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Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted October 20th, 2008 in Politics

Futurama was good in fact.

So Good, that it stopped me from crying last night

Response to: Independent parties debating? Posted October 16th, 2008 in Politics

See, it's not really bias when no one really cares about the third parties.

Hell, the news media does enough to make it look like they care about some of the people running for the Party primaries, but third parties.

Your joking.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted October 16th, 2008 in Politics

At 10/16/08 01:08 AM, Ravariel wrote: True Blood is the best show on TV right now.

Seriously... you should all watch it.

Wow.

It's Goth porn...
with vampires

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted October 15th, 2008 in Politics

At 10/15/08 06:41 PM, SevenSeize wrote: This is the hottest page of the lounge EVAR.

SOMEONE PULL MY HAIR AND CALL ME FILTHY.

Your Filthy, like the residents of New Orleans.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted October 15th, 2008 in Politics

At 10/15/08 10:36 AM, FUNKbrs wrote: This is gayer than two cross dressing leprechauns taking turns shitting tropical rainbow skittles and eating it 2 girls 1 cup style.

That joke was worse then Sean Penn trying to play Harvey Milk.

Response to: Kenny vs Spenny - Season 5 Posted October 7th, 2008 in General

Ther still making that show, shit I thought they cancelled it years ago.

Response to: Which candidate supports genocide? Posted October 7th, 2008 in Politics

At 10/7/08 06:19 PM, GangWarlord wrote:
At 10/7/08 06:15 PM, animehater wrote: Depends on the situation.
Well, if you're really in a corner and stuff, then fighting back in self-defense is okay. But generally wars just suck ass.

Thank You for that enlightening observation.

Now Funk, have you decided to try calling these candidates, maybe get a real feel for what they stand for. I think the real problem is that your undecided and what you need is a debate to help set you straight. I say we set something up in Auschwitz sometime soon and ask them directly.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted October 6th, 2008 in Politics

At 10/6/08 10:06 PM, SolInvictus wrote: my day was great because i skipped ethnic relations. i'm stuck doing a statistics assignment but it still beats having to go to that class.

I have to do an English Paper and study for an Economics test while watching a Red Sox playoff game and resisting the urge of a bottle of everclear.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted October 3rd, 2008 in Politics

At 10/3/08 08:24 AM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote:
At 10/3/08 07:39 AM, SevenSeize wrote:
At 10/3/08 06:40 AM, ThePretenders wrote:
Forgive what exactly? I seem to have forgotten.

Forgotten what?
Forgiving.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted October 2nd, 2008 in Politics

At 10/2/08 06:27 PM, Elfer wrote: Man, I'm taking a biochemical engineering class, and BOY OH BOY, you do NOT want to be a strict vegan if you need medicine.

Seriously, you've got no idea how often we use dead cow fetus juice to grow bacteria.

Well, dead cow fetus juice is quite delicous, I usually have it for breakfast.

But beyond that point, is it just me or is every horror movie thats coming out now have to do the Blair Witch Project style filming, you know with the shaky camera and not really knowing whats going on.

Because another crappy horror movie is doing that aka(Quarentine).

Response to: Bailout or Belly-up? Posted October 1st, 2008 in Politics

At 10/1/08 07:42 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:
At 9/27/08 11:38 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:
At 9/27/08 02:26 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:
At 9/27/08 11:42 AM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:
Yes, but in two times out of dozens; in times previous to the Fed bank crisis were systemic, leading to a sharp expansions and contractions of the money supply, which affected the real economy, and created exponentially wider business cycles. This is the flaw of Capitalism that institutions like the Fed helped to solve.

Capitalism's flaws are what make it what it is.
Yes I know the business cycle can be a bitch and (unfortunatelly I hate saying this) but I'm not completely against the Fed. I like the idea of a centralized, as was in the first and secon Bank of the United States. I even like the idea of the FDIC. I just don't like the idea of artificially controlling the interest rate.

Greenspan screwed things up once during his whole term, give him a break.

I give him credit where credit is due. If he wants to talk about the wonders of free markets and the strenths of unregulated capitalism, then he shouldn't force the interest rate down to help keep up a housing boom that ran past it's natural course.

