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At 9/23/08 07:54 PM, Elfer wrote: The situation is sub-optimal, but the alternative is to let them collapse, which would really fuck shit up because there's nobody to take the place of those financial institutions quickly enough to prevent vast economic troubs.

That would be destructive capitalism at work and hopefully, after the flames of collapse have past a better setup will emerge with minimal government influence in this.

Government intervention helped to make the problem, government intervention is now making the problem even bigger.

The free market dictates that these companies should collapse and that the fallout of this collapse should happen. Only then can the invisible hand work .

Question: Why does the Prime Minister even have this power.

I mean, beyond the overwhelming use of executive power that scares the crap out of me, how does he have the power to overturn a publically elected Parliment, and basically tell the people of Canada, to fuck themselves.

It just shouldn't work like that.

There's two views on this that I hold:

The Realist View:

These banks, threw thier own mismanagement, incompetance and bad luck, have wasted a lot of money and have put investment banking into a crisis. Due to the importance they put onto the Capital market and the effect they have, and the fact that the people that feel this effect also vote in the Politicians that enact the regulatioins and controls and who's politcal future rests on a contented people, have basically nationalized these industries.

The Idealist View:

This is capitalism at work, plain and simple. These firms, either through mismanagement, incompetence or market forces that didn't go as predicated, have felt the effect and should suffer for it just as any other member of our capitalist system does. With thier line of business there is a risk and the should feel the effects of it. Likewise the government should, as any every wise government should, should let the market take it's directions and let the invisble hand take it's course.

As we can all see, the realist view will win out.

At 9/22/08 06:29 PM, drDAK wrote: It A democratically-elected aristocratic republic is more accurate.

You could also throw the words Federalist and Constitutionalist in there as well.

On the question of authenticity:

All they got out of Abu Ghraib, were some badly shot polaroids by either individual soldiers or whoever was there. And after that mistake by the US military, the chances of a well organised and finely shot video tape interogation, which would have been shot by someone ordered to do so or something of that like, of escaping the militaries grasp and somehow ending up in media hands would be incredibly small.

Is it just me, or do teachers like to screw with you.

I missed one of the classes on Thursday for unrelated reasons. Knowing later that the class was were we were designated our workshop groups, I sent out an email to the teacher to find out what group I was in so that I could do my work and my fellow group members would be able to do thier work.

The class I missed was an 8:00 am on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I missed the Thursday one. I sent the email at about noon on that thursday, I just got a reply today(monday at 2:30), for the members of the workshop groups.

We were basically supposed to write critique letters of each group members essay. Since it's the day before when all of this is due, and the fact more then likely I'm not going to recieve credit for any of this (but my roomates will be fine, since I didn't do it, they don't have to do anything) and the fact that I just don't want to be a dick to my group mates for missing the class, I'm just not going to email them my essay for them to critique.

I see no reason to screw them over at the last minute, they'll be fine regardless as thier grade won't be hurt.

At 9/21/08 01:26 AM, Malachy wrote:

At 9/21/08 01:23 AM, BrianEtrius wrote: So, which do you think I should get?

I've always been partial to trench coats despite them making me look like the unibomber

Thats just creepy.

The frat party was just a byob, so I had to work for my fun

At 9/20/08 07:51 PM, SevenSeize wrote:

At 9/20/08 07:48 PM, SkunkyFluffy wrote:

I'm gonna have to wait til like Christmas to teach my kids about the leaves changing color.

lame.

WHERE ARE MY AUTUMN TREES??????

No, absolutely not.
I'm not going to have more tourists up here looking at the freaking leaves change.
The New Yorkers were bad enough, but no southerners.

Now, I'm going to get hammered for the third day in a row and I better expect the conversation to be on College Football when I get back, because it's 56 here right now and thats football weather.

Yeah, I'm going to hell.

I got a kid plastered last night, his first time.
Due to my suggestions, I got him to do tequila shots, Captain Morgan Tatto, and some Jim Bean

He was gone, helped him back into his room though.

But yes, school is fun and suprisingly easy.

English 101 is basically highschool all over agin.

At 9/18/08 06:31 PM, SevenSeize wrote:

At 9/18/08 06:11 PM, BrianEtrius wrote: <--------------------------Just got his braces off after 12 years. Now he just needs to wear a retainer.

Wow! why 12 years?

I wore mine 4 and that was enough for me.

