshops, that take pay off countries to ship all their crops there and leave their own people starving, western worlds are the lands where greed has hardly any limits.
Err.. but... yeah, you're right. Saddam and his government need to be ousted because it's even worse. Heheh. The western system might be flawed but it works well enough for me, and I certainly won't be able to stop it. =P THEY will find me, and THEY will get me... *nervous glances*
-if you speak of NK, the US will use Iraq's deserts as a military base, since turkey didn't wanna share its military zones. Iraq will be used as the US's middle east post, for all future events occuring there, and in Asia
-and we're not the world's babysitter, get that straight!
NJDeadZone
So you're not the world's babysitter; yet you're still going to get involved in this? I see a little contradiction there. Maybe you'll defend saying that they pose a threat to US, but I say don't attack them until you've got some god damn proof.
The police were not the provokers, tear gas can be avoided by running away from it you dont have to attack the police officers
jimsween
Uh... Last time I checked, hurling canisters of gas at a mob threatens them in a way; thus provoking them.
TheEvilOne: This is to you. Scuds or no Scuds, they're not able to cause MASS destruction. Sure, they broke the rules. So did our President. He's waging war on a country for not complying with the UN. While at the same time not complying with the UN himself. That's a flawed argument. Besides...the stated goal isn't the weapons anymore. It's regime change. Which is illegal. A GOOD IDEA. But illegal.
House_of_Leaves
Perfect example. Yes, our President DOES have a bit of a contradiction there too!.. and yeah, they need a regime change, also not legal. Good input. Can't add much.
Again, i question where you get your information. Augusto Pinochet, Ede Amien (who is in exile in libya), and Milosevich, amongst others have done things to make saddam look like an amateur (not to mention Iraq is the most forward thinking arab state in the world) and incidentally, the turks, your glorious allies want to butcher the kurds as badly as the Iraqi's do. Read a book
TheNark
For what NJ accused as a young and unknowing 16-year-old... you certainly have a great amount of knowledge for your age in my eyes ^_^. There's a lot of evil elsewhere yes, but they just have more incentive to pick Iraq in particular in their eyes of course ^_~...
you are just too out of context. French had the politiques, and the enlightenment thinkers during that time. In Russia, intellengentsia played a substantial impact in their revolution. What's wrong with this picture in Iraq? Number one, they never evolved from the agricultural revolution. They're partying like it's 1599. Number two, as a result of number one there is no intellegent and aspiring middle class to create such a revolution. The Kurds would be successful if they weren't a bunch of warlords. You expect a nation that might as well be in africa to get to a level from french or russian revolution?
NJDeadZone
Good response. This is what I call a debate. Although a bit hostile. TheNark brought the hostility upon himself though...
if you can find any concrete evidence that Iraq and Bin Laden are at all connected, and I mean real evidence, not american paranoia, I will rescind my above statement
TheNark
connected in religion-> Game Over
NJDeadzone
You even state your comment was simply a technicality and it "wasn't a 'SOLID' reason." Don't bother with technicalities and simple law, what is more important is what's right and what you actually believe in =P.
:(not to mention Iraq is the most forward thinking arab state in the world)
TheNark
Your a moron...
JimSween
Uh, Thanks for your great intellectual input *rolls eyes*
And Canada has always been this Utopian country?
TheShrike
Did he say it ever WAS a Utopian country? We have almost just as many problems as you do ;)
jimsween: your a fucking retard 911 wasnt an invasion...
Mmmm such kind words..
And Kazuo, its vicious, not viscous, viscous is a word describing the thickness of a liquid, eg: Molasses sure is viscous
TheNark
Uneccesary comment. It's what he meant to say that matters. Don't ruin his kick ass joke!
And those are my two cents.
At 3/22/03 03:34 PM, EvilBread wrote:
the prices in oil actually dropped when the war had started, so we are really losing money instead of gaining oil money from this war.