I mean, if a boom continues (as we saw) and people begin to build around it(as we saw), when the time comes for it to crash, it will be even more painfull.

New England (my local region) went through this before in the Savings and Loan crisis of the late 80's and it took to the late 90's for the region and the housing market to really recover. From what I'm seeing now, and with the sharp drop in housing rates around both Massachusetts and New England as a whole, it will be some time before they come back to stabilization.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted October 1st, 2008 in Politics

At 10/1/08 07:22 AM, Der-Lowe wrote:
Plain Economics, or a branch of it, ie Micro, Macro, Mathemathical economics, econometrics, etc.

It's a plain economics class aka Economics 101: Intro to Economic issues.

But the test is on a general overview on some subjects in Microeconomics (Elasticity, Supply and Demand, PPF etc), and I like Macroeconomics a lot more then Microeconomics.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted September 30th, 2008 in Politics

At 9/30/08 07:27 PM, SevenSeize wrote:
At 9/30/08 07:10 PM, Malachy wrote:
I live like 4 hours away from there though, and that makes me a sad panda. :-(

Sexual Harrasment Panda.

But yes, New Orleans, beyond the flooding, crime and being the worst place imaginable on Earth that has every human sin and debauchery possible, is quite nice.

And now, I have to study for an Economics Test and not being able to sleep tonight.

Response to: Barney Frank Posted September 30th, 2008 in Politics

See the thing your forget about Massachusetts politics, is that we don't actually elect these people.

If your name is Kenneddy, or if your were in your positions for more then two terms, you never have to run for relection because you automatically win.

So we just keep this guy on, with no regards to his constituents.

Response to: Black Monday Posted September 30th, 2008 in Politics

At 9/29/08 07:32 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:
At 9/29/08 05:36 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:
That was after the markets collapse. The Great Depression was caused due to a collapse of the Banking crisis, because the monetary and regulatory policies of the Fed failed. The crisis has just started, and so far, it's IDENTICAL to the Great Depression. That's why Bernanke urged the Congress not to screw things up and pass the plan, because he knows what the US economy is facing.

While not being one to point out the failures of Federal Agencies in economics (what I can't even get a laugh anymore), I can see the writing on the wall. Yes, the slowdown of the movement of capital and the Stock Markets drop are all earliely similar, many of the situations that helped to push the Great Depression into an even worse situation (I'm not going to go into all of the war debt circle that was established with Germany, France/UK, and the US after WW1), the increased rise of protective tarriff's by both the US and Europe and Europe's overwhelming view to hold onto a balanced budget during this crisis, were a one time event that shouldn't have any impact on todays world and market.

Most world economies seem to enjoy one sided Keynsian economics as well as a more globalized, free trade. Along with this comes the economic strength and increasingly prominent EU and all of it's power and (if anyone forgets the true reason for the US actually getting out of the Depression) we have to massive military operations that will supply the much needed capital that is needed.

If worse comes to worse, this might be an excellent time for us to do some much needed internal improvements a la FDR CCC. We could always use new parks, repaired bridges and roads etc etc.

Response to: Revival of Freemarket liberalism? Posted September 29th, 2008 in Politics

To be fair though, Bush has probally done more to fuck over our idea of free market capitalism and economic conservatism more then any other person.

I mean, we went to "Free Markets can cure the common cold to " ..."The market can't take care of itself anymore".

God, what I would kill for to have Ron Paul up for nomination.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted September 29th, 2008 in Politics

At 9/29/08 04:53 PM, stafffighter wrote:
At 9/29/08 02:46 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:
You're really, really wrong. I've both worked and shopped at grocery stores in Massachusetts that sold all kinds of alcohal. I just got a variety pack of sam addams at Hannaford.

And I worked in one that couldn't legally sell alcohol of any kind, as most massachusetts law dictates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_law s_of_the_United_States_by_state

Look at the Mass one, most supermarket chains or non licensed stores can't sell it.

http://www.sec.state.ma.us/Ele/elepip/pi pidx.htm
Likewise, they tried passing a ballot change for it a couple of years ago.