One year and 7 months.

I need to start eating more. People keep talking about the freshman fifteen, but I keep losing wieght. Two more belt holes and I need a smaller belt.

At 9/18/08 12:03 AM, Proteas wrote:

So what did you wind up reading?

Reading?

At 9/17/08 06:15 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 9/17/08 05:06 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

If I wasn't so sure you were being facetious, I'd be pissed in light of the fact that I'm fairly worried about how people seem to bothered by my mental well being these days and how your really not helping the situation any.

My apologies good sir, It was intended to be a joke.
Because Moonlight Sonata + Romance+ Hentai= error.

Most people tend to gravitate towards the pornography they first ran across in their teens, in my case it's hentai. I look at live action porno as well, I'm just always going to be partial to hentai.

Bad internet connection as a kid.

At 9/17/08 06:15 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 9/17/08 05:06 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

If I wasn't so sure you were being facetious, I'd be pissed in light of the fact that I'm fairly worried about how people seem to bothered by my mental well being these days and how your really not helping the situation any.

My apalogies then I was simply being funny in an assholeish way.
Because, I mean come on: Beethoven + Romance=error.

Most people tend to gravitate towards the pornography they first ran across in their teens, in my case it's hentai. I look at live action porno as well, I'm just always going to be partial to hentai.

Sounds like a story?

At 9/17/08 02:11 PM, Proteas wrote: I'm watching a yuri movie, and I kid you not, they are playing Beethoven's "Moonlight Sonata" in during a scene where the main character professes her love for the other and they then proceed to kiss and then.. it's playing while they.... yeah...

Have you ever though of, you know, looking up some nice Doctors to talk to.

This is way to romantic for being a damn porno.

In a very sick disturbing way with animated toons, yes.

If they don't like the law, don't be a cop.

Otherwise, your job is to enforce the letter of the law.

At 9/15/08 05:21 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

At 9/15/08 04:56 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

But what if successfully getting away with it is gauranteed? What if you actually had a HISTORY of getting away with this same thing, like driving drunk or carrying drugs? If you don't get caught, there's no conflict of interest.

There morality would still be infringed on, just without thier knowledge. Thier morality would still dictate that they enforce what they believe, so that would be a certainty. But if you could forever guaranteed from avoiding this enforcement, then yes there would be no clash of interest.

Unfortunately though, realisticly the chances of that are slim.

ONLY IF I GOT CAUGHT!! And the beauty of this argument is that when the cops come for me I can just fight back, because they're morally wrong for trying to stop me.

In your perspective they are, but in there perscpective they aren't, thus a standstill of interests and ideas. And the fact that they would fuck you over.

Isn't the individual the one who empowers the government's morality, not the other way around?

That would depend on each respective governments social contract with it's people, and ours is that the people empower thier government and representitives on elections.

Thats why were a Representive Democracy.

The bricks theory cuts out that middleman and stops people from falling through the cracks of injustice by giving them a way of taking matters into their own hands.

Which is also known as vigilantism, which is illegal and under our adopted theory of legal and constitutional rights, immoral.

At 9/15/08 12:49 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

At 9/14/08 12:17 AM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

If you have no responsibility to obey the common morality, why not do whatever benefits yourself based soles on ability and not morality?

Well, rationally because it would lead to a conflict with your self interest and those that uphold law and order. And usually law and order overcome the individual. This isn't Nietzche's Ubermensch coming into play here, it's an individual that will just fail.

So you're saying morality isn't logical? Because if you are, we're getting into "Might makes right" territory super fast.

In essence, yes. For example, my morality comes from the belief of a diety that had incarnated himself into a Christ. Nietzche or Shaws belief in morality came from the strength of the individual over either corrupt laws or useless laws. Logically, which one is more correct then the other?

You either embrace the standard moral law in my argument, OR, you live outside that law, are neither constrained nor protected by it.

The problem , that is, is that everybody is a Them as everybody morality or perception of morality is different then any other. There is a secular law, that is influenced by a common morality of a group of people in specific areas, that does not address certain aspects of society because law has no effect there, thats where individual morality comes into play and the perception of others may lead into conflict.

Price gouging for example. You see the gas companies price gouging as amoral, but I see it as a moral and practical thing to do (my inherent belief in the powers of Capitalism and the ability of the private company to set whatever price they deem fit). Niether of our moralities are any more right then the other, yet under your "brick" theory this difference would lead to conflict and this conflict would end with me with a brick to the head and you in a containment cell.