Uh, maybe you just never got the chance to think about it but... if prices dropped that means the war is helping. When prices on imported goods go up, usually it means the supply is running low and it's harder to acquire the goods. The other possibility is that THAT product recently entered a state of monopoly. Only one source, and that source rose prices. Either the seller rose prices to make more money; or the provider from the country rose prices to make more money. Quickly wrote cuz I GTG!
At 3/22/03 03:28 PM, swayside wrote:At 3/22/03 02:51 PM, NoNameProphet wrote: I forgive you,who is "you"?
Conveniently, you. Just look at the topic above that one, I was talking about you. I thought it would be obvious, sorry. I am just reaaally rushe dfor time and don't remember to type everything I want to say.
I cannot give you a legal reason as to why they shouldn't search them basically.
At 3/22/03 03:26 PM, swayside wrote:
and you point is...
i'm sorry, but just because someone did something good while on drugs, doesn't mean drugs are good.
... Well, my post was partly as a joke you know. I never backed up any claim that goes against what you said because I just don't have anything to say, someone just might have enjoyed those quotes that's all. Lol.
At 3/22/03 12:32 PM, swayside wrote: i can't remmember the last time i was so angry. i was absolutely furious.
Heh. You need to care a bit less. There's a lot of people with uninformed opinions. A lot of people that you simply cannot inform. A lot of people that just don't, won't, and can't understand.
Ooops. Pardon typo/grammatical probs.. I just quickly pasted couple o' my fav quotes there. Lol.
At 3/22/03 02:31 PM, swayside wrote: if a music artist writes a song about about how much drugs he did over the weekend, should law enforcement be allowed to run a drug test on him?
i think so.
Uuhh, no they shouldn't because um........ AHHH! *goes into hiding*
SOME QUOTES
'i think drugs have done some goods things for us, i really do. if you dont believe go home and burn all your albums, cd's, records, tapes videos and burn em, because you know what, those artists who inhanced your lives, have been reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllll fucken high on drugs'
"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration; that we are all conscious of ourselves subjectively. Life is only a dream and we're just imaginations of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
At 3/22/03 02:47 PM, Ruination wrote:At 3/22/03 02:34 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: The Politics forum is not, and is not meant to be purely political. It is meant as a place of intelligent discussion. If we sometimes go off of even that a bit, we deserve some leeway because we've earned it.
We can, and do, discuss everything of interest, politics just happens to be a large part of it.
Wow, thanks for the bit of support there people..
Nicely put; the politics forum is the general gathering place for those users of NG who have an IQ higher than 100. Its a shame though that some amoung us would have its content reduced to the banter of faux intellectuals regarding regurgitated topics and views.
Yeah. Topics are getting regurgitated, but part of it is because history repeats itself. The other part is that life repeats itself. There are constantly new people being brought into the political fray, and they often come in with the same questions as those before; which often calls for old answers. And ancient knowledge likes to preserve itself. It enjoys its regurgitation =P
Know what? Reading all that over, I forgive you, I would get tired dealing with the same topics over and over -.- Your points started out strong but, I understand the degeneration now =P ... Nevermind then...
cumminism is never fair.At 1/6/03 08:14 PM, swayside wrote:At 1/6/03 03:37 PM, Slizor wrote:Swayside you are a true capitalist and there is nothing wrong with the beliefs of capitalism, as communism the roots of these two philosophy are just and fair.
__________________
There is only one more lifeform on earth thats lives in a similar manner, killing its host. You may of heard of it. Its called a virus.viruses aren't technically alive.
I think this quote has something to do with this discussion;
Look, your counter-remarks are often very undefended... "communism is never fair" You also ignore parts of the arguement you have no arguement for, at least congratulate him on a good point if it comes across...
And I grow tired of your petty remarks, trying to peg him on 'technicalities' like a virus isn't alive. Put yourself in your shoes, try to understand the concept, and respond to the meaning he tried to convey.
Maybe you don't defend so well because you're tired of repeating yourself though, I sure am, which is why this post stops here.