Response to: Black Monday Posted September 29th, 2008 in Politics

People, this is nowhere close to the Great Depression. People seem to forget that during the Great Depression we had a unemployment rate of 33%, as in 1 out of every 3 people was out of a job. As in there was soup lines out on the streets, as in the Grapes of Wrath was happening on the streets.

This is a financial crisis, a Banking and Loans crisis of the 00's. As in yes, this will be a recession like Stagflation of the 70's or inflation of the 80's as in we will have some lean times coming up.

But please, stop comparing this to the depression. Honestly, when we have people living in Hoovervilles, hoping trains to get to work and migrating along Route 65 to California in old jalopy's then we can say it's as bad as the depression.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted September 29th, 2008 in Politics

At 9/29/08 11:18 AM, Proteas wrote:
At 9/29/08 11:10 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: You can get alcohol in the grocery store for a bargain usually.
If you are referring to liquor, not in my town. All I can get is beer, I have to drive 25 to 35 miles in any direction before I can find a liquor store.

In Massachusetts, Grocery stores can't sell any alchoholic beverages what so ever.

So usually that means I have to pull a hey mister in front of a Packy store.

Response to: Bailout or Belly-up? Posted September 27th, 2008 in Politics

At 9/27/08 02:26 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:
At 9/27/08 11:42 AM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:
But the "invisible hand" does not work in the financial system, ergo, the Fed.

And didn't the fed screw up in now and in past history.

I like the idea of the FDIC, it's a good way to keep the money supply appear stable and it's especially good for inspiring confidence in the people.

But the interest rate is something that should float naturally, and as we have seen in this occasion and in past occasions can be kept unaturally deflated.

Response to: Bailout or Belly-up? Posted September 27th, 2008 in Politics

At 9/27/08 09:28 AM, Der-Lowe wrote:
At 9/26/08 11:06 AM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:
But aren't you saying that it was lackluster govt regulation that brought the crisis, then shouldn't it have been more strict, ie, "more regulation"?

I didn't say lackluster, I mearly said regulation as a whole. Increased regulation would have only exasperated the situation more so then the regulations that were in place.

As we can see now, from past history, and from the current nationalization of our investment banks; the government has absolutely no place in regulating the market. Beyond protecting the few rights of workers that they have actually done correctly in past history, the government has doesn't have the competence or the know how to predict in which way the market takes it's course or how the invisible hand will work.

Der Lowe, you know I'm never going to actually say that increased government regulation will help the situation. Come on you know me better.

Response to: Islamic clerics daughter a stripper Posted September 26th, 2008 in Politics

At 9/26/08 06:30 PM, AapoJoki wrote:
At 9/26/08 02:36 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: Why, because you just like to piss over other people's faith and thier misfortunes.
I don't see any misfortune or desperation here. She's an independent girl, working in an honest occupation. There is nothing negative about her straying as far away from Muslim values as possible. In fact, I hope she has the wisdom and courage to commit apostasy as soon as possible. Her father is being intolerant enough just by saying that there is something God needs to "forgive" her.

An honest occupation, right.
Regardless, the fact that you seem to think that the father is intolerant because he thinks that God needs to forgive her for being a stripper is idiocy. Any father, any religous person, would agree with this idea. The same idea coming from this man would be the same one coming from a Catholic, a Protestant a Jew and any other religous group.

A parent will love thier child, the parent doesn't need to like what they do. A parent can let thier child live thier lives, not like what they do.

If you call that intolerance me friend, then I question your definitions. The father doesn't like what she does, most wouldn't. The father says that it's the daughters choice, her own life. Most would. Now he's intolerant.

If thats intolerant my friend, then I am as well and I hope to god that most people are.

Response to: Islamic clerics daughter a stripper Posted September 26th, 2008 in Politics

At 9/26/08 10:16 AM, AapoJoki wrote:
At 9/26/08 09:55 AM, LordJaric wrote:
As soon as this cleric comes out and says, "I'm very proud of my daughter and I love her no matter what she does for living", I'll stop caring about it. But while he's still a bigoted, narrow-minded, ultra-conservative Muslim fundamentalist, this is all just too much fun.

Why, because you just like to piss over other people's faith and thier misfortunes. I think it took enough respect and love to say that his daughter is to make her own choices in life, just like everyone else.