This is why the theory is flawed, your arguing on a standard view of morality that isn't subjective to the individual, when the individual creates thier morality.

Funk, maybe you guys could just take fucking Acid or valium and be happy or calm or not fucking crazy.

And for your bassist, just replace him. He's a bassist, there always replaceable, nobody ever remembers who the bassists of bands are.

Who wants to be the first one to open the betting pot on: Who were never going to see again after this weekend in California?

You can get more details if you want, will Fli become Buffalo Bill, will Brian E become a lamp. Who knows.

Since Obama deems it grand enough to compare himself with Lincoln all the time, I think I can make this connection.

Guess what college Lincoln went to?

None. Know why, real intelligence and leadership isn't taught at College. From my expierence here, it's little more then a daycare for near adults.

You can't teach someone something that comes naturally, Charisma and the ability to lead transcends what one can gleam from a book or hear from a professor.

Wait, let me get this straight.

Your preaching about the apathy of Americans, on a website that helps promote these videos and wastes of time, to people that spend thier time voicing thier opinions online instead of someplace where they actually matter and trying to tell them that there very nature of being here and not doing something is what is bad for this country.

And then expect them to do something.

Is that correct?

At 9/14/08 12:47 AM, Twerpo wrote:

At 9/14/08 12:21 AM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

Semantics seem to be the only thing that matters in american politics. And besides, once we start calling it an occupation the Republicans can no longer bitch about us losing the war if we pull out.

They could simply change it to us losing the mission in Iraq, or simply change it to whatever definition that they deem appropriate.

Really, it's not like I don't care but it's semantics. All your doing is just putting one similar noun in the place of another noun but leaving the rest of the sentence the same.

So, in reality your just bitching because people aren't using the correct definations, even though the same results are being achieved of both.

Loss of life is registered with each word you use, and the status of government is likewise.

All your doing is arguing semantics.

The problem is, that there is no detailed defination or requirement for any form of morality, or even not being tied down to morality a la amoral creatures.

When something as fluid as morality or the rejection comes into play, logic fails to account for the reactions. Logic is based upon expierence and empiricism, all of which logic can't account for in any form of detached or attached morality.

So in essence, what you may percieve as amorality (as you see price gouging) someone else (such as I) would see it as a very polarized moral choice and thus breaking your case for anarchy.

Your account of amorality is combated with institutionalized laws which try to avoid the question of morality.

At 9/13/08 09:39 PM, fli wrote:

At 9/13/08 09:16 PM, BrianEtrius wrote:

I'm going to see that on my birthday... I found meet someone on-line and we're going to have a nice platonic date, first some sushi and then some other dumb little thing like visiting a book store, and then the movies for "Burn After Reading."

You just filled out like three rules for what white people like.

At 9/12/08 12:55 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: I think I know why everyone from Louisianna is crazy.

THEY HAVE TO BE.

It's insanely hot in the summer, ALL SUMMER, and then after that, the whole place floods to shit at the beginning of the fall. WTF are you guys thinking? I mean, crawfish and Zydeco are cool, but not THAT goddamn cool.

I would say the same thing to people that live in Hurricane Alley or within five miles of the Mississippi.

In New England, we don't get shit. We get blizzards every so often, and maybe every fifty years or so and Category 1 Hurricane.

How am I still alive right now?

I got schooled on Dodgeball, those kids were freaking pro's.

Now, I'm going out to drink my body mass in beer,

At 9/11/08 08:48 PM, Malachy wrote:

At 9/11/08 07:41 PM, SevenSeize wrote: I want some peanut butter. And some pizza.
Though not neccessarily together.

Though that may be a good idea.

I had bagel bites and those fudge cookies from keebler. for dinner

I had Keystone Light and Dodgeball for dinner.

You rushing for any Frats?

At 9/11/08 12:50 PM, fli wrote:

At 9/11/08 12:24 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

Make me mod... NOW.

Please, after making that analogy in the collider thing, you'll be dam happy if we talk to you.

Honestly, a new coat of truth?

At 9/11/08 04:38 AM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote:

At 9/11/08 04:35 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: Um, since when have you been a mod.
srsly.

Since last night.

I'm suprised.

There hasn't been an iron fisted crack down yet.