At 3/22/03 01:03 PM, swayside wrote: the topic "political and social reasons for hentai" and others like it(i'm sure most of you have seen some) are getting quite annoying. it's like people think anything is a political topic. by the same logic i could post, "the politics of walking funny" or, "social reasons for potato eyes". i hate these poeple. such topics should be locked
Pfft. Don't get so pissy over it. I already knew what you're saying, but sometimes I choose certain words for topics just to grab the attention of certain people. And if you actually read the post you'd understand that there is much speak of social/economic developments of US and Japan... but of course you prefer harsh judgement without giving something a proper look over. Assumptions have uses, but this isn't one of them.
At 3/22/03 01:18 PM, flamewolf wrote:They are mindless creations made to keep children entertained for hours on end so you don't have to listen to them.Simple,isn't it?
Is it really that hard to believe that this was only what we were told was the reason for that type of funnelling? Is it really 100% impossible that it could be brainwashing?
At 3/22/03 01:18 PM, flamewolf wrote: Heres a brief summary of cartoons.
They are mindless creations made to keep children entertained for hours on end so you don't have to listen to them.Simple,isn't it?
Children's cartoons yes; this is a common stigma attached to cartoons as a whole. It's why anime was filtered into the crap you see comming into the US. People think it's only for kids. But that's another topic.
Due to the fact that children don't really even understand what they are watching, as their minds are yet to develop enough to understand what they are seeing.Therefore all of the above is untrue.
ARRGHH... Apparently no one has heard of, or believes in subliminal messaging! They don't need to understand to be affected. It's just pre-proggraming that's set off by certain 'triggers'.
It HAS been proven though!! Just look at how big companies try to stick food ads into textbooks by paying off schools!! They know people aren't easily convinced by OBVIOUS simple and stupid ads.... but studies have shown it affects their tendencies anyway. THE VERY MEANING OF SUBLIMINAL MESSAGING. It doesn't make total sense, but it is there!
People who vote 0 on flash animations for no good reason at all. I say that if you don't like that kinda genre at all, you're too biased to vote on it =P. Perfect example was "0 - This has nothing to do with the movie, but you fat lipped n1ggas suck"... -.- ...
I don't need to mention pop-ups/unders since that's obvious, oops.. too late.
At 3/20/03 01:39 AM, Perseph0ne6 wrote: Everything you said
War IS a complicated matter you're right. For that reason, whenever someone asks me if I am pro-war or anti-war.. I can't really give a straight answer. Yes Saddam needs to be removed of his power, and yes it doesn't look like the Iraqis or anyone else will solve their problem anytime soon... but this war will have some serious cons for the US afterward, mostly in the realm of nation-relations (rhyme!). And depending on how deeply other countries are pissed off by the attack, and Russia n' other places are with the disruption of their oil deals; the worst may be yet to come. History is one big progressing storyline, so many events of the past are starting to add up to a climactic end.
At 3/22/03 09:23 AM, Ted_Easton wrote: *Dunks NoName into the pot of stew*
We're eating well tonight!
*blub* Prophet! Call me the prophet!.... *boils*
At 3/22/03 09:22 AM, Ted_Easton wrote: Thanks.
And is manga hentai or anime, usually, or is it varied?
It can be both.
Oh. Idiot. Shoulda just stuck in the text like this..
Monique: Yo. Why the long face, Seymour?
Seymour: I stockpiled on the weapons of DIVINE RETRIBUTION but then my enemy went into hiding.
Seymour: Now I'm just left with a MILITARY SURPLUS and the burden of JUSTIFYING its existence.
Monique: Don't look at me pal.
Seymour: Do you by any chance practise WITCH-CRAFT?
At 3/17/03 01:14 AM, PreacherJ wrote: Man, I hate these "Marijuana has caused 0 deaths" research projects. Doesn't anybody think that if somebody gets lung cancer from marijuana that marijuana would be blamed instead of "Big Meanie-Head Tobacco"? Doubtful, is it not? And what of people who smoke both regularly?
Not that I disagree with you but man... the more I look at your name, the more I am reminded of this guy.
(P.S. Sorry about the squash... needed to make it within the allowable size -.-)