If you took anyonebody else and put them into the same position, they would probally say the same thing. I know, that if this was my daughter, I would, just as that man, be shocked of what she said.

Yes, the man is a dick for preaching genocide with some sort of religous backround to it. I'm going to agree with you on that. But you people, in your extreme dislike of the person, are basically building up a desperate girls actions of personal survival (which probally had almost nothing to do with her father) into some sort of honorable crusade.

Response to: Bailout or Belly-up? Posted September 26th, 2008 in Politics

At 9/25/08 11:27 PM, VigilanteNighthawk wrote:
At 9/25/08 09:08 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:
At 9/25/08 08:24 PM, poxpower wrote:
Go back and read my response to your first post. Fannie and Freddie were certainly lynchpins, but they are not the whole story. There were various actions that could have prevented this all around, including better regulation of the subprime mortgages themselve. The problem is more complex than this. The Democrats certainly have their share of the blame, but there is a lot more going on than you either realize or care to admit to.

Government regulation is what got us into this mess into the first place, any more of it would not have done any better. As cellar has stated earlier Fannie and Freddie were instrumental in it, as well as that nice little Community Reinvestment Act that went though Congress.
I also disliked the unnaturally low interest rate that the Fed was keeping to help continue to fuel the housing boom, but that is very much debatable.

I just happen to keep my dislike for this mess on the Federal Government as a whole, not just the democrats, though they did help.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted September 25th, 2008 in Politics

At 9/25/08 11:29 AM, Proteas wrote:
At 9/25/08 12:35 AM, BrianEtrius wrote: How about Saw 5?
There's a Saw 5 coming out?

*googles*

Dammit, why am I always last to hear about this kind of stuff? I just watched Saw 4 last week!

I want to see The Road with Viggo Mortensen
Because there shitty movies that no body with a soul should see.

Response to: Are you going to stop the bail-out? Posted September 25th, 2008 in Politics

The Federal Reserve was created after the crisis of 1907, not during the Great Depression.

There's a variety of reasons to say no to the bailout, Democracy isn't one of them.

Response to: Hate both candidates? Posted September 23rd, 2008 in Politics

Or you could just right in what candidate you want to, since it won't even matter either way.

For example, I'm a Republican. I'm not a huge supporter of McCain. I live in Massachusetts, my vote doesn't really matter.
Add in to the fact that I like Romney more, well I'm just going to write his name in.

Response to: Liberalism Posted September 23rd, 2008 in Politics

Because for most of history, liberalism was something that I would have supported. A republican or non centralized government, rights of man, free market.

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted September 23rd, 2008 in Politics

At 9/23/08 10:15 PM, Malachy wrote:
At 9/23/08 09:03 PM, RydiaLockheart wrote: Were you aware there is such a thing as NASCAR romance novels?

http://www.eharlequin.com/store.html?cid =600

I ILL'ed "Tailspin" to someone today.
you must tell me, is there gay NASCAR romance novels?

I mean...erm...

how bout them yankees?

You mean them not making the Playoffs because the Red Sox clinched the Wildcard

Response to: Bailout or Belly-up? Posted September 23rd, 2008 in Politics

At 9/23/08 09:42 PM, Elfer wrote:
At 9/23/08 09:13 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:
Yes. This has happened before. It was called the Great Depression.

It wouldn't be that bad again. Yes it would be bad of course, but the Great Depression developed through a strange combination of events progressing from WW1 and Germany's reconstruction to postwar politics of Europe and American margin purhasing.

It's going to bad regardless, it's going to be horrific maybe even a systemic shock but it won't reach the levels of the Depression.

Of course a collapse will make the progression faster, but there's a huge price to pay for it. Most people don't want to waste ten years of their life suffering in the name of economic idealism.

And simply changing the paint on the car won't fix the engine. I have supported open market Capitalism for most of my logical life, I would be a hypocrite to go against it now, just because my hand turned up empty.

This is what Capitalism is, a market with different fluctuations, great ones and horrible ones. For the system to work correctly, there has to be the negatives, the crashes and the rises. The market can't just be up and up, there's the downs.

Of course, none of this is going to matter in politics. Since this problem was brough on by the Federal Government and thier interference into the Market, they'll only be to happy to intefere again